Chinese Students Make Foreign Teachers Eat “Spicy Sticks”

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辣条 latiao or “spicy sticks” are a popular snack food among Chinese students, mostly due to its cheap cost. Recently, they trended on China’s microblogging social network Sina Weibo under the hashtag #辣条征服世界# (“latiao taking over the world”), where many students encouraged their foreign instructors to try the snack. However, it was also reported that this cheap snack is produced in unsanitary conditions and may actually cause cancer.

From Sina Weibo:

@正常人办不出这种事儿: Foreign teachers with laotiao has successfully entered the international market! I’ve already bought a box, with plans to invite foreign teachers to try them, and thus reach the pinnacle of my life [become a “winner”]!!

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Comments on Sina Weibo:

RM余小阳:

When I have the chance, I’m going to get my foreign teacher to try it.

噎鸣笔落嘘灵感:

Over 100 years ago, the West used opium and cannons to open our doors. Today, we will use latiao to change their genes.

周燕凤-:

We’ve found the weapon that will defeat America.

心旷极光:

It’s packed full of gutter oil and nitrites.

empty0808:

Let cancer spread throughout the world.

白天装进黑夜:

The most trendy thing to do right now is to eat latiao!

两万个昼夜:

Disgusting.

龙叔叔不会卖萌-:

Classmates, can we stop inviting foreign teachers to try latiao? It feels like we’re harming them…it isn’t sanitary…

张美美AmtF:

We can now finally bring harm to foreigners.

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From Sina Weibo:

@新浪娱乐: Today, I had latiao for breakfast. Don’t ask me why, I’m just that stubborn! Recently, the price of latiao abroad has steeply increased, their 10+ US dollar price per pack a shock to the eyes, with netizens gasping that #Latiao is taking over the world#! Everyone, let us fondly recall our prior love story with latiao: “I fell for you, not because you had a house and car, but because that day the weather was great, you were wearing a white shirt, and in your pocket was a pack of latiao.”

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Comments on Sina Weibo:

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王者无将:

I often ate it when I was young.

summer不再是夏天:

Tuhao all eat latiao.

谁是谁非不过呵呵一笑:

I suggest they sanitize the production of latiao. Korea has kimchi, Japan has sushi, and our China can use latiao to take over the world.

透明胶Tina:

This [member of the] post-’80s generation wants to say I don’t like to eat it! It reeks of gasoline!

IAMWZZ-:

Will foreigners get diarrhea if they eat it?

侯沁林:

I want to go abroad to sell latiao and Laoganma!

阳光明媚的O:

Avoid eating junk food like this, the factory that produces latiao is too dirty.

节奏永远都不对的djl:

The photos are all of foreign teachers in China.

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  • Donald Med

    Is it an academic class or a visit to the zoo?

    • Donald Med

      I would rather eat shnit I find under my sofa.

      • 42

        the challenge is to ask a foreign teacher to eat the shnit.

      • Small twon

        Why did you put shnit under your sofa ?

  • 山炮 ShanPao

    Haha so many losers.

    • Who are the losers and why?

      • Ken Morgan

        It refers to extremely low standards of tertiary education (sometimes even at higher levels) in China. In itself this is not a huge problem.

        The major problem is over the past 10 years MANY people have exploited this situation and gone to China to exploit this situation. The kind where they get hired not because of their skills and qualifications but because they look the part and nothing else. Pre 2013 Z visas were barely enforced and there were bog all penalties as such there were enormous numbers of ‘teachers’ on tourist visas. That is not to say that there are no good and qualified teachers in China, but the bad ones outnumber the good ones greatly.

        This is partly the fault of the collapse in western economies leaving many to be unemployed. Thus they think lets go to teach in China!

        There is an article here:

        http://diaspora.chinasmack.com/2011/features/monica-tan-the-great-pretenders-chinas-unfireable-english-teachers.html

        So the Chinese see lots of people come to China, get paid more than them often complaining of the situation back home. This forms a very negative impression. As such ‘Foreign English teacher’ is looked down on heavily.

        Some of it is deserved like Ricky who managed to get to Annhui university. He turns up to lessons high on drugs and regularly boasts how he teaches the learners wrong things and makes perfect work wrong just to mess with them.

        Yet at the same time drawing more pay than local people. And treating it like a gap year.

        Friends who go to study in China complain about these individuals because they are associated with such people, or the way they hire Russians, or Ukrainians to ‘teach’ English because they look the part and the locals aren’t able to spot the frauds due to lack of confidence.

        • Lei Feng’s Hat

          Oh man, I missed that memo that proclaimed China the Earth’s Golden Paradise…where only the best of the best (from all those so many lesser countries) can enter so as not to defile China’s purity, cleanliness, and honesty…

          Oh, people of Earth, send only the best of the best, the brightest, the shining stars to China’s academic wonderlands!

          • Alex Dương

            How about just people who are actually qualified and genuinely want to teach?

          • Lei Feng’s Hat

            Okay, how about we give people the benefit of the doubt? In this story I see a series of photos that show what appears to be a group of teachers (yes, they come in all shapes and sizes) that are actually qualified and genuinely want to teach.

            But anytime, in any CS story in which the mere words ‘English teacher’ appears…out comes the ‘English teachers are losers’ routine. As if sub-standard foreign English teachers (because Chinese English teachers are so *great*) are going to bring down the pillars of Chinese society.

            It bugs me, and tonight I thought I would snap.

          • Ken Morgan

            The funny thing is the pendulum has swung the opposite way. I have an acquaintance who taught in China at the end of the 90s. There was none of this English teachers are losers.

            The high demand and low standards ruined the reputation as many frat boys went to China and didn’t treat it properly as a job.

            People get pissed off because education affects a persons life if you have a bad teacher or learn bad things this will stick with you for the rest of your life. If you eat some bad street food you get an upset gut for a few days at most and it is over.

            Parents scrimp to stick their children in schools to give them a head start but are being conned. That is where the hate comes from.

          • Probotector

            Right, the trouble is that it’s perpetuated on both sides by the racist Chinese foreign haters on the one side, and the arrogant white liberal expats on the other who think they’re earned their place in China simply because they ‘do business’.

          • silent observer

            ok find a qualified teacher willing to teach in a university for 1000~2000 a month with majority of students not wanting to learn and I will go find you a unicorn.

          • Alex Dương

            So the pay sucks and so do the students. At least on the salary side, you think it’s any different in the U.S.?

          • Probotector

            No it’s not.

          • Alex Dương

            So then I don’t think my request was unreasonable.

          • Ken Morgan

            Haha nice try at a straw man argument there.

            I never mentioned anything about paradise or purity or lesser or greater. You’re the one trying to bring this into the argument.

            It is about enforcement of a minimum standard we only allow people to drive if they pass a minimum standard through something called driving licences. Why is this any different?

            As I said a lot of people exploit China’s low standards because everywhere else has marginally higher ones.

          • Lei Feng’s Hat

            Well, as this is China, your driver’s license example…isn’t really going to fly.

