Last week, there was a controversy about some comments a Zhejiang University professor made about Chinese girls who are willing to date foreign men:
The education system should help China have self-respect. However, these days when we see foreigners, we lower our heads. When girls see foreign trash or average foreign men, they all want to please them [become friends, attract]. Comrades, what lack of dignity we have in front of foreigners. Amongst those studying abroad at Japan’s Tokyo University, I was the only one who returned [to China], yet the Japanese people held me in high regard because I have soul/spirit and live with integrity.
When a netizen named “Zhejiang University Girl” responded and criticized Professor Zheng Qiang, the controversy became a very hot topic on many Chinese BBS forums. Many overseas Chinese also heard about the story through oversease Chinese media. “Zhejiang University Girl” explained in her reply why the best Chinese girls seek foreign men instead of Chinese men. She talked about many things, but most people will probably only remember penis sizes and orgasms.
Here are some of the Chinese BBS topics about “Zhejiang University Girl”:
- Mop (April 8): “University Schoolgirl Wildly Criticizes Zhejiang University Famous Professor — Zheng Qiang”
- Tianya (April 10): “Fucked by Black People ‘Zhejiang University Girl’ Wildly Criticizes Famous Zhejiang University Professor”
- NetEase (April 11): “Time For China’s Men To Speak — Discuss Zhejiang University Girl’s Unwillingness to Marry Chinese Men”
I was too sick to translate her response when I saw this last week, so here are some parts from the translation that ChinaGeeks posted on April 13:
At Zhejiang University, there are many girls who, like me, are dating foreigners. I’m young and beautiful, witch excellent grades, and many people pursue me, but I’m dissatisfied with Chinese men. Please tell me, is that not conducting myself with dignity? Loving whom we choose, is this wrong?
One of the most beloved professors at Zhejiang University suddenly said in the middle of a formal speech, “[Our] school has some girls who aren’t conducting themselves with dignity, as soon as they see a garbage, ordinary foreigner they want to be with them.” This sentence directly attacks me, and inconveniences me as those garbage, ordinary Chinese men are now attacking us because of this, and even going after my parents. Today I must post this challenge of authority to scold you.
Because of your speech, men curse and disturb me, saying, is it because the laowai can give you an orgasm more easily?
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At other schools I don’t know, but at Zhejiang University all the beautiful, excellent girls are taken by foreigners. First class girls are all sleeping in villas, second class girls are sleeping in hotels and flats, only third class girls can accompany these wretched looking Chinese guys in their tiny dormitory beds, and facing a roommate, fool around a bit. If they’re not ashamed, I’m ashamed for them. Walking on the roads of our school you can tell, you won’t see even a single beautiful girl, the mighty pile of leftovers like half-cooked things, however you look at them they’re like un-evolved dinosaurs.
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Don’t talk about loving my country, my country doesn’t love me, I love its ass.
You say Zhejiang University still has some good, studious Chinese men, yes! They have no standards, some of my female classmates boyfriends dump them as soon as they get into American schools, the tragic result of four years of washing clothes, paying out of pocket, sleeping [with the guys], that’s what’s really low! [...] And as soon as they can go abroad they think their dicks are longer, long like a giraffe, their heads lifted, blindly looking forward to marrying whatever wealthy American maiden they can find who will hold their hands and lead them into elite society. They’re dreaming, of their darling America dancing ballet, [but] when you go abroad a toothpick is still a toothpick. Even filling a condom is a miracle, and they feel they’re really something. So, I’d rather marry an African-American and get a green card! Marrying an African-American is the same on the spiritual side, and on the physical side the orgasms are real. So marrying a black American is the result of us conducting ourselves with dignity.
Her post incited many comments from Chinese netizens.
Comments from Mop:
江山如此多娇:
This girl criticizing this viciously, writing this much, but the main content is still: Sexual needs. It is fine as long as everyone understands [this]. Using other reasons, we would think she is rather niubi and bullshitting. She is just human, so using such a reason only proves further that she is a lowly woman.
zhoukaijs2:
Point of View One: First, this girl’s B [bi = 屄, vagina, pussy, cunt] is more satisfied being fucked by black people, so she has discarded the rest and chosen to remain under black JJ. She also hopes that she will be even more satisfied being fucked by other foriegners when she goes abroad!
Pointof View Two: This girl believes that because a portion of Zhejiang University boys do not like to study so they pick up girls, play games, and play basketball, she too can indulge YD [yin dang = 淫荡, in being lewd], at least she has orgasmed! Next, even if she found a boy who likes to study, that JJ is still only a toothpick, so to summarize, having her B fucked by foreigners is still better!!
919000689:
Seems like there is some truth to it.
zhuybhawk:
Only maybe after you have gone abroad will you think of how good Chinese men are. You are just fucking lowly/cheap. Those foreigners who come to China to fool around/waste time are all fucking trash, yet you fucking treat them like treasure. You bunch of lowly people simply do not have enough self-respect.
Learn well.
冷心503:
LZ, you are from Zhejiang University? How embarrassing, how did Zhejiang University produce garbage like you? In the future when you go out, please do not say you graduated from Zhejiang University, ruining our reputation!
被夏天吹来吹去的风:
Although I really want to slap you, what you say actually makes a lot of sense…
古道西风遛狗:
Within every person’s way of thinking is a portion of truth…
The reality of China’s society indeed appears to be very frustrating. In college, how many boys are wasting their time…I myself can be counted as one of them. Replying to this topic right now also counts.
So let’s be a little lenient.
乱射阴雄:
This woman is begging to be told off. Your parents working so hard to raise you and provide for you to go to university was just for you to be fucked by foreign black people? Keep on cumming every day then. I think you should be taken to Japan, so you can be stuffed full of cum all day, fucked in the ass all day, so you can orgasm 24 hours a day! It is because universities these days have your kind of trash that university students are misunderstood as having poor characters. You lose face for female university students. Having attended four years of college the only thing you have trained is your lowly/cheap cunt. The rest you have not learned! I truly feel embarrassed for your parents, having given birth to you! Fuck.
seven2231:
Is this what a Zhejiang University student or a “young, pretty” girl with “outstanding grades” says? You can beat me to death and I still will not believe it. Many prostitutes also say they are from this or that university, so they can raise their prices a little more.
淹死的鱼2009:
Sigh~!! Ignorant~! ~If your father saw you like this, he would regret not having shot your onto the wall instead!!~!
明泽逸:
Listing to her tone, this is just a mental retard~~~
NB,
Go let Japanese men LJ you then~~
Comments from NetEase:
东方儿童:
Everyone has their own way of thinking, let him (her) go!
ptn831:
Female university students can marry foreigners. Marrying black people is also okay. This is each person’s own business.
Male university students also can marry foreign women.
This is good for everyone, exchanging genes, improving the quality of the human species!
zhanglao0851:
Not every foreigner is rich, so maybe she just likes long and thick!
佚名孤客:
Every person has their own choice/preference, but you still cannot say who who who is trash. People are all the same. Foreign men also have trash men, China also, nothing more.
dachui_003:
In reality, China’s rise is its women’s butts…
george_zdz:
Why is it that everyone wants to leave the country? This is an issue worth discussing…
东进西出:
The value of highly educated women is truly a problem/issue. This is also the reason for why there are so many highly educated “leftover women” within the country.
If white people (saying these men are trash is wrong, it is a little racist) can marry them, it could be a good thing.
huangni.ucoo:
Just passing by, everyone has their own way of thinking, and for women, marriage is a second reincarnation [a second birth, second chance at life]. It should be carefully considered and grasped. With a normal heart, look at the issue rationally.
繁彬:
Actually many Chinese women who marry foreigners are unhappy, many have divorced, and what more, China’s laws are unable to help them…
But it must be said again, who you marry is your own choice, and not as simple as Chinese men not being good, only that some women are prejudiced against Chinese men…
meiyou997:
She can marry whoever she wants to marry, black devils is fine too, foreigners is also fine, it has nothing to do with us.
However, a female student attacking her teacher, with no regard for her elders/superiors, is extremely shameless. Belittling one’s own ethnicity like this, one can imagine and know what kind of low and vulgar [she] is.
Unfotunately, ChinaGeeks and Shanghaiist did not see the update to this story:
From KDS: “‘Zhejiang University Girl’ Was Exposed By Human Flesh Search, Turns Out To Be A Man”
On the evening of April 11th, through the human flesh search of netizens, the person who concocted “Zhejiang University Girl” came forward to apologize. The netizen passing as Zhejiang University Girl is “河谷渔风” ["He Gu Yu Feng"], from Jinhua in Zhejiang province, a male, born 1976 December 17. He admitted “Zhejiang University Girl” was fabricated.
Reporters contacted and interviewed “河谷渔风”. “Writing this post was simply a fenqing vent. In the beginning it was posted on Tianya, there was no intention to target Zhejiang University, and even less to point at Professor Zheng Qiang.”
“河谷渔风” told reporters that the intial reason for writing the post came during a trip in Hangzhou where, on the public busses, shopping malls, and other places, he continuously saw over ten pairs of lovers, all composed of foreign young men with good-looking Chinese university girls, that made him especially upset at the time.
“I was just expressing some of my own thoughts through the internet, and simply used the identity of a Zhejiang University Girl to increase the effect/reactions. Had I known before that this post would incite such a large averse effect, I definitely would not have posted it.” “河谷渔风” expressed, with regards to his moment of impulse, feeling very ashamed with his behavior.
“My telephone number, QQ number, mailbox, Tianya ID have all not changed, and I accept the criticism from all sides. I know that one must accept the consequences of doing something wrong.” “河谷渔风” expressed that the virtual world of the internet have given people the freedom of speech, but the consequences of that freedom of speech are not virtual.
This news was also on Sohu and NetEase. The article also includes Professor Zheng Qiang criticizing the mainstream media for failing to determine the authenticity of the incident:
“This false news report harmed Zhejiang University’s female students, harmed the current generation of female univeristy students, and harmed the common people.” Zheng Qiang expressed that Zhejiang’s mainstream media, through “false”, “slander”, and “defamatory” news reporting, has created a large averse effect for Zhejiang University.
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“I hope the media can bear even more responsibility for society, and build good social mores.” Professor Zheng Qiang said this incident serves as a lesson for the media.
Note: These pictures are not related to the Zhejiang University Girl incident.
