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> <channel><title>Comments on: Shanghai Radio Station Criticizes Shanghainese People</title> <atom:link href="http://www.chinasmack.com/stories/shanghai-radio-station-criticizes-shanghainese-people/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.chinasmack.com/stories/shanghai-radio-station-criticizes-shanghainese-people/</link> <description>Hot internet stories, pictures, &#38; videos in China. What’s popular, scandalous, or shocking that have the Chinese talking.</description> <lastBuildDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 23:02:52 -0800</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: TheTravellingMan</title><link>http://www.chinasmack.com/stories/shanghai-radio-station-criticizes-shanghainese-people/#comment-35954</link> <dc:creator>TheTravellingMan</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 10:34:43 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.chinasmack.com/?p=1837#comment-35954</guid> <description>Wuyue region, who gives a hoot man, your language isn&#039;t even a tenth as prestigious as Cantonese or Hokkien outside of China and is despised within to boot. You have no movies or any music of any interest in your language and no one can talk at a volume less than 300 decibels.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wuyue region, who gives a hoot man, your language isn&#8217;t even a tenth as prestigious as Cantonese or Hokkien outside of China and is despised within to boot. You have no movies or any music of any interest in your language and no one can talk at a volume less than 300 decibels.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: TheTravellingMan</title><link>http://www.chinasmack.com/stories/shanghai-radio-station-criticizes-shanghainese-people/#comment-35953</link> <dc:creator>TheTravellingMan</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 10:30:08 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.chinasmack.com/?p=1837#comment-35953</guid> <description>It wouldn&#039;t matter so much if Shanghainese actually sounded like a decent language. It is positively disgusting on the ears the volume and the whole intonation with which it is spoken. People just shout at each other in that annoying pig talk all damn day....never once have I heard it been spoken in a manner which sounded appealing in the slightest...</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It wouldn&#8217;t matter so much if Shanghainese actually sounded like a decent language. It is positively disgusting on the ears the volume and the whole intonation with which it is spoken. People just shout at each other in that annoying pig talk all damn day&#8230;.never once have I heard it been spoken in a manner which sounded appealing in the slightest&#8230;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: cerebraite</title><link>http://www.chinasmack.com/stories/shanghai-radio-station-criticizes-shanghainese-people/#comment-33032</link> <dc:creator>cerebraite</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 16:29:41 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.chinasmack.com/?p=1837#comment-33032</guid> <description>&quot;BTW, the reason why French will only speak French to foreigners is because they have been taught&quot;
Naah, I don&#039;t agree with that. The real reason is simply that French people are not very comfortable with English language :) That&#039;s all.&quot;France forbids English words with a French equivalent to be used, the insertion of English worlds would be considered as language pollution.&quot;
That&#039;s right for formal written French, like published paper etc... But informally, when talking with or writing to friends for instance, they use more English words you can think, especially with the young generation, they perceive this as to-be-in.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;BTW, the reason why French will only speak French to foreigners is because they have been taught&#8221;<br
/> Naah, I don&#8217;t agree with that. The real reason is simply that French people are not very comfortable with English language :) That&#8217;s all.</p><p>&#8220;France forbids English words with a French equivalent to be used, the insertion of English worlds would be considered as language pollution.&#8221;<br
/> That&#8217;s right for formal written French, like published paper etc&#8230; But informally, when talking with or writing to friends for instance, they use more English words you can think, especially with the young generation, they perceive this as to-be-in.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mr. Potato</title><link>http://www.chinasmack.com/stories/shanghai-radio-station-criticizes-shanghainese-people/#comment-31265</link> <dc:creator>Mr. Potato</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 14:38:17 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.chinasmack.com/?p=1837#comment-31265</guid> <description>Umm.... ok. If I insist on speaking Pig Latin with my nose in the air and laugh as other people scratch their heads in confusion, is that not ignorant, childish and arrogant? It may be my right to speak what I want, but it isn&#039;t polite to snub others by speaking a language I KNOW others don&#039;t understand; especially when it&#039;s obvious that I can communicate perfectly well with a language we share in common. The broadcaster didn&#039;t appear to say that speaking Shanghainese was wrong. He said that it was wrong to be rude to other people.Shanghainese people have every right to speak whatever language they want at home or in the company of friends. There is nothing rude about that. But I&#039;ve witnessed first-hand how Shanghainese intentionally speak Shanghainese to outsiders in order to &quot;gain the upper hand&quot; in arguments. I&#039;ve seen those outsiders smile and politely ask the Shanghainese to communicate in Mandarin to no avail. If that isn&#039;t simply rude and arrogant, I don&#039;t know what is.To all those Shanghainese I say: keep your language and culture close to your heart. Treasure it all you want. But don&#039;t use it as a tool to harbor ignorance and arrogance. I think that was all that announcer was trying to communicate.I think English is an international language. I love the language and think it is quite useful and beautiful. I think that some of the brightest and most educated people in today&#039;s world speak English. That being said, I don&#039;t snub my nose at the local store clerk and insist on speaking a language she doesn&#039;t understand. That would be rude and ignorant of me. I speak her language because I realize that communication is a two-way street. Likewise, I drive my car on the appropriate side of the road instead of driving down the center and expecting others to swerve. This is all about respect for others, which some people apparently have never learned.