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> <channel><title>Comments on: Zhejiang Young Man&#8217;s Suicide Jump Broadcast By News</title> <atom:link href="http://www.chinasmack.com/videos/zhejiang-young-mans-suicide-jump-broadcast-by-news/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.chinasmack.com/videos/zhejiang-young-mans-suicide-jump-broadcast-by-news/</link> <description>Hot internet stories, pictures, &#38; videos in China. What’s popular, scandalous, or shocking that have the Chinese talking.</description> <lastBuildDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 07:19:43 -0800</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: Suicides in China &#171; Miah in China</title><link>http://www.chinasmack.com/videos/zhejiang-young-mans-suicide-jump-broadcast-by-news/#comment-32006</link> <dc:creator>Suicides in China &#171; Miah in China</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 16:20:41 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.chinasmack.com/?p=5356#comment-32006</guid> <description>[...] in China   ChinaSMACK carried a video from a Chinese news station about a student (it doesn’t say it’s a student, but that’s the [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in China   ChinaSMACK carried a video from a Chinese news station about a student (it doesn’t say it’s a student, but that’s the [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: ~YuUkI~</title><link>http://www.chinasmack.com/videos/zhejiang-young-mans-suicide-jump-broadcast-by-news/#comment-31416</link> <dc:creator>~YuUkI~</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 02:50:27 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.chinasmack.com/?p=5356#comment-31416</guid> <description>omg....head first. That must have hurt bad.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>omg&#8230;.head first. That must have hurt bad.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Romalic Socelez</title><link>http://www.chinasmack.com/videos/zhejiang-young-mans-suicide-jump-broadcast-by-news/#comment-30997</link> <dc:creator>Romalic Socelez</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 18:51:41 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.chinasmack.com/?p=5356#comment-30997</guid> <description>Put out enough slop the swine come running..
Only a swineherder would post this news without regard
that the poor soul&#039;s family could be watching..They should be fined heavily and their license pulled if they commit such a perfidy against societal values again..To Hell with them!
adamdbach@yahoo.com</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Put out enough slop the swine come running..<br
/> Only a swineherder would post this news without regard<br
/> that the poor soul&#8217;s family could be watching..They should be fined heavily and their license pulled if they commit such a perfidy against societal values again..To Hell with them!<br
/> <a
href="mailto:adamdbach@yahoo.com">adamdbach@yahoo.com</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Den</title><link>http://www.chinasmack.com/videos/zhejiang-young-mans-suicide-jump-broadcast-by-news/#comment-30977</link> <dc:creator>Den</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 14:19:49 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.chinasmack.com/?p=5356#comment-30977</guid> <description>Anyone who claims suicide victims are actually &quot;murderers&quot; and have &quot;broken the law&quot; from killing themselves, are worthless and don&#039;t belong alive.  Goddamn but I hate you twisted pricks.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone who claims suicide victims are actually &#8220;murderers&#8221; and have &#8220;broken the law&#8221; from killing themselves, are worthless and don&#8217;t belong alive.  Goddamn but I hate you twisted pricks.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Fuller</title><link>http://www.chinasmack.com/videos/zhejiang-young-mans-suicide-jump-broadcast-by-news/#comment-18540</link> <dc:creator>Fuller</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 10:45:24 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.chinasmack.com/?p=5356#comment-18540</guid> <description>Well said Smickno, I agree.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said Smickno, I agree.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Teacher in China</title><link>http://www.chinasmack.com/videos/zhejiang-young-mans-suicide-jump-broadcast-by-news/#comment-18539</link> <dc:creator>Teacher in China</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 10:44:44 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.chinasmack.com/?p=5356#comment-18539</guid> <description>I see your point Rick.  However, again, since we don&#039;t know this guy I don&#039;t think we can make those assumptions.  If he has almost completely lost his mind, who knows what reason he has for choosing to jump off a building?  Maybe he has a small part of him that thinks on the way down God will grant him the ability to fly or something.  Ridiculous example, I know - I&#039;m just saying, trying to rationalize or condemn anyone in this situation is fruitless.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see your point Rick.  However, again, since we don&#8217;t know this guy I don&#8217;t think we can make those assumptions.  If he has almost completely lost his mind, who knows what reason he has for choosing to jump off a building?  Maybe he has a small part of him that thinks on the way down God will grant him the ability to fly or something.  Ridiculous example, I know &#8211; I&#8217;m just saying, trying to rationalize or condemn anyone in this situation is fruitless.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: milkfiddle</title><link>http://www.chinasmack.com/videos/zhejiang-young-mans-suicide-jump-broadcast-by-news/#comment-18458</link> <dc:creator>milkfiddle</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 16:06:44 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.chinasmack.com/?p=5356#comment-18458</guid> <description>With such heavy censorship in China it makes sense for the government to show shocking scenes such as this just to take the edge off everything else that is going wrong. There were rumours about corruption within the local government but now everybody is talking about this, I love it when a plan comes together.