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The guys are just jealous
Finally, The First!
(Sigh)
Too much fake stories.
Too many narrow minded people in this thread! Thankfully I’ve gotten nothing but support from local sichuan people when I’m with my wife. They are just thrilled to see’china and america hold hands’ :-)
Nah, not first.
Anyway, his/hers arguments was somewhat stupid, and reactions were to harsh.
With the way Chinese men are nowadays. Who can blame her?
As a “foreigner” who is (very happily) married to a Chinese woman I unsuprisingly don’t think other people’s relationships are anyone’s business. People may have bad or shallow reasons for whomever they date but it REALLY doesn’t matter.
Anyone who cares about foreigners dating “their” women needs to take a look at themselves and figure out why they care about something like this because the real problem is in them, not in anyone else.
Because the chinese men always blame the others for their faults..
Stan, don’t taint my comments with your crap. Either be reasonable or be quiet.
you’re a foreigner, not a “foreigner”, like it or not.
Whoops read the bottom comment. Its fake, although it being fake kinda proves my first comment.
ehhhh…. are those pics related to this post? I know one of the guys in the photos…
anyway, this is so silly. And aren’t we all a bit sick of these kind of topics about foreign guys with chinese girls.
113 posts on day one? No we are clearly not sick of it. Though I can’t believe any Chinese men are worried about loosing the girls in these pictures.
do you know him intimately?
Maybe this has more to do with younger Chinese males outnumbering females.
I agree with @infinity!
Have you read this article about the massive (and growing) birthrate difference in China?!
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30155400/
Good, in due time, the chinese men will be extinct.
So on one side of the issue we have insecure Chinese guys talking trash and blaming white guys for their own insecurities and on the other we have guys like Stan spewing bullshit and acting like the sort of dick that the Chinese guys are complaining about.
Way to go Stan! You’ve completed the circle of stupid. Now you and your Chinese counterpart can take turns spitting on each other and proving each others bias.
oh.. so this topic is about you, white guy with chinese wife.. enjoy
I agree with your comments, Stan. This “ST” character is some hypersensitive loser that thinks just cause he married a chinese girl he’s the “authority” about chinese/foreigner relationships. Hopefully he gets bored here and takes his wife back to his home country… good riddance!
this reply chain is too funny!
yo man u better take that back. why are u cussing us chinese men? quit thinking ur better than us cuz ur not, ur human im human. from an ‘americanized’ chinese
Internet rage is always sweet :p
If there are some girls who like foreign men? Then let’em. Most of them are probably just gold diggers anyway. I’d like to find a nice girl European/Chinese doesn’t matter. I want her to share my values here in life. Looking down on other people less wealthy etc. is not one of them.
Genetically, a bigger gene pool means a better natural selection of better quality of the descendants. So, technically a multiracial relationship contributes positive sides to human revolution process.
the probability for a “better” (<–needs to be defined) homosapien is definitely there by combining say a difference racial pool with another. But the probability for a “inferior” (<–needs to be defined) homospaien is there too. Also, humans have been exchanging their genes on a global level for tens of thousands of years, therefore, I doubt this mix of one race with another in today’s global gene pool will necessarily produce a “superior” (<–needs to be defined) homosapien. In the end, what I am trying to say is I cannot completely agree with your statement, but then again I doubt you really care.
Yes, mankind have been exchanging their genes for tens of thousands of years. But I don’t believe that we were exchanging at a global level multirace at the current speed. Before the Machinery Evolution, how many percentage of a “pure gene” population could have chance to escape out of its original gene pool? At most, I could say that multiracial relationship hasn’t developed until within 300 years. Moreover, may be the bad genes homosapien is still there, but considerably at a lower rate of 2:1. On an overall level of structure, the process of sperms going to eggs to start an embryo that selects the weak, unhealthy sperms left behind and only the better sperms would be able to meet the eggs to form a fetus. Human race today is already a superior form of creature on the Earth.
Actually… there are recent studies showing that we tend to be attracted to people with opposite immune system makeups so that our babies will have the best chances for survival. No better way to find an “opposite” makeup than having someone from a different country…
except all races are inferior to east asian races in terms of IQ, health, reaction time, pro-social behavior, culture, etc.
East Asians already ARE the genetically superior race. The rest still have some evolving to do before they catch up.
http://i.n.com.com/i/ne/p/2006/tribettmug1_450×527.jpg
KILLED 12 PEOPLE
http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/wp-content/uploads/green.jpg
RAPED 5 KINDERGARTEN GIRLS
http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2007/12/20/raymond_cornwall_narrowweb__300×385,0.jpg
TEACHER WHO MURDERED 100’s of ASIAN STUDENT GIRLS AND RAPED HUNDREDS FINALLY CAUGHT AFTER BODY FOUND
http://discontentblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/a6925dae-cef4-4438-a25b-5aa1d972212d.jpg
ANOTHER EXCHANGE TEACHER STUDENT SERIAL MURDERER RAPIST
http://www.thebiographychannel.co.uk/images/biographies/main/2271_bio_homepage_main.jpg
SERIAL RAPIST PEDOPHILER MURDERER OVER DOZENS OF YOUNG GIRLS ” CALLED KEN DOLL ” police suspect maybe over 50 more bodies lay still undiscovered (EVIL EVIL EVIL ANGLO BASTARD and WHORE)
http://3391.voxcdn.com/blog/images/2006/10/ace-young-07-2006-10-12.jpg
http://www.youthink.com/images_quiz/2008/10/01/full_635894206.jpg
ted bundy and gang
MASS ANGLO SERIAL RAPIST AND KILLER OVER 200!! and many more GIRLS undiscovered
http://www.iconocast.com/00032/B9/News9A_0.jpg
THis Anglo murdered dozens of young ladies and police suspect atleast 30 more undiscovered bodies
Argh! You’ve uncovered our secret! We are all evil and sadistic murderers.
Well, from what you’ve linked to at least 0.000001% of us are. The other 99.999999% are rather much nicer than what you are implying.
I’d say 90% of the white men in China are pedophiles, 5% are rapists and the remaining few that are decent are gays and women
that is 90% of whites*, not white men.
I’d say 100% of white men are pedophiles, and 80% of white men are acting pedophiles who often go to Southeast Asia to have sex with children.
In the words of Ludicrous: Get back motherfucker! You don’t know me like that!
Its the nick nack paddy wack, something something with the biggest sack…. see it all goes back to size
Haha you actually spelled ‘ludacris’ the right way but tried to be ghetto on the quote…what a wanksta you are haha oh the irony.
Try harder.
Or perhaps the fact that I spelled his name wrong was even more ghetto. Though kudos for skipping out on the punctuation. Either way, being ghetto was quite the opposite of what I was going for.
hear me clapping..
http://www.kevinwolf.com/images/mao.jpg
The same thing happens in other countries. In the US a French guy is going to get a lot more pussy than an American, even if that particular French guy is unattractive and poor.
The difference though is that we don’t bitch about it and blame the French guy for being French. You Chinese, especially Chinese men, are a whiny sophomoric lot. If your women don’t like you, then here’s an idea: CHANGE.
The anti french bias in the US is pretty bad.
Really, it depends. Like when we had the whole “freedom fries” thing, it was basically a bunch crazies that got their story blown up by the media.
The general stereotype of French people is being more romantic, having much finer food, being a bit snobby, and being weak when it comes world matters.
Most Americans will poke fun at whatever nationality you are, and expect to get poked right back. Very very few are actually malicious.
The anti-french bias is mostly a balloon blown up by our media.
It is for a reason: French people are on a general level really nasty.
You’re forgetting that there’s a difference in self-perception and thus self-confidence between Americans and Chinese. It is arguable that Americans in general are pretty self-assured. Why? Because of their American national identity. America, after all, is the dominant military, economic, and (pop-) cultural entity in the world. You don’t usually cop an inferiority complex if you’re aware that others associate you with that.
The Chinese, on the other hand, may often suffer from an inferiority complex borne from the fact that their nation is still developing, largely poor, and burdened with a history of “those white fuckers fucked us!” What’s a Chinese guy going to say to his prey? “Hey baby, I’ve got 5000 years of continuous history!” The best thing he’s got is “What to check out my fireworks?”
Of course, the Chinese need to overcome their own insecurities on their own, but it’ll take time, and it’ll certainly involve their national identity just as the self-perception of French (lovers), Italians (romantics), or British (gentlemen) identify with their’s.
HERES MORE OF YOUR ANGLO DIVERSITY
http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q318/lutonlionheart/mark.jpg
FRAK ING SCHOOL TEACHER AND A SERIAL MURDERER !!!
http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2007/06/11/BRYANT_narrowweb__300×330,0.jpg
THIS AUSTRALIAN ANGLO FREAK MURDERED and RAPED NEARLY A HUNDRED GIRLS AND BOYS
You sure have a vivid imagination. AFAIK Martin Bryant never raped anyone. And his victims (which didn’t even near “a hundred”) were of various ages.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_Arthur_massacre_(Australia)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Bryant
love me i’m a yllow master race
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/26/QinshihuangBW.jpg
Can we get some moderation in here?
I say let him rant. It provides a good counterpoint to the topic, and what better place for the whiny racist to vent?
I am a foreigner who lives in mainland China for many years, and happily married to a Chinese woman.
My experience:
I seldom can see a truly happy marriage and relationship between two Chinese around. One is always suffering from some kind of suppression.
The mixed couples I know all have been living in China, and has absolutely no intention to immigrate
overseas.
The foreigner man in the mixed couples usually not really well off even to mainland standards.
After dating some Chinese girls in my past years, NONE of them was able to date a Chinese man again – I wish I was that good, but I am afraid that is not the point.
Sz, If you say so.
I know my Wife’s boss who married to a white guy. The white guy cheated and She left, now happily dating a Taiwanese guy. My wife’s cousin married a white guy, left a 100k+ job as a manager and working a job for less than 1/2 of her pay, now their parents are shaking their heads. You think you are so superior to Chinese men but you are not.
pug_ster, I hope that is directed at Sz specifically because I can assure you that most of us (foreign guys) don’t think we are superior to Chinese men. Frankly I don’t know ANYONE foreign who feels superior to Chinese guys. Maybe that says more about who I choose to be friends with but it is still a fact. It always makes me uncomfortable when I hear Chinese guys express this sort of sentiment. It makes the person saying it look weak. It is not true so don’t claim it.
