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> <channel><title>Comments on: Six Harbin Police Beat To Death University Student</title> <atom:link href="http://www.chinasmack.com/stories/six-harbin-police-beat-to-death-university-student/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.chinasmack.com/stories/six-harbin-police-beat-to-death-university-student/</link> <description>Hot internet stories, pictures, &#38; videos in China. What’s popular, scandalous, or shocking that have the Chinese talking.</description> <lastBuildDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 01:49:45 -0800</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: Fike2308</title><link>http://www.chinasmack.com/stories/six-harbin-police-beat-to-death-university-student/#comment-31941</link> <dc:creator>Fike2308</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 22:01:30 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.chinasmack.com/?p=2263#comment-31941</guid> <description>Yeah, it does seem like they overreacted...</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, it does seem like they overreacted&#8230;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: famours_in_chiner</title><link>http://www.chinasmack.com/stories/six-harbin-police-beat-to-death-university-student/#comment-27691</link> <dc:creator>famours_in_chiner</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 20:07:04 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.chinasmack.com/?p=2263#comment-27691</guid> <description>I hate spoiled Chinese people in China.  I&#039;m glad the cops are punks too. As long as people are dissatisfied with the system and the people that control it, the better it will be.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate spoiled Chinese people in China.  I&#8217;m glad the cops are punks too. As long as people are dissatisfied with the system and the people that control it, the better it will be.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Joe C.</title><link>http://www.chinasmack.com/stories/six-harbin-police-beat-to-death-university-student/#comment-18273</link> <dc:creator>Joe C.</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 08:48:04 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.chinasmack.com/?p=2263#comment-18273</guid> <description>@ Robert Hack:  Your claim of being a lawyer has sure pedded the bullshit-o-meter.  I guess that&#039;s why you are in China raping girls.Your book is garbage.  Anybody can read it here for free (because nobody would obviously pay for it) here:http://www.worthyofpublishing.com/R18.asp?book_ID=1059Was that book written by your 2-year-old sister?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Robert Hack:  Your claim of being a lawyer has sure pedded the bullshit-o-meter.  I guess that&#8217;s why you are in China raping girls.</p><p>Your book is garbage.  Anybody can read it here for free (because nobody would obviously pay for it) here:</p><p><a
href="http://www.worthyofpublishing.com/R18.asp?book_ID=1059" rel="nofollow">http://www.worthyofpublishing.com/R18.asp?book_ID=1059</a></p><p>Was that book written by your 2-year-old sister?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Truck Driver Repeatedly Blocks Police Car &#124; chinaSMACK</title><link>http://www.chinasmack.com/stories/six-harbin-police-beat-to-death-university-student/#comment-17838</link> <dc:creator>Truck Driver Repeatedly Blocks Police Car &#124; chinaSMACK</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 20:15:29 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.chinasmack.com/?p=2263#comment-17838</guid> <description>[...] Six Harbin Police Beat To Death University Student [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Six Harbin Police Beat To Death University Student [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: cardin</title><link>http://www.chinasmack.com/stories/six-harbin-police-beat-to-death-university-student/#comment-14581</link> <dc:creator>cardin</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:08:41 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.chinasmack.com/?p=2263#comment-14581</guid> <description>some people have mation that the time on the video was worng!
