From NetEase:
A National Highway centralized numbering and naming system is gradually being carried out, and Shanghai is one of the cities where this is currently happening. It is reported that Shanghai needs to replace about 5,000 signs, but the whole project will cost 200 million yuan.
The huge cost lead to Han Han, who is a writer and race car driver, to question the plans. On October 15, Sichuan News Network reported Han Han’s sarcastic comment of “a sheet of iron costs 40,000 RMB”. Shanghai Highway Management Department responded that the number of street signs to be replaced is far more than 5,000. Many signs are being updated when they are replaced.
In Shanghai, both street signs and license plates cost thousands of RMB
In Shanghai, according to media reports, the deputy leader of the Shanghai Public Security Bureau Traffic Police Corps, Zuo Tianfu said, in order to be in line with the updates, there will be about 5,000 guideposts that need to be changed. Including the replacement of highway signs, the expense of the renaming and renumbering project will reach 200 million RMB.
Han Han published the post “G8 highway” on his blog, and said that “every sheet of iron costs 40,000RMB. Does it sound familiar?
Yes, it’s the same price of the iron sheet on your cars [Note: In Shanghai, vehicle license plates are obtained by auction. It's normal that each license plate costs thousands of RMB]. This shows that, for so many years, Shanghai’s car-owners were actually unfair to the Shanghai government. Do you think this is extortion? No, the 40,000 is the cost of raw materials. Otherwise, the Shanghai government would not charge the same amount of money for their own iron sheets.”
A netizen on the XCar website said,” A spray painted metal sign for 40,000RMB. Farmed out to me, I would only charge 20,000 each. ” This comment lead to a price competition on line. “Lou zhu you are too greedy, I would laugh to death if they would pay me 10,000 each”, “Give me 8,000, and I will kickback 2,000″, “6000 each, a lifetime guarantee”… …
The most expensive quoted price from suppliers is 1,000 RMB every square meter.
In many Shanghai forums, Han Han’s post has become really popular. Most people agree with his views:” Highway projects are so dark [questionable, shady].” “These signs are so valuable? If so, I won’t go to work anymore. I will steal road signs.” Besides Shanghai, everywhere in the country, they are gradually replacing road signs. According to reports, Foshan, Guangdong province “estimated that the number of the road signs which need to be replaced would be between 2,000 and 3,000, and cost about 5 million RMB or more”. According to the report, the cost is far lower than 40,000 RMB for each sign.
The reporter found some road sign suppliers from Zhejiang, and Shanghai and consulted their prices. The other side responded that the price of the highway signs with the highest quality is between 850 and 1,000 RMB per square meter. To judge from the news pictures, in Shanghai, the size of the signs is about 2 to 5 square meters.
The reporter also found an invitation of tender from a Suzhou City government for road signs. The quoted price relates to not only the construction cost, but also auxiliary materials, accessories, delivery, labor, machinery, storage, installation, insurance, design fees, supervision fees, labor insurance, various taxes and fees (for example imported products should include tariffs), patent technology, all the charges in the warranty period, and so on.
The official response from the Highway Management Office: There are more than 5,000 signs.
About the number of the signs, a Shanghai Highway Administration official said, the point that “each sign cost 40,000 RMB” in Han Han’s blog is wrong. Because the 200 million RMB will not be spent on the 5,000 signs as Han Han said. In fact, the replacement of the signs is a large and complex system project. The 5,000 signs mentioned in Han Han’s blog only refer to the road signs between Shanghai urban districts and highways, which need to be changed. It only takes into account a small part of the project. In fact, the number of the signs which will be changed, in the entire highway, is much more than that amount.
To update all related signs includes all the highway traffic signs, especially the guiding signs, such as entrance notice signs, entrance signs, start (end) point markers, exit notice signs, exit signs, distance signs, services/facilities notice signs, toll station notice signs, etc.; adjusting the highway mileposts, as well as changing the name of toll stations and so on. In addition to the replacement of road signs, but also in accordance with national standards to re-design and re-brand, and some key signs of the basis for reinforcement, protection, handling, etc., involving a wide range of human and material resources.
Read more: Han Han’s original Chinese post “G8 Highway“, and his response to “a large and complex system project“.
Comments from NetEase:
网易山东青岛网友：
China’s corrupt officials’ way of money-laundering.
网易福建莆田网友：
Look at Foshan’s 3000 signs only cost 5 million. How can this kind of government discipline boost GDP? In the end, it’s still Shanghai that is most niu, able to turn 5000 metal plates into 200 milllion GDP.
网易北京网友：
In fact, I think Han Han being able to survive until now is already pretty good, and this is our [society's] greatest progress.
网易江苏南京网友：
So this is how the money is spent, I’m speechless.
网易辽宁沈阳网友：
I bet they are pure gold road signs!
网易四川自贡网友：
Without construction, how could there be kickbacks?
网易黑龙江牡丹江网友：
They’re all a bunch of JB, using/taking the ordinary common people’s money.
网易内蒙古网友：
If the 200 million RMB is not being used to replace only 5,000 signs as Han Han understood, then just how many signs are being replaced? 5,100?
