65-Year-Old Takes Son to Court, Wants 2000 RMB Each Month

65-Year-Old Takes Son to Court, Wants 2000 RMB Each Month

Recently, a 65-year-old man took his son to court in Haikou, claiming that his son ignores him, and that he needs financial help. He asked the court to require his son to give him 2000 RMB each month. The son said that he is economically worse off than his father, claiming that the man has a steady pension, which provide him with around 2700 RMB per month. The court denied the man’s request, but did ask the son to visit his father more often. Netizens thought the man’s requests were ridiculous, saying “What a great father. He doesn’t care about his family and he’s even asking his son for money.”

Source: Netease

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  • At first glance, a story like this may elicit some hasty and superficial emotional reactions.

    Upon further contemplation, it sinks in how much destitution there is – not only in China, but globally; under the current monetary paradigm.

    Economy is placed ahead of ecology, and scientists’ research and agendas must mirror this global ‘value’ (yes, global – not only China, again) unless they wish to be muzzled by their government for conducting research which supports the improvement of ecology to the decimation of the economy…

    In relation to ‘this’ story, it’s pitiable that we, as a human race, still have pockets (deeper than we may wish to believe) of the population who suffer from such a low quality of life, lack of nutrition and inability to dig themselves out of this systemic violence. In this story, both the son and the father are barely managing and the economic reality, which is an illusion, causes such unnecessary rifts between those who should be dearest relatives.

    Technology has existed and is constantly emerging which could create an abundance of sustainable water, food and energy.

    The world’s population, by and large, are so wrapped up in satiating their appetite for consumerism and fleeting entertainment that true solutions to a paradigm shift away from non-sustainable and non-ecological practices are not being examined en-masse; the Global Value Disorder.

    I anticipate a time when money will no longer dominate our lives or enslave our potential.

    We have the right to reject and refuse any social anesthetics which, in centuries to come, may be exposed as having been quite anti-social in their design.


    • Money is great

      Also, humanity has never had it so good, look at any point in history, any point at all pre 1900 and compare to today. poor people are still poor, the difference is poor people today will still live to 70 And most likely have a mobile phone, and yes, even in deepest darkest africa, even in the midst of strife and war, poor people still have phones and lots of things.

      • Vance

        Yea. Here in the US there has been a “war on poverty” since 1965. They have spent trillions of dollars on programs designed to “end poverty”. The percentage of people in poverty today is almost exactly the same as it was then. No matter what system you use or who runs it, there will always be a certain part of the population on the lowest rung of the ladder. It is better to lift the whole ladder instead of trying to squash the ladder to on rung. You may be right that some technological shift in the future may render the current economic setup obsolete, but people aren’t just going to become all warm and fuzzy one day and decide they don’t need all that stuff because someone else is unable to also buy it.

        • lacompacida

          Guess what. If we use the upper limit of 25th percentile as the poverty line, 1/4 of the population will always be poor. In the 1920’s, the “poor” didn’t have a car, a fridge a TV, and a washing machine.

          • donscarletti

            They were lucky to have shoes and clean water.

            The definition of poverty changes year by year, today’s poor have lives like the upper middle class a century ago. Comparing percentages and claiming nothing changes like Vance did is simply disingenuous.

            Even if society guaranteed every individual an equal income, while we still have freedom to spend and consume according to our own wisdom, there will always be a poorest section.

      • Thanks for taking the time to reply and share your honest feelings, Mig. Nice to meet you.

        I’ve heard and been exposed to similar arguments and beliefs that you’ve put forward.

        With respect, “No”, money is not great. I wish I had the time and energy to cite all of the reasons why I believe that quite passionately.

        You must know by now, as I do, that we will not change each other’s minds with regards to this subject – after closely examining our respective posts. At the moment, I’m not in your world of thinking, and you’re not in mine.

        However, having engaged in discussion today and yesterday was better than not having done so.

        I wish you well.


    • lacompacida

      Some how resources (food, water, air, clothing, means of transportation, entertainment, education resources, etc. etc. etc.) will have to be shared. If we always want more of these resources, whether we use money to distribute it or otherwise (we used gold, silver, shells, grain, etc. before), the result is the same: some people get more than others, and no one is getting “enough”. This guy is getting 2700 per month, and he didn’t think he had enough. We can use other ways to distribute – like the commune system China used in the 1950’s. That way, everybody gets the same whether you work hard or not, whether you have skills or not, whether you have valuable knowledge for getting more resources for the community or not.

    • Bman

      Totally agree man. Can’t wait until the day when we all work together to be better instead of blindly following this soulless mess we call an ‘economy.’

      • Hi lacompacida and Bman,

        Thanks for contributing your time and thoughts.

        We as a race certainly have a lot of untapped and unfocused potential.

        Our potential will shine when we honestly and truly focus on important matters.

        Some superstitions will be put to the test, and some cultural norms will need reevaluating. Those, of course, should be undertaken on an individual and private level – not through coercion.

        Then, we will need the action to back up the great solutions.

        And lotttttts of dialogue… :-)


  • holyfashion

    What a SHAMEFUL son! my parents have never asked me for money but if they did or i think they needed it would be more then happy to give it to them. No wonder people are choosing to not have children these days seems they are good for nothing but drained you financially and emotionally till the day you die.

  • hyuugasaki

    It’s hard to say from this information only. If the son is just a waiter in other city with 3000-4000 RMB income, having to pay for rent, and everything then his father asking for 2000 a month, it’s more than he could ever save monthly.

    I just can’t give what I don’t have. Though if he really doesn’t have that kind of money, he should explain it to his father. This is my salary, this is how much I pay for rent, what I use monthly, I can only save this much. And if 2000 is such a big amount for the son, going back home often will drain his money more. maybe the son think sending the money for the father to use might be better than using it for the 2 ways ticket home.

    And the father should try to understand his son’s finance. That’s what makes a family. at least what I believe asian family does.

    Depends on his career a well, if there’s no way to advance his career, maybe he can go back to Haikou, stay in parent’s place, work locally and take care of bill and such. If there’s a way to advance his career, he can tell his father to be patient, because sooner or later he will have a better finance.

  • Zappa Frank

    i wonder if in china people care so much like older people, parents, granparents, and so on… why does exist a law to enforce such kind of assistance? why can a tribunal order to visit a father more often?

    • Vance

      Like people here are often saying, there just isn’t enough information in these digests, but it sounds to me like it was just a suggestion. I think officials in these kind of governments see themselves as caretakers of the “dumb” masses anyways. Although, to be fair, in this case, I think that was a good call. I would have told him he should visit his father more often also. This may have been a stunt by the father to get more attention from his son.

      • Zappa Frank

        the thing is that apparently (i’ve read it here on CS, but i’m not 100%) the chinese legislation ‘force’ people to go to see their parents

  • Vance

    The courts made a common sense decision in this case.

  • lacompacida

    And when a new model of replicator comes along, the initial production will always be smaller than demand. That would create shortage of this new model of replicator, and the some one will complain.

  • Bman

    Why do people like you get so angry when somebody points out that there’s a better way. It makes me f-ing angry that people like you are the reason why the monetary slavery system rules. Your selfish shortsightedness sucks! Open your tiny little mind and dream of something other than your own consumerism. Geesh… and people think Chinese are brainwashed…

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