            But, maybe it will, because China’s educational system is just as chaotic as China’s driving system. So, maybe just as it’s natural, and deserving, that they’re going to have car-wrecks every single day…maybe they’re going to get the odd teacher-wreck too.

            And they deserve it.

          • Alex Dương

            And they deserve it.

            So you’d be OK with China upping and enforcing higher standards? If so, isn’t that what @disqus_KqlFbTs6Y4:disqus is saying too?

          • Lei Feng’s Hat

            Yes, I would be okay with that. And in fact, right now in Beijing, the rumor is that that very thing is about to happen…

            But, this whole ‘English teachers are losers’ gambit is just lame…
            Although, admittedly, some of those hi-tech classrooms with their fine interiors and chalk with ragged blackboards (well, green boards) might seem daunting.

            Didn’t the Middle Kingdom once revere teachers?

        • guest

          If people were hired on simply their looks could say that these people were employed by businesses/schools/universities in China who were breaking Chinese law and not only that they were misinforming/teaching foreigners into breaking/bending Chinese law.

          • Ken Morgan

            Oh definitely the schools are complicit in such matters, but ignorantia legis neminem excusa. Plus if you ever look around various forums plenty of people actually encourage it.

        • Thanks for the reply Ken
          – Is “Ricky in Anhui” on Chinasmack?
          Would the people (especially other foreigners) who worked with such a misfit consider “encouraging” him to shape up or ship out (since that directly impacts their livelihood)?

          • Ken Morgan

            No he is not. He used to have an account over at reddit and another forum but has since deleted his account after getting his bubble burst.

            If you want I can provide you with a link via PM to the forum where all this played out.

            The problem with Ricky is that he suffers from the expat bubble problem. Whereby his ego was massaged so greatly by China that he couldn’t face the reality of his situation. In his heart of hearts he knows he is completely snookered and cannot leave China after falling for the ESL trap and not moving for nearly a decade.

            I loathe him because up until very recently he was still encouraging people to go to China to teach illegally. My guess is that sooner or later he’ll be caught and deported as he’s been caught and deported elsewhere.

            There is no need on CS tbh, reddit does a fairly good job of discouraging illegals and stopping people from standing still for years.

        • David

          Well standards are definitely going up in China now. Last week we got the new standards for a work visa for our area (of course in China each province has their own standards) but they are still lower than the standards I use when hiring teachers (or even interviewing them). But it is going in the right direction. My friend told me they were requiring 5 years experience in Shanghai for teachers at Chinese schools now. Of course the problem is not at the good schools, they have always had higher standards because people pay for it. The problem is in the smaller schools far away from prying eyes where they will still use ‘backpacker teachers’ on tourist visas. When I lived in Korea in the military 25 years ago, they would ask any G.I. who cared to work a few hours after work to teach evening classes and make some extra cash. For the last 10 years they have required very high standards in both public and private schools in Korea. China is getting there also.

    • Lei Feng’s Hat

      I’ve always wondered, by what bizarre set of standards, by what Twilight Zone criteria, by what dystopian constructs of logic does a mainland Chinese judge a “foreigner” to be a loser?

      Help me out, Shampoo…

      Because, it seems to me by the mere fact that most (if not all) foreigners brush their teeth every morning, they’ve already got the upper hand…?

      • Alex Dương

        ShanPao is not Chinese, mainlander or otherwise.

        • 山炮 ShanPao

          Thanks for pointing that out, I thought it strange one would jump to such assumptions.

          • Alex Dương

            Some people here get really defensive whenever the integrity / personal qualities of foreign teachers in China is called into question, even if the comment is explicit that the criticism / remarks only apply to a subset. So in your case, definitely expect some pushback.

          • Gordon Gogodancer

            That’s maybe because in the mind of some Chinese people there isn’t much difference between a foreign teacher and white trash. So perhaps people get offended easily by this topic. (I’m not a teacher)

          • Alex Dương

            As I understand it, that’s exactly what @disqus_KqlFbTs6Y4:disqus and others are complaining about: the subset of foreign teachers who behave poorly give Chinese people the wrong impression that “foreign teacher = white trash.”

    • defused

      Calling them losers or insinuating that they’re opportunistic isn’t really helpful or accurate. Both sides profit from the relationship: China gets cheap instruction (that there is lots of demand for) and the foreigners get decent pay and a good experience. When I was teaching in China there were plenty of good instructors, and even the biggest ‘deadbeats’ and ‘losers’ among the bunch cared about the quality of their work. I am now about half-way through a doctorate at a top US university, and although I know my material a lot better now (not English) I wouldn’t say that I am a more ‘skilled’ or ‘qualified’ teacher. I would only consider going back if a Chinese university would be willing to pay me 50k+ USD for an American sized teaching load, research support, and to teach my subjects of expertise, so as far as I’m concerned the Chinese universities I worked for before got the better end of the deal and the same is probably true for those other young teachers in the pictures (though I still think my experience was valuable).

      • Jahar

        I thought he meant the students posting the pictures, and the people who found it interesting enough to read about it online.

        • defused

          That’s possible. The world may never know.

        • terroir

          No matter the article, not matter the subject matter, no matter how tragic or sad the story is, your perfect response in any circumstance is “So many losers….”

          There is so much lost by so many people. The zero sum game in China means someone must lose in order for someone to win.

          But then, by saying that you’d be trolling as in this case.

      • 山炮 ShanPao

        What the fuck are you on about? Inferiority complex much? I didnt say anything about English teachers… you’ve just summed up your own opinion on them.

        • biggj

          You must have meant all the chinese posting pictures of their teacher eating a snack being losers. This story would only be popular in china. I see what you’re saying now….the chinese people who made this story popular are all losers.

          • Luke the Duke

            He didn’t make any generalised comment about ‘English teachers’ or ‘foreigners’, just commented on the people in the photos. Don’t lose your head now.

          • Opi

            Well, he wouldn’t be the first person to imply that EFL teachers are losers, and I can’t think of any other reason anyone would say that about the subjects of those photos, so…

          • Jahar

            I thought he meant the students.

        • defused

          My post is clearly in response to the entire dialogue of this thread (the opportunism bit is an indirect response to Ken who remarks that some foreigners ‘exploit the situation’), but it is more convenient to reply to the first person in the chain than to reply to every post individually.

          Anyway, it would be helpful if you were clear from the start. Since everyone has interpreted your comment to be in reference to foreign teachers, the problem really must be in your communication. There’s no sense in faking outrage at people for taking the most logical interpretation of your post; then it just looks like you were intentionally vague to recant your statements should anyone disagree with them. In fact, you ‘still’ have yet to clarify who you were referring to with your comment.

          And, yes, I did sum up my opinion on English teachers. I said they, well, “care[d] about the quality of their work”. How . . uhm . . terrible? With those writing and reading skills, it’s a good thing you’re not an English teacher! ;~}

        • Probotector

          Saying someone’s got an inferiority complex after branding a whole group of people ‘so many losers’. Yeah, good one.