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Umm&#8230;. ok. If I insist on speaking Pig Latin with my nose in the air and laugh as other people scratch their heads in confusion, is that not ignorant, childish and arrogant? It may be my right to speak what I want, but it isn&#8217;t polite to snub others by speaking a language I KNOW others don&#8217;t understand; especially when it&#8217;s obvious that I can communicate perfectly well with a language we share in common. The broadcaster didn&#8217;t appear to say that speaking Shanghainese was wrong. He said that it was wrong to be rude to other people.</p><p>Shanghainese people have every right to speak whatever language they want at home or in the company of friends. There is nothing rude about that. But I&#8217;ve witnessed first-hand how Shanghainese intentionally speak Shanghainese to outsiders in order to &#8220;gain the upper hand&#8221; in arguments. I&#8217;ve seen those outsiders smile and politely ask the Shanghainese to communicate in Mandarin to no avail. If that isn&#8217;t simply rude and arrogant, I don&#8217;t know what is.</p><p>To all those Shanghainese I say: keep your language and culture close to your heart. Treasure it all you want. But don&#8217;t use it as a tool to harbor ignorance and arrogance. I think that was all that announcer was trying to communicate.</p><p>I think English is an international language. I love the language and think it is quite useful and beautiful. I think that some of the brightest and most educated people in today&#8217;s world speak English. That being said, I don&#8217;t snub my nose at the local store clerk and insist on speaking a language she doesn&#8217;t understand. That would be rude and ignorant of me. I speak her language because I realize that communication is a two-way street. Likewise, I drive my car on the appropriate side of the road instead of driving down the center and expecting others to swerve. This is all about respect for others, which some people apparently have never learned.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: what</title><link>http://www.chinasmack.com/stories/shanghai-radio-station-criticizes-shanghainese-people/#comment-31081</link> <dc:creator>what</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 16:35:57 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.chinasmack.com/?p=1837#comment-31081</guid> <description>Cantonese is not a language, its a dialect. You guys use mandarin as words when you write them down, how can it be a language?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cantonese is not a language, its a dialect. You guys use mandarin as words when you write them down, how can it be a language?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Joshua</title><link>http://www.chinasmack.com/stories/shanghai-radio-station-criticizes-shanghainese-people/#comment-29122</link> <dc:creator>Joshua</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 08:40:22 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.chinasmack.com/?p=1837#comment-29122</guid> <description>I live in Canada &amp; I heard from a classmate in my university that came from Heilongjiang that Shanghainese people are the most arrogant in all of China and call everyone else &quot;wai di ren&quot; (outsider) and consider them all inferior &amp; backwards. That&#039;s a horrible attitude, they are all Chinese why discriminate against one another? Maybe he&#039;s right when he said all Southern Chinese are less intelligent.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in Canada &amp; I heard from a classmate in my university that came from Heilongjiang that Shanghainese people are the most arrogant in all of China and call everyone else &#8220;wai di ren&#8221; (outsider) and consider them all inferior &amp; backwards. That&#8217;s a horrible attitude, they are all Chinese why discriminate against one another? Maybe he&#8217;s right when he said all Southern Chinese are less intelligent.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Not Found</title><link>http://www.chinasmack.com/stories/shanghai-radio-station-criticizes-shanghainese-people/#comment-25569</link> <dc:creator>Not Found</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 01:56:01 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.chinasmack.com/?p=1837#comment-25569</guid> <description>Whats wrong with we speak our language? You can speak whatever your dialect is too, does our shagginess trying to say &quot; its a bad habit to speak your wai di dialect, you are just trying to show you are prior to people from other cities? We never said that,  its people who look down upon themselves panic all the time that other people don&#039;t like them, grow up, our shagginess people have proud in our heart to be who we are, so just be proud of who you are and if you can&#039;t. at least stop whining !</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whats wrong with we speak our language? You can speak whatever your dialect is too, does our shagginess trying to say &#8221; its a bad habit to speak your wai di dialect, you are just trying to show you are prior to people from other cities? We never said that,  its people who look down upon themselves panic all the time that other people don&#8217;t like them, grow up, our shagginess people have proud in our heart to be who we are, so just be proud of who you are and if you can&#8217;t. at least stop whining !