You can go around and around in circles pointing out this thing bad about some group or that thing bad about another group but that proves nothing. This white guy cheats, that chinese guy cheats, this white guy is nasty that chinese guy is nasty… surely you can see that this is an endless circle that leads nowhere and is not accurate or helpful in any way?
As for someone marrying someone and moving in to less money… so what? Money is not so important in life. Caring so much about it is a mistake. Much more important is being happy and money rarely plays a role in true happiness.
Yes I am directing at Sz because he seems to think that white guys are so great. Having living in the US for 25+ years and interacting many Americans, I think that White guys are overrated because like what Evalin says, they are attracted to the unknown and mysterious. Beyond the unknown and the mysteriousness, they are not better than an average Chinese guy.
“they are not better than an average Chinese guy.”
Very true. I couldn’t agree more. But also be aware that most white guys do not think they are better either.
“Having lived the in the US for 25+ years…”
Well, could it be said that you are attracted to the unknown and mysterious, too, otherwise why did you leave your home country?
Not that there is anything wrong with that. On the contrary, I think it is human nature to be interested in the exotic, or that which is different.
ST, I have alot of white friends and I agree with you there.
Beholder, many Chinese come to the States because of economic opportunities, and not for its mysteriousness and unknown as you think. Believe me, if I can find a job in China that pays better than what is in the states, I’m going back.
Please go back soon!
Um, I feel superior to Chinese guys FYI, because I AM
ROFL a stupid cracker talking about superiority. That’s almost as hilarious as dumb blondes bragging about their IQ. Never saw that coming haha
I’m sure that your wife is probably in that 16.8%.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financetopics/financialcrisis/5054057/Chinese-women-find-foreign-men-less-attractive-in-financial-crisis.html
I don’t know why she went for a Taiwanese guy? They are really well known for their bad treatment of girls and cheating on them whenever possible. Just ask any Taiwanese girl… I am not making this shit up.
He ‘Chinese’, not ‘Taiwanese’. There’s a world of difference.
He said ‘Chinese’, not ‘Taiwanese’.
Ye. Seems that this comment forgets that his name refers SPECIFICALLY to ‘da lu ren’ (大陆人).
Maybe he/she doesn’t know what it means.
please explain 大陆人 , i don’t know :P i want to know :)
I will explain:
Da Lu Ren or Chimate (Chinese + Primate) refers to a lower developed class on the evolutionary scale of humanoid (term used loosely). (see also chimatron, chino,)
The DLR, is a non sophisticated fuedally minded, brain washed (washed only being used in this instance)humanoid like Zombie who lives under the mental condition that IT is the supreme race inhabiting this planet.
It demonstrates a massive scytzophrenic belief that IT has brought to the world the largest contributions despite living in 80% desparate poverty and rapidly destroying the planet and its own species.
They are paranoid creatures who focus on negative images of the past in order to justify their adolecent tantrums of wanting the world to respect them while at the same time accepting massive amounts of foreign aid and investment whilst at the same time demeaning and racially slurring anyone who does not fit their physical and mentally retarded standards.
Physically the males are non developed muscluar structures with a pungent odor that accompanies with them 24 hours a day. Their characteristic style is to wear the same outfit months at a time without washing it as they believe that this will further their advancements to the female of their species.
Despite attempts to constraint their breeding, they have multiplied into over a billion strong, much like their close anscestor, the cockroach.
Let me guess, you’ve lived in Beijing for many years. And English isn’t your native language.
I am a Chinese American in the U.S. and foreign men here get more play too. I am dating a cross between Jesus and Jim Morrison and despite his poverty, taste for musicals, and absurd sense of humor, he gets women all the time!!!
We are attracted to the unknown and mysterious…
Well according to the Washington Post Asians are reversing the trend and looking for other Asians.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/03/07/AR2009030701841.html
It’s easy to see where the professor is coming from, though he was too general in his criticism. There are some Chinese girls who will approach practically any foreign man and try to get a date. Not surprisingly, a lot of the guys who respond to such reckless behavior are themselves reckless or of poor moral quality. And of course these pairs of fools and jerks tend to be conspicuous in their sexual behavior.
“There are some Chinese girls who will approach practically any foreign man and try to get a date.”
Yeah they are called prostitutes. I’ve lived in China for years now, I’ve never seen this type of behavior where respectable Chinese women indiscriminately throw themselves at foreign guys, but then again I’ve never lived in Shanghai.
The pictures of ugly asian girls with foreigner men is making us lose face! Those foreigners were doing China a favor..
Yes, on this subject, why can’t you guys get better looking chinese girls..why do we leave the good looking ones to the chinese men and taking the ugly ones away.
I thought I was the only one. They’re just average lookin girls, the cop a few topics back is more attractive
You mean that one from the post in Chinese? Definitely.
So… some shallow Chinese girls are choosing boyfriends for shallow reasons… and this is news?
Who cares the reason someone wants to be with someone else, if they don’t want to be with you then it really doesn’t have any affect on your life.
Not sure why the professor thinks this is an issue, even if it is a self respect issue, I don’t think it is something that can be “fixed” through education. Maybe it’s because all the shallow female students at his school are now interested in foreign boys and not perverted old professors….
Maybe one of the er nai’s he was chasing went with a white guy
The Professor is simply telling them to walk around with their head up. He simply used a controversial issue.
whatever happened to liba and kds comments, I bet their comments would be quite entertaining.
I am all for interracial relationships, but I think Chinese girls need some education in this. I mean if you like a guy cause you like him, fine. But if you like someone just because his white? C’mon.
And some advice to Chinese guys, Stand the F up. Stop hiding in the corner. Go to the Gym, get some muscles. Clean up the hair, and pick some fights.
Pick some fights? You are an idiot… give me your address and cell number and we’ll see what kind of fight you pick!
Another fake story from some idiot pretending to be a female on the Internet. Classic man. LOL.
Seriously, the Chinese Girls are not as dumb as some think. These girls are not marrying for love. Its about economic opportunities and social status. Green card, repatriation of money back home and most of all social mobility upwards.
The retired old farts that usually marry foreign brides always get ripped off and left low and dry. Many cases of Russian, Eastern European brides and Thai brides abandon ship when they over to the West.
Who do u think win in a situation like Rupert Murdoch and Wendy Deng? Who gets to inherit the wealth?
It is pretty classic.
I have to say, though, Murdoch is smart enough to know what’s up. He just doesn’t care.
Seriously, even if she’s a high priced gold-digger of a bride, he can afford it.
Hey man. This SHIT IS MAJOR BORING.
WHO THE FUCK CARES??? IF YOU WANNA FUCK JUST GO FIND SOMEONE. IF YOU DOn’T, THEn DON’T.
You EITHER GET LAID OR YOU DON’T. Jeez.
I mean… you are in control of your own body right. If you wanna f*** someone… go for it.
Foreign people/things always have a kind of ‘mystique’ associated with them and this ‘mystique’ attracts girls, no matter in which country you are talking about. However, when girls come to foreign countries and settle down, they become more rational and the ‘mystique’ fades. As a Chinese student living in US, I have met more than two dozens of couples in the past five years. Majority of them are both Chinese nationals, only one is American husband with Chinese wife. These women all had or are having master or Ph.D. educations and they are prudent in picking up partners. When being asked why not choose an American, the general response is that a Chinese man is more responsible in family, less playboy and very importantly, there are much more “common languages” (共同语言) between them than with American males. Some girls that broke with American boyfriends told me they usually fight over things that come from cultural misunderstandings even politics (Chinese girls abroad are VERY patriotic, the mom in “French passenger incident” in a precious chinaSmack post is a good example). Meanwhile, loneliness is what most Chinese girls felt when they couldn’t communicate well with their American boyfriends, and their identity as foreigners makes the feeling worse. When I was talking to the Chinese wife who has an American husband, I can feel the loneliness of being foreign in both family and the country, and the excitement that she finally find someone to speak CHINESE again. This may explain that many Chinese wives with foreign husbands insist their families move to China.
It’s a characteristic of Chinese expats, that even they speak a fluent foreign language and have a materially comfortable life in a foreign country, China is the only place where they feel their root is. The influence of Chinese culture is magically strong and the spiritual connection between them is irresistible. So irresistible that it burdens them from really blending into the country they are living in, sometimes even for generations.
Real reason is Chinese people are less likely to get a divorce even if they’re unhappy whereas US’ divorce rate is 40%-50%, but its wrong to say the truth…
People are people
Chinese guys aren’t more responsible. Lots of guys go out on business and hook up girls in bars or hotels. Seems like everyone knows a guy that has a girl on the side, and I’ve personally seen profs go to hotels with their students and prostitutes work right in the hotels
I remember meeting one of my wife’s aunts for the first time. She lives in Taiyuan (not so many foreigners there) and after meeting me said to my mother-in-law (who immediately called me and told me) “Why, he’s not a playboy at ALL! He was very nice.” I guess she expected me to be some horny caricature of a white devil… not sure. Frankly, I’m the one who usually ends up saying “No thanks, not tonight” when the Chinese guys I’m with suggest a little “relaxation” after a night of drinking.
The whole foreigner as “playboy” thing is a bit overplayed, I think. Though I WILL say that our (foreigners) attitude towards sex and dating is (was? I haven’t dated in a while) certainly more liberal than the typical Chinese. I suspect that today’s Chinese youth are not nearly so conservative as the slightly older generation (I don’t really know for certain) but I know that Americans who were college students in the early 1990’s were much more liberal in sex and dating than Chinese of that same period.
Maybe the relatively lower divorce rate is due to that we are afraid of losing face in a divorce, which is great blow in a man’s personal credit in his guanxi network. Thanks to the huge gender imbalance, there are 30 million wolves out there can’t find a sheep, so us, who already got one, better hid our tails and paws, go home and f*** our laopo :-P
Losing face yes, but not with the general public. It wasn’t a secret. The guys would go drinking with their friends or coworkers. Some of these guys were working middle class, some were upper class, ran factories and stuff, and some even owned their own sucesful business. The wives knew. A wife came into the hotel I was staying at looking for her husb once, her husb worked in the hotel.