    • SuperLaowai

      Losers? A number of foreign teachers who have been in China for years end up making more than professional expats by opening their own school or training center (the last is more profitable and cheaper), I know quite a few people here who are around 30 and make 300000RMB monthly (or ~35000USD) after they paid their staff and the bills, and they are still teachers in their own center, opening a training center as a foreigner is very profitable, middle class Chinese are willing to spend fortunes to go there because they don’t trust their own countrymen when it comes to education.

      • They make $35K/month?
        Wow – Sign me up!

      • 山炮 ShanPao

        See above post. I mentioned nothing about foreign teachers and I find it hilarious how your own opinion of them has come into your argument here. Brilliant.

      • Luke the Duke

        You do not know ‘quite a few’ people who are around 30 years old and make over $35k a month from running an English language training centre in China.

      • Jax88

        Sure dream on

      • Rick in China

        Yes, 300k/month is easy to come by, especially if you’re an English teacher! Care to reveal your monthly?

      • Dr Sun

        your full of shit, do you realise how much in bribes alone it costs a foreigner each year to open and run a business , way more than your 300,000 rmb. To open a business here as a foreigner your looking at payouts of around 1 to 2 million rmb minimum, each and every year to a varied collection of many Govt running dogs.
        Plus you must have a Chinese Partner, who generally takes 90 % of the profile for 0 % of the work.
        Of course if you are walmart you may get a better deal, but a teacher opening a private school, no way.

        • If I May

          That’s false on all counts. I have a business in China and I’ve never had to bribe anyone. Also, my business is solo (i.e. no partner) and rather small.

        • SuperLaowai

          The “you must have a Chinese partner to open a business” is actually one of the biggest misconception among foreigners in China. You can own 100% of your company and be the only name registered on the licence. As for the rest I have a consulting agency finding FT for schools and never had to bride anyone, never involved myself with any official, yet this is a very profitable business.

          • Kai

            It depends on the industry. Some industries do indeed require a Chinese partner while others don’t.

          • Dr Sun

            bullshit

        • SuperLaowai

          bribe* screw you T9

    • mr.wiener

      Care to inform us of your own situation and why you are a “winner”?

  • biggj

    When I was in china a little over a year ago there was a company that made these that had some diaoyu island propaganda on the front of it. I even put a picture on here too, I just cant find it.

    These things are not too bad…not good for…but I’d rather eat that than a pickled chicken’s foot or some of that crazy shit I see in chinese stores.

    • I try not to think about it…
      After all, how good can the pork baozi be for you when it only costs 1.5RMB each
      but it’s oh so tasty!

  • If I May

    Dignity (noun): The quality of being worthy of esteem or respect.

    At least a few of them ate that crap in the office…

  • Happy Holidays Everyone!
    I don’t have any real exposure to foreigners teaching English in China, but had pictured most of them to be recent high school or college graduates (twenty-something year olds).
    I was surprised by the photos above – Most of the them appear to be older…
    I applaud their resiliency, but imagine that career choice to be much simpler for a 20 year old.

    • Poodle Tooth

      If these schools are legit with real Z-visa-eligible teachers, they would inherently be at least a couple years out of school.

      • I am a big fan of Winston Sterzel (in Shenzhen) who posts blogs from China and I remember him talking about the tightening/crackdown in China.
        I have walked by Big Glass Picture Windows of many English school where they are teaching class for all to stop and see.
        All of those people are clean cut and 25-35.

    • If I May

      Most, perhaps all of these teachers are English instructors, but English is by no means the only subject that foreigners teach. Teachers of other subjects are usually older (although there are exceptions, of course) and almost invariably have plenty of experience teaching their subject outside of China (usually in their home country, but there are exceptions there as well).

      Anyhow, teaching jobs for maths, physics, chemistry, computer science, social studies, etc. are highly sought after and tend to pay significantly more than English language stuff (unless one is teaching *academic* English). These jobs are by no means limited to international schools. That having been said, work conditions are usually much better in those.

      As for me, I taught academic English, and later on, music history (one of the music subjects that I taught back home in the 90’s) — eight years teaching in the Middle Kingdom. Now, I do other things, but I’m still in China. I’ll take off shortly before this decade is out, though.

      • I have (Chinese) friends who have been asking me to come to China and start a couple businesses with them (one of them being a “school/training facility”) because they said having a foreign partner with involvement every few months will draw in business in their city. I am good at training and “business”, but (full time) teaching (children) is not my calling.
        You probably see a lot of foreigners doing something similar?

  • filabusta

    “Will foreigners get diarrhea if they eat it?”

    Yes.

    • jin

      Good part about China is that after you live there for few years, your Immune system is forced to go god mode.

      • filabusta

        True that. Still can’t avoid the occasional 烧烤 stomach.

      • Poodle Tooth

        My intestinal flora haven’t been the same since. Now back in America, I fart more or less continuously.

        • filabusta

          lol I figured it was just my re-exposure to cheese.

        • mr.wiener

          Try mint tea or ginger.

      • Jahar

        Or it’s completely destroyed.

        • jin

          No immune system = death by a cold…. and only old people can die from a cold.

          • Jahar

            I’m getting there…

      • plorf

        that’s one way to put it. but then again an alcoholic is also mighty proud he can drink a bottle of bootleg and still dance and sing.

        your tolerance to poison is not a great indicator of how healthy or strong you are.

        • jin

          Ofcourse, but if you eat healthy, which is easy if you can cook your self, life fish and fresh home grown vegetables can be bought every morning in most part of China.

          • plorf

            At the local market yes, full of heavy metals and fecal matter as small farmers still use human waste as fertilisers. Buying local is not a great idea if you live in Beijing or Shanghai to say the least…

            You’re much better off buying vegetable from a supermarket that buys from bigger farms outside of the cities.

  • Teacher in China

    Sons of bitches! A kid tried this on me just the other day! I rarely eat the greasy packaged shit lots of people eat here though, so I passed on it, lucky for me. I wondered why everyone thought it was so funny – I thought it was just one of those “let’s give the foreigner something really spicy and laugh when he can’t take it” things…

    • SuperLaowai

      Make sure they didn’t take a photo when they tried to hand it to you (even if you didn’t eat it), personally if I was a teacher and my photo ended up on the internet I would take revenge by giving that class mountains of homework everyday for the rest of the term, this until I know who posted the photo online, then I would get him/her fired.

      Respect for privacy and personal image should also prevail in class, sadly students in China are often taught to have little respect for foreign teachers as explained here: http://blog.clarknielsen.com/no-respect-for-foreign-teachers-in-china/

      • Luke the Duke

        Chill out, honey pie.

        • Probotector

          Yeah, how dare he have self respect, what a cunt right?

      • NeverMind

        You must be fun at parties. It’s not like they are posting your unclothed photos or something.

        • SuperLaowai

          Yeah right, FT must be entertaining fun monkeys, not real teachers.

          • NeverMind

            This is not unique to Chinese students. If you browse popular western sites like Reddit, 9gag etc, you will find posts made by western students which include their teachers’ photos doing funny things. They are not being made fun of, they’re having fun together with their students. The most popular teachers with students in China or anywhere else are those who have a bit of fun while teaching. Who would want to deal with a grumpy Chairman Mao everyday of their student life?

