From Sina:
5 Shanghai chengguan arrested for beating and paralyzing an illegal street vendor
Due to 10 watermelons illegally stacked on the sidewalk, fruit vendor Peng Lin and chengguan [城管, city managers/city inspectors, responsible for enforcing city codes, regulations, and laws) had a violent confrontation. He was then dragged by chengguan onto a law enforcement car to be taken to the local police station. However, when the police questioned him, Peng Lin appeared dazed, even unable to sit steadily. Through medical examinations, Peng Lin was determined to have suffered brain damage, his right-hand side limbs partially paralyzed. The hospital immediately issued a critical condition notice.
According to Peng Lin, when the city inspectors dragged him onto the law enforcement and sent him to the police station, they beat him. Yesterday, Minhang police confirmed to this journalist that on 13 July, 5 chengguan personnel were arrested under suspicion of intentional assault. Presently, Peng Lin is basically no longer in life-threatening condition.
You can go to the Sina news article to see the news report video. In the video, you can see the struggle and fight between the street vendor and chengguan. Peng Lin had a knife in his hand. He also bite a chengguan in his lower leg during the fight.
Comments from Sina:
新浪山西临汾网友:
Support city managers. All city managers should be given special forces training, so they can train hard their ability to beat people and beat small businessmen and vendors crippled and paralyzed. That way the world will be peaceful and China will be strong and powerful!
新浪山西运城网友:
Beating to death city managers and society will be stable!!! City managers are society's cancer!!!
新浪四川德阳网友:
I am currently working hard to save money, and soon I will be able to emigrate to America, lovely America, I'm coming...
新浪辽宁铁岭网友:
To speak conscientiously, if there were no chengguan, what do you think the city would be like! Sometimes when you cannot make yourself clear and cannot persuade them to move, you must use force. You think rural commoners/peasants are all decent people? If he did not break the rules, the chengguan would have no reason to bother him. No matter how chengguan enforce the law, it is all for keeping the city clean and orderly. If they refuse to leave and you cannot use force, if it were you, you would have long ago become aggravated! I am a rural peasant/farmer, and the circumstances in the countryside are very bad too. This is because there is no tough methods of enforcing the law. Everywhere there are piles of trash, street vendors litter wherever they want, loudspeakers constantly hawking goods. Transfer these chengguan to where I am, I warmly welcome them!
新浪山西运城网友:
Peddler, why did you violently resist the law! Even if it is for your living, you still need to abide by the laws. If the peddler did not violently resist the law, if the city managers enforced the law in a civilized manner, then this kind of outcome would not have happened.
新浪网友手机用户:
The completely lawless should definitely be beaten. They occupy the path with their wares, and even want to oppose those enforcing the law. They deserve it, deserve being beaten!
新浪贵州网友:
Street peddlers are not completely lawless, they are just trying to make a living. The truly lawless are the people with power in their hands [ex. government].
新浪福建网友手机用户:
Doing evil yet again! Why can’t you guys [chengguan] get along with the people harmoniously? What law enforcement? You guys are supposed to service, manage, and safeguard the city’s appearance and order. The people you are facing are ordinary vendors and street vendors trying to survive, not criminals. What law are you enforcing? What kind of administration? Stop making yourselves look good. If you don’t change your thinking soon, the ordinary common people will consider alternatives.
新浪上海网友:
What is wrong with Shanghai? What is wrong with Minhang? First a building falls over, then a perfectly fine person is beaten paralyzed. What is going to happen next?
新浪安徽网友:
This peddler Peng Lin is not a saint either!
[He] often monopolizes, runs amok…
A lot of the migrant workers there have all been bullied by him!
And this time, he actually wielded a knife,
violently resisting law enforcement!
He completely has himself to blame!
From KDS:
The watermelon seller was wrong, but should not be punished with lifelong paralysis!
Those speaking for the chengguan, I only have one thing to say: Grass mud horse.
Comments from KDS:
愿望:
City managers have already topped gangsters.
小小酥:
All we know is that the people the Communist Party sent out have beaten and paralyzed the people.
沉默的距离:
LZ, this is considered an unintended incident, tragedy! I do not know if this is our tragedy our the country’s tragedy!
