A young man in Hangzhou, China was hit and killed by a red Mitsubishi Evo sports car that was racing with two other expensive sports cars a few nights ago. Chinese netizens are outraged and afraid that the rich will be able to break the law and avoid trouble by using their money. The police statements after the accident have made Chinese people even more angry.
From NetEase:
According to Zhejiang Online’s May 8th report, on the 7th, several young people in Hangzhou City Wen Er West Road were street racing, and amongst them one red race car hit and killed a pedestrian crossing the crosswalk. Onlookers said the perpetrating boy’s attitude was very poor, hitting and killing a person yet treating it as if nothing happened. The perpetrator’s Mitsubishi sports car was labeled with two websites, and amongst the websites read “here gathers the country’s best drifting race car drivers”. A witnesses said, “A little after 8:00pm “rumble rumble rumble” came three cars, all very low very sports cars, going very fast very fast. The boy who was hit was crossing the crosswalk at the time, although at the time I did not see clearly if it was a boy or a girl. Upon being hit, his body flew into the air, flew very high very high, as high as that (Mr. Hu pointed to the Dejia Apartments front door/gate, the door/gate is over 5 meters high)! He flipped in the air, and then fell back down.” Onlooking pedestrians all indicated, 100 km/h? Up to 150km/h? Otherwise how could a person be hit so far? The report said the accident victim was from Hunan, born 1984, only son, graduated from Zhejiang University in 2006, and was working at Hangzhou Yisai Communications Limited Company, and prior to the incident had watched the movie “Nanjing! Nanjing! in the nearby cinema.
According to Hu X (the perpetrator) and related witnesses (the only witnesses the police have accepted were the other two sons of rich families who were racing) statements, the perpetrator’s car was only traveling around 70km/h when the incident happened, while the speed limit for the street where the incident happened is 50km/h (what a clever relation). Hu X admits that at the time he did not pay attention to what was happening on the crosswalk.
Did not modify the car, did not drive in the opposite direction, the speed accepted was that given by the perpetrator and his companions instead of those eyewitnesses who were present, also no scientific measurement (hitting a grown man up to 6 meters high, flying over 20 meters away, needs what kind of speed? Is there someone who is good at physics who can calculate or us?)
…then they say the victim was not using the crosswalk…
Hu Bin, the driver of the Mitsubishi Evo called his friends after hitting the victim, Tan Zhuo. Here is a picture after the accident that has angered many netizens:
This is Hu Bin later covering his face inside a police car:
Here is a video of the police press conference that many Chinese netizens feel was a joke and that the police were trying to defend or help the perpetrator.
Many Hangzhou journalists and reporters were also very daring to question the police’s statements. Schoolmates from Zhejiang University also wrote a letter to the Hangzhou mayor. Many Hangzhou residents also complained that street racing has become a major problem in Hangzhou.
Comments from Mop:
鲁有才:
It has already been said, he is a rich family’s kid.
At most this matter will only involve a fine.
沉默的？？？:
Perpetrator’s name: Hu Bin
Perpetrator’s identity: Hangzhou Normal University Department of Sports sophomore, Hangzhou Jianggan District Identification: 330104198901202333
Mobile Phone: 13634162820
QQ: 181199732
Live Space Password: 608Zo
Car Model: EVO 9th generation
Car License Plate: 浙A.608Z0 [Zhejiang]
Car Owner: Liu HongyingCar Owner: Liu Hongying (Perpetrator driver’s mother)
Address: Pujiaxincun Building 29 Unit 2 Room 501
Mobile Phone: 139581118382
Home Telephone: 85721339
Identification Number: 3301041989012023333
Mobile Phone Number: 13634162820Perpetrator owner’s father Hu Shuming
Occupation: Garment industry
Car: Jeep Wrangler
Registration/License: A290P8
Address: Pujiaxincun Building 29 Unit 2 Room 5th Floor
流精岁月:
Ding this up, ding this to the central government, see if “money rights” can cover up the people’s anger!!! See how his rich parents are going to resolve this for their son!!
Ding this up, ding this to the central government, see if “money rights” can cover up the people’s anger!!! See how his rich parents are going to resolve this for their son!!
Ding this up, ding this to the central government, see if “money rights” can cover up the people’s anger!!! See how his rich parents are going to resolve this for their son!!
Ding this up, ding this to the central government, see if “money rights” can cover up the people’s anger!!! See how his rich parents are going to resolve this for their son!!