            You must be German.

      • 42

        You probably someone who didn’t get laid on any asian chinese pussy and now holding a grudge.

        • SuperLaowai

          You get laid with your students? I am calling the PSB right now.

      • Balkan

        I think teachers who take revenge on their students and not educate them should lose their jobs.

        • SuperLaowai

          Probably why I am not a bottom-of-the-ladder language teacher.

      • Rick in China

        What?

        “by giving that class mountains of homework everyday for the rest of the term, this until I know who posted the photo online, then I would get him/her fired.”

        You’d get the students fired? From school? Huh?

        • SuperLaowai

          My mistake, I forgot ESL that teachers have no decision power.

          • Rick in China

            Huh? We’re still not connecting. How do you FIRE a student from middle school? Do you mean expel? Or do you mean you would fire some other teacher of the student who posted said photo? I’m still confused by your comment.

      • Teacher in China

        It depends on the circumstances, for me anyway. This is a relatively harmless thing, so I doubt I’d freak out about it too much. I’d probably handle it with some sort of great lesson about privacy and how it feels when your privacy is violated or something like that. Rather teach them punish them.

      • Privacy in a public place huh? SO how about all those photos of starving kids in Africa…. are you gonna hunt down the person that uploaded those too?

        • Probotector

          shut the fuck up, they’re not even comparable. Documenting starvation in Africa is to raise awareness of the plight and tragedy of such people, a bunch of immature kids snapping pics when you’d think they should spend more time learning is inappropriate and shows how much they don’t give a shit about their teacher or the less. Of course, you would defend any voyeurism with a camera since it’s hoe you make your livelihood.

          • Luke the Duke

            If you think it’s okay to spread around photos of someone’s starvation without their permission but not okay to spread around photos of someone eating a snack without permission, on the basis that it’s a violation of privacy, then you are a confused man.

        • mistertibbs4u

          I swear to God, I feel sorry for all the starving white people of the world.

          Starving Africans get all the attention!

    • Give him an “F” for effort – haha

    • mr.wiener

      Give them some “Warheads” candy in exchange.

      • Teacher in China

        Man I wish I had some of those!! I once ate 8 of the sour ones at the same time on a dare…my face almost turned inside out.

      • Rick in China

        When all the people think eating spicy is so amazing (in Chengdu) and foreigners can’t take it, etc.. I always challenge. I eat spicy no problem. So we go buy whatever they think is super spicy, and it’s all good.. in exchange, they only have to lick a toothpick tip of a foreign hot-sauce of my choosing. They always take it. They’re always suckered into tasting a Da’ Bomb hot sauce: http://www.hotsauce.com/Da-Bomb-Ground-Zero-Hot-Sauce-p/1326.htm

        Da’ Bomb Final Answer is 1.5mil skoville units, which is many times any pepper. I kinda like the flavour of Ground Zero though, as in it actually has one and doesn’t need to be used in very sparse drops in a sauce in order to not fuck you up, but that’s why 1 bottle of Final Answer has lasted like, forever, actually right now I don’t know where it is – maybe in a moving bag somewhere in a cupboard. Ground Zero comes in @ a nice 234k units..by contrast Tobasco is like 7k.

        • mr.wiener

          If you ever come to Taiwan I can get you some Scotch Bonnet seeds.

          • Nihilist

            Am I the only one not married to a Sichuanese woman?

        • Gordon Gogodancer

          I find it funny (and annoying of course) always hearing Chengdu people commenting amongst themselves how “oho~ this is of course too 辣 for those poor little foreigners ” while themselves are complaining how spicy the food is all the time.
          I guess it’s one of those thing Chinese people must say and check off their “Chinese must say list” …hey! Let’s make a Chinese must say list! I’ll start:
          -老外吃肉!
          -老外不能吃辣的嘛oho~
          -哈咯!(standard version)
          -何咯!( country side version)
          -oh! look what you foreigners (you, personally) did to us during the opium wars!
          -You are so handsome! (eeuh…)

          • Zappa Frank

            – hello ( usually the first and only word they can say in English)
            – how come you can use chopsticks?!
            – are you married?
            – do you have a girlfriend?

          • Gordon Gogodancer

            haha yeah…i completely forgot the “how come you can use chopsticks” :D

          • Jahar

            They get the grammar right? I find that hard to believe. I always get, “Do you married?” And they never know how to say chopsticks. I also get:
            “Where are you come from?”
            “Why are you come to China?”
            “Do you like Chinese food?”
            “Do you like Chinese girl?”
            “Can you speaka Chinese?”

          • Zappa Frank

            you guys are too picky on grammar, I’ve seen worse among my countrymen. Just for instance, on enjoyshanghai there was one who was used to write (in an attempt to find online some girls and cheat his wife) that he was ‘boring in shanghai’…
            I’ve checked, is still there and now write also in a broken Chinese..

          • Gordon Gogodancer

            I’m so miss you~~~

          • don mario

            YOU ARE VERY FASHION.

          • don mario

            have you tried this snakes? they are very FAMOURSE.

          • Dr Sun

            yes,yes, and yes Oo
            but if you only use chopsticks to eat, your not there yet ,lol

          • Wodowsan

            Q: Where you from?
            A: My mother and father.
            They seemed surprised that I had a mother and father.
            Q: What place?
            A: The center of the universe.
            Q: The center of the universe?
            A: (taking a superman stand) New York City.
            Q: You married?
            A: (coyly) Why do you want to know? (bat my eyes.)
            Q: Do you eat Chinese food?
            A: I am from New York. I eat foods from all over the world.
            Q: Can you use chopsticks?
            A: I am from New York. Of course I can use chopsticks.
            Q: Do you love China?
            A: The question should be, does China love me?

          • Probotector

            Masterful

          • jaded

            I’m a leftie-left hander that is. I’m sick to death of hearing “oh you write with the left hand. You are very clever. Why do foreigners like to write with the left hand?- as if it’s a choice! Can you write with your right? Why not? Do people in your country all write with the left hand…arrgh!

          • mistertibbs4u

            agreed.

          • mistertibbs4u

            Haha… gangster response.

          • mingy

            same questions I have been asked in New York… I am Chinese..

          • Wodowsan

            They ask you do you like Chinese food? Do you use chop sticks, and do you love China? I can see people asking where you are from.

          • Rick in China

            “You’re so tall!” (not that tall)
            “Eyes so blue!” (not blue eyes)

          • Zappa Frank

            also ‘why your eyes are not blue?”

          • Zappa Frank

            “do you like hotpot?”

          • Teacher in China

            None of you guys get “How much do you make every month?” That’s always one of the first three questions I get from taxi drivers here.

          • If I May

            Years ago, I used to get that question from almost everyone. Less so now… It’s still damn rude, though. Ditto re. many of their other intrusive and/or asinine questions. Stupid.

          • Gordon Gogodancer

            Indeed! i forgot that one

          • Rick in China

            Of course.

            I know how much taxi drivers in Chengdu make. Often they claim between 2000-2400/month. Why do I know this?