内衣组特:
A hard disk that sinned and was discarded.
社会主义好:
Actually, since it is Anhui chengguan beating an Anhui peddler, it is none of our business.
光头:
Selling watermelons but not carrying a watermelon knife, how can that be called selling watermelons??? This is the same logic as a cook not bringing a pot/pan…
南梦宫主人:
Those speaking for the chengguan, come read. When Minhang District goes to clear street vendors, it is with the public sanitation departments’ personnel who each month do not even make 2000 kuai. Now that 5 people are going to jail, what will their families do?
When people are beat, the real chengguan never come out. When something happens, they call us brothers out to go take the blame. Those who have chengguan in their families cannot lift their heads [should be ashamed].
猴囧囧:
That’s why all are victims, what is is there to say?
If anything, there are just too many people.
禽心贱胆:
Is there any lack of chengguan beating people news? Is this still an unexpected incident? If this kind of law enforcement method is not changed, then this kind of unexpected incident will only happen more and more. Who knows, one day it will happen to us.
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Based on the title I’d be inclined to take the side of the ‘victim’ here, however, threatening low level ’security’ peasantry with a knife and biting one on the leg is hardly a smart idea. He should have submitted his fucking watermelons. Although he did not deserve something so serious as this, he did fuck up.
Chengguan in general are just uneducated peasants, bullies, bumpkins with minute amounts of power, and we all know what happens when uneducated bullies are given a little bit of power – they abuse all the other peasants they feel are ‘below’ them. They’ll never fuck with someone who has money or clout, but when they see someone hard on their luck, they’ll do anything they can to try to overpower them and feel like they have some kind of position above others.
That being said, watermelon dude shouldn’t have fuckin brought out a knife and got violent, he was doing something ‘illegal’ however minor it was, and was 10 watermelons really worth it?
Guys there were five cops vs. one peddler…
Also was it necessary to beat the guy within an inch of his life.
Beating a guy until he is paralyzed isn’t that a bit too much…
There is a line between enforcing the law and cruel behavior here and the police are not trained to see that. This is why so much of this stuff happens.
In the West, at least outside of the UK, the police would have shot any man who’d came at them with a knife.
you don’t know shit!
Don’t know shit?
Vancouver, BC, Canada, about one month ago.
Homeless man had an exacto knife in his hand and was shot to death by police.
Police claimed he was making “provocative gestures”.
PUSAN is right, I used to be a cop. And for anybody that wants to whine about police using guns, I’ll make you deal. I’ll put you in a dark ghetto at 3 AM with a coked-up gangster with a knife who’s coming straight at you, and I’ll give you a stick (baton) and a gun. Which one will you use? The gun, of course. A knife is just as, if not more, dangerous than a gun at close quarters. You can easily bleed to death in minutes from a knife wound.
Of course in this case, the chengguan are just as much to blame because they took WAY too aggressive action on a street peddler. There was no need for it to reach this point.
…And billy joel, if the cops claimed he was being aggressive he probably was. No cop wants to deal with the huge mess that comes with a shooting death – media coverage, investigation by the department, risk of lawsuits, etc. On top of all that, most cops actually don’t like killing people, believe it or not.
Most police officers give the impression that their life is more important than other peoples. They kill people and say ‘ I feared for my life,” They have body armor, tazers, and batons but choose to use deadly force more often than not.I am a former Marine Force Recon and we have been trained to disarm someone with a knife and put them on the ground without having to shoot them. Police do not seem to have a problem shooting people at all. They are also taught to shoot center mass. Ever heard of a shoulder or leg shot. If you carry a weapon you should be an expert firing it. THIS IS THE TRUTH
try to pull a knife on CHP during one those traffic stops, see what happens. (or you can just watch maximum exposure and see it happen to other people)
Chengguan are not the police.
I like watermelons. The real question is what happened to the watermelons after watermelon dude got taken away? I hope they didn’t go to waste.
HAHAHAHAHA, AWESOME!
The Chenghuans abused their power by beating the vender in the car and the peddler was a dick. Both using a knife to resist enforcement and enforcing laws bare-handedly are not wise. Though chengguans are not cops, they should equip non-lethal weapons like baton and taser.
You know what happens when cheng guan are given Tasers?