Ding this up, ding this to the central government, see if “money rights” can cover up the people’s anger!!! See how his rich parents are going to resolve this for their son!!
Ding this up, ding this to the central government, see if “money rights” can cover up the people’s anger!!! See how his rich parents are going to resolve this for their son!!
Ding this up, ding this to the central government, see if “money rights” can cover up the people’s anger!!! See how his rich parents are going to resolve this for their son!!
太帅整天被人追着砍:
Living in China, I better be even more careful than careful~~~
“If the perpetrator is not heavily punished, not executed.
Marching protest~marching protest~marching protest~marching
protest~marching protest~marching protest~marching marching protest~
protest~marching protest~marching protest~marching protest~marching
protest~marching protest~marching protest~marching protest~
marching protest~marching protest~
Who dares? Who will join? I simply do not believe they
will flatten us like 6.4!!
If you have the courage, harmonize me~”
mp.chou:
Sympathy
!
Sigh, being able to use money to fix problems is a problem!!!This to them is just a
small case
fcbillking:
I saw the news. This kind of people, they are all beasts/animals, all deserve execution. The person who was killed, anyhow was a Zhejiang University talent, such a waste, losing a person who could have contributed to the country.
songcatcher:
70km/h car speed, able to knock a person 5 meters high, throwing him over 20 meters far?
Hangzhou’s JC again insult the people’s intelligence!!! The perpetrator indeed has people in high places.
-照脸一板砖-:
Qie,
Simply spending some money can fix this,
in China, the thing that is worth the least is human life. [said in disgust]
renjiaqi1114:
Inhuman! Doing such an unimaginable thing! Driving that fast within the city, with so much traffic there! Without looking at the incident itself, he should be sentenced to 10 years just for him calling people to come take responsibility! Why didn’t he quickly try to save the person? The hospital was right next to them, and instead the people he called were all his dubious friends and trash, even bringing his girlfriend as if they were coming to watch a show, human dregs society’s scum!
次仁佐:
Good car…too bad the person driving is trash…
Comments from KDS (no longer available):
wangjunyxq:
He can like anything but he chooses to like something that plays with lives.
benty:
When I was watching it I already felt the police were the defendant’s lawyers, what they were saying was too harmonious.
♂小狮子♀:
Does this bunch of stupid cunts have any brains? Their mouths hanging just one phrase: We still need to do more investigation. Then, you motherfuckers, what have you already figured out in your investigations?
The only thing they investigated was: Perpetrator’s companion said the perpetrator was driving around 70km/hr, that’s it.
淫王:
It was the victim who was crossing the crosswalk too fast…the other person’s EVO was only 70km/h…he definitely was walking too fast.
烤小猴子:
Everyone do not be inharmonious ["non- 'river crab'"], you must trust that the party and government will handle this properly, do not be exploited by internet spies with ulterior motives, and more importantly do not arbitrarily go for a stroll [protest march]. Maintaining stability is the most important thing right now. Should the country become chaotic, U.S. imperialism will rush in and massacre us Chinese people!!!
横肉:
The “wu mao” are not working today, I will speak a few words for them:
Everyone be content, in China there are still people who will take care of things. If it were in America, the FBI would have long ago silenced/killed the victim’s entire family.
晴天老母猪:
In the moment of hitting, the earth immediately lost gravity so the culprit is the earth.
joe:
Looks like this time this son of a rich family completely failed to reach his normal level.
[The above are the two previous traffic violation records. The circled 210 means the driver was caught driving 210km/h in a 120km/h zone. Witnesses said he was driving over 100 km/h, so the above commenter is joking that the driver had not reached his normal speed (200+).]
Yann:
Zhejiang University Communications major…really…such a good school studying such a difficult major…and getting killed by a low-life…what a shame.
Solaris:
It is China who needs Batman and Ironman.
SHN:
The public letter is truly ridiculous, paying a new year call to a prostitute [appealing to someone who will not help you], better do a good job organizing the self-defense force to prepare for a big showdown on June 4th.
直来直往:
This car accident news already caused a big uproar on the internet, I estimate tens of millions of people are watching how this will be handled.
Those several CT [counter-terrorists = police] do not have anyone above them, this ass-wiping life, no one wants to take responsibility for this case, no one wants to face the reporters.
benny8363:
After being human flesh searched, he definitely must go in [to prison], to prevent him being beaten to death by the common people.
After awhile when the sound of the wind has died down he will be released.The above content was completely copy and pasted, I personally bear no responibility whatsoever.