            Because, I often don’t want to talk to those kind of taxi drivers. These days they don’t ask, but back in the day, I’d just spring the routine back on them. They’d ask me one of the ‘routine’ questions, I’d reply with “where are you from? Chengdu?” and immediately when they answer, I’d continue with the same line of questioning,

            “How tall are you?”
            “Do you teach Chinese?”
            “How much do you make a month?”

            The first would often get a laugh, and the conversation wouldn’t usually progress much farther. Quiet taxi rides for the fucking win. :D

          • Teacher in China

            That doesn’t work here. Everyone loves talking about money, and they are thrilled to be talking to a foreigner in Chinese. It’s been good practice for my speaking though :)

        • Teacher in China

          I went to Chongqing in 2006 and ate some of the famous Chongqing hotpot. Everyone in the place was watching me chow down. It was indeed insanely spicy. At that time, I could eat spicy well enough, but I think after so long in China I’m even better at it now. Anyways, when I finished all my food, the other patrons of the restaurant (all Chinese) actually applauded. It was one of those things I wish I had recorded….

    • Someone in Lapland

      Have u been to Sweden? They have a very traditional food: rotted fish. When Swedes invite u to try rotted fish, then what do u think? Are u really a teacher? Do u really know China and Chinese students? If u think they’re laughing at u, then sorry. You are wrong. But if they see your comments here, maybe tomorrow u will see what the real laugh is.:) U’re a terrible teacher. That’s it.

      • Gordon Gogodancer

        I agree that most Chinese people laughing at you are not actually trying to mock you (most of them aren’t, i think). I don’t mind children laughing like that at all, because they are kids…it’s the ones who giggle like little girls though they are well in their 20s who bother me

        • Probotector

          Then enlighten us and tell us why they do it?

      • Teacher in China

        Did you even read the story above? This was clearly meant to be a prank at the expense of the teachers. And since it went viral on the net in China recently, I don’t think it’s a huge leap in logic to suggest that what happened to me only days ago was the exact same thing, especially since many of the students were giggling while he did it. That’s it.

        • Zappa Frank

          regardless of the prank, that kind of food has to be refused anyway. Really unhealthy, like most Chinese food I dare to say…

          • Teacher in China

            I don’t know about “most Chinese food” being unhealthy. Certainly, a lot of the prepackaged snacks are probably not so good for you, but probably not so much more than the same type of food in other countries.

            Most of the other Chinese food I’ve ever eaten is healthier than food back home. Of course, you can find unhealthy stuff, but I’d say on average it’s more healthy than a lot of other places. That being said, up here in Dongbei I see some really bad eating habits. Ma la tang is really popular here, and that’s something people shouldn’t be eating every day for sure. And so many people love salty food up here, which I think is the reason so many older men get unhealthy so quickly – smoking, drinking baijiu every day, and eating tons of salty food; that shit will kill you.

          • Zappa Frank

            Apart from snacks, that are for sure not healthy everywhere (and we can open another topic about food controls in china) sincerely I find hard to think about something healthy in any Chinese dishes. I would like to know just the name of one healthy dish…
            Usually everything is fried or semi-fried, drowned in oil and usually oil used many times, bad quality oil or too long cooked oil.. many carbs and fat and a tiny amount of protein.. sincerely I’m sorry if your home’s food is less healthy, but I find it hard to believe. The only thing is that Chinese eat just a few, they don’t eat so much as westerns (americans in particular) do, because the quantity matters, a lot… but sincerely about the quality I really don’t find anything good.
            I would say the contrary, you can find eventually some healthy food (usually just steamed vegetables) but most is from not that healthy to extreme unhealthy.

          • Teacher in China

            I get the point about the oil – you can never be sure where the oil has come from and how many times it has been used, but that’s a food safety issue, which isn’t how I took your first comment. If we’re talking about that, then yes I agree that Chinese food is less healthy because you can’t be sure where the stuff used to cook it is coming from and how safe the ingredients are.

            But if we’re talking strictly about the diet, that is, the actual food itself and how it’s prepared, I think Chinese food is healthier on average. In North America, we tend to eat huge portions of meat, add sugar and all the modified corn products to everything, and eat way too much fat and deep fried food. When I look at virtually any noodle or rice based dish, which Chinese eat a lot of, I think it’s much healthier. There’s also, I’ve found, much more of an emphasis on vegetables in Chinese cooking, especially different kinds of roots and mushrooms and leafy vegetables. The mushrooms and of course tofu, which is another healthy thing Chinese eat a lot of, can often take the place of red meat in their dishes, too, which I think is healthier.

            I’m not saying it’s perfect. There are certainly dishes that are swamped in too much oil, too much salt, or too much meat or whatever, but ON AVERAGE, I think it’s healthier than at least North America.

            Whereabouts are you from? A European country? I don’t have enough experience in the diets of all the countries there, but I’d wager more than a few of them are similar to what I talked about above; I’d wager the same for Australia and NZ too. Of course, feel free to correct me :)

          • Zappa Frank

            my point is not about the security of the food. but rather about the way of preparing food. because even if we suppose that there is no problem with the food’s quality, still most of dishes are covered in oil or drowned in oil, still most are fried or semi-fried, still most Chinese reuse the oil (in Chongqing to they like reuse oil of the hotpot because is more tasty they told me) and mix water with oil while frying. Than we may see what we have to eat, and yes there are vegetables, but most meat chicken and pork is full of fats, as far as I’ve seen when you eat meat in china you can expect a 40% of fat, 20% of skin, bones and just a minimum quantity of real meat, the rest is rice, noodles and so on.. we may say that Chinese eat a lot of carbs , fats and few protein. you are right that there are many veggies but after that way of cooking are filled with oil. About the oil, regardless of the security and the way of cooking, we may even argue about what kind of oil is that, because usually is a low quality oil, refined, and so on. Now, you are right about the American diet, but the problem about the American diet rather than what you eat is how much you eat, too much. In china they eat really a few and of course eating a few saves you from most of the problems, so in my opinion the good point of the Chinese diet is that you eat just a few.

          • Rick in China

            Frank..frank…frank…

            I read recently that contrary to popular belief, it’s things like pasta, wheat, potatos that’ll f’ up your diet most, rather than things like meat (and fat on meat) like you’ll find in so many Chinese dishes.

            The salt/msg/oil is a problem, but typically if you eat well selected Chinese dishes, it’s largely portions of straight up veg and meats. Not so unhealthy….but I can see why the oil and often too much salt or msg may be a turn off, that’s definitely one problem. I would argue, however, that while western diets often include far less oil and msg, western diets also often include way more starchy pasta/potatos/breads, and worst of all lots of sugar and other unhealthy additives that I find hard to defend against. Shit, look at McDonalds – when I eat a stick of groddy gutter oil bbq from the street side stand, at least it’s not 1000 calories of additives hidden in bread, sauce, and “juice” (aka sugar water) :P

          • Zappa Frank

            what I’ve written so far is that in my opinion there are more carbs in Chinese diet than in a western one, here people eat rice, noodle jiaozi and so on at every meal, the portion of meat is almost none, tiny, same for veggie, and above all oily, and sure not good oil… Mc Donald is a junk food, is not part of any diet, don’t know, maybe in America you have Mc Donald on daily basis, here in Europe is already a lot if people go there once a month. Same for snacks with sugars and additives, are present also in china, but less controlled than in Europe, than I wouldn’t say is a western problem. I would like to know some names of healthy Chinese dishes, just tell me, maybe is my ignorance and with someone help I will be able to eat lean and healthy also in china.. so far I’ve yet to eat a Chinese healthy dish.