Watch much taser news in US lately? Stuff like “74 year old grandma tased for refusing to sign ticket”, and “14 year old girl tased for being rude” — imagine cheng guan with tasers……oh man, news sites would be brimming.
Ah, that’s a problem. Maybe Wuhan Chengguans’ “staring” tactic is useful in some cases?
http://www.danwei.org/front_page_of_the_day/chengguans_new_tactics.php
but definitely not in this one.
LoL! Dude, thanks china smacker and Rick, the above 4 comments in sequence were a hoot and totally made my day. china smacker, great call on linking to that Danwei post, I totally thought of that too!
Oh, and BIGLoser’s comment got a +1 from me too. LoL.
Check this out, a French dude became a chengguan volunteer in Wuhan. What did he do? Cleaning street advertisements on poles and stopping illegal occupation of sidewalk. There’s even a photo in which he’s in chengguan uniform.
http://cn.chinareviewnews.com/doc/1010/3/5/2/101035270.html?coluid=0&kindid=0&docid=101035270
城管不是暴力，是寂寞。
The Chengguan are not violent — they are lonely.
I agree with an above poster; if a street peddler came at a cop in the US with a knife, his ass would be dead.
i doubt chengguan qualify as cops…and i disagree. usually (so i would hope) cops are trained well enough to take a knife from a guy.
Need exact unbiased transcript of events to make proper judgment, but in general, resisting arrest by brandishing a weapon = you’re going to get hurt, if not dead. That’s not to say the chengguan are great cops; many are simply graduates of Thuggery 101.
The fact that they were arrested, however, means that there is at least some attempt to hold people accountable now, even for abuse of migrant workers. Of course, in this kind of situation where it’s likely going to be a five against one testimony, I don’t expect much from China’s judicial system.
Chengguan great cops? They are not even any sort of cop. They are more like code-enforcement officers.
There are increasing chenguan abused their power by beat.
I agree with hawflakes, I think most chengguan are just lonely.
How many of you watched the video on sina.com? If those injury photos were taken after his alleged beat-down by the chengguan at the station, I’m skeptical. The injuries in those photos look minor, and could’ve just been the result of the sidewalk scuffles.
But more importantly, why do Shanghai chengguan look so nice, with shiny helmets and police-style uniforms? The chengguan in my town look scraggly, like they got kicked out of the PLA.
LoL, those chengguan totally didn’t look like what I expected either. I was expecting sweat-stained faded and unbuttoned uniforms, not the Tokyo emergency corps.
Kai, do us both a favour and don’t comment on my posts.
People (or person) in Fujian do not like Kai. So silly.
And chinaSMACK has just evidenced its bias in favor of Kai.
No, I think we’ve just evidenced that you’re the same person who goes by different names trolling me on CNR as well. Grow up, dude.
And how would you know that, except by exchanging, or having direct knowledge of, IP addresses of posters with chinaSMACK?
So you really are? Wow, you’re remarkably easy to smoke out. Here’s the thing, I have IP addresses and other information from CNR, which you trolled upon, so I know you’re from Fujian or logging from Fujian. I don’t know if the IP address matches, but Fauna then confirmed that you’re from Fujian. With this information alone, there was still a possibility that you’re just another person in Fujian who also has a grudge against me, but I guess you kinda gave that one away and removed all doubt. Not my fault, man.
So to you, Kai, anyone who disagrees with you is trolling? My disagreements with you are pale in comaparison to some of the offensive remarks made on this website.
Most importantly to the readers of chinaSMACK, you admit to receiving and giving IP information with chinaSMACK.
No, trolling is not disagreement. I disagree with a lot of people on this website, often very strongly, but I don’t accuse them of trolling. You, I do, because you actually go out of your way on multiple websites to harrass me with personal insults instead of contributions to the topic of discussion.
A ton of offensive comments get dropped on this website, but those responsible for them are usually just passing by. Look at the Kitten Killer Returns thread that recently got a resurgence in commenting traffic. For those of us who have been here long enough, we’ve seen more than a few trolls get thrown out. You’re just the latest one, or maybe the return of an old one, shrug.
