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> <channel><title>Comments on: Migrant Worker Cannot Pay Hospital, Doctor Suffers</title> <atom:link href="http://www.chinasmack.com/stories/migrant-worker-cannot-pay-hospital-doctor-suffers/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.chinasmack.com/stories/migrant-worker-cannot-pay-hospital-doctor-suffers/</link> <description>Hot internet stories, pictures, &#38; videos in China. What’s popular, scandalous, or shocking that have the Chinese talking.</description> <lastBuildDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:13:53 -0800</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: JGB</title><link>http://www.chinasmack.com/stories/migrant-worker-cannot-pay-hospital-doctor-suffers/#comment-24341</link> <dc:creator>JGB</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 02:19:57 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.chinasmack.com/?p=3959#comment-24341</guid> <description>Chinese Hospitals = Business factory &quot;health&quot;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chinese Hospitals = Business factory &#8220;health&#8221;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: KTR</title><link>http://www.chinasmack.com/stories/migrant-worker-cannot-pay-hospital-doctor-suffers/#comment-15984</link> <dc:creator>KTR</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 06:17:52 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.chinasmack.com/?p=3959#comment-15984</guid> <description>was his ID card also fake? Can&#039;t he be traced with that?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>was his ID card also fake? Can&#8217;t he be traced with that?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: GuoBao</title><link>http://www.chinasmack.com/stories/migrant-worker-cannot-pay-hospital-doctor-suffers/#comment-10588</link> <dc:creator>GuoBao</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 06:09:36 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.chinasmack.com/?p=3959#comment-10588</guid> <description>The healthcare system in China is a complete and utter joke. Look for one single zhong guo ren who will say its great and you will have to look for years. Imagine you are a migrant worker doing hard shitty work for 10 hours a day 7 days a week for 800 kuai,, how would you feel about being in an accident and having to pay several thousand yuan (which you obviously haven&#039;t got) in medical bills?! The healthcare system in China is more capitalistic and demeaning than that of the USA.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The healthcare system in China is a complete and utter joke. Look for one single zhong guo ren who will say its great and you will have to look for years. Imagine you are a migrant worker doing hard shitty work for 10 hours a day 7 days a week for 800 kuai,, how would you feel about being in an accident and having to pay several thousand yuan (which you obviously haven&#8217;t got) in medical bills?! The healthcare system in China is more capitalistic and demeaning than that of the USA.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Samael</title><link>http://www.chinasmack.com/stories/migrant-worker-cannot-pay-hospital-doctor-suffers/#comment-10250</link> <dc:creator>Samael</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 07:08:38 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.chinasmack.com/?p=3959#comment-10250</guid> <description>@bossmanuniversal health care ain&#039;t free. You pay for it through taxes so you really aren&#039;t taking advantage of anything. you Chinese can line up in hospitals all day, but is it really worth the lost wages u incurred during these &#039;advantageous&#039; sick leaves? besides, its not like China did not have a health care scheme, back when it was still communist. many older generations now, i believe, regard the current system as a step backwards from the communist era.on the other hand, your proposition of a worker compo scheme can actually be exploited easily by dodgy workers and requires large amount of workplace reform and government supervision. its a good idea, considering the terrible Chinese work safety records, but its not &#039;very simple&#039;.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@bossman</p><p>universal health care ain&#8217;t free. You pay for it through taxes so you really aren&#8217;t taking advantage of anything. you Chinese can line up in hospitals all day, but is it really worth the lost wages u incurred during these &#8216;advantageous&#8217; sick leaves? besides, its not like China did not have a health care scheme, back when it was still communist. many older generations now, i believe, regard the current system as a step backwards from the communist era.</p><p>on the other hand, your proposition of a worker compo scheme can actually be exploited easily by dodgy workers and requires large amount of workplace reform and government supervision. its a good idea, considering the terrible Chinese work safety records, but its not &#8216;very simple&#8217;.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: bossman</title><link>http://www.chinasmack.com/stories/migrant-worker-cannot-pay-hospital-doctor-suffers/#comment-10237</link> <dc:creator>bossman</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 04:58:36 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.chinasmack.com/?p=3959#comment-10237</guid> <description>Everyone Chinese knows the Chinese people would just take advantage of universal health so make it only for accidnets. If we had free hospitals we would have everyone linign up all the time for anything. Chinese are scared of sick!