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> <channel><title>Comments on: Bus 44: Based Upon A True Story</title> <atom:link href="http://www.chinasmack.com/videos/bus-44-based-upon-true-story/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.chinasmack.com/videos/bus-44-based-upon-true-story/</link> <description>Hot internet stories, pictures, &#38; videos in China. What’s popular, scandalous, or shocking that have the Chinese talking.</description> <lastBuildDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:01:49 -0800</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: Bus 44 &#124; woodsb.net - Blog d'un français en Chine</title><link>http://www.chinasmack.com/videos/bus-44-based-upon-true-story/#comment-31623</link> <dc:creator>Bus 44 &#124; woodsb.net - Blog d'un français en Chine</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 15:22:05 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.chinasmack.com/?p=7822#comment-31623</guid> <description>[...] est assez forte, et les réactions sur l&#8217;Internet chinois sont nombreuses (voire l&#8217;article sur chinaSMACK) car elle montre une partie vraiment sombre de la nature [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] est assez forte, et les réactions sur l&#8217;Internet chinois sont nombreuses (voire l&#8217;article sur chinaSMACK) car elle montre une partie vraiment sombre de la nature [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: D</title><link>http://www.chinasmack.com/videos/bus-44-based-upon-true-story/#comment-27513</link> <dc:creator>D</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 13:52:42 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.chinasmack.com/?p=7822#comment-27513</guid> <description>WTF are you talking about, if the plane has crashed, how did the story surfaced? Idiot.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WTF are you talking about, if the plane has crashed, how did the story surfaced? Idiot.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: nausicasia</title><link>http://www.chinasmack.com/videos/bus-44-based-upon-true-story/#comment-27120</link> <dc:creator>nausicasia</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 18:03:31 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.chinasmack.com/?p=7822#comment-27120</guid> <description>This is funny: Kai and Blue-Water have so much time to spend online to talk about some fictions movies... What a waste of time.Inbetween I went to Nepal and Tibet with my Girlfriend, and almost forgot about bus 44 movie topic.I was arrested in quarantine during transit at Lhasa airport with 9 passengers because I had 38.6 fever on board due to very simple throat infection. 9 passenger were arrested with me, because I maybe was contageous, maybe I had H1N1, but surely because the Lhasa sanitary authorities can get money from the government if they keep more and more people in quaratine for 48 hours at the Gongkar District Quarantine Hostel paid by government.H1N1 quarantine in Shanghai only arrest people with fever, not bother all passengers 3 seat raws arround one sick passenger.Chinese passenger arrested with me due to my high fever were angry (sorry for this my fellow passengers) but agreed on the idea that local Lhasa sanitary inspectors got some money from &quot;hostel and restaurants expenses&quot; from arresting many many people &quot;just to check&quot; H1N1. The more people are under quarantine, the more hotel and restaurant expenses they get.They said : &quot;it may be true but it&#039;s like this, the system is so, we cannot change&quot;. Then &quot;the Sanitary inspectors are very nice, but let it be, we cannot change&quot;. The true think is that the sanitary inspectors were very nice to us during the quarantine.WHY NO ONE DARE TO TELL WHAT IS WRONG, AND ALL &quot;LET IT BE, WE CAN NOT CHANGE IT&quot; LIKE THIS ? ? ?Online chatting and sharing is nice, but not sufficient enough. I saw to many people disagree and saying &quot;we cannot change the processes it&#039;s like this&quot;.Talking online is nice anyway.I leave the platform , because my speach is out of the topic of bus 44 anyway.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is funny: Kai and Blue-Water have so much time to spend online to talk about some fictions movies&#8230; What a waste of time.</p><p>Inbetween I went to Nepal and Tibet with my Girlfriend, and almost forgot about bus 44 movie topic.</p><p>I was arrested in quarantine during transit at Lhasa airport with 9 passengers because I had 38.6 fever on board due to very simple throat infection. 9 passenger were arrested with me, because I maybe was contageous, maybe I had H1N1, but surely because the Lhasa sanitary authorities can get money from the government if they keep more and more people in quaratine for 48 hours at the Gongkar District Quarantine Hostel paid by government.</p><p>H1N1 quarantine in Shanghai only arrest people with fever, not bother all passengers 3 seat raws arround one sick passenger.