          • Rick in China

            there are more processed carbs in Chinese diet

            Processed carbs? Simple carbs? Ok. No – to both. I’m just guessing, not sure if I recall exactly any post defining your home country, but you’re from Italy? Processed carbs will be things like white bread and um..wait, pasta, pizza, pastries, eh? Every staple of Italian cuisine is processed carbs. Except tomatos and olive oil, maybe. But that’s also drizzled in oil, which apparently you despise :D

            Chinese food has some carbs in the form of, say, rice and noodles..which most meals consist of a small portion of rice at the end of a meal (typically one tiny bowl, maybe 1cup…what, 40gm?) or yiliang or erliang of noodles. The majority of what I see as unhealthy in some Chinese food is the oil, the salt, and the msg. That is to say that many foods are flavoured with these relatively unhealthy – when consumed in quantity – additives. However, western food is far from better. In fact, so many western foods are founded on the basis of having already processed carbs and added sugars/salts/etc that perhaps we don’t think about it. Yes, many Chinese foods may ‘seem’ oily, but it’s often made up of raw vegetables or straight up meats cooked in oil with seasoning or spice, not much else… whereas most ‘common’ western families have a practice of eating well-processed and heavily-additive containing “products” already packaged to sell for easy cooking.

            I’ll tell you what I ate tonight and why I think it’s relatively healthy. I typically love to cook myself and have high quality meats and recipes to satisfy while maintaining a good balance, but since we’ve had a baby my wife often likes our mother to come over during the day and she ends up cooking during most of the week. She knows I don’t like extra-fatty-meat or intestines of sorts, and overly-salty or other types of foods, so a typical dinner when I arrive includes the following:

            * Green peas and lean beef (which I order), with seasoning, in a big bowl…which can be scooped over the relatively small rice bowl to mix in and make a good flavourful pea/beef/rice mixture for scooping into the gullet.
            * Very braised ribs, straight up pork on bone so soft it falls off, with a healthy amount of chili and other spices, but very little else.
            * Vegetable soup. I think they just dump vegies into water for a while and let it stew, but the soup is tasty and basically just water and vegetables.

            ** Oh, and almost any Chinese meal ends with fruit. Not pastry or cakes or desserts, but fruit. Straight up. Not juiced so you absorb the sugars but not the fibres, but fruit..simply cut and served.

            I fill up. I feel it is pretty healthy. I feel there is limited or minimal “blank carbs”, and I don’t see anything wrong with this random dinner to give you an example of why eating “Chinese food” isn’t unhealthy unless you eat random shitfood at a local hole-in-the-wall, but rather choose a diet which when you look around, appears to produce a far thinner and healthier population than many heavily-processed-sugar-subsidized western nations. What you got?

          • Zappa Frank

            in Italy pizza and pasta is something you eat once a week, not daily like people do in US (with a lot more processed pizza and pasta by the way), extra virgin olive oil is on completed different level as quality of oil, besides we usually add it crude, don’t use cooked, even if used cooked is still a better oil, but in that case for sure our dishes are not filled with cooked oil… About westerns food I guess you mean americans, because in Europe I’ve never seen people eat as you say.. on contrary I’ve seen many Chinese eating daily the boxed noodles that perfectly fit your description. Carbs are not just a small pot of rice, Chinese diet is based on carbs (nothing strange, is the same for every farmer’s culture) veggies and meat are just a minimum part, the meat of a portion of gongbaojiding don’t even arrive to 50g..

            Green peas and lean beef, tried, usually peas and beef are fried or semi-fired, with a lot of oil (and again, not all the oils are the same, and anyway cooked oils are always not healthy) and the beef is in minimum quantities and 40% fat

            Very braised ribs, not sure if I tried, but as far as I remember were greasy and mostly fats
            vegetable soup, is not a real food, something to drink, I don’t like it and again as far as I’ve seen there is always oil in it.
            fruit.. well I don’t understand your surprise, eat fruit was normal also in my country. Cake or dessert just when you go to eat outside once in a while.
            and again I say, first thin doesn’t mean healthy, second as I said before are thinner because the portions are by far smaller, but by far… like 1/4 of an American portion, third Chinese population is getting fatter at a high rate exactly because due to the increase of economic possibilities they are going to eat more.

          • don mario

            whats wrong with shui jiao?

          • Zappa Frank

            when boiled or steamed are ok, even if you cannot eat too much because in the end have high calories. A Chinese portion would be ok….an American portion would be too much

          • don mario

            Shui jiao is boiled. And chinese are not going to be eating a large portion. It is not particularly high calories. Its only flour, meat and veg.

          • Rick in China

            more processed carbs in Chinese diet than in a western one

            What? Aside from rice and noodles, what?

            http://www.diagnosisdiet.com/refined-carbohydrate-list/

            Western diet is FULL OF PROCESSED CARBS. I don’t care what western country you’re from. I mean, you’re from Italy, right? Staple food: PASTA? No? Polenta? What are you possibly talking about. You’re deluded, man.

            the portion of meat is almost none, tiny, same for veggie,

            What? In what peasanty diet? Yes, migrant workers don’t eat as much meat as people who aren’t poor, but that has nothing to do with Chinese food – but rather – the affordability of quality/quantity of things like beef, which are relatively expensive, to include in their meals. If you eat 6rmb fried rice you’re not going to get a healthy quantity of quality meet with it. I don’t know what kind of poor people you eat with, but don’t blame poor people’s quality/quantity of certain types of foods on “Chinese food” as a whole. I eat Chinese food all the time – and my family never eats buckets of rice with scraps of meat/veg to accompany – it’s the opposite – we have dishes on the table with purely vegetables/meat, and a small bowl of rice (sometimes eaten at the end by others). The quantity of carbohydrates at my family’s dinners compared to the protein/veg is…I don’t know, a very small fraction. How were your mashed potatos, by the way, ultra healthy low carb food right? Right.

            maybe in America you have Mc Donald on daily basis

            I’m not American. There is a reason McDonalds and other shitty fast food restaurants spread like wildfire all over the world – because TONS OF PEOPLE EAT THAT FOOD. Just because you don’t doesn’t mean it’s not a common part of so many people’s diets. You are basically comparing your “health conscious” diet to peasant food diets in China and saying “Chinese food is shit. Look.”