My opinion is its the kids and not wanting to lose face for the parents
Yeah, so men “compromise” instead and support prostitution…
I see a lot of argument that begins with the assumption that only the Western European concept of romantic love is the “correct” concept of love.
Try a little cultural awareness. Practically speaking, more than one woman means trouble in any relationship, sure, but here the very act itself means different things in Chinese vs. Western cultures.
In China’s culture, it was historically acceptable for a man to have multiple wives, whereas in European cultures monogamy has historically been the norm. Mistresses were always illegal in Western culture and thus more stigmatized. Therefore a Western man who knows this, yet still goes after other women, is doing something different than the man who seeks a second wife in a culture that has recognized second wives as an institution for thousands of years.
It’s too simple to argue, “I’ve seen Chinese guys get with other women; this proves they aren’t committed to their families.” The same act means different things depending on cultural context. It’s entirely possible for an act to be inconsistent with family obligations when performed by one man in one culture and consistent when performed by another in another culture (and for another act which WOULD be inconsistent for the second man to be perfectly in line for the first.)
Put another way: would you aim this criticism at, say, African tribesmen with multiple wives and use it as “evidence” that they are not committed to their families? Or would you be more willing to accept that their culture simply is different and having many women does not in any way mean that such a man is not committed to his family and home?
You’re very right. More people should be voting you up.
Um Retard, we feel the same loliness, only the difference is that in America and other countries, we don’t treat you like some kind of animal and spend countless hours talking about you in blogs.
You dont think a foreigner feels lonely in China or even worse ostrisized by a society who automatically stereotypes us in a negative way?
You have no idea about anything and the fact that you have done this research is little more than your attempt to try to make chinese look better. Yes the language thing can be difficult, and it can be challenging but two people who love each other can face any of those challenges.
Your last sentence was well said, ‘it can be challenging but two people who love each other can face any of those challenges’, but you don’t have the love to face the challenge (treat you like animal things) that you met in your life. You don’t have the right attitude. Other than venting your angry, is your “f**k this f**k that” attitude solving any real problems and ease your loneliness that you have? Peace man! I have been living in China for more than twenty years and I promise you that many people there are friendly when you need help. To those who treat you bad, I suggest you ignore them and move on.
I don’t know your purpose going to China but if you like, there are lots of fun you can make living there. Practice your Chinese and hang out with your Chinese friends instead of wasting your time in trolling here. A lots of foreigners had great time in experiencing the culture in China, why can’t you?
C’mon, buddy, being a foreigner in China has its perks too. There are advantages and disadvantages. You suddenly whining about feeling lonely as a foreigner or getting “automatically” and “negatively” stereotyped is no better than the Chinese guys insecure about the size of their penis whining about Chinese girls flocking to foreigners. You’re sounding exactly like the people you love to hate.
i awlways thought fuck da lu ren was from hong kong. aparently not.
“We don’t spend hours talking about it in blogs”
You’re kidding, right? Ever hear of Stormfront or any of the dozens of other racist American institutions? They have websites, too, you know.
Retards don’t change minds. I feel treated like an alien, not animal.
I liken myself to a sister of Shakespear.
Let me give you a lesson in Shakespeare
Merchant of Venice, starring Jessica
But how I caught it, found it, or came by it,
What stuff tis made of whereof it is born
I am to learn…
Or as it were the pageants of the sea…
As they fly by them with their woven wings.
Space is thought to be like the sea. I hope you see the point. Who’s more retarded you or me. Take a seat. Or go for a swim. But first read Stephen Hawking who studied time travel with black holes. I think its interesting how much I know by being self taught with books and analysis. Let me guess. Your probably were a teacher? This is why I dropped out. I learn more through independent studies because teachers are too preoccupied with their next kill.
Want to reread the books with me?
Word of the day: double etendre: double meaning.
You can’t be a teacher if you can’t spell. You are ignorant. Occassionally, you make a good biting point. I mistook you for someone else. Are you stealing names/identities?
Chinese men more responsible? There is no culutural tradition in the West of men having “second wives”.
Word to your mother fish!!!! Preach on!!! or Prostis in the hotel after a seafood banquet where you launder pensions
Actually, there has been a tradition like that in various places, but for the most part it died out a long time ago. The only exception I can think of are the “fundamentalist” Mormons. I believe that the federal authorities raided a compound of such Mormons a while back concerning that practice, but I didn’t follow the details and I think the whole raid became a mess.
Mormons or some odd fringe group doing something doesn’t exactly make it a cultural tradition. Many countries in the West have major taboos against institutionalized cheating. Where as in China having a second wife is portrayed as normal or even cute or romatic in many movies or tv shows.
You’ve got the facts right but instead of trying to understand things in the right cultural context, you’re choosing to use those facts to condemn an entire culture. Does that make sense?
“Chinese men more responsible? There is no culutural tradition in the West of men having ’second wives’.”
Exactly, which means that culturally the Chinese guy who has a second wife isn’t doing anything wrong, whereas culturally the white guy who has a mistress on the side is cheating and doing something VERY wrong. Same act + different context = different meaning.
I mean, look, getting drunk is no big deal in America, but a huge offense (worse than heroin use) in the Middle East. It all depends on cultural context.
Just cause a culture does something doesn’t mean it’s okay. At the same time, even though having a “second wife” is a cultural tradition in China, it doesn’t mean that even all or most Chinese people think it’s “right”. Talking about the modern sense of 二奶… most Chinese people, even the guys who have one, would say it’s wrong.
lol a “second wife” is NEITHER considered right NOR a tradition in China. To the opposite, having a out-of-marriage romance is the biggest reason for divorce since it IS considered as serious cheating.
Anonymous brought an interesting perspective into this conversation that I’m sad no one else considered before.
Mike, you’re right that something isn’t “okay” just because a culture or society does it. However, I know Anonymous is not arguing about right or wrong, but the concept of social norms.
Having a second wife is widely considered “wrong” (or “not okay”) in China as well. In fact, it is technically illegal and there are no legally institutionalized or sanctioned second/third/etc. wives. They’re all technically mistresses, satisfy the definition of infidelity, and grounds for divorce. However, just because a culture widely condemns having second wives doesn’t mean having second wives can’t still be a notable phenomenon. It could be widely condemned amongst some social groups yet also widely tolerated amongst other social groups. It could be widely condemned amongst most social groups in public yet be tolerated amongst some social groups in private.
Both can exist at the same time, and both could be considered social attitudes or even norms. What Anonymous is trying to get you to consider is that contradicting social attitudes towards infidelity by men in China may result in Chinese people feeling less strongly or simply differently about the issue of infidelity than you do or your culture does.
As a result, you may find it utterly reprehensible and completely unacceptable, while they may likewise think it is bad, but have come to tolerate it because of sociological inertia.
Kai, to me this comment chain came about from USTcer’s amazing support of the generalization that Chinese men are more responsible. I only meant to question his generalizations; I hate generalizations, in general. An that’s what all this is really about. Simple generalizations of foreigners and the girls that date them, them devolving into a bash Chinese men fest. Can you address that with your well-thought-out prose?
Mike, I’m not referring to USTCer’s “amazing support of the generalization that Chinese men are more responsible” or your questioning of his generalizations. I’m just following-up on Anonymous’s point.
To follow up to the issue of generalizations with well-thught-out prose: “I hate generalizations, in general.”
That’s why they’re more responsible.
They’re responsible for two or three wives, while you guys are only responsible to one…
Me sooo chinese
USTCer, nice post, your last paragraph especially. I think the 1st and 1.5 generations very much feels that China is “home”. That’s why the haigui keeps coming back. As China grows stronger and the average Chinese becomes more prosperous, the attraction only becomes stronger. It’s been pretty satisfying in the past 10 years to see critics of China continually stifled and ignored, and many foreigners now come to China to make a living, and contributing to its strengthening…
@ Sniper, you can get more money, but you still don’t shower…. hahaha
And btw, who makes that money, regular people? no no my friend, the officials. You will still earn 500 US a month so you can buy a Japanese car :) Snooogans
Truth and reality hurts, doesn’t it? As a racist, you hate China and the “yellow peril” Chinese, and yet you’re a loser who can’t make it outside of the country, so you’re dependent on the very things you despise, like a slave who can’t see himself breaking the shackles.
You suffer in silence as the country you hate becomes stronger, you can’t say anything in public or even to your “friends”, because you’re a coward and you know when to keep your mouth shut, so you come here to vent your racism…
I pity you, fool…you know instantly if your identity is discovered, you’re done, therefore, continue to keep your mouth shut, except in anonymous rants here.
These are the posts I love the most… the “you are only here because you are a loser” and you “fear” the growth of China…
The best part about it is, I get paid 15 times what you make because you are too stupid to do what i do…
I never said I hate China, I like China… I don’t like YOU, stupid little dirty haired, Tong ji University graduates who can’t get a date so spend their time ranting about the “evil” white people (please see my rebuttal to the “ugly” things that happen in China….
You are right though, i do come here to vent and it makes me feel good to throw out the truth and watch you Chimatrons get all worked up. If you were in jungle you would be jumping up and down smashing your hands on the ground and grunting, much like you do in Shanghai on a daily basis hahahaahahahahahah.
hahaha, you may make 15 times the local salary right now and maybe in the near future, but you will get cut out one day as many IT workers found out the hard way in the 1990’s when jobs outsourced to India.
I find it hilarious when the “ugly” laowai (such as you) thinks he is invincible and will continue to go on forever as if the world will never change. When you get kicked out of China because you are no longer useful, please do send us a note. There are thousands and thousands of haigui in China plus the millions of college grads each year who can replace you, and do things better.
By the way, you don’t get paid 15 times more than me, I’m in the U.S., and I’m more awesome than you. Why? Because I’m not a mentally unbalanced hater and I love both China and America.
I’m SniperWZ and I approve this message.
@Sniper, Yes i know there are so many “hai gui” returning from better countries after they get a “real” education and then I hire them to be my secratery, because no matter where they have been, they are still chimates.
You work in the US? Bravo, now return to your motherland since you love it so much, or are you just downloading as much IP intelligence as you can before you come home to live with your mom?
I was at home sick today and felt like throwing some pearls out there, I hope you little munkatrons enjoyed…
nope, I’ll be your boss or more likely, your boss’ boss; I speak the Chinese language better and I have better work experience (I-Banking), and my college education is better than whatever community college you went to. In short, I can function in both the U.S. and China better than you. I have no clue what you do nor do I care, but it’s clear you’re 2nd tier, maybe that explains partially your unbalanced mental state.