</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Shanghainese Anonymous</title><link>http://www.chinasmack.com/stories/shanghai-radio-station-criticizes-shanghainese-people/#comment-24334</link> <dc:creator>Shanghainese Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 22:43:39 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.chinasmack.com/?p=1837#comment-24334</guid> <description>Not just that, Shanghainese is a part of the cultural legacy of the Kingdom of Wuyue during the Five Dynasties and Ten Kingdoms period, after the fall of the Tang. More specifically, Shanghainese is a variant of the Suzhou dialect of the Taihu Wu Chinese language (aka Northern Wu). It was also the last kingdom left standing before the Song dynasty annexed it (without military force).</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not just that, Shanghainese is a part of the cultural legacy of the Kingdom of Wuyue during the Five Dynasties and Ten Kingdoms period, after the fall of the Tang. More specifically, Shanghainese is a variant of the Suzhou dialect of the Taihu Wu Chinese language (aka Northern Wu). It was also the last kingdom left standing before the Song dynasty annexed it (without military force).</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Shanghainese Anonymous</title><link>http://www.chinasmack.com/stories/shanghai-radio-station-criticizes-shanghainese-people/#comment-24333</link> <dc:creator>Shanghainese Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 22:36:49 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.chinasmack.com/?p=1837#comment-24333</guid> <description>You do have a valid point there.Why can&#039;t China be a bilingual or multilingual society? A monolingual society is just boring- look at American culture. People speak english, they live an idyllic life, but life is boring.But the thing is that the trend is that people ONLY speak mandarin- that&#039;s the problem, the problem is not speaking mandarin itself, but the constant reinforcement of monolingual education in mandarin.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You do have a valid point there.</p><p>Why can&#8217;t China be a bilingual or multilingual society? A monolingual society is just boring- look at American culture. People speak english, they live an idyllic life, but life is boring.</p><p>But the thing is that the trend is that people ONLY speak mandarin- that&#8217;s the problem, the problem is not speaking mandarin itself, but the constant reinforcement of monolingual education in mandarin.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Shanghainese Anonymous</title><link>http://www.chinasmack.com/stories/shanghai-radio-station-criticizes-shanghainese-people/#comment-24331</link> <dc:creator>Shanghainese Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 22:30:10 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.chinasmack.com/?p=1837#comment-24331</guid> <description>I agree with Sammy.Even though I&#039;m part of the so-called &#039;new generation&#039; of shanghainese, but I was born and raised in the US, but somehow, despite all the constant outside influence, I can still speak the Wu Chinese language. When I see monolingual Mandarin-speaking Shanghainese, it just pisses me off. Fucking disgrace to all shanghainese people. they&#039;re throwing thousands of years of history down the drain. They don&#039;t even know about the contributions of the Wuyue kingdom, and i&#039;m proud of being Wuyue Chinese as well as being shanghainese.Shanghainese aren&#039;t racist or intolerant. We&#039;re just too proud (with emphasis on proud) of speaking Wu Chinese and being part of the Wuyue Chinese culture. And Wu Chinese is the true intellectual&#039;s language with classical chinese words- mandarin is a mongol and turkic influenced language. And Mandarin took a lot of Wu Chinese words and expressions too, because most writers in Mandarin during early 20th century were native Wu speakers, that so many Wu Chinese speakers think that their language is part Mandarin. Shanghainese is basically Suzhou dialect with some marginal influence from Ningbonese and English.But even so, I think Shanghainese think that they&#039;re superior to their own fellow Wuyue Wu-speaking Chinese (Ningbonese, Hangzhounese) because of this whitewashed colonial mentality. Most native shanghainese came from somewhere else (usually northern Zhejiang or southern Jiangsu, so no one can be truly 100% native shanghainese.)I&#039;d love to teach shanghainese to the future generations, but the thing is, i&#039;m afraid that i&#039;m no longer fluent in the language.hearing at least a few words of shanghainese would cure my homesickness to an extent.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Sammy.</p><p>Even though I&#8217;m part of the so-called &#8216;new generation&#8217; of shanghainese, but I was born and raised in the US, but somehow, despite all the constant outside influence, I can still speak the Wu Chinese language. When I see monolingual Mandarin-speaking Shanghainese, it just pisses me off. Fucking disgrace to all shanghainese people. they&#8217;re throwing thousands of years of history down the drain. They don&#8217;t even know about the contributions of the Wuyue kingdom, and i&#8217;m proud of being Wuyue Chinese as well as being shanghainese.</p><p>Shanghainese aren&#8217;t racist or intolerant. We&#8217;re just too proud (with emphasis on proud) of speaking Wu Chinese and being part of the Wuyue Chinese culture. And Wu Chinese is the true intellectual&#8217;s language with classical chinese words- mandarin is a mongol and turkic influenced language. And Mandarin took a lot of Wu Chinese words and expressions too, because most writers in Mandarin during early 20th century were native Wu speakers, that so many Wu Chinese speakers think that their language is part Mandarin. Shanghainese is basically Suzhou dialect with some marginal influence from Ningbonese and English.</p><p>But even so, I think Shanghainese think that they&#8217;re superior to their own fellow Wuyue Wu-speaking Chinese (Ningbonese, Hangzhounese) because of this whitewashed colonial mentality. Most native shanghainese came from somewhere else (usually northern Zhejiang or southern Jiangsu, so no one can be truly 100% native shanghainese.)</p><p>I&#8217;d love to teach shanghainese to the future generations, but the thing is, i&#8217;m afraid that i&#8217;m no longer fluent in the language.</p><p>hearing at least a few words of shanghainese would cure my homesickness to an extent.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss><!--
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