</p><p>Chinese passenger arrested with me due to my high fever were angry (sorry for this my fellow passengers) but agreed on the idea that local Lhasa sanitary inspectors got some money from &#8220;hostel and restaurants expenses&#8221; from arresting many many people &#8220;just to check&#8221; H1N1. The more people are under quarantine, the more hotel and restaurant expenses they get.</p><p>They said : &#8220;it may be true but it&#8217;s like this, the system is so, we cannot change&#8221;. Then &#8220;the Sanitary inspectors are very nice, but let it be, we cannot change&#8221;. The true think is that the sanitary inspectors were very nice to us during the quarantine.</p><p>WHY NO ONE DARE TO TELL WHAT IS WRONG, AND ALL &#8220;LET IT BE, WE CAN NOT CHANGE IT&#8221; LIKE THIS ? ? ?</p><p>Online chatting and sharing is nice, but not sufficient enough. I saw to many people disagree and saying &#8220;we cannot change the processes it&#8217;s like this&#8221;.</p><p>Talking online is nice anyway.</p><p>I leave the platform , because my speach is out of the topic of bus 44 anyway.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: little Alex</title><link>http://www.chinasmack.com/videos/bus-44-based-upon-true-story/#comment-26388</link> <dc:creator>little Alex</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 10:54:10 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.chinasmack.com/?p=7822#comment-26388</guid> <description>Well, on a plane there&#039;s the issue that if you break a window or accidentally open a door in a struggle, everyone would die from the loss of air pressure or something. And the passengers presumably didn&#039;t know what the hijackers were planning to do.And on the plane that was targetting Washington, the passengers voted to crash the plane so that it wouldn&#039;t hit Washington. I&#039;d say that&#039;s pretty brave.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, on a plane there&#8217;s the issue that if you break a window or accidentally open a door in a struggle, everyone would die from the loss of air pressure or something. And the passengers presumably didn&#8217;t know what the hijackers were planning to do.</p><p>And on the plane that was targetting Washington, the passengers voted to crash the plane so that it wouldn&#8217;t hit Washington. I&#8217;d say that&#8217;s pretty brave.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Frog</title><link>http://www.chinasmack.com/videos/bus-44-based-upon-true-story/#comment-26324</link> <dc:creator>Frog</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 09:22:39 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.chinasmack.com/?p=7822#comment-26324</guid> <description>It is a universal theme.BUT, if sure is something that needs a good hard ponder here in China.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a universal theme.</p><p>BUT, if sure is something that needs a good hard ponder here in China.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Kai</title><link>http://www.chinasmack.com/videos/bus-44-based-upon-true-story/#comment-26258</link> <dc:creator>Kai</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 12:00:50 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.chinasmack.com/?p=7822#comment-26258</guid> <description>For links, use HTML. Here&#039;s a sample, just replace the [ with &lt;:[a href=&quot;URL&quot;]link text[/a]&lt;blockquote&gt;Put simply, some people are so eager to be politically correct, they forgo being honest about negative aspects of a culture.&lt;/blockquote&gt;This is not about being politically correct, this is about being rational. You have to first make a really good and persuasive argument that a negative aspect is largely unique to that specific culture you&#039;re trying to criticize. Bystander effect is not unique to Chinese culture, and is, in fact, prevalent in all cultures. Many of the best sociological and psychological experiments on this aspect of human behavior were done in the West.&lt;blockquote&gt;You can argue that all humans are basically the same, but you CAN’T argue that culture is.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Not a single person is arguing this. Don&#039;t create straw men.&lt;blockquote&gt;But art is about the REACTION. You can’t tell someone what they are ’supposed’ to think when they see it. The fact so many people have come to this point is significant enough.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Asis, the person here telling others what they are &quot;supposed&quot; to think is blue water. Please review the discussion. The people rejecting his prescription were Belle and others, including myself. I even explicitly said blue water is free to have his own subjective interpretation but our objection to him was specifically because he was denigrating other people (including the official synopsis, critics, and the director himself) for having a different reaction than him. The fact that so many people come to the point that this film transcends race and culture is as at least as significant as your desired point in agreement with blue water. I understand what you&#039;re driving at, but you&#039;re again fighting the wrong battle.