Your IP information (and so much more) is logged by WordPress. Fauna is aware that I get harrassed by someone from Fujian. I guess she just finally out’ed you. You should thank her for not revealing more information about you. She’s always been good at out’ing people subtlely.
I like you Kai, FCUK Fujianese…
Ha I’m back bitches!!!
There’s no subtlety to this. It’s a direct exchange of IP information between you and chinaSMACK.
Technically not, but you’re free to think whatever you want. You should know that your IP address is shared with a bunch of other parties and organizations as well. Cue Twilight Zone music…
Scratch that, Kai. Feel free to reply to anything you wish, as long as you do so under the name “Kai”.
Thanks for the permission. But really, the whole Kai must be a moderator on chinaSMACK conspiracy again? LoL, I swear this comes up at least once every quarter. If I were, you’d think I would’ve just banned the lot of you instead of wasting my time arguing with you guys, eh? If Fauna does have a strong bias towards me, I wouldn’t begrudge her for it. She’s human after all. Unfortunately, given the admonishment I occassionally get from her, I wouldn’t say her bias is “strong.” But I do think we’re on friendly terms.
Please go back to quoting passages. I think lolly wants to have a go with you.
Lolly = Kai
You respond so quickly.
Really? I’m Lolly? You think I’d have an argument about Jeremiah with myself? LOL!
Dude, I’m only responding so fast because WE’RE BOTH BROWSING THIS WEBSITE AT THE SAME TIME! WOW! WHAT A CRAZY CONCEPT!
And, to be clear, if you aren’t a moderator yourself, Kai, you are definitely suck buddies with one of them. Your collusion undermines the credibility of this site.
As far as I know, Fauna is the only person with “moderator” privileges. You can see her using both her admin account and her own author account (hint: look at the avatars). Suck buddies? Like I said, we’re on friendly terms. Remember, we along with Elaine of Shanghaiist organized the Transformers movie night event?
I think Fauna’s allowed to have her own thoughts, opinions, even biases against trolls without you threatening the “credibility” of her site. You attract attention to yourself by what you do, posting under different names attacking people. I’ve at least always posted my thoughts under my real name with a link to my blog where you can contact me personally. If you want to go around trolling people incognito, please don’t get upset when you get caught. It was the risk you put yourself in.
Kai, you’ve posted under at least one pseudonym, ‘Lolly’ in the murdered kittens thread. And you have a demonstrated inability to let things go. I tried to mend things in the murdered kittens thread, but since it didn’t support you 100%, you launched this silly retaliation.
There are a lot of teachers in this school who you read and post to this website. If Fauna wants to ban the entire IP address to shelter your fragile ego, then so be it.
I’ll entertain you: What evidence do you have of me being lolly? Did you see the long back-and-forth arguments between lolly and I in that thread? You’re seriously insinuating that I wasted my time arguing with myself?
As for a demonstrated inability to let things go, I make debate passionately, but I don’t think that’s anywhere close to you using multiple aliases to attack, insult, and harrass me on MULTIPLE WEBSITES.
How did you try to mend things with me on the four kitten abuse thread? I don’t even recall having a discussion with an Antwerpren. Were you using a different name?
What retaliation (for the above that I don’t recall) are you talking about? You made a comment I AGREED with on this thread. You said these chengguan don’t look like chengguan. I laughed and agreed with you! If you’re somoene I’ve argued with before, I didn’t even know! How can you accuse me of retaliating?
It was you who made a snippy comment asking me not to comment on your comments. I thought, wow, this guy is kinda mean, but I obliged your request and I didn’t say jack squat on your comment, not even to ask why you said what you did. Until Fauna out’ed you.
I have no way of knowing if that IP address really is a school and there really are a lot of you. I don’t care. You have your MO and you’ve given yourself away. I still think you’re an immature brat who holds a grudge against me for who knows what in the past.
My mate at this college told me about this website. Specifically, he told me it was interesting for the real Chinese perspective, but that he got in an argument with you and that you wouldn’t let it go. I checked chinaSMACK out for myself, started making posts, and kindly asked you leave my posts alone.
The fact of the matter is, he’s obviously right: you incite more rancor and ill-will on this site than anyone else.
Sure, if you say so. Doesn’t quite pass the Occam’s Razor test for me, and I still think you’re trying to cover your ass now, but hey, whatever.