There are some translated Tianya BBS comments at Global Voices.
Here is a video where former radio personality Wan Feng who is famous for his “angry” personality expresses his outrage about this incident and the driver:
There are many BBS forum topics about this news. On Mop, the first 7 topics on the home page are all about this. Many angry netizens do not trust that there will be justice and think the rich He Bin will be able to use money to avoid a real punishment. The human flesh search has found a lot of information about many of the people involved. In addition to the information in a comment above, netizens found the driver Hu Bin’s Xiaonei profile, which feature a picture of his car. His girlfriend’s blog has also been found and she wrote that she believes someone, probably a high Hangzhou official, will help them.
They found many pictures of Hu Bin:
And his father:
There were also picture of the victim, Tan Zhuo:
Netizens also proved that Hu Bin and the police were lying about his car not being modified:
Some netizens on KDS have said that the reason the driver, his friends, and the police are saying 70km/h is because the punishment for speeding is different depending on how much higher than the speed limit the violator was driving.
On May 8, there was a candlelight vigil for the victim Tan Zhuo that included many people who were related or close to him:
A picture of the victim at funeral:
More information at 70km.org (Chinese) and EastSouthWestNorth (English).
Many netizens are hoping that public pressure will make sure that there will be justice.
UPDATE:
A netizen on Mop accused China search engine Baidu of censoring search results again (like last time during the Sanlu Kidney Stone Gate). The first two pictures below was the netizen’s comparison between Baidu and Google. The third picture was another netizen who said the netizen used a O instead of a 0 (zero), and using a zero has more results. The netizen was then accused of being a Google employee.
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I really don’t know what to make of “human flesh search engines” …
there’s something terrifying about such mob mentalities (see the hunting of Chinese overseas students around the time of the Tibetan riots last year)
but at the same time it’s the only recourse that the average citizen has in a society with no independent judiciary.
Both awesome (in the non-American sense) and terrfifying. A symptom of a very sick (harmonious) society.
This story is gonna be gone everywhere very soon. One week, we won’t hear a thing. Harmony before justice.
How the hell did they get so much info on the driver?
The Internet knows all!!!
A lot of people on these social networking sites don’t lock their content from other users. On Xiaonei and kaixin001 for example, users post many pictures and personal information available to all. So in a situation like this, the human flesh search is so easy to do.
I guess if the police won’t do anything, you bet the angry netizens and the dead boy’s parents will.
How much to hire a hit man in China these days? Anybody know?
Hard to say, at this time everything is speculation. The Harbin police-student death was drummed up as rich student killed by police officers, but it turned out the student wasn’t rich at all and police weren’t really police but railway security guards.
As usual, a lot of initial bluff and bluster on the internet from Chinese netizens. And as usual, they’ll forget about the whole thing within weeks.
Sadly, I have to agree. I imagine none of these guys would notice if the police said, “We’re going to imprison him for 10 years.” and then let him out the next day.
Wow, what a beast of a post.
If the reports are accurate, I too think the Evo driver’s behavior is utterly reprehensible and worthy of a lot of ass-kicking. However, tempting though it may be, I have to say I’m not for him getting executed for what is ultimately manslaughter. He didn’t intend to kill the guy, he was just a royal ass with enough family money to afford more car than brains. The jackass deserves a very harsh punishment (that is carried out in full instead of being secretly commuted later through money or connections), but death isn’t one of them. Castration might be acceptable though. ;)
Very interesting that the Chinese netizens human fleshed so much out. I guess it wasn’t too hard given enough identifying leads in the pictures and reports. Take a few things and do enough Googling/Baiduing and you can uncover a decent amount of stuff. I’m wondering if Hangzhou’s real-name registration system (where netizens must use their real names when going online) might have helped.
Like many, I’m a bit cynical about how this is going to play out. I do think there’s a good chance the public pressure will last long enough for the police/government to actually do something that appeases the masses thirst for justice but, like what one of the netizens above voiced, it’s hard to know whether or not it’ll stick once masses thin they’ve won, public attention turns to something else, and the commotion dies down.
Some of the reports I’ve seen for this have a lot of Hangzhou residents trying to turn this into an anti-car-modding crusade, as if modifying cars automatically results in street racing or other reckless driving that endangers the public. As a car enthusiast myself, I’m a bit sensitive to that kind of thinking, but I do understand how its easy to infer a connection between the two. I prefer, however, that the blame not be placed on car modifications but on the real culprit: irresponsible, even arrogant, drivers.