You sure your job is safe? There are so many others (even other laowai) who can do your job better than you. Hey, AIG was AAA rated until it wasn’t, things can change fast, very fast…
@ FDLR
haha your hilarious bro. awesome!
THE PENISES! THEY ARE SO BIG!
Your finger does one thing. Mine does another.
Keep bragging about your job and you’ll find it gone tomorrow too.
Bragging about being an Investment Banker in the current financial crisis… lol
It’s a shitty market, but I’m just glad to have so much more savings than those in lesser jobs (even after the blowups in the equity markets)…
Funny,
My Singaporean Chinese wife of 30 years, never wanted to move to China 13 years ago, and still wants to move back to the US (not Singapore or HK interestingly where we had also lived). But then again, there are always exceptions to broad brushed categorizations ;)
I don’t think “common languages” really needed to be translated.
Also, it’s called exoticism, and why does the end of your post sound like a twisted tourism advertisement? “Magically strong”? And: “a characteristic of Chinese expats” – give me a break, like you’re Pavlov or someone. It’s a shame some people spend so much effort cultivating a scientific vocabulary only to fail at masking their phoniness.
Let me add some explanations to “responsible”. As I said before, based on my observation, security feeling is what a Chinese women mostly wants in her marriage, especially in an international marriage. It’s the difference in culture and value system between east and west that gives Chinese man advantage in satisfying Chinese women. Chinese value system pay more attention in family and relatives while western countries focus on self-determination. One example is that most Chinese couples remain a strong tie to their parents’ families after marriage. Husbands from east Asian countries where Confucianism has a strong influence may see it as a natural thing but most western men cannot bear this, “what? I only love you, not your parents”. Another example is that generally speaking Chinese women are much more dependent than western women, and their western husbands usually get pissed off and don’t get why Chinese wives cannot take care of themselves. In China, saying “I don’t care about your parents’ feeling” or “you should dependent on yourself” is not far away from saying “I no longer love you and am looking for a new one so you’d better depend on yourself from now on”. One proof to this theory is that 70% of international marriage happened between Chinese wives and oversee Chinese husbands, and most of the rest are from east Asia (Taiwan, Japan and S.Korea). Sure, things have exceptions. Sluts are alway there with legs open to everyone who has cash, dollars or RMB, throwing at them (did just I say they are Rén Mín Bī ?). Decent Chinese women who got happy marriage with western husbands are usually the type of more independent and less traditional in thinking and their husbands are less “westerner”. However, interracial marriage is only a tiny fraction so those guys who complaint about foreigner got their girls are cowards. Wake up, every dick around you got a pussy why you loser are one of the miserable 30 millions. It’s not about what color your dick is, it’s about how (or whether) you use it.
I’m a white foreign women married to a Chinese man. He’s highly educated, good at writing and with an ability to charm everyone he meets. Well respected by other Chinese in the Chinese community here. He also gambles heavily, contributes virtually nothing to our family’s economy (although he make a lot more money than I do), never asks about how his children are doing in school, never bothered to teach them one word of Chinese, and if you say something he doesn’t like, he’ll slap you right in the face. So don’t tell me “chinese men are more responsible in family”. They’re just like everyone else. Some are good, some are bad.
This reminds me of “professor” Zhang a.k.a. “the shrimp” of Shanghai University.
To the dousche bag Anti Anglo Chi Mate posting on China smack.
Did you forget this?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Chinese_slave_scandal
Chinese slaves found in 2007
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7624498.stm
Chinese milk kills children
Chinese guy cuts off head and eats person
http://forums.chinesesavvy.com/viewtopic.php?p=13592&sid=bd687f7a931916d59fd23328a962168d
Ma Jia Jue
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2004-03/17/content_315545.htm
Chinese teachers poisoning students (population control)
http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/200309/29/eng20030929_125184.shtml
Let me tell you Chimatrons once and for all why we win:
1. You dont wash
2. You smoke and smell like ass
3. You go to the pink light shack every chance you get
4. Even if you have a PHD, you earn $500 US per month (that is what we pay our maids)
5. You wouldn’t know what do do with a “bi” if it sat on your face (and its sits on ours often)
6. Despite all your “education” (cheating and uselss communist dribble) you dont know shit about anything
7. Even our high school basketball, soccer, and track teams could beat your Olympic teams (see Liu Xiang doesn’t run because he knew he would lose)
8. You don’t shower (yes I put it twice)
9. You live at home until you are 40
10. Your mother and father don’t shower either
FUCK CHIMATE MEN
Wow, you sound like you just got owned by a “Chimate” and need a place to vent, pretty hilarious!
lame, come up with something better for next time
Hmm… I think to be fair you should remove #7. Chinese has some of the strongest athletes in the world. Not sure where you were last Olympics.
The rest of it is pretty much spot on though.
Well, if you count the fact that 70% of the medal count was by women, and that about 80% of those medals were by contest judged by officials ….. hmmmm, then you can you can maybe say they are strong.
And strangly enough (I am a former competative Olympic athlete)all the urine tests were taken by the host country to IOC officials…. seems kinda fishy when Olympic weight lifting medals are being won by women laced with acne all over their faces and outlifting everyone else by 10-20 kilos….
Actually, I hardly ever hear Chinese people mention the gold medal haul in the 2008 Olympics.
They don’t seem to be particularly proud of the fact that their robo-athlete factories are so good at spotting long-limbed 3 year-olds with the potential to become women’s long-distance underwater caber-tossing champions of the future, or whatever other meaningless events they won all their medals in. Thank God the basketball team was knocked out by a country with a population of a Chinese village, that the football team disgraced itself and Liu Xiang pulled out, otherwise you could be certain they’d be adding them to the printing press and the compass as signs of China’s innate superiority.
i dont know what happen to you man… but something mustve happened. :) cheers mate!
what makes you hate da lu ren so much?
Oh the games we play
You’re a nice guy.
And BTW,
The dilback who made up this article (much like they do with their education system, history, and economic growth numbers) doesn’t have to apologize to the “foreigners” of whom will take the brunt of his nationalist rant???
FCUK HIM!!! Why do we always have to take shit from computer hunching, nose picking, non butt wiping faggatrons like this kid? He should apologize to ALL FOREIGNERS in PUBLIC.
Let’s find him and give him and idea of why the girls here like us, I will personally slap him with my reason ;)
yawn…whatever, like your opinion counts for shit in China…
Well, you responded too it, one love bitch… Snoochie booochies
This blog could use a function where any individual poster’s comments can be blocked by other users, a filter system to really weed out the riff raff…
Then we would be China Daily :)
That would a pretty good function, it’s like a spam blocker where you can automatically get rid of the junk emails!
Use the + and – buttons.
FDLR, can you f**king stop spamming this post?
Where’s the administrator? Please do your f**king job!
Whats wrong little sensative man, its ok for the guy who hates Anglos to do it, but not me? Can’t handle the truth?
Maybe you should go find a white girl to drown your sorrows… oh wait you can’t hahaha,
maybe you should leave China, it’s making you into a caricature and an ugly laowai…oh wait, you’re a loser who can’t make it outside of China; keep suffering inside, you know you have to keep your mouth shut outside your computer room…
OOOHHHHH SNIPER you really got me there. If you actually saw me in real life you would quiver and wet yourself with fear lol.
I don’t need to defend what I do here. I have one of your girls as my own already ;)
I am your nightmare, good looking, successful, and just all around awesome.
But even if I was 1.5 meters, 120 KG, hairy, I would still get more women than you hahahaahha
Nope…I doubt it, you sound like a mentally unbalanced loser, with some serious illusions about yourself. Keep the girl, but don’t forget to pay her the monthly retainer, true love is awesome eh?
You should keep doing what you’re doing as long China benefits from it, until you’re no longer useful, feel free to stick around.
Sniper, you forget, I am WHITE, we don’t pay retainers we just treat them like humans so they stay with us ;).
You do pose a good point about the stick around until you are no longer useful which is the Chimatrons end all goal.. however seeing what I see out here in the working world, looks like I will have a LOOOONNNNGGG career hahaahah..
BTW, tell your mom that she didn’t clean the house very well last week and I am cutting her salary to 350 RMB this month.
fcuk da lu ren, you are even more insecure than the Chinese guys complaining about foreigners dating “their” women. From your comments I suspect SniperWZ nailed what you are… a sad individual.
OMG ST, you are so right, can you help me to feel better about myself? Could you find some wisdom from the IChing to help me raise my confidence to that of the valiant scholars of the Tang Dynasty?
OR maybe the brave soldierso of the PLA? Please O Please help me to see the scholarly wisdom of the greatness that is the motherland to raise me up and understand my shortcommings to be more like the great nation….
Yes I could help you feel better about yourself. Indeed I could, but I won’t. You have more baggage than the lost luggage room at Pudong and will have to deal with it yourself. Somehow.
With that, time to unsubscribe from this particular thread. I like Chinasmack in general but when the likes of you start vomiting your insecure, childish nonsense all over the threads it means the room has gone to shit and it is time to leave.
A sad person and also mentally unbalanced; to feel better about himself, he clearly needs to vent his deep racism about Chinese people, he sounds like a southern whiteneck from the Panhandle if you replace Chinese with “black people” and Chimate with “Niggers”, not much difference here except the target of racism. The use of monkeys as his favorite pejorative throughout also strangely and erriely matches what any white racist would ascribe to African-Americans.
Sniper, you mean southern redneck?
Well… let’s see, I voted for Obama…. soooo… you do the math…. who did you vote for?? oh wait you can’t…
I think I pretty well described who I am racist against… YOU… but yes I do harbor some resentment to Chimatrons and this is a wonderful way for me to vent, thank you China Smack. At least I am honest about it :)
Mentally unbalanced? with 110 million diagnosed cases of mental illness in china is it any wonder I fit in here so well then.
@Sniper, I have had Chinese boses whom I respect and I admire and are accomplished human beings… unlike you and the dousche bag who made up this story to get people against foreigners (probably paid for by China Daily).
I love guys like you who talk so valiently about China while you live in America… How is it over there btw? Why aren’t you back in Tai Yuan with your college sweet heart eating sweet potato and living the dream???