Guys!!! Way to go! You’ve made chinasmack the stage for your pathetic little personal cat fight. I think you two should pick a neutral location, choose your weapons, and then go to town. That’d be fun.
“I think lolly wants to have a go with you.”
You would know that better than anyone else
OMG, you’re kidding me. I SAW him flame you in that thread and made an allusion to it in this thread! I was suggesting that your conspiracy theorizing was ridiculous and that you should go back to quoting passages because I saw that lolly has an issue with you doing that. It’s an ALLUSION, A JOKE, man. How you twisted that into me referring to my alter-ego is such a ridiculous stretch.
why don’t you 2 just go outside,play high and fuck yourself ?
I say they race for it. Each pick a scooter of their choice, then balance a fat ass watermelon on their heads. First one around the block wins. Drop the watermelon, eat shit.
This comment is not grapefruit, but a seedless watermelon.
Saucer of milk, table for two.
My two cents- “no subtlety” would be a “human flesh search engine”-type deal. Goodbye, privacy. I come down on their side.
And to clarify myself, I mean “that’s not happening to you.” And “Goodbye, privacy” refers to the logical consequence of that happening.
And that baby in the video couldn’t find any milk in the microphone.
I’m surprised Kai doesn’t take issue with this. I found it cute that the baby tried to suckle off the microphone.
I’m sure Kai sees some personal attack on him. That this is somehow a Fujian conspiracy against him.
Fujian babies against Kai.
Now you’re just obviously trolling.
Trolling against myself??? I’m commenting on my own post.
我看不下去了
你玩够了
i can’t read either. i am from fujian, i don’t like kai either, he negs all the time. he must find somehting better to do
Yep. It kind of takes away from the discussion when someone comes here intent on making a mess.
ok so we dont know the whole story, some are reluctant to take sides…but some of the comments (translated ones) above just disgust me. like…china needs chengguans to be a world superpower! maybe it was sarcasm i missed there or something, but…how about holding people to the law, for one? maybe this guy knew he was doing something wrong, but i also doubt the governments, esp local ones, make the laws known to their constituents, and also have a reputation for abusing power/making up laws on the spot.
even if its an eye for an eye, his crime was placing watermelons on the street for christs sake!! so now he has to live crippled for life, probably unable to work, will receive no benefit from the state, the chengguans will likely go unpunished, so they will continue to abuse power…i mean, the cycle goes on and on. china has been fermenting like this for decades. just because you build shiny buildings doesnt mean youve progressed. tiananmen, the end of the qing dynasty, civil war…all started with small events such as this one. i have to say, i see china collapsing under revolution before it ever becomes a real “superpower”.
It was definitely sarcasm. It also didn’t mention the word ’superpower’, just said China will become “Strong and powerful”
well…ok. that was how i interpreted it. i hate the street vendors too, constantly harassing you because youre white (or whatever other non-asian looking race) and therefore must be rolling in money!!! but i mean..paralyzing the guy??! come on..
i love street food(part of the Asia culture), do some street shopping,poor people just want to make some small money for living here, what’s wrong with that!!! because you got a little bit money and live in the super clean apartment, neat freak….so you want to treat these poor people as criminal, is that fair. maybe you grandpa did this long time ago when he just moved to shanghai, met your grandmother on the street….you better think again!!!
You will be screaming for justice when someone you love die from food poisoning after eating at illegal street stalls, and the unlicensed vendor goes missing.
Allow street stalls but license them please.
in china, you can believe license!!!!
the restaurants wont be so much cleaner than the street food,sometimes even worse. you better eat at home everyday , you mind still die by the tap water…..
you are better to stay oversea, dont come back china!!!
I think you missed my point. With licensing, at least you know who to go after when something happens to you after you ate their food.
Having a system is always better than having none at all. Come to Singapore and see how we manage our street hawkers.
yes you are right to have a system is better than none. the point is who is the responsible for the system, poor seller or the government? now the cheng guan didn’t try to organize some systems here, they are just chasing people. a lot of people depend on this for making living here. also the system wont fit to the everyone, unless we are robots…..
by the way you are lucky in Singapore,what a nice clean city (one of the most boring cities in the world), you guys did great jobs, but sorry i prefer something more interesting….