Another major overtone to this story that I think this post missed pointing out is how this has rapidly become something of a proxy battle of the masses against “the rich” that are seen as often behaving entirely above the law, using their money to buy their way out of the consequences of their actions. This is actually a very important theme to both many of the human flesh search phenomenon on the internet and general friction within modern Chinese society.
The netizens, and many Chinese in general, are seriously PISSED that this is looking like another episode where the rich “get away with murder” and even the police, whom are expected to enforce the law, seem to be helping them. Add in a general lack of faith in a judiciary that is ultimately controlled by the government, and you have a lot of really angry people.
Even then, it’s hard to say what real change/progress this anger will yield. In many ways, China IS getting better, but for many including the Chinese themselves, it just isn’t getting better fast enough.
“…have a lot of Hangzhou residents trying to turn this into an anti-car-modding crusade”
There is a lot of car racing on that road. My wife’s family live all up and down there and say it has gotten pretty bad lately. My sister-in-law even saw this specific accident. She didn’t know what had happened but heard the cars racing and saw the crowd gathering after the crash. I told her I read about it on Chinasmack so me, in the U.S., ended up telling her, who actually saw it, about the details of what happened… score 1 for the interwebs.
haha Hangzhou is the racing capital of China after Shenzhen. I remember racing with a group of friends at 300km/h in Porsche Carrera.
Enjoy the lack of rule of law in china the best u can until they change.
Because of OJ Simpson’s money, he was able to get away with murder. I wouldn’t be surprised that this rich kid can probably get away with paying a big fine and a slap on the wrist.
OJ got away with it by being able to afford a very good attorneys and by having the public prosecutors make a few key mistakes. Unfair? Maybe. However he was brought before court and got off because he convinced the jury there was reasonable doubt. In the end the victims family brought a devastating damages case against him.
or so you’re told
And of course, that armed robbery case where the book was thrown at him because they then had a solid case.
What a tragic story. But this is really a great post for ChinaSmack in terms of quality. I hope that due to public pressure, some sort of justice will be served.
What do all the commenters mean when they say “downloading downloading”? Are they downloading the pictures/info in case it is later erased?
It’s probably some emoticon that isn’t loading because its hotlinked.
R.I.P.
I’m wondering how one commenter got the driver’s MSN space password?!! Yet another Microsoft compromise?
Since another commenter required a calculation, here’s one:
The trajectory of the victim’s body is a parabola (neglecting air friction). Assume that he’s hit up to 6 meters and 15 meters before hitting ground (and rolled for 5 meters further). Damage was absorbed by car (energy taken by windshield and bumper) and victim (energy taken in fractures etc) equally and the car’s speed was reduced suddenly by 20%.
Based on above assumption, a simply calculation (script attached) shows that car’s speed at the moment of hitting was about 55.2 miles per hour or 89 kilometers per hour.
=== Python script ===
#! /usr/bin/env python
import math
g=9.8
dy=6
dx=15
c_inelastic=0.5
v_reduced=0.2
t=(2*dy/g)**.5
vx=dx/t
vy=g*t
vman=(vx**2+vy**2)**.5
theta=math.atan(vy/vx)
vcar=vman/math.cos(theta)/c_inelastic/(1+1-v_reduced)
print “Speed of car @ hitting = %f mph or %f km/h” % (vcar*2.2369, vcar*3.6)
Traffic surveillance camera video has been released (@0:35 of the video):
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XOTAwOTg0NjQ=.html
It doesn’t look like the victim’s body “flew into the air, flew very high very high”. The car wasn’t much faster than other cars in the video and it seems that the victim was not passing the road safely (he’s probably not walking on crosswalk and not aware of traffic lights).
Now I’m more worried about the identity theft in this case. The driver’s ID number (something like SSN), address even blog password can be so easily compromised, who knows if my own information is still safe or not. Number of victims in this car accident? one. Number of victims in identity theft? millions?
That’s scary!
Looking at the traffic surveillance video you refer to in the link, I don’t think we can make a judgment about how high the body may have flown. It was very dark, grainy, and happened very fast. I actually think the car seemed to move very fast relative to traffic on both directions and I’m even wondering if the car in front was one of his friends (maybe the Ferrari he was racing with) because that one seemed to be going pretty fast too. What the video does show is his car coming to a quick stop after the sidewalk, and a body appearing on the ground. I don’t think anything in the video suggests the victim wasn’t in the crosswalk given how close the crosswalk is visibly in the video.