You could be my boss, if you could afford me…
Epic Fail, I voted for Obama, too; and I voted for John Kerry in 2004.
Wait, aren’t you racist against Chinese people? Or do you have some kind of dissociative identity disorder going??? Don’t bother explaining, I don’t care.
When did you get the impression I’m against Foreigners??? I’m living in the United fucking States of America, I work with and for all kinds of people, foreign or US born, and I don’t end up a hater like you.
Like I said, if you can’t stand it, get the fuck out of the country; you must be able to stand it though, because you are still serving China.
What’s even more pathetic than an idiot? arguing with one?
i agree. this is just entertaining. none of it makes sense anymore.. pure entertainment!
Have you thought about his name? He hates 大陆人 not 华人. Sounds like he might be a Taiwanese, Hong Kong, or Singapore or some other hyphenated American. They often have the biggest beef with China because of crushed expectations and all. So, I’d guess he’s not a 老外 in the traditional sense of a white western foreigner and if you saw him in person you’d definately not refer to him as a 老外. Anyway stop assuming he’s a white guy cause that’s what laowai really means, isn’t it?
Im actually KAI’s evil alter ego… guys I am a whitie. Crushed expectations? A little, but honestly just ranting. I only hate Chimatrons on a bi weekly basis.
I suspect Fcuk de la ren is some chap that I nearly crushed under a stiletto.
He’s still bitter and blames my father and I.
Either that or he’s the creep who’s wife was rescued by MAO. I dunno…
Amazing what ego buidings can happen is such a short break isn’t it? It’s like someone reharnessed all the vitriol and sank it back into one person.
Dude, go see your therapist. Or get a rope or something.
Actually, there was already a guy who asked for admins on the anti-Anglo spam, before USTCer started posting. Posting more would be, you know, spamming.
Good attempt to muddy the issue though!
At least I bothered to read FDLR’s comments. The Anglo-whatever-guy’s were automatically skipped in my reading. In terms of spamming this post, they both did a good job.
My mom is Chinese. She divorced my chinese dad, and found a white dude. Divorced him and found this other white dude. I guess some Chinese women just like white guys.
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Just kidding.
Get some perspective people… do white girls in Europe not go for Africans, Arabs or other exotic men? Don’t American chicks love any decent guy with an accent? Attractive Latin men show up in Australia and they don’t get OZ poon? If Takeshi Kaneshiro, or whoever the handsome East Asian guy of the day might be, went anywhere in the world he could get almost any woman he wanted. We all like exotic, each place’s exotic is different.
This post is retarded and I feel super-retarded for posting…again and again.
Where’s KAI? I need some human interaction, playing with you Chimates is boring. I can only throw pearls at banana eating monk tards for so long before I need some intellectual stimulation
LoL, I love you too, bro.
DUDE Good to see you man, I had a rant day yesterday, I just love to watch these guys lose their mind!!!! How have you been bro, I have been to busy to post but I’m glad to be back!!
You mean love to watch yourself lose your own mind? Or do you actually read your comments before you post? Keep ranting away, maybe one day you will be brave enough to say it to someone’s face in China.
I have to say that I do find the offensive comments above relevant to the subject at hand. Yes they are exaggerated, but not more than “professor” Zheng’s comments or the purported Zhejiang U girl’s post.
“To strangers on the street however, she is probably just another Chinese girl with some damn foreigner. Those people need to get a life.”- ST
Sing it brother.
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So many Chinese are elitist xenophobes that when one of “their kind” wants to get out of the circle they viciously come down upon them. Can take the people out of the country side but cant take the country side out of the people.
Anyone ever thought about how hard it is to find a mate in China and that the “outstandingness” of foreigners makes them easy and apparant rather than having to sort through the millions of mediocre, normal, average, so-so guys, just like if a guy is super fit, handsome, drives a nice car, has a good smile, dresses well, has good hair, whatever. They stand out, so they are an easy target.
To all the over judgemental Chinese men on here… this is what my foreign friend said about this
“I’d love to meet you in public and show you what a real man is… I’ve been married to my Chinese wife for 10 years, we have a great kid, I’ve built her family a house, I’m polite to strangers, give my seat on the bus, have never spit or littered, don’t drink or smoke, have never whored around, and contributed more to this country than 99% of you ever will. I don’t get in your business so don’t fucking get in mine.”
Wow, so much going on in this post….
I just want to throw in my 10 cents here. As I was reading what your friend said, Fish, I thought I should point you all in the direction of a TV series I’ve been addicted to – “Mad Men”. It takes place in the 50’s and 60’s in America. Not such a long time ago, but it’s like a different world, a different culture. Take a look at it, and then try to gain some perspective on how a culture develops. Realize that it doesn’t happen overnight. Changes, real changes, take time to happen. Even in China, the place of rapid amazing change, we can’t expect everything to be perfect only 30 years after the end of one of the most tumultuous periods any country in the world has ever gone through. While I don’t know your friend (he may have been provoked into finally spewing that out at someone after years of patience), it’s that kind of cultural superiority and lack of any sort of understanding that makes me avoid the expat crowd.
Why does it have anything to do with being an expat? Isn’t it just about it being their business and them being able to tell the person who gets in that business where they stand and that they should fuck off? If a person or persons walks up and judges you based on some petty little shallow thing and gets it all completely wrong, what does it have to do with cultural superiority to tell them they are an ignorant douchebag?
There are tens of millions of civil polite non-judgemental uneducated farmers in China who would never say an unkind word to a foreigner or get in their business. So when some blog trolling pseudo-educated rich city boy starts attacking foreigners over the non-issue of “all foreigners steal our women”, I could see why those foreigners might think those other guys are pricks and it have nothing to do with being some mean culturally insensitive “expat”.
Some issues are about telling assholes to fuck themselves, plain and simple. Nothing about race, class, or gender just about “fuck you, mind your own business!”.
On a side note… why are foreigners in certain places or certain foreigners in certain places called expats but in others they’re not? How often in New York do you hear Pakistani taxi drivers being called expats? or the Nepali guards in HK? or the Cameroonians France? Sounds like a loaded term to me.
I agree with giving over-judgmental and intrusive people of any race or culture a verbal smackdown. There was just something about the quote you gave that set me off I guess – I’ve heard LOTS of foreigners here in Beijing talk that way when not at all provoked, and in general my experience has been that most foreigners will jump at the chance, in any conversation about China or the way Chinese people are, to offer an opinion similar to what your friend said, and in a way that to me sounds culturally arrogant. Maybe I need to expand my social circle…
I’m not sure about where the term comes from historically speaking, but “expat” is short for “expatriate”, just meaning someone who is away from their own country. It was shortened (like many other words in English) for convenience, but I think your right in that has become a little bit loaded. When I hear the word “expat” I think of a bunch of silver haired guys with their shirts half unbuttoned, gold necklaces, a much too young Chinese girl on his arm, drinking wine and complaining loudly about “things not being like they are back home”. Sounds like a stereotype, but I’ve actually seen this with my own eyes on more than one occasion, and not on Halloween (although it would make an excellent costume, come to think of it).
Steroetypes exist because unfortunately they’re often true.
You have to be in the right frame of mind to accept your new environment.
Too many suprises can cause culture shock.
Sniper,
It’s because of guys like you defending some douchebag pinpacking, lying weasel in zhejiang uni, that FDLR feels as aggro as he does.
That asshole owes LAOWAIS an apology first and foremost! He is the kind of a-hole that makes walking down the street uncomfortable for a mixed couple in this country.
Tell you what though… I have noticed that when someone tries to tread on me, I usually go hate-f@ck one of their women. And after I am done making niu-bi-chuar with them… they usually come back…and back again.
BTW. FDLR… if you use the term ‘Chimate’ you will have to pay me a copyrite fee.
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A brief adaptation from gth793y post.
“The ill informed can not help but to romanticize with the unknown. aided by the only few other media outlets they can receive. In their Hollywood saturated wishful thinkings, every ChoXiaoMeimei from Southwest Henan is just another Lucy Liu or Zhang Ziyi in the making.”
The door swings both ways.
That’s just sad you’re actually defending FDLR’s racist attitude while you accuse Sniper of defending a “douchebag”.
I actually wrote a paper on this topic recently…to summarize, people like the exotic for many reasons, most of which are subconscious.
Sure some girls are just sluts. As an educated, tall, average-looking white man I could lay almost any girl I want here (and this really isn’t me being egotistical). From sly comments to girls actually saying “can i come over”, its just that easy. It’s hard to be honest here and you need an iron will to keep your dick in your pants. The foreigners here in China know what I’m talking about.
Instead I have a girl I have loved for more than 4 years. An average-looking, short, educated girl who doesn’t want to emigrate. I am learning the language, I know the history and culture. I am a China-”lifer”. So that makes me an ass, a trashy foreigner who just came to China to get laid?
The problem is painting everyone with the same brush. Despite the ability to carve numerous notches on my belt, I don’t. And it pisses me off when Chinese say shit to my girlfriend about her being a slut or that she thinks she is better than Chinese. If there was no risk of deportation I would punch each one.
Low blow time (I need one cheap shot….despite my comment about not painting everyone with the same brush =P): at least with me she can get married for love…not because some Chinese guy knocked her up because he is too stupid to use a condom, or doesn’t even know what a condom is
Too bad here in the US we have the dumb white trash hoochies who are just too damn ugly and/or spoiled otherwise I would want a shot at them.
Very poetic, one brush, whatever. “I actually wrote a paper on this topic recently” – where, Florida International University?
Yeah, blah…you’re very poetic yourself…Cranium contributed something to the topic and spoke from personal experience…go shove yourself back up a Chicken’s ass.
The average “trailer trash” American exponentially outclasses the average Chinese middle-class man.
What was this professor doing in a foreign university anyway? Seems he himself is a hypocrite.
why is this crap still going. Haha, I hate you all.
Let me smoke some pot and see if this shit gets better… probably not. Pot has limits.
haha, this is why China (along with the rest of East Asia) needs to institute a eugenics program. If those three pictures above are anything to go by, those sellout whores are too god damn fugly and stupid. They are however, great for target practice.