Yeah…. well….. from the video, I couldn’t see any “brain damage” they must have beat him inside the truck on the way to the police station.
But, to be honest, he was resisting arrest…. I’m sure if he would have just put his hands behind his back and went, it wouldn’t of went so bad.
Then again, that many people weren’t necessary.
My colleague’s husband is a cop and said the paichusuo gets a half dozen complaints about the chengguan every week, and are sick of having to go and investigate the f^ckers all the time cos they’ve beaten another person up again.
Although I agree that violence in any case is simply wrong, I do urge people to not focus on the one violent event. The truth is that especially in urban Chinese cities, there is a lack of street selling/hawking management. The largest conflict is of course the more crowed the roads are, the more people there will be, the more customers, and thus the more hawkers. Local governments should put more resources in developing more formal areas of conducting business, making it simpler to get licenses, and helping the hawkers find better ways of selling their products legally. Unless this is done, they have no choice, they too need to feed their families. I also agree that any unnecessary violence should be punished, and looking back on similar cases that have hit the media, these individuals will be imprisoned, and the hawker will be compensated by the local government. But until the proper buyer/seller environment is set up, these clashes just cannot be avoided. I should add this is not just a problem in China, but all developing cities.
That would be the smart idea- marking off patches of space for street peddlers to sell their food/cheap stuff/whatever, though it would kill off some of the convenience of the street peddlers being right there (and that’s the issue- they’re convenient because they’re right there, but they’re inconvenient at the same time; move them and you’ve removed the street clog, but you’ve also made it less convenient to get to the stuff).
Sorry Jamar, I have to be a bit sarcastic here but… they do have little patches of space for peddlers to sell their wares/food/cheap stuff… they’re called markets.
I actually don’t mind street vendors… too much.
I was thinking something smaller than the markets that currently exist, but yeah, that was the general idea. And I like the street vendors too, especially the takoyaki stalls (I live in Shanghai, there may not be any takoyaki stalls in other Chinese cities due to it being a Japanese thing).
Some of those nong mins who go to the city are very rude sometimes so I am not surprised that one could pull a knife to defend his melons. Sometimes when I/we go to take a look at some guy selling fruits or plants at the side of the road and we don’t buy something they say my gf is a whore or that I am a white ghost (or worse). I used to feel very sympathetic to the poor people of China but sometimes they just act too niu bi.
agreed. esp if they go too far and actually touch/grab you to try and get you to buy something. i wonder what would happen if a foreigner punched out one of those guys..?
“…so I am not surprised that one could pull a knife to defend his melons.”
What a great phrase.
Man!!!… They weren’t just 5 cops there. 5 were active while the rest were unnerving him!
Great work by the Chengguan. What is this stupid farmer boy thinking? Trying to sell his 10 stolen swine flue infected watermelons without a license is some serious shit. He deserved to get his ass kicked. After all the government are making all possible efforts to create jobs for everybody and maintain stability among all ethnic groups – just watch cctv.Ungrateful little piece of shit. He should be forced to sing the national hymn 100 times. Zhonghua Renmin Gongheguo Wan Sui
Shanghai should be setting a good example to the rest of China on how to manage its prosperity and administrative functions. This article only illustrates the municipal law enforcement are the same everywhere no matter if they are the biggest city who aims to be the New York (business capital) of China.
Feel terribly sorry for the street vendor who has been physically assaulted and left disabled. His livelihood is absolutely shattered. How is he going to break away from the poverty cycle and support his children.
hate the chengguan. but if they are necessary, they should solve the “art student” “come see my tea ceremony” “dvd, handbag, watch” crowd. If they can’t solve those problems, they have no chance with the masses of street vendors.
I moved to my current apt half for the street vendors. But they’ve been actively chased away nearly everyday since early June. My fruit consumption has nose-dived. all the chengguan do is sit on some stools, read the paper, roll up their pant legs and smoke cigarettes. roll up the worst qualities of a police officer, take away most of their power and that is the chengguan.
And that French ****** in Wuhan playing dress up as a chengguan is a tool. Hope he gets pelted with fruit and never comes back.
Dude, harsh business from the admins here.