I’m wondering if the password was simply guessed. It isn’t unheard of, and using the license plate number of a car guy is a reasonable guess. Shrug.
Right. That’s why I used phrases “probably”, “look like” and “seem”. Above were just my “observations”, possibly miles away from facts.
OK, USTCer… I cannot resist this sort of thing… here is the same thing in the language I use most often (but let me confess… the python is cleaner and easier to understand… I really have to learn that language. Look at all the $ and pow() littering the script, ugh ):
=== PHP Script ===
$g=9.8;
$dy=6;
$dx=15;
$c_inelastic=0.5;
$v_reduced=0.2;
$t=pow(2*$dy/$g, .5);
$vx = $dx/$t;
$vy = $g*$t;
$vman = pow(pow($vx,2)+pow($vy,2),.5);
$theta = atan($vy/$vx);
$vcar = $vman/(cos($theta))/$c_inelastic/(1+1-$v_reduced);
echo $vcar.”;
echo sprintf(“Speed of car @ hitting = %f mph or %f km/h”, $vcar*2.2369, $vcar*3.6);
I used to get a PHP/MySQL programming job offer from an electronics company in Shanghai in my junior year of college (but I finally declined it and came to US for a Ph.D. degree). I learnt BASIC in elementary school, used C/C++ frequently since middle school, Matlab+Mathematica+assembly in college and my daily working languages now are FORTRAN and Python. Python is purely AWESOME and I loved it since the first line of Python code flowed out from my fingertips.
PHP is fine. The king of ugliness is Perl for no doubt. My wife used to use Perl a lot for DNA sequence analysis in a microarray lab so I got the hatred of it even before I knew the language itself :)
Don’t get me started on Perl… ugh. The first language I was exposed to was Basic and I loved it (I was also a little kid) and I even took a college Fortran class as a middle school kid (yikes… I had no clue what was going on in that class). Perl just made my brain hurt so I ended up a self-taught web programmer using PHP/MySQL (just like that job you turned down)… I wish I had studied programming in college as I think it would have made my foundation stronger. I also wish my knowldeg of mathmatics were better but hey, I was a Fine Arts major in college.. lol. I can write a mean deconstruction on the meaning hidden in a number of obscure Roman sculptures, lol.
I got 86.4km/h without programing. Just basic physic. I took data provided from animation and time from cctv. Car drove 4 its length max (4*4,5m) and it took less than 3 sec to stop. I think that speed was about 100km/h as we must to take time of driver reaction (about half a second).
Anyway, we talked about “Traffic Darwinism” few times here. Irresponsible drivers are everywhere. The more powerful car is, the more irresponsible driver is. We can calculate irresponsibility as horse_power * year_salary / age.
Dude, you guys (USTCer, ST, krdr) are awesome. I’m not suggesting that your formulas are appropriate or correct, but I just think its awesome that you guys are bringing to this news what you know.
Yes, someone could find this inappropriate (me to). Speed of car is one of main evidences used to weight degree of crime and proper punishment.
CV’s are not.
Except calculation of speed, I cannot add anything more to this discussion. Everything else is already written.
Interesting thing is that a month or so on Chinasmack there was video of high speed racing through Shanghai. More than half the comments said “Great car, I’d go fast too. What good is a car like that if you go slow?”
Wow. I have to point this out because China is such a vast place but this accident happened directly in front of the apartment where we live in Hangzhou. You can almost see our window in the photo of the car at the top of the post! I have walked through the gate and the crossing where this happened hundreds of time (with my 2 little kids)… that is freaky. I saw the Wen Er Xi street name and thought, wow, what a coincidence, then I saw Dejia mentioned and that freaked me out a bit. I’m in the U.S. right now but will be there on Wednesday… out of all the places in China this could have happened, and out of all of the millions of places in Hangzhou alone, that this happened essentially on my front door is bizarre.
Poor guy getting hit like that… I hope the driver spends a long time in prison. That road has very broad, straight streets (it was farmland just 15 years ago so it is one of the new, modern parts of town). There are also a lot of rich people in that area so there are plenty of ridiculously expensive sports cars roaring down the street. This scares me though, hitting so close to home and crossing right there all the time with my kids. Ugh.
Gotta be careful, karma’s sending you a message!
Wow. Good luck to you, and to me too! I will go back to China in ten days and hope they will not offer me a week-long quarantine right after I step into the terminal 3.