I don’t understand why the educator/professor from the university gets off so lightly with his dialogue. It is his remarks that stir the hatred, and deter social development. Look at the thread; it all comes back to the same old same china guy/white guy chest beating. He must be reincarnated of a German brown shirt that used to say the same things about Germans dating Jews. The dating seen is at least out and open, with women making their own choices.
Why can’t he make a public comment on the open abuse of uneducated, poor girls that are living the life of the red lantern hairdresser? Where is the public outcry, that so many local girls being used so openly?
People enjoy the show. They don’t care about the one on stage.
“zhejiang university girl” is a 10/10 troll. props.
Maybe if you Chinese stopped killing your daughters there would be enough girls to go around.
The Orz has it. China’s problems with women are China’s fault 100%. Even the poor girls who don’t get aborted and are put up for adoption are almost all adopted by foreigners, mainly Americans. What percent of Chinese women actually ever hook up with let alone marry a foreigner? The number must be so infitecimal as to be completely irrelevent. Chinese guys don’t get girls cause there aren’t enough of them because Chinese culture has a serious malfunction, or two.
Yeap, blame it on the western countries…
Blame all the round eyes. They make everyone want to be white, even black people wants to be white.
Case in point, Michael Jackson.
Too much of our ‘worth’ (whether Chinese or Foreign) is apparently dependent on our bankbook. In reality, all most people want is not to worry about their next meal, rent etc, have a nice clean place to live in and the rest is all about how well they get along.
The fact is that once you pass the societal stage of cave, male-female relations become based on sexual attraction and sexual interaction/ability.
Get better game or stop complaining!!!
The very fact that this topic if even being discussed. The very fact that a disgruntled Chinese *man* posted this fake story as a way of venting his own inadequacy. Why can’t you see, you are the ones making yourselves out to be fools. The first step to solving your problem is to transcend about this blather you are spewing.
Just be like the Fonz, Be Cool.
It’s kind of funny that you hail from a more prosperous, better-developed country and you so easily say that Chinese people should just “be cool.”
Agree that it’s bullshit that this guy posted this, but really, when your own situation isn’t as desperate or bitter, saying that makes you look like an ass. “Let them eat cake,” etc.
I’M CHINESE WOMAN
SON OF A BITCH CHINESE MAN
CHINESE MAN IS PIG
DO YOU WANT A SPIT EVERYWHERE?
DO YOU WANT A TEN PACKS OF CIGARETTES SMOKED A DAY?
CHINESE MAN IS PIG DISGUSTING
WEN JIABAO IS A FATHER OF SMELLY DICKS
FUCKING CHINK MAN
epic cracker fail lolol
I don’t like why FDLR says but I’d guess in person he might be able to back it up? Can you? Tell us which US university you are at…
You know she is serious when the little finger doesn’t come off the shift button. You go girl!
She used caps lock
Entirely likely. I was just suggesting that she was so angry that she forgot her finger was on the shift button; thus making light of her rather outlandish comment.
This is not exactly the best blog to discuss this, but we should be more thoughtful about this sort of thing. Cries of “don’t like it? Change yourself!” are well-taken, except for one thing: you can’t change your genes. The idea that there is no biological basis for attraction is wishful politically correct thinking.
To this end, we must remember that whatever your feelings on race, there is such a thing as bio-diversity and they do vary from country to country. Chinese men don’t look the same as Western men. If physical attraction matters, and physical attraction has become huge in modern culture, then it is entirely possible that Chinese men are fundamentally disadvantaged when it comes to selective mating. Stereotypes are unfair, but they are statistically true:
* Chinese men are shorter than Western men
* Chinese men have smaller penises than Western men
* Chinese men have different facial features than Western men (might or might not matter)
* Chinese men look less “masculine” than Western men (muscle mass, body hair, etc.)
* Chinese men have different personalities than Western men (personality is not so easy to change and is probably affected by genetics)
What are their advantages? Well, in the West most of them are social and economic – Chinese men tend to be statistically harder working, better wage earners, and less violent. But in China, even these advantages don’t exist, because Western expats are easily wealthier than the average Chinese and aren’t likely to go violent in a foreign country. It is thus understandable that Chinese men would feel threatened, especially in light of the shortage of women in China.
What should be done about this? Well, to some extent nothing can be done. We are all born different, and, despite our best efforts, do not have the same mating potential. To this end, that one group of people might be more disadvantaged than another is simply the way it is and we should accept it. However, when it comes to issues that can be thought of in terms of broad and easily identifiable categories (and here is definitely one that can be – Chinese vs. foreigner), the problem transforms into a social issue, one which the government might, if under enough pressure, step in to resolve.
So what can the government do? Well, it can ban interracial relationships. However, in this liberal age that will be considered a violation of human rights and China will take enormous flak over it, so it’s unlikely. A softer approach might be to encourage Chinese women to date Chinese men, but a propaganda campaign of this sort is unlikely to work with the increasingly sophisticated urban population, who will see right through it. A return to Confucian values and arranged marriages might help things, but this would require rolling back Westernization; alternatively, expectations might themselves be changed – ie the government could promote the idea that being single is okay.
Anyways, it is inevitable that such tensions would rise in a previously (genetically) isolated society. For those who believe that the West is above such petty things, look no further than Stormfront and similar anti-miscegenation platforms extant today. The truth is, in the great game of mating there are always winners and losers, and the losers, when they perceive that their individual efforts are not having an effect, will organize to push for change. This is particularly true for a society like China’s, where it’s the men who are getting screwed, since it’s the men in China who are in control of its politics.
Until a time comes when bio-engineering (which includes plastic surgery) can resolve the intrinsic biological differences of sexual attraction, it is necessary to realize that some people are going to be left behind and that if that group becomes large enough, there will be tensions. Unfortunately, all men (and women) are not born equal with regards to sexual attraction, and there is no such thing as egalitarian mating. This may cause social upheavals later down the line,for just as political and economic hierarchies are overthrown by periodic revolutions, so too might sexual ones. In time, the situation in China could get bad enough that a xenophobic government could take power and expel all foreign elements. To prevent such a radical movement, the issue must be recognized and tackled, not brushed aside for fear of loss of face.
This is the most intelligent post I’ve seen on this thread.
I hear about 30 million Chinese men will have to stay single in the very near future due to birth control (or birth unbalance), which could trigger upheaval of your describing, and what direction will they push the change to? more gay marriage?
I hear 30million Chinese Men will get War Experience in Vietnam, Indian, and Muslim Terrorists pretty soon.
All very well…but the fact is that very few Chinese women actually date foreigners, let alone the attractive ones. All the fake article has shown is how wildly insecure Chinese men can be.
I really don’t know what they’ve got to be worried about. How often have you seen a traditionally beautiful oval-faced round-eyed, high-nosed, white-skinned, cherry-mouthed (you get the picture) Chinese girl with a foreigner? Personally (other than the girls strutting around the Gubei district of Shanghai with Japanese men twice their age in tow), I’ve NEVER seen such a couple.
so much testosterone going around, i don’t know if this is a swap of hormones in a gay swinger’s party or we are trying to accumulate enough steroids for professional athletes to inject themselves with.
Superb. This whole post is a lurker’s dream – great comedy value.
Lack of mod. This site kinda suck with all these insecure white guy running around claiming they all have asian wives.
Whats interesting is that racist comments from guys like ST is even allow and encourage show how shallow white people are.
Dont worry, by 2050, your white daughters will be submitting to Chinese men.
‘ daughters will be submitting to Chinese men’ I think this answers the question.
Yeah Ming, you proved the opposite of the point you were trying to make. I’m guessing your way of treating women as submissives might represent why you and many other men in China won’t EVER get a good woman.
On a side note, there are many countries that have been economically, politically, and culturaly powerful but that hasn’t changed the ability, or inability in this case, of their men to get white women. Keep dreaming!
No offense, but this article doesnt bother me that much. It is a bias rant that define statistic.
Think about it. How many Chinese man, and how many western man are in China today?
Western man with Chinese women is like a drop in an ocean compare to all the Chinese couples. If this article focus on oversea Chinese in the US, at least I can connect. But in China? LoL.
But I post that statement to try to piss off a few of these white supremacists that has been lurking on Chinasmack such as ST. Look at their comment…all racist bash at Chinese people in general with a serious lack of respect. So what if Chinese people are different physically and culturally? Does that give westerner a right to bash a different civilization? Chinese people are ugly? Yea…and trailer park boys are pretty. Every nations have their share of beauty and beast.
The irony, is that nobody bother to make a rant regarding white women marry to Chinese in China.
Nobody bothers to write that rant, because white women RARELY marry Chinese men.
Go back and read the comments. The first insane racist rants in this thread were aginst white people, not against Chinese. ST’s comments were pretty neutral.
My ass, China smack is full of white supremacists who say things like “Chinese” are ugly, or “Chinese” are mentally uncivilized. I am only making one counter statement. Compare to these racists, my comment is nothing. I dont know what you are pissed at, unless you are bias like them.
And white women marrying to Chinese in China is as rare as other IR in China. We are talking about China, not the US. I dont expect alot of IR, unless you count the ethnic groups, and ethnic sub groups as IR couples.
Which is why this article is pretty pointless. Any types of IR in China is literally a drop in an ocean.
PS: a surprising number of Russian women marry Chinese upper middle class in China. I dont see people rant about that.
PSS: this whole topic on the Chinese BBS forum… might be propaganda trick by the CCP to distract the population from june 4th anniversary.
Your right Ming, this is a stupid article written by a racist Chinese girl representing a minority opinion. Very few women marry foreigners, there are plenty of good looking Chinese guys (meet my Co workers if you don’t believe me; they are some shuai motherfuckers), and there are a good number of chinese men that marry foreign girls (though less so with western girls).
The reason anyone cares about the zhejiang girl is because so many people were offended by what she said that they Ren rou sou sou’d her. If more Chinese guys were like you and didn’t care about the ranting of a minority group then no one would be taking about her. However so many people were so insecure about themselves that they organized into a Cyber lynch mob. That is the story; and thus I ask you: why so much insecurity? if people know she is wrong, why not ignore her?
PS. You make a good point but why so hateful in the delivery? People would be more apt to listen to you if you could drop your wisdom without calling all the white people on the site racists. Totally kills your position.
Yes We Did! No you didn’t! You didn’t check the updates or the content of this article. It turns out it was written by a Chinese MAN!