Poor bugger he did nt plan this.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With such heavy censorship in China it makes sense for the government to show shocking scenes such as this just to take the edge off everything else that is going wrong. There were rumours about corruption within the local government but now everybody is talking about this, I love it when a plan comes together.<br
/> Poor bugger he did nt plan this.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Rick in China</title><link>http://www.chinasmack.com/videos/zhejiang-young-mans-suicide-jump-broadcast-by-news/#comment-18306</link> <dc:creator>Rick in China</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 03:27:51 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.chinasmack.com/?p=5356#comment-18306</guid> <description>Jumpers are thrusting their issues into public, Teacher. How long do you think he stayed up there? They had enough time to assemble news, police, etc...and they aren&#039;t exactly ultra-fast to respond here from my experiences. People who want to kill themselves without thrusting their issues in a public place choose another method of suicide - not jumping from a public place in the daytime, while taking so long to &#039;finalize&#039; the decision.I understand why you feel sympathy for his lack of character or ability to cope. I shouldn&#039;t say I feel no sympathy exclusively, perhaps it is more-so overshadowed by disgust in his selfishness and lack of respect or appreciation for the value of life.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jumpers are thrusting their issues into public, Teacher. How long do you think he stayed up there? They had enough time to assemble news, police, etc&#8230;and they aren&#8217;t exactly ultra-fast to respond here from my experiences. People who want to kill themselves without thrusting their issues in a public place choose another method of suicide &#8211; not jumping from a public place in the daytime, while taking so long to &#8216;finalize&#8217; the decision.</p><p>I understand why you feel sympathy for his lack of character or ability to cope. I shouldn&#8217;t say I feel no sympathy exclusively, perhaps it is more-so overshadowed by disgust in his selfishness and lack of respect or appreciation for the value of life.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Celkian</title><link>http://www.chinasmack.com/videos/zhejiang-young-mans-suicide-jump-broadcast-by-news/#comment-18284</link> <dc:creator>Celkian</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 19:10:18 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.chinasmack.com/?p=5356#comment-18284</guid> <description>If you look at someone as though they are like yourself and judge their actions through that then you get the whole &quot;Everyone has problems, it will be okay, life can get better&quot;. If you are saying that it doesn&#039;t matter, it was his choice and its no loss than i have a hard time believing you are empathizing with the man. The first way might help the man and it would be the best thing you could do in that situation and it would be the best thing to do before that situation so how it is not the right way to look at after the situation?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you look at someone as though they are like yourself and judge their actions through that then you get the whole &#8220;Everyone has problems, it will be okay, life can get better&#8221;. If you are saying that it doesn&#8217;t matter, it was his choice and its no loss than i have a hard time believing you are empathizing with the man. The first way might help the man and it would be the best thing you could do in that situation and it would be the best thing to do before that situation so how it is not the right way to look at after the situation?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: smickno</title><link>http://www.chinasmack.com/videos/zhejiang-young-mans-suicide-jump-broadcast-by-news/#comment-18234</link> <dc:creator>smickno</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 14:12:18 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.chinasmack.com/?p=5356#comment-18234</guid> <description>@krdrI full agree with you when you said that suicide isn&#039;t going to solve anything and will bring more problems to his family.  I assume that what you meant by more problems is that his loved ones will be terribly sad, and usually, they would go on a road of self-blame, like, if only we had done this, if only we had not said that, if only ....the list goes on.  But the fact remains that the suicide victim wasn&#039;t thinking rationally.  If he could think about how his family would suffer, then he was rational and wouldn&#039;t do it in the first place.As for serial killers, if they break the law, they are guilty as far as the law is concerned.  Even the act of suicide is murder and the suicide victim has broken the law by killing someone (himself), although I am not sure if this is the case under Chinese law.  Nevertheless, for both serial killers and suicide victims, I would use the reasons of external enovironmental conditioning and genetics to explain why people behave in the way they do.  This is not to say that they are not wrong to commit such acts, but rather it helps at least me to understand their actions and to be a little more sympathetic.  This is the approach which counsellors adopt when trying to help people with suicidal tendencies, and in the other case, when rehabilitating &quot;criminals&quot;And yes, people have been talked out of committing suicides before...provided whoever talked the would-be suicide victim out of it is a trained professional, or he somehow said the right thing.  But as I said, no amount of yelling by any number of people to simply tell him to not jump will make his see the light of day.  You&#039;ve got to say something which must make sense to him.  I find it hard to agree with your statement that &quot;Problem is here that no one really wanted to help, but just watched.&quot;  I think that they simply did not know how to help and what to do, other than yelling.  But they meant well anyway.And yes, you are right. Some people had been talked out of jumping before and that is why I said if I were there, I would surely try to talk him out of it.  I am not sure if I will press the right buttons, but I will try.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@krdr</p><p>I full agree with you when you said that suicide isn&#8217;t going to solve anything and will bring more problems to his family.  I assume that what you meant by more problems is that his loved ones will be terribly sad, and usually, they would go on a road of self-blame, like, if only we had done this, if only we had not said that, if only &#8230;.the list goes on.  But the fact remains that the suicide victim wasn&#8217;t thinking rationally.  If he could think about how his family would suffer, then he was rational and wouldn&#8217;t do it in the first place.</p><p>As for serial killers, if they break the law, they are guilty as far as the law is concerned.  Even the act of suicide is murder and the suicide victim has broken the law by killing someone (himself), although I am not sure if this is the case under Chinese law.  Nevertheless, for both serial killers and suicide victims, I would use the reasons of external enovironmental conditioning and genetics to explain why people behave in the way they do.  This is not to say that they are not wrong to commit such acts, but rather it helps at least me to understand their actions and to be a little more sympathetic.  This is the approach which counsellors adopt when trying to help people with suicidal tendencies, and in the other case, when rehabilitating &#8220;criminals&#8221;</p><p>And yes, people have been talked out of committing suicides before&#8230;provided whoever talked the would-be suicide victim out of it is a trained professional, or he somehow said the right thing.  But as I said, no amount of yelling by any number of people to simply tell him to not jump will make his see the light of day.  You&#8217;ve got to say something which must make sense to him.  I find it hard to agree with your statement that &#8220;Problem is here that no one really wanted to help, but just watched.&#8221;  I think that they simply did not know how to help and what to do, other than yelling.  But they meant well anyway.</p><p>And yes, you are right. Some people had been talked out of jumping before and that is why I said if I were there, I would surely try to talk him out of it.  I am not sure if I will press the right buttons, but I will try.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss><!--
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