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone Chinese knows the Chinese people would just take advantage of universal health so make it only for accidnets. If we had free hospitals we would have everyone linign up all the time for anything. Chinese are scared of sick!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: bossman</title><link>http://www.chinasmack.com/stories/migrant-worker-cannot-pay-hospital-doctor-suffers/#comment-10236</link> <dc:creator>bossman</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 04:55:47 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.chinasmack.com/?p=3959#comment-10236</guid> <description>no need for universal medicare, just how about system where these bosses of the workers must pay the workers injuries, this would make safety much more important at work andmany people will be saved. VEry simple, just like companies cannot fire so easy the workers now, just make the boss responisbile.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no need for universal medicare, just how about system where these bosses of the workers must pay the workers injuries, this would make safety much more important at work andmany people will be saved. VEry simple, just like companies cannot fire so easy the workers now, just make the boss responisbile.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: fireworks</title><link>http://www.chinasmack.com/stories/migrant-worker-cannot-pay-hospital-doctor-suffers/#comment-9857</link> <dc:creator>fireworks</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 06:20:04 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.chinasmack.com/?p=3959#comment-9857</guid> <description>@Rick in ChinaI was doing some reading from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_health_care#Europe and also http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1447686.Universal healthcare in China is realistically going to be a long way off. I was trying to say many countries in the world aspire world class health care similar to that of Europe. Now, although it is expensive from the point of view of levying taxes are high, people in those countries generally make use of it and are grateful.Now some conservatives which they are many perceived this as a &#039;socialist system&#039; and its not the government&#039;s burden to provide that sort of service and should leave it in private hands. Now that can be debatable... depending on which side of the Atlantic you are from. Some people believe its the government duty to look after the people. Others think its their personal responsibility to look after themselves and have choice.In the other extreme end, you have the US which does not have universal health care but have a strong private health care system. It sometimes work for minor health issues, sometimes it doesn&#039;t work out good for the patients because patients are left high and dry with gap expenses which the health funds don&#039;t cover.Back to your question about China&#039;s health system. China has a range of options to see what kind of health care system it wants in place and the cost. Having a universal health system will be take decades. But to have something in place that can get the process going, maybe help kickstart the private health industry so that people who work or who can afford, pay private health insurance.This will relief pressure from the public hospitals and public purse strings.Just my 2 cents worth.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Rick in China</p><p>I was doing some reading from <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_health_care#Europe" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_health_care#Europe</a> and also <a
href="http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1447686" rel="nofollow">http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1447686</a>.</p><p>Universal healthcare in China is realistically going to be a long way off. I was trying to say many countries in the world aspire world class health care similar to that of Europe. Now, although it is expensive from the point of view of levying taxes are high, people in those countries generally make use of it and are grateful.</p><p>Now some conservatives which they are many perceived this as a &#8217;socialist system&#8217; and its not the government&#8217;s burden to provide that sort of service and should leave it in private hands. Now that can be debatable&#8230; depending on which side of the Atlantic you are from. Some people believe its the government duty to look after the people. Others think its their personal responsibility to look after themselves and have choice.</p><p>In the other extreme end, you have the US which does not have universal health care but have a strong private health care system. It sometimes work for minor health issues, sometimes it doesn&#8217;t work out good for the patients because patients are left high and dry with gap expenses which the health funds don&#8217;t cover.</p><p>Back to your question about China&#8217;s health system. China has a range of options to see what kind of health care system it wants in place and the cost. Having a universal health system will be take decades. But to have something in place that can get the process going, maybe help kickstart the private health industry so that people who work or who can afford, pay private health insurance.</p><p>This will relief pressure from the public hospitals and public purse strings.</p><p>Just my 2 cents worth.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Rick in China</title><link>http://www.chinasmack.com/stories/migrant-worker-cannot-pay-hospital-doctor-suffers/#comment-9850</link> <dc:creator>Rick in China</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 05:01:46 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.chinasmack.com/?p=3959#comment-9850</guid> <description>@Fireworks