the police did hidden sth!i want to know how did the story end</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>some people have mation that the time on the video was worng!<br
/> the police did hidden sth!</p><p>i want to know how did the story end</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: this</title><link>http://www.chinasmack.com/stories/six-harbin-police-beat-to-death-university-student/#comment-11894</link> <dc:creator>this</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 20:44:23 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.chinasmack.com/?p=2263#comment-11894</guid> <description>People should watch the video first before making any judgement. The university student is a scumbag to the police, displaying arrogant attitude and even hit the police first. I am not saying who&#039;s right or wrong. But One has the responsibility to know the whole situation and not let your emotions effect your judgement.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People should watch the video first before making any judgement. The university student is a scumbag to the police, displaying arrogant attitude and even hit the police first. I am not saying who&#8217;s right or wrong. But One has the responsibility to know the whole situation and not let your emotions effect your judgement.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: An American Friend</title><link>http://www.chinasmack.com/stories/six-harbin-police-beat-to-death-university-student/#comment-8622</link> <dc:creator>An American Friend</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 15:49:06 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.chinasmack.com/?p=2263#comment-8622</guid> <description>Rick in China,
Are you an American? I am curious because your English is excellent and suggest that it is your native language?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick in China,<br
/> Are you an American? I am curious because your English is excellent and suggest that it is your native language?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Rick in China</title><link>http://www.chinasmack.com/stories/six-harbin-police-beat-to-death-university-student/#comment-7815</link> <dc:creator>Rick in China</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 04:45:16 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.chinasmack.com/?p=2263#comment-7815</guid> <description>@An American Friend
I think your observations are logical and likely - in an earlier post I mentioned the same observations without coming to the conclusion of asphyxiation, I thought maybe he had a heart attack or broke his neck in a fall or something similar.  I think your explanation sounds more likely.  As far as pepper spray at clubs - sure it&#039;s not illegal, but I doubt the bouncers would let you pack that shit in their establishment :D</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@An American Friend<br
/> I think your observations are logical and likely &#8211; in an earlier post I mentioned the same observations without coming to the conclusion of asphyxiation, I thought maybe he had a heart attack or broke his neck in a fall or something similar.  I think your explanation sounds more likely.  As far as pepper spray at clubs &#8211; sure it&#8217;s not illegal, but I doubt the bouncers would let you pack that shit in their establishment :D</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: An American Friend</title><link>http://www.chinasmack.com/stories/six-harbin-police-beat-to-death-university-student/#comment-7785</link> <dc:creator>An American Friend</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 19:13:23 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.chinasmack.com/?p=2263#comment-7785</guid> <description>Rick in China,
I do not go to clubs and bars often and I do not drink alcohol but if I did choose to go to those places I would indeed carry my OC pepper spray because I am not allowed to carry a firearm while off duty in those types of establishments but there are no regulations against carrying spray because it cannot cause death or permanent injury.  Again, without having all of the facts in this case I am hesitant to  make assumptions but this is what I believe probably occured.  I think that the cause of death will likely be asphyxiation due to constraint of the victim&#039;s torso.  When 6 unarmed men try to subdue one resisting person, the altercation always results in the single individual being pinned down by the others.  In law enforcement we call this a &quot;pig pile&quot;.  Looking at the post mortem photos of the suspect, I did not observe any obvious indications of severe pysical injury.  This would suggest that he was not fatally beaten since we would see evidence of this in the photos.  He was likely suffocated while being restrained by the officers.  The weight of 6 men is enough to cause death because the suspect cannot breathe whith this amount of weight on him.  Again, only an autopsy will reveal the actual cause of death.  If the officers were indeed only trying to restrain an intoxicated suspect who was actively resisting, criminal charges would not be warranted since they did not intend to cause death.  If we find out that the officers were grossly negligent and continued to use force after the suspect was under control than a lesser charge of involuntary manslaughter may be appropriate.  What do you think?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick in China,<br
/> I do not go to clubs and bars often and I do not drink alcohol but if I did choose to go to those places I would indeed carry my OC pepper spray because I am not allowed to carry a firearm while off duty in those types of establishments but there are no regulations against carrying spray because it cannot cause death or permanent injury.  Again, without having all of the facts in this case I am hesitant to  make assumptions but this is what I believe probably occured.  I think that the cause of death will likely be asphyxiation due to constraint of the victim&#8217;s torso.  When 6 unarmed men try to subdue one resisting person, the altercation always results in the single individual being pinned down by the others.  In law enforcement we call this a &#8220;pig pile&#8221;.  Looking at the post mortem photos of the suspect, I did not observe any obvious indications of severe pysical injury.  This would suggest that he was not fatally beaten since we would see evidence of this in the photos.  He was likely suffocated while being restrained by the officers.  The weight of 6 men is enough to cause death because the suspect cannot breathe whith this amount of weight on him.  Again, only an autopsy will reveal the actual cause of death.  If the officers were indeed only trying to restrain an intoxicated suspect who was actively resisting, criminal charges would not be warranted since they did not intend to cause death.  If we find out that the officers were grossly negligent and continued to use force after the suspect was under control than a lesser charge of involuntary manslaughter may be appropriate.  What do you think?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Rick in China</title><link>http://www.chinasmack.com/stories/six-harbin-police-beat-to-death-university-student/#comment-7553</link> <dc:creator>Rick in China</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 02:30:54 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.chinasmack.com/?p=2263#comment-7553</guid> <description>@An American Friend
I agree that if they were on duty and had less lethal options to subdue them the outcome could have been different.They were off-duty though, you carry your pepper spray off-duty? to a club?  As for ASP batons, if they had steel whip weapons I am not so sure it would have been a better result than using their fists. :)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@An American Friend<br
/> I agree that if they were on duty and had less lethal options to subdue them the outcome could have been different.</p><p>They were off-duty though, you carry your pepper spray off-duty? to a club?  As for ASP batons, if they had steel whip weapons I am not so sure it would have been a better result than using their fists. :)</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss><!--
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