            Same for snacks with sugars and additives, are present also in china, but less controlled than in Europe, than I wouldn’t say is a western problem

            Yeah. Snacking on shitty sugary/salty foods is not common in European/Western diets. *puke*

            I would like to know some names of healthy Chinese dishes

            Again, the problem you’re experiencing is not that the dishes are unhealthy, it seems – but rather you’re eating shitty quality foods from shitty restaurants that serve shit, in poor quantities. If you learn to cook Chinese food – you’ll find that while many dishes are indeed oily, you end up with tons of tofu, meat, and vegetables – not carbs, that’s almost exclusively an ‘afterthought’ – like, eat all the veg/meat then a small bowl of rice afterwards. Unless of course you eat with migrant workers – then you’ll end up with shit, just like you’ll end up with ketchup packets on dried spaghetti noodles if you eat lunch in a trailer park in Mississippi.

          • Zappa Frank

            rice is processed, wheat is processed, same for every carbos like noodles that are even more processed… if you read what I’ve written I told you in Italy we don’t eat pasta and pizza everyday, while in china noodle for breakfast, for lunch and for dinner are not uncommon, peasant dishes? maybe, but that’s what it is, Chinese food IS peasant dishes, because Chinese culture is a culture of farmers, than the diet is based of that kind of culture… to have a Chinese diet full of meat is an aberration of the normal Chinese diet, you can have it at your home, but don’t claim is the normal Chinese diet. I don’t know your house dishes are full of meat, for sure are not Chinese normal dishes as far as I’ve seen in any restaurants and again, all constantly drowned in oil, a cheap oil..the fact that maybe twice a week I eat mashed zishu or hongshu (not potatoes) what have to do with this? are we talking about what we eat or Chinese diet? because I also drink cappuccino everymorning, I know fruit and yogurt would be better but you know what? I like cappuccino…
            I don’t compare peasant diet, I compare normal diet in china, and yes peasant diet in Italy is by far more healthy.
            snacks with sugars aren’t popular in china as well? are we talking about diet or snacks anyway? because if we talk about snacks (that in china are present even more and are of worse quality) there are many things to say. Sorry if snacks are part of diet in your country, in mine are not….for sure nothing more than in china.
            All the healthy Chinese food you say is fried or semifried… and with what kind of oil?? can you tell me?? I wouldn’t say is healthy..

          • Rick in China

            Frank, dude, we’re not going to come to an agreement here – Look. Chinese food can be healthy. Stir-fry can absolutely be healthy. Check these out: http://www.myrecipes.com/healthy-diet/healthy-stir-fry-recipes When I look through those images, they almost ALL look like dishes I can order from a nearby restaurant. Almost any good restaurant, when you order food, doesn’t automatically dump carbs infront of you, you order meat/veg dishes which are almost exclusively meat/veg, then a small bowl of rice on top – a little rice is perfectly fine. It’s a problem when poor people can’t afford so many meat/veg dishes and need to fill up on more rice..that’s not the healthiest portion balance, but these type of high-carb diets are OK when quantity is limited and their normal day job involves moving constantly and lifting/doing some sort of physical activity…they can burn thru that shit. It’s not good for office workers, but office workers aren’t typically so poor that they need to fill up on rice/noodles, and can eat more of the FRIED vegetables/meat dishes. Yes, fried. What do you think is healthier, boiling? baking? How do you cook your vegetables? Steaming? Yum, steamed vegetables without sauce! Right?

            The diets you’re criticising are, I’m sure, unhealthy in many cases. I’m telling you that it’s not a problem with Chinese food, it’s a problem with the individuals – just like there are tons of problems with TONS of people’s diets in any country, including Italy, and I find it hilarious you saying that pasta is some rarity in the Italian diet. Rice & polenta in the north Pasta in the south, no? Are we talking about the same Italy? Maybe you just eat chopped tomatos every day, who knows, but don’t tell me pasta/polenta/rice aren’t staples of the Italian diet.

          • Teacher in China

            OK, I get you. We’ll just have to disagree about “most dishes being covered in oil”. Maybe you just haven’t tried a wide enough range of Chinese food yet. And as for fried or semi-fried, both of those are better than deep-fried, which is quite a dominant force in Western food. As for the meat, a little fat is actually good for you, according to recent studies, and don’t know of any study that shows skin is bad for you.

            Anyway, you are absolutely right about the portion size. Chinese people in general eat smaller portions than we do (although my wife certainly can pack it in when she’s hungry).

          • Zappa Frank

            deep fried is dominant in western food?! I eat deep fried maybe twice a month when I’m at home… I wouldn’t say is dominant.. About trying a wide range of Chinese food I think in 3 years here I’ve tried almost everything. We are not talking about a little fat, we are talking about at 40% of fats, that is not healthy.

          • vincent_t

            well, everyone complains about foreigners picking apart his culture and customs to the extent of wanting him to change to fit their beliefs/traditions/customs. Who are we to go to other countries and pick apart their diet and food?

          • Zappa Frank

            i don’t want Chinese to change their diet, simply i don’t find it healthy like some suppose it to be. from my side i try to do not eat too much Chinese food.

          • Alex Dương

            I think you’re right that based on my experience (limited to visiting grandparents), Chinese food in China has a tendency to have too much oil and too much salt added. That’s definitely not healthy, but of course it would be a lot healthier without the extra oil and salt.

          • Zappa Frank

            it changes with the regions, in Sichuan food is a lot more oily than for instance Fujian.. actually I like more Fujian food, but I’m doomed to live in Sichuan and have a sichuanese wife that complain because everything is not spicy enough.. I have to add lajiao also in the mashed potatoes..(to tell the truth are not potatoes but 红薯泥 or 紫署泥)

          • vincent_t

            Now I see why you are complaining. Chinese food is quite diversified. From province to province the ingredient/cooking/taste could be very different. I find Cantonese food and most of the South Eastern province cuisine are quite healthy and delicious. It is mainly cook by steaming/ soup/ slight stir fried and most of the dishes have lots of veggie in it. Sichuan food is definitely tasty but a big no, so does some northern cuisine that have a lot of oil added in or marinated meat. Sorry pal it is not the Chinese food, it is just that you got stuck in a subset of Chinese cuisine that is famous of generosity in using oil.

          • Teacher in China

            Just because you personally only eat deep fried food twice a month doesn’t mean that it isn’t a much loved method of cooking.

            Anyway, it looks like we’re going to have to agree to disagree. We’re not getting anywhere here.

          • Zappa Frank

            maybe we have different experience with western food, as well as Chinese dishes are different according to the region the difference among western food is even higher. for me the only deep fried was deep fried rabbit and vegetable that my grandmother used to do once in a while when she came to our house, usually during some holiday.. and deep fried with virgin olive oil.. for the rest even French fries aren’t common in my home…

          • don mario

            honestly i think if you tried to eat a nutritious diet you would find the standard chinese fair to be not as good as it first seemed.

            i will say that chinese are more health concious though, of what they eat. although from my own observation it doesn’t always get put in to practice. a bowl of noodles in soup with a few chopped spring onions thrown in is a pretty standard meal here and i just couldn’t eat it unless i was scraping by or something.

            chinese like to eat meat differently than us too. off the bone with very little actual meat or the fatty parts like chicken feet or cows feet.. i like to eat to fuel my body personally not so i have something with an interesting texture to play with in my mouth…

          • Teacher in China

            But compared to the average diet in North America at least, it’s much healthier.