Your statements have no qualification or insights, they&#039;re just carpet statements - can you add some more information to your thoughts in terms of what specifically you think the Chinese government may be able to realistically accomplish towards getting what sort of healthcare system?  The differences between the private/public expendatures on healthcare are significant, btw, compare England to France.  Not wanting to go into a long description and critique, read:http://www.who.int/countries/en/Enjoy.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Fireworks<br
/> Your statements have no qualification or insights, they&#8217;re just carpet statements &#8211; can you add some more information to your thoughts in terms of what specifically you think the Chinese government may be able to realistically accomplish towards getting what sort of healthcare system?  The differences between the private/public expendatures on healthcare are significant, btw, compare England to France.  Not wanting to go into a long description and critique, read:</p><p><a
href="http://www.who.int/countries/en/" rel="nofollow">http://www.who.int/countries/en/</a></p><p>Enjoy.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: fireworks</title><link>http://www.chinasmack.com/stories/migrant-worker-cannot-pay-hospital-doctor-suffers/#comment-9834</link> <dc:creator>fireworks</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 01:04:32 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.chinasmack.com/?p=3959#comment-9834</guid> <description>I think China will have to create a universal healthcare system somewhere between the best which is supposedly the UK, France, Germany and Ireland ... western European countries and the United States where the PMO profits on patients.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think China will have to create a universal healthcare system somewhere between the best which is supposedly the UK, France, Germany and Ireland &#8230; western European countries and the United States where the PMO profits on patients.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: See from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia</title><link>http://www.chinasmack.com/stories/migrant-worker-cannot-pay-hospital-doctor-suffers/#comment-9779</link> <dc:creator>See from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 14:56:10 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.chinasmack.com/?p=3959#comment-9779</guid> <description>smicko,you started the war. I was not critical of china. you started it. i was only talking about the health care system.
If you are not a chinese and does not belong to any of the minorities there, you have no right to speak for china. you refused to reveal your nationality which goes to show that your own country has nothing to shout about.Son, I am a pure chinese. my late father is from guang dong. I have step brothers from there. do you really think I wish to run down my mother country. to you, china is only your adopted country. I was only talking about the health care system which the chinese themselves agreed there are flaws there. you started talking about those who have money don&#039;t go to K.L. hospital.  your argument reflects your mentality and maturity.We are not the oppressed lot. we don&#039;t shoot people for corruption. I am still proud to be a malaysian. I own three properties and drive a camry.  I can visit my step brothers anytime I want. can I do so if I am victimised by the goverment.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>smicko,</p><p>you started the war. I was not critical of china. you started it. i was only talking about the health care system.<br
/> If you are not a chinese and does not belong to any of the minorities there, you have no right to speak for china. you refused to reveal your nationality which goes to show that your own country has nothing to shout about.</p><p>Son, I am a pure chinese. my late father is from guang dong. I have step brothers from there. do you really think I wish to run down my mother country. to you, china is only your adopted country. I was only talking about the health care system which the chinese themselves agreed there are flaws there. you started talking about those who have money don&#8217;t go to K.L. hospital.  your argument reflects your mentality and maturity.</p><p>We are not the oppressed lot. we don&#8217;t shoot people for corruption. I am still proud to be a malaysian. I own three properties and drive a camry.  I can visit my step brothers anytime I want. can I do so if I am victimised by the goverment.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss><!--
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