Yeah, I leave in 24 hours and I see that the authorities are pretty worked up right now… hopefully it will go smooth and by the time you head over hopefully it will have died down a bit. I may end up with a free week long vacation in a 3-star hotel. Oh well, as long as I have high speed internet I can still work… maybe I could blog about it! That would be a cool way to spend a quarantine.
Wow, that’s freaky. You could’ve been the chinaSMACK field correspondent for this one had you been in China at the time! LoL!
If there are broad, straight streets and the guys were ‘racing’ down the broad straight street, why would the victim choose to walk out infront of the vehicles which are clearly in view? Quite frankly, he was extremely irresponsible should he walk off of the sidewalk into the street when cars are zipping along, being a driver, I can attest to the idiocy of many people here who ‘butt out’ from sidewalks and crossings into traffic, even visible during red lights if they’re waiting…or off of the sidewalk at bus stops jutting out into traffic lanes. What do they think the result will be?
I’m not saying the driver isn’t at fault, am just saying there’s more to it than pointing fingers only at him should the situation be that the guy crossed without much warning at a non-pedestrian crossing. There’s not enough information here to really make a sound judgement.
I suppose, without really having been there, it does sound irresponsible and in that area I do always cross at the lights but I know that right where that happened there is a crossing that has no traffic light. I mean, they have the markings on the street but it is halfway down the block, equidistant from two lights. He may well have been using that crossing. Also, it’s China! People will cross at the craziest, most dangerous places like it is nothing.
I know, and that’s my point – everyone crosses anywhere expecting to ‘negotiate’ around cars as they calculate speed of vehicles and such, and usually it works out. Unfortunately sometimes it doesn’t. My point was that the fault here is not only the driver’s fault, but also the arrogance/ignorance of the pedestrian. Unfortunately he’s dead. It should still be taken into consideration when lighting up the torches and gathering pitchforks for the driver..as apparently so many angry netizens seem to want to do.
What a tragic loss for the victim who was probably going home after work. Pedestrian crossings are meant for motor vehicles to give way to pedestrians.
As a minimum penalty, perpetrator’s car should be impounded and crush for scrap metal. Loss of licence and criminal and reckless driving stamped on his driving record.
I remember the comments from the “netizens” a month ago vividly. So many people praising cars and the driving in the street racing videos. I wrote something about how dangerous it was and I guess it goes to show how Chinese people can be a little shortsighted sometimes. I just don’t get why someone can watch a video of cars going 200 km/h within city limits and not figure out that eventually people will get killed. I also hope this guy will get a punishment he deserves but sadly in these cases there is no intent to kill and it’s hard to hand out 20 years in prison just for being young and stupid. I know,, it won’t make anyone and especially the people who know the victim feel any better. Those are truly fucked up situations.
one word,caltrops.
LOL, guys, if you’re like me, a vein is going to burst reading this interesting translation from Roland Soong over at ESWN (a new and different from the one linked in the post by Fauna). Here’s a sample:
There are a lot of utilitarian themes invoked in the suggestion given, and some of it reads a lot like the random 50 cent party satires that get thrown around by sardonic netizens every so often (I think there was one in the translated comments of this post too). Nonetheless, it pretty much boils down to: “Yes, it sucks the victim died, no one is saying it doesn’t or that him dying is not some kind of loss, but it happened and we can’t change that. Moving forward, let’s go easy on the rich kid’s family so him and his family can continue doing what they do that benefits the nation.”
More recockulousness express. Go check it out. Then come back and share your incredulity with me here. LoL.
Holy moley.
It reminds me a bit of the expert who was wheeled out by the media after a particularly bad mining accident a few years back and consoled the families with the basic message “well, that’s the price of prosperity, and it’s a price I’m willing to pay”.
Shut Up! BE HAPPY! All this is really for you!
Saw this too, one of those opinions where after reading you wish you hadn’t because you just exposed yourself to something inconceivably inhumane. I honestly cannot believe that there are people who think like this, but there you go…
Is this the so-called “Chinese political model” many laud over here? One where the value of human life is only judged by its basic economic worth? Honestly astounded, but also realize that this isn’t the mainstream view, if it was you wouldn’t have that moving vigil for the deceased.
I am pretty sure that was a satire. Nobody can actually try to appeal to the public using such horrible arguments.
Yeah, I was wondering that too, which is why I suggested it sounded like those random 50 cent satires, but sometimes…
On the last thursday 7th evening around 7pm I walked with my wife and our baby, it was in Wen Hui Road.We heard a really big engine noise, I saw 2 of those racing cars, I’m sure they drove more than 150 Km/H in this street and slalom between the other cars…I told my wife they’ll have an accident soon !!!