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For links, use HTML. Here&#8217;s a sample, just replace the [ with &lt;:</p><p>[a href="URL"]link text[/a]</p><blockquote><p>Put simply, some people are so eager to be politically correct, they forgo being honest about negative aspects of a culture.</p></blockquote><p>This is not about being politically correct, this is about being rational. You have to first make a really good and persuasive argument that a negative aspect is largely unique to that specific culture you&#8217;re trying to criticize. Bystander effect is not unique to Chinese culture, and is, in fact, prevalent in all cultures. Many of the best sociological and psychological experiments on this aspect of human behavior were done in the West.</p><blockquote><p>You can argue that all humans are basically the same, but you CAN’T argue that culture is.</p></blockquote><p>Not a single person is arguing this. Don&#8217;t create straw men.</p><blockquote><p>But art is about the REACTION. You can’t tell someone what they are ’supposed’ to think when they see it. The fact so many people have come to this point is significant enough.</p></blockquote><p>Asis, the person here telling others what they are &#8220;supposed&#8221; to think is blue water. Please review the discussion. The people rejecting his prescription were Belle and others, including myself. I even explicitly said blue water is free to have his own subjective interpretation but our objection to him was specifically because he was denigrating other people (including the official synopsis, critics, and the director himself) for having a different reaction than him. The fact that so many people come to the point that this film transcends race and culture is as at least as significant as your desired point in agreement with blue water. I understand what you&#8217;re driving at, but you&#8217;re again fighting the wrong battle.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Asis</title><link>http://www.chinasmack.com/videos/bus-44-based-upon-true-story/#comment-26253</link> <dc:creator>Asis</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 09:56:42 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.chinasmack.com/?p=7822#comment-26253</guid> <description>A few notes:It was an accident that this comment should be under blue water&#039;sI meant &#039;culture IS&#039;, not ISN&#039;T.I don&#039;t know how to show the link... sorry.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few notes:</p><p>It was an accident that this comment should be under blue water&#8217;s</p><p>I meant &#8216;culture IS&#8217;, not ISN&#8217;T.</p><p>I don&#8217;t know how to show the link&#8230; sorry.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Asis</title><link>http://www.chinasmack.com/videos/bus-44-based-upon-true-story/#comment-26251</link> <dc:creator>Asis</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 09:48:38 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.chinasmack.com/?p=7822#comment-26251</guid> <description>Hope readers find time to read this article which I feel relates directly to a lot of comments on this website.lattenomics.wordpress.com/2007/12/10/no-past-to-speak-of-a-story-of-infant-rape-in-south-africa/Put simply, some people are so eager to be politically correct, they forgo being honest about negative aspects of a culture.You can argue that all humans are basically the same, but you CAN&#039;T argue that culture isn&#039;t.Also, for those arguing that the director wasn&#039;t intending to target Chinese apathy... fair enough. But art is about the REACTION. You can&#039;t tell someone what they are &#039;supposed&#039; to think when they see it. The fact so many people have come to this point is significant enough.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hope readers find time to read this article which I feel relates directly to a lot of comments on this website.</p><p>lattenomics.wordpress.com/2007/12/10/no-past-to-speak-of-a-story-of-infant-rape-in-south-africa/</p><p>Put simply, some people are so eager to be politically correct, they forgo being honest about negative aspects of a culture.</p><p>You can argue that all humans are basically the same, but you CAN&#8217;T argue that culture isn&#8217;t.</p><p>Also, for those arguing that the director wasn&#8217;t intending to target Chinese apathy&#8230; fair enough. But art is about the REACTION. You can&#8217;t tell someone what they are &#8217;supposed&#8217; to think when they see it. The fact so many people have come to this point is significant enough.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Kai</title><link>http://www.chinasmack.com/videos/bus-44-based-upon-true-story/#comment-26240</link> <dc:creator>Kai</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 05:53:27 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.chinasmack.com/?p=7822#comment-26240</guid> <description>blue water,&lt;blockquote&gt;First you call me names, now you try to smother me in drivel and inanities. This is no way to debate an issue. &lt;/blockquote&gt;No, misrepresenting and evading other people&#039;s objections is no way to debate an issue. More importantly, you need to understand what exactly the issue IS before you debate the issue. As it is, you have repeatedly failed to understand (or choose to ignore) what the issue is that Belle, others, and myself have taken up with you.