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yes, I finally beat Pusan.
A pyrrhic victory, I assure you!
Easily solved, just ask for a copy of the public expense records….oh nevermind, i was thinking of a different country.
I lol’d heartily.
Are you a party member?
The cost is about right.
5000 for the ultra quality crash and dent proof pole
5000 for the boards, ultra quality that can resist all weathering
2000 for the installation and cheap labour
8000 for sauna sessions
10000 for high end dinner sessions
10000 for KTV sessions
So yeah 40,000 the Chinese way! Apparently its not cheaper despite cheaper labour costs lol!
Not entirely correct… the last 28000RMB goes to making the Ark in preparation for 2012
CCP leaders ! China will be destroyed if this shameful behaviour is allowed to continue. Time for the firing squad to drag some bastard to the firing range again. Take appropriate action immediately !
Friend, the CCP leaders have a cut in the cost too.. so who do you think will take action against them?
Maybe they could use a hitman? Bullets are cheap anyway, so maybe an informal arrangement but only on particularly clear cut cases with an unofficial but govt. sanctioned, ‘Underground Corps’ could be employed to save tax payer monies if a stint in the labour camp is being too merciful. Very good idea!
But the Chinese citizens should be pre-warned to get used to and not be shocked when cost saving ‘accidents’ happen. In time, the citizens would love the drama. No human has any love for Sanlu types and corrupt officials anyway . . .
Shooting the government bastards won’t solve anything. The problem comes from the structure of China’s economic and political system. You can shoot the corrupt officials for the next 100 years. Or you can change/promote a structure of government that is transparent and holds officials accountable to the public for their actions.
Am all for transparency and accountability alongside cost saving measures as well. These bastards do not deserve the dignity of a trial and should die like dogs in the street.
woot, wooooooooooooot!
first!
and btw, 40.000?
ridiculoso!
SB Leaders! And yet,many people are suffering in the rural areas. Bad leaders!
Heh, at least they’re actually putting up signs giving directions instead of spending $6K (USD) on signs saying “we’re having fun spending your money:”
http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2009/07/highway_signs_identifying_fede.html
wow, these cost almost as much as the “Putting America to Work” and “Project Funded by the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act” sign we see around here.
Graft, plain and simple.
40000RMB= About $7000-$8000 per. I think this is a bargain. Just look at some of the support structures that are carrying several signs. This constant bitching about things seems to become a sickness. Some guys should get their asses away from the computer for a while and start doing something meaningful, like cleaning up the filth and garbage that is all over the place.
Would you like an expensive sign outside your bedroom door that says ‘MEN AT WORK’? Try chinaSMACK personals.
This is not new news…How about the constant high cost of repair of roads etc…It is time to demand change !! not just to such matters but to all others.
Take for example …. Scrap collect in Dongguan township. This has been talked about so very often and had gone from bad to worst lately. I know of at least 2 cases of assult in the last 2 months. What happen to these cases ? One of the case happen to a friend of mine. He was slashed both both on the hand and thigh plus another 4 stabs on his waist pouch. If not for his pouch he would have been dead today. He told me that the case will probably be quashed because, it was deemed “MINOR” injury because he was not hospitalized long enough and bed ridden !!! The assilants and the mastermind were all caught and have admitted to the motive, plot and assult. The mastermind was a previous Police Officer in the Township of Houjie, Dongguan, They only received 15 days of detention. The original period was 3 months dentention pending trial. He also cannot press charges because of the nature of “MINOR” injury !!
So what happen to China’s justice system ? Who wil trust China’s Judicial system from now onwards ? Who will champion this and bring about justice to this land ? Does it mean that Justice only prevail when lives are lost ??
How they gonna ball in style if don’t embezzle a little aside for some hoes and Don Pizzle?
Well, we can laugh at this one, but can anyone name me ONE country that has perfectly transparent, on-budget and on-time highway building? I didn’t think so.
In fact I would almost give points to the chinese authorities on this one, who at least are being upfront from the get-go on how exhorbitant it’s gonna be. Usually elsewhere we only hear about it half-way through the project, along with some bullshit excuse. (apparently it’s within the compentence limits of the industry to be off by 50% when calculating the value of a 100-million $ project).
None of you haters have the right to criticize this story. Mostly because none of you haters are CCP members. Catch-22 bitches. Using highway signs as a tool for highway robbery. Classic. I just hope the government officials who did this remembered to return the taxpayers wallets.
http://www.chinasmack.com/stories/thieves-pickpockets-professionalism-chengdu/
That way at least some of the people would thank the government for their professionalism.
This country has about 10 more years in it current state.
China will be lucky if it has 2 years left before collapse. Just look at the traffic outside of any major/medium sized city. Or look at how it’s educational system produces mindless, obedient, robotics slaves.
Some future….!
40 grand for a sign is staggering. hope they have competitive tender for the signs. it could be the labor costs rather than the signs which accounts for the bulk of the cost.
3000 yuan could already erect fully carved stone signs WITH greenery and landscaping. Very organic and pleasant effect for harsh highways and roads. Would be worth considering in future sign erection expenditures.
small fry china is vry rich no worry be happy