I’m really really sad for this young boy, I give all my deepest sympathy and condolences to his Parents and relatives.I really hope, the Chinese gouvernment will strongly punish this crazy guy and don’t let him drive again, he have to pay from his person for this terrible thing.The money can’t repair that…It’s time to do something now or other cases will happen soon..
The Fast & Furious comes back. If nobody had been killed but the race posted as a topic, history tells us the comments would mostly be about the skill, daring, and adventure of the street racer. Now with a death it is clear that there is no skill, daring, or adventure. It is a person doing something in a public place that endangers the life of others. Let’s see on the next cycle of cool car drifter posting, although again history tells us there will be no change because it is ‘so cool’.
Doesn’t matter what country, the law is a reflection of how much you can pay whether it be in influence or legal fees.
Nobody noticed it was a Japanese car too? Jesus these fenqing r losin it.
Anyhow alot/ most poor farmers from Henan and so on would consider losing a child in a no-contest road kill to a rich familly, a blessing. They will make costs plus bank.
WTF! Nobody would consider it a blessing. What are you basing such a claim off of?
Love how Fast and furious is one of the few movies the goverment approves for show in China.
1.Item number 3 is standard. NOT aftermarket. However, the car is lowered.
2. The rich kid is a jackass but is not representative of all car owners or fans of modded cars.
3. Stop, Look , Listen, before you cross the street, use your eyes, use your ears…before you use your feet.
Seriously?
I am a careful street crosser, esp. in China, but I used to live in HZ, and remember one night in particular when I waited on the curb for my green pedestrian signal and a red light for the cross traffic. What do I get for waiting? A car taking advantage of the lack of “traffic” apparently and coming out of nowhere (I look both ways when I cross, thanks) and nearly missing me only when I jumped out of the way. Some drivers need to go back to driving school. Or get some manners. Or realize that traffic signals exist for a reason… UGH! Seriously feel awful for this kid.
Mob justice turns criminal cases into release valves for the public, it uses stereotypes, jumps to conclusions, feed off rumor and calls for anger and hatred.
Yet, since the government doesn’t do its job, who can blame them, or be say this is entirely wrong?
Also, can anyone tell me what this means?
“Who dares? Who will join? I simply do not believe they
will flatten us like 6.4!!”
Referring to the Tiananmen massacre in 1989 (think Tank Man) where the government squashed a student rebellion with strong force.
6-4 = Sky Peace Door, you know the big plaza in downtown Beijing? 20 years ago?
This guy is courageous.
Ding.
it’s not that courageous, you’ll be surprised at how often this topic is discuss in non-stand on a soap box type setting. (However, western media is one gigantic soap box)
I don’t know, first lot’s of people don’t really know what happened then, and there’s no movie about it, you can’t talk about it on TV, my feeling is that it’s still taboo and “dangerous” to talk about 6-4. Am i so far from reality?
Makes one long for those bad old Maoist days, when they sent revisionist roaders down to the countryside for hard labour and re-education. Just what rich brats like this need.
Let them be punished severely by the law. This is the only way justice and social order can be brought to China. The attitude of the police had resulted in today’s state of unbereable social order. The attutide of the rich and their sons is partly due to the incompetence and corrupt police and officials. This must change else there will be no tomorrow for China !!! Failing which, more and more ordinary citizens will go to the streets to seek justice and social order by themselves.
This happened round the corner from my apartment in Hangzhou about 10 minutes after I had just gone past the place. We heard the police sirens and wondered what had happened. Now the whole city is going on about the story and the govt has demanded that the driver be punished ‘appropriately’. If it had happened out of town somewhere, rather than on a street where all the middle to richer classes live, we would never have heard anything about it though.
I just read this off of ESNW!
“The deceased Mr. Tan came from the backwards Hunan province and he is looking forward to get married. Therefore, he must be economically stressed. When he saw these luxury cars come and go, he must get lots of ideas. At a minimum, he must have been distracted when he crossed the street because he had plenty on his mind. Therefore, the incident occurred. This is a tragedy. Apart from Mr. Tan, the driver Mr. Hu is a victim too. When a young person such as him encounters such an incident, he is bound to suffer mentally. We know indirectly that Mr. Hu comes from a family of well-known Hangzhou entrepreneurs. His father is a patriotic entrepreneur and a very likeable person. The impact of this incident on the Hu family is far more significant than that on the Tan family. The dead has departed, so we should be more considerate about the living.”