&lt;blockquote&gt;I won’t resort to name calling.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Belle and all sort of clowns&lt;/blockquote&gt;Interesting.&lt;blockquote&gt;I’ll try again to explain why I believe the movie, “Bus #44,” has a particular application to contemporary Chinese society.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Not necessary. No one is disagreeing with you that this movie can be applied to contemporary Chinese society. Not Belle, not myself, nor any of the other &quot;clowns&quot; you saw fit to misrepresent.&lt;blockquote&gt;Unfortunately, Belle and all sort of clowns came out trying to impose some form of “Chinese political correctness” on me. After one rebuttal, she and others scampered back under a rock. This is precisely the kind of behavior I dislike in Chinese society.Now she has to rely on a foreign white American to make noise to save her face.&lt;/blockquote&gt;I&#039;m sorry, where did you get the idea that any of these people were Chinese or foreign white American missionaries?&lt;blockquote&gt;I’m a nationalist. I want to see the Chinese nation rise and display its unique genius. However, this means that Chinese must be able to face and analyze their flaws and weaknesses. There is no room for “saving face” or allowing whites to dictate what’s good for China and what’s not.&lt;/blockquote&gt;You don&#039;t read, do you? No one is disagreeing with the idea that Chinese (or anyone) must face and analyze their flaws and weaknesses. No one is trying to &quot;save face&quot; much less &quot;allowing whites to dictate what&#039;s good for China and what&#039;s not.&quot;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>blue water,</p><blockquote><p>First you call me names, now you try to smother me in drivel and inanities. This is no way to debate an issue.</p></blockquote><p>No, misrepresenting and evading other people&#8217;s objections is no way to debate an issue. More importantly, you need to understand what exactly the issue IS before you debate the issue. As it is, you have repeatedly failed to understand (or choose to ignore) what the issue is that Belle, others, and myself have taken up with you.</p><blockquote><p>I won’t resort to name calling.</p></blockquote><blockquote><p>Belle and all sort of clowns</p></blockquote><p>Interesting.</p><blockquote><p>I’ll try again to explain why I believe the movie, “Bus #44,” has a particular application to contemporary Chinese society.</p></blockquote><p>Not necessary. No one is disagreeing with you that this movie can be applied to contemporary Chinese society. Not Belle, not myself, nor any of the other &#8220;clowns&#8221; you saw fit to misrepresent.</p><blockquote><p>Unfortunately, Belle and all sort of clowns came out trying to impose some form of “Chinese political correctness” on me. After one rebuttal, she and others scampered back under a rock. This is precisely the kind of behavior I dislike in Chinese society.</p><p>Now she has to rely on a foreign white American to make noise to save her face.</p></blockquote><p>I&#8217;m sorry, where did you get the idea that any of these people were Chinese or foreign white American missionaries?</p><blockquote><p>I’m a nationalist. I want to see the Chinese nation rise and display its unique genius. However, this means that Chinese must be able to face and analyze their flaws and weaknesses. There is no room for “saving face” or allowing whites to dictate what’s good for China and what’s not.</p></blockquote><p>You don&#8217;t read, do you? No one is disagreeing with the idea that Chinese (or anyone) must face and analyze their flaws and weaknesses. No one is trying to &#8220;save face&#8221; much less &#8220;allowing whites to dictate what&#8217;s good for China and what&#8217;s not.&#8221;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: blue water</title><link>http://www.chinasmack.com/videos/bus-44-based-upon-true-story/#comment-26233</link> <dc:creator>blue water</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 04:58:30 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.chinasmack.com/?p=7822#comment-26233</guid> <description>@ JamesonMy bad.    Of course he&#039;s an American!!(where do they find these people?)Dayyan Eng, known as Wu Shixian in China  was born in Taiwan in 1975.Majored in directing, Beijing Film Academy, China.Majored in film arts, University of Washington, USADirector is a Chinese-American filmmaker.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Jameson</p><p>My bad.    Of course he&#8217;s an American!!</p><p>(where do they find these people?)</p><p>Dayyan Eng, known as Wu Shixian in China  was born in Taiwan in 1975.</p><p>Majored in directing, Beijing Film Academy, China.</p><p>Majored in film arts, University of Washington, USA</p><p>Director is a Chinese-American filmmaker.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss><!--
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