Eh? What “harsh business”? And if a post has been left untouched, well, so much the better. Better to have things like that out in the open, I think. Every site will have its … and I think it’s better to leave them out there than to sweep them under the rug or out the door (there’s no reliable way to prevent someone from coming back short of a human flesh search followed by public shaming, and that’s like using a daisy-cutter to kill a mosquito, I think).
So we can say all kinds of racist sh*t about Chinese people here, but we can’t disagree with one of the favored posters?
We can. I can. I did. So?
Back to the topic.
Chengguan is something like communal police on the west. It is new concept for China and it will take some time to take required shape.
5 vs. 1 is always a bad thing. Whether or not paddler had a knife is irrelevant, as he was outnumbered. That’s why those chengguan were arrested. Peddler didn’t have a right to sell, but officer didn’t have a right to beat and cripple him. They made bigger damage for society than paddler did.
Poverty is harsh thing. You need to feed your family, to feed yourself. Selling a watermelon for this guy is minor thing compared to hunger of him and his family. Even in development countries, a good and honest people started to rob a banks just to provide food for their family.
I would sound as CCP member, but every society should find a balance between current situation and law. Sometimes, law enforcement can make negative effects. This chengguan’s crossed that fine line. Peddler made a “crime” worth a 500 kuai, but peddler suffered a life punishment. Cases like this will force chengguans to find a balance (harmony) between law enforcement and oppression. It took 150 years for western countries to find that balance, and we witnessed that often they aren’t able to maintain that balance.
MAYBE it took us 150 years but that’s probably only because noone sat us down and told us how things should be. Be my guest if you wanna spend 150 years of your own to step into the modern civilized world instead of learning from other people’s mistakes and successes. Classic 3rd world “You fucked up for a long time so we are entitled to fuck up for a long time too! waaaah”
You are the same person as Antwerpren. Many people disagree with Kai. I disagree with Kai many times. You cna disagree with Kai, but do not use different names to attack other people so other people think you are different people. Be more mature.
CHENGGUAN IS SO COOL THAT LAOWAI WANT TO BE IT
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http://news.creaders.net/headline/newsViewer.php?nid=398378&id=915492&dcid=11
I SUPPORT CHENGGUAN TO KEEP CHINA NICE LOOKING.
dude, you were faster than me.
that spanish guy was being mobbed in school
“mobbed??” Do you mean bullied?
China+power abuse=democracy
This is too bad, though it almost seems common in China, it happens everywhere that law enforcement is a bit over-zealous in dealing with individuals.
It should be noted on the whole that law enforcement is good, just a couple bad apples have made them look like an agency that can not be trusted.
Hopefully, law enforcement learns better ways of dealing with people, as well as removes the bad apples within their agency!
Is there a tool or script for Wordpress to block/ignore comments based on username? It’s such a drag scrolling through off-topic playground arguments… especially when they’re REALLY LONG (you know who you are).
Of course the guy bit them. If I was being beat to an inch of my life by 5 corrupt f*ckers, I would be biting too if thats all i had. I seriously doubt the guy ran up and bit the chengguan before they moved in. Its not exactly a “long range” attack. Defending yourself from 5 other people does not prove guilt (nor does it prove innocence).
Welcome to China…
Mr. Chengguan, your mom wants you to come home for lunch (and not ever leave).
This is real China . hahahaha..
Peddler broke the law and got his ass kicked = making conservative law abiding citizens happy
Chengguan abused power and are now themselves facing charges (in China this means they are definitely going to jail) = making everyone else happy
So what’s the problem here?
Problem is that guy does not deserve to be beaten. Anyway. while chengguan is a need, discipline of law enforcer is a must. Everyone is happy that the law enforcer is jailed, but what about the guy? it’s too late for him. His life is ruined just like that. What do you think if you are that guy?
Back to the point of the article. What happened to the Watermelons and what do the Chinese people think of the watermelons going to waste? Are their feelings hurt? Are they upset that Americans have taken all the good watermelons? Is Japan to blame? Did Rubiya’s children write letters condemning the Tibetan’s of stealing the watermelons? I guess I’ll have to read Xinhua for the truth!
HAHAHAHAHA, AWESOME!
These are the questions that really matter.
As government officer, how can he do that?