Wow, just wow!!!
I am glad that netizens are doing something when the authorities are not.
wtf?!?!?!??!?!?!
that’s disgraceful omg
Must be fake. Or it’s a good way to push people into complete riot.
Every thing can happen in this supernatural country!(from Chinese netizen)
The driver and his friends suffer from tiny penis syndrome, why else would he be showing off in a town center?
Also, the above calculations about the car’s speed, don’t stand up as it depends on what area/percentage of the victim’s body hit the car.
Good to see the netizens using their flesh engine for positive change!
what positive change? Till now, its still just words.. that is all netizens can do..the authority knows it and will continue to do what they do best.. censorship
netizens can expressed all their anger they want in the internet, in a week or two, everything will be back to normal, unjustice will continue to rule, rich people will continue to get away with crime..
Maybe it’s because Chinese lack personal responsibility?
But to have responsibility you have to have to be free to make your own mistakes and learn from them.
Here students learn to be responsible for themselves and others. (Now available with Chinese Subtitles)
http://dotsub.com/view/cfb1d99c-0110-4644-9629-5b533142244b
Has nothing to do with “Chinese” lacking responsibility, this kinda stuff happens all over the place.
Rich young punks driving recklessly and getting away with murder because they have influential families. This kinda stuff happens in India too. There’s no excuse for it.
Automatically judging people based on a tiny amount of fact and a lot of speculation, criminalizing and inciting pitch-fork and torch riots against social groups or demographics other than that which you belong to…this happens in India too. Most countries, in fact – because people are ignorant beasts who generally jump to blame and point fingers before doing any investigation or waiting for truthes to reveal themselves.
This spoilt brat deserve to be charged under the most severe crime in China. How can someone with a sane mind be speeding on such a busy street ? He and his family deserve all these.
Equally is the attitude of the brainless police who believe they can hood wink the general public. It is due to their incompetence and corrupt attitude that 2 young man got into trouble. The Hangzhou police deserve to be punished equally for their incompetence and corrupt behaviour. Lying in broad day light, thinking that they can get away by bull shitting all the way is so common in the Chinese Police force.
The continued lying and not coming clean in the open by government officials in all the recent cases is not bidding well for the government in general. The continued lies, tampering of evidence, abetting and corruption by officals will only lead to the people taking the law into their own hands. A very typical case is the forming of investigation committes. In this case the same was also suggested. This goes to show how much trust and believe the people have in the government officers.
Such situations if allowed to continue, uprising of the people will eventually prevail.
Does the government want to see a repeat of the down fall of the previous regime(s) in China ? I think the signals are already in the air and it is just a matter of time if left to deteriorate.
i dont get it. the poor elite boy was trying to became the next F1 pilot until some dumb loser commitet suicide by springing into the way of the car.
you people have no chame.
The “future F1 pilot” came from a low family who just happened to have a lot of money. Therefore they couldn’t teach him anything but instead give him a car (his murder weapon).
“you people have no chame” – learn to spell correctly before criticizing and making yourself look even more stupid and ignorant.
孤陋寡闻
this is so jacked
The driver was charged with vehicular manslaughter (which is probably what he would have been charged with had this accident happened in the US) a few days ago. I understand that it carries a maximum sentence of 3 years.
Assuming there has been no revelations in what happened, I think that’s a fair charge.
It has been reported that the victim’s family have been compensated to the tune of 1 million RMB and that police are looking to convict this young hooligan.
I’d suggest that a prison sentence would be detremental. The courts should hand down a life-long ban on this boy from driving and from sitting in the front passenger seat of any vehicle. That’ll really hurt him.
This scrawny little rich guy , should be put in a prison full of big horny men who can play with him , and then he can realise his stupidity and that no family status or anything can pay for human life.
Just because China has 1.3 billion people doesn’t mean life is cheap!! There has to be some accountability in this country. If China wants respect from other nations, it’s time China respect itself and it’s own people.
To the idiot who drives his Bright Yellow Boxter down Donghai road in Qingdao regularly at 150 km/hr. Look forward to seeing you in similar post, tool!
This story made it to the Wall Street Journal today (Sept 22, 2009). See link: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125357000531429127.html#mod=WSJ_hpp_RIGHTTopCarousel
http://tinyurl.com/l243yw
My thoughts go out to the victim’s friends and family.
Beat me to it, Paul! :-)
This could happen anywhere but the law breakers must be punished.