I know I know… It’s very embarrassing :( But I can’t take it back.
As long as you’re embarassed…
Ming, what is interesting about this article is the attitudes towards miscegenation that emerge, not how extensive that miscegenation is.
The reason you missed that point is because, I get the feeling, you agree with the professor and the 17 year old. You want women to submit to Chinese men alone and are clearly uneasy about the fact some commenters here have Asian wives. Thus this article doesn’t interest you because, in the end, you consle yourself to the fact that there are so few of those relationships in comparison to ‘pure’ Chinese relationships.
As far as Chinasmack goes, I find it to mostly comprise of reasonable and measured individuals, by no means are the vast majority out and out racists. You get the odd crazy from both sides, and just have to learn to recognize them, and then laugh at their comments.
Your very ignorance of your own racist stance makes you perhaps worse than the more hilarious FDLR’ or or ‘loldongs’ and possibly even the dude that wants to kill all ‘Anglos’.
Perhaps you were trying to make some sort of ironic counter post to posts made by FDLR (I don’t know why you’re picking on the reasonable ST), but it isn’t needed and it is by no means obvious, hence I really doubt that is what you’re doing.
To yes we did:
Why insecure? Simple, It is kinda ugly when out of 10 000 couples, u see one Chinese girl who hug a white guy and think she is better then other Chinese girl. This is disrespectful toward China. And it shows that these type of women are shallow. Therefore, such self-hate act, show be discourage. However, from time to time, and extremely rarely, I do see IR couples who are legit and are mutually respectful. But those are very very rare. Usually, it involve 2 very ugly and very educated people. Therefore they look past the physical and race barrier.
To coppice:
Yea. I do agree with the professor. Chinese women and men both need to have more self pride.
More importantly, this article is statistically bias. Like I said, the IR situation in China is barely noticeable. Therefore, I am not counseling myself. It is the truth. Even in city like HK, I rarely see an IR.
lastly, the hollywood stereotype doesnt cross over to Asia. So I dont see what are these racist comment about “Chinese are ugly” or “Chinese are culturally inferior” bullcrap. Is like some white people on this site are desperately trying to find excuse to justified their superior complex. And lets be honest, if you have been to China, you will know that the top alpha male….isnt white guy… It is Chinese business elites…follow by government elites…follow by high skill workers…etc etc
PS: I do realize my comment was a racist one. I do not denie that. But it is there to counter all these white supremacists who dream that that they are better then everyone else.
I got me one of those snow bunnies. she pretty tasty.
Hey – this is all BS, the actual reality of Chinese Girls with Non-Chinese guys is just tiny percent in the world, including China. There are way more Chinese Girls with Chinese Guys than ever now, and that’s because they really do prefer to be with Chinese Men. That’s the truth in the majority, so don’t let a tiny percent drive you crazy and paranoid. Most Chinese girls love Chinese guys, and for good reason. Chinese guys are ambitious, hard working, smart, and the list goes on and on, including big dicks. So let’s all be cool here. As for you Chinese Guys out there who actually have a big dick, go out and please some Women and set a new standard for Chinese Men.
Isn’t it possible that Chinese women, nay, all of humanity, actually consider the merits of each individual they come across, rather than delude themselves with a list of prior expectations based on whatever idiotic generalisation about a nationality or race etc they may have heard?
My feeling is that the ‘good’ professor saw an attractive CHinese girl kissing a westerner on campus, and felt the Chinese race had been violated. ’s just some good ol’ fashioned racism.
A 17 year old then heard the words of this professor, apparently a respectable man, and felt all the hotties were being taken away by westerners. Naturally he’d want the hotties, so he was a bit angry by this news.
Note he seems to be more critical of Chinese women whose reputation he apparently wanted to ‘tarnish’, than of westerners. Is it possible then that the 17 year old boy is actually more reasonable here than a university professor?
Well, even in America some university professors deny the holocaust. That a teenager can be more reasonable isn’t news.
Show me a Chinese guy witha big dick? Define “big” please. An ant has a big dick to a flea.
Well then my friend, look no further than the dick which was plunged in your mom 9 months before your birth. harhar
Lets be realistic here. Chinese men are not attractive. Most and I do mean the good majority of Chinese men are unattractive, overworked, dorky and generally unappealing. This is true not only China but also in the US, Australia, Europe and elsewhere. Add to the fact that most of them are also short, skinny and uncharismatic and you’ve got a big problem. To make matters worse, most Chinese men have at least one personality deficiency. By deficiency I mean things like smoking 10 packs a day, violent temper, video game addict, alcoholic, unhygienic, spoiled and pampered, weakling and coward, shy nerd etc. Chinese women are all too familiar with “those types” and simply wish for better mating options. Dont go around telling me that a certain Chinese actor/model is tall and attractive and therefore im wrong. Cause he doesnt represent the majority of Chinese men. 99% of Chinese men are complete pussies.
Chinese women would rather go for an “exotic” trailer trash white guy whos at the very least masculine, charismatic, confident and not the coward and dork that most Chinese men are. Simply put, Chinese men are at the bottom of the barrel in attraction. In the view of many Chinese women, anything is an improvement over Chinese men. Whenever you go to an asian forum. The girls always talk about so and so Korean male celebrity or so and so Japanese rocker. They never ever talk about Chinese men. Why is that? Not even the Chinese girls do.
Its not so much as Chinese women being sell outs as it is Chinese men being unattractive. Improve yourselves before you whine and bitch about the women. Oh yeah, I also know this Chinese guy who many other Chinese people claim to be attractive. He’s 6ft tall yet weighs like a hundred pounds, has a flat nose and looks like a monkey. If thats considered attractive for a Chinese man, then its no wonder why foreign men feel so confident in China.
You are supposing that the Chinese’s “distribution” are so skewed that they are basically “not human.” That’s basically what you are saying. A group consist of nothing but “nerds” and “freaks.” This is a nice tactic! With this line of attack I can basically say anything about anything!
As for the nerds… So your worldview basically consists of jr. high politics???
Realistic? Pfftt, more like super moronic!
Preach it brother!
I can see it now, my dream is coming true! In the not so distance future…the world will be populated (or depopulated?) by descendants of Realistic and Chinese females. Thus, leading a total de-evolution of the human race. And I, cpt. Absurdity, being the only immortal being, shall become Lord Absurdity! Dominion over a bunch of re..mentally handicapped sub-human-de-evolved-butt-monkies!
BUTT_REALISTICS FTW!
You sure know how to judge men. So tell me, what kind of men are considered attractive to whitey fags like you?
Look at all the butt hurt Chinese men in here. Face it, not even your own women respect you. Why should they?
even if all 150 million american, white black latino asian… all come to china and marry locals… you guys are still a minority. I dont see what you are so “proud” of. Considering foreigners = 0.01% in China. Where is your “realistic” analysis?
Your reading comprehension sucks. The point im trying to make is that anyone including foreign trash is an improvement over the standard Chinese man. Chinese men are emasculate and meek. Thats why foreign men are more respected in China then Chinese men. There are a lot of Chinese women who would prefer a foreigner to a Chinese man. But as you mentioned, Chinas foreign population is tiny.
Hey listen up white boy. Know what’s going down in whiteyland? That’s right, the non-White Hispanics, Blacks and Chinese are taking over White America. North Africans and Arabs are fcuking their way into Europe.
See Obama? One-drop rule baby! In a few more years, white and nerdy wankers like you can kiss your race goodbye. :)
Too bad im not a white guy. Im not even a guy. Bash whitey all you want, I dont give a shit. Another reason why Chinese men are disrespected all around the world is their attitude. They act so tough when anonymous or in groups, and get so offended over tiny matters. Yet are complete pussies in real life. Example: YOU.
Grow a set of balls and quit bashing whitey just because they actually have a pair.
Pussay? Which is why you’re venting out online, eh? Now that’s rich. You’re the one to talk about growing a pair, especially when you’re claiming that you have a vagina. LOOL
Im not the one venting online. Take a good look in the mirror to see whos being the angry cry baby here. I made an honest comment on how unattractive Chinese men are to the rest of the world. Any mature person would have either agreed to some of my points or disagreed and explained why in a calmer manner.
Instead you retaliate by throwing a typical chinese man temper tantrum. Not surprising consider your account name is “Fcuk Laowais”. Did something happen? Did some laowai kick your scrawny emasculate 100 pound ass and take the girl for the 12th time? I can already picture it. You didnt even throw a punch at the laowai. All you did was cry and scream “its not fair” while he was beating you up. Thats what usually happens whenever a Chinese man fights. Dont cry though. You still have world of warcraft and internet message boards to vent your frustration at.
You pussy. Grow a set of balls. And maybe, just maybe a girl will actually learn to respect you.
LOL all this bitching about “Chinese men this, Chinese men that”. If that ain’t venting, then I don’t know what is. Don’t be hating just because Chinese men got more game than you can handle.
See, thing is, its hard for people to take stupid laowais like you seriously. Simply put, you failed life, which is why you live a sad life of bitching and can’t cut it in either your native country or China. After all, that’s why you’re here LOL. You can’t read/write Chinese for shit so you stick with English-language blogs hahahahaa. I can only imagine, you walking down the street in some Chinese metropolis with scores of people looking at you like some retarded SB from the circus.
Reality is, you are jealous of the Chinese man because we are inherently superior to your kind. Over in the West, we are considered the “model minority”. While over in the East, we can fit in easily with the local population. I know, truth hurts. And before you start going off on your penis lecture, let me remind you to grow back that dick that your doctor accidentally cut off during childhood circumcision. LULZ
yo there are MANY good Chinese men. China is a developing country. No, not all Chinese men are cowards. You have aroused my challenging attitude to you, though I will hold it in so that I don’t go overboard. I am a Chinese guy, and therefore you can understand why I’m kinda riled up. Chinese can improve themselves, but we’re not naturally unattractive. I have already done what I can to stand up, BRAVE!
What a lost of time.
The whole discussion is overrated. Compared to the massive no. of Chinese the few laowais in China count nothing, not even 1%!
And if the laowais wouldn’t be there anymore, some rich Chinese would be changing their wifes a little bit more frequently, that’s all. No changes for the other 99% of Chinese males.
As any other country in the world China also needs foreigners in business and education. If Chinese treat foreigners badly, the news will go round the world and it won’t be good for the image of China.
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