          • don mario

            Fair enough. I dont really know what the standard yanky diet is to be honest. Chinese eat better than my home of uk tho. Most british eat quite poorly

          • don mario

            hot pot.

            fresh veg and thinly sliced meat that you boil yourself in soup.

            the healthiness is variable depending on if you have a soup using some fucked up recycled oil, if you use a lot of dipping sauce or if you have some processed meat ingredients. but as a standard hot pot is pretty healthy i would say.

            la mian is healthy too providing it has a good soup and ingredients. chinese like to have minimal meat and veg -99% noodles and soup. but i make mine with plenty of veg and beef.

            lots of home cooked food is quite healthy and basic too. but yea, most restaurant stuff can be pretty much not healthy.

          • Zappa Frank

            hotpot healthy? yeah maybe “some” hotpots may be healthy when the soup is not filled with oil, the problem is that or you do it by yourself or that kind of hotpot is impossible to find…Chongqing hotpot for sure is highly unhealthy. La mian is filled of cooked oil, the pasta is processed carbs, the meat is full of fats .. I wouldn’t say is healthy..of course if you do personalized at home you can make it healthy but than we would talk about your home dishes and not Chinese dishes..

          • don mario

            Well what you do with the dish could make it unhealthy sure. Fried chicken is never going to be a health concious meal. Likewise you could cover a plate of salad in a high calorie dressing and it is’nt healthy any more.

            Hot pot and la mian are healthy dishes in their basic form. The fact that restaurants add crap to them does not mean its an unhealthy dish, it simply means that you went to a restaurant. Restaurants do that everywhere. Go to someones home and you will get the real deal. Or maybe cook it yourself, thats what i do and its a pretty quick way to learn whats healthy and whats not. Hot pot is great. Gong bao ji ding…..not so much.

          • Zappa Frank

            on hot pot I agree that may be healthy, but some version, Chongqing hot pot in my opinion is at the antithesis of health, but some other like Beijing hot pot are better by far.
            About do it at home by myself, ok may be healthier but at that point if I have to do by myself I prefer to cook what I know (and I can cook), than some dishes of my homeland.

          • don mario

            macdonalds salad is not healthy either. it does not prove that a dish is healthy or not because a restaurant serves an unhealthy version to get business.

            if you prefer your home food maybe this is just a case of you not really being a fan of chinese food. cus honestly i have enough experience of chinese and italian food(my family are italian) and i don’t see italian food as any more healthy overall. i think it is simply your preference and choosing to pin point restaurants to represent all dishes over china.

          • Zappa Frank

            unless your family is arrived from Italy in that very generation I doubt they would be call Italians in Italy and I doubt their food and our food to be the same.
            about healthy is not just my idea, try to search for Mediterranean diet

          • don mario

            you doubt they would be called italians even though they are living in italy now and always have….well what the fuck would you call them then?? i would love to know.

            try to search for mediterranean diet? i have been there and ate it. infact i cook that sort of thing myself often.

          • Zappa Frank

            well, I’ve said ‘unless ur family is arrived from Italy in that very generation’, of course if they still live in Italy and have always lived there they are Italians. I’ve figured they were some italo-americans that in Italy are simply considered americans.

          • don mario

            And what gave you the idea that i am a yanky? Absaloutely nothing. Of course they are italians living in italy..as i have already stated. You are pretty arrogant i feel like questioning are you actually italian and not french???

          • Zappa Frank

            your username made me think you are a yanky. however doesn’t really change anything if you are from another country. where are you from? arrogant for what?

          • don mario

            arrogant for assuming i am a yank based on nothing, that my family are not real italians even though i have said time and time again that they live in italy. it doesnt change anything? can you even read?

          • Zappa Frank

            you know…I don’t read everything you write. since this is the first time you reply to me writing that your family (all? father’s and mother’s parents?…) lives in Italy. than for me is the first time I read about it. I told you, I assumed you were yank based on your name.. why this should make me arrogant is a mystery…where are you from again? no actually doesn’t change anything.

          • don mario

            you are seriously trying to defend yourself from not reading my posts properly? you assumed my family are italian american and i am american, even though i told you they are from italy..actually my dad lives in italy. i have been there and ate the food and i know what they eat. as i said, i also like to cook it. but you seem to think that does not qualify me to know about italian food, so yea that makes you very arrogant in my eyes. try to read peoples posts in future and not assume nonsense.

          • Zappa Frank

            Sincerely I kep on believing that you don’t have any idea of what you are talking. Again where are you from…is the 3th time I ask and still wait a reply

          • don mario

            british.

          • mistertibbs4u

            You need an ayi from the inland…

            Hired an ayi from a small village and almost everything I ate was cooked in hot water, boiled, stewed.

            Her hometown of course is of some importance, however you have to consider the fact that cooking oil in many ways is a luxury as the price is a little expensive when compared to the average Chinese wage.

            Also going over other friend’s homes I find when they eat at home, there is almost no oil used.

          • Rick in China

            Boiled food is ultrahealthy!

            If you drink all the water. That’s where tons of the nutrients end up. Thanks for pointing that out actually:

            STIR-FRY and STEAMING food retains the most nutritional value. Boiling does not. Stir-fried vegetables, regardless of having a little oil, are far more healthy than boiled vegetables of the equivalent amount/variety in terms of nutritional value provided.

          • mistertibbs4u

            Exactly, but that’s why I stated that she makes soups and stews. I don’t know many Chinese that boil something and then prepare it outside of the broth they just created.

          • Rick in China

            Soups & stews = good, yes.. but not everything can be a soup or stew. I guess it could. But that’d be a pretty shitty food experience if that’s all there was ;)

        • mr.wiener

          We’d do the same in Australia if we offered you Vegemite.

          • Dr Sun

            that’s like marmite, right ?

          • Probotector

            The purpose being?

          • mr.wiener

            While we enjoy Vegemite we are well aware that people from other countries(particularly the US where they are accustom to more sweet than savory spreads) do not.It’s always fun to see the faces they pull.

          • Alex Dương

            Do you think the main mistake is that Americans (and non-Australians in general) treat it like peanut butter and basically spread too much?

          • mr.wiener

            Most definitely.

          • vincent_t

            Same in Malaysia when we offer you Durian

          • mr.wiener

            I actually don’t mind durian.

          • vincent_t

            Then no durian for you. We only offer to those who hate it.

        • Kai

          Nah, dude, I don’t think it’s a “prank at the expense of the teachrs” in general. This is closer to the locals of any country inviting a foreign guest to try something they believe the guest has never encountered before than it is to putting a tack on the teacher’s chair.

          There’s an element of curiosity, to see how the teacher will react, but it’s also just a bunch of kids sharing something that is a known part of their lives with you. So your students offering it to you recently probably was related to this recent trend, and they probably got the idea online or at least through word of mouth.

          I don’t think they’re trying to screw with you in any malicious way. They probably wouldn’t be surprised if you didn’t like it, as they probably don’t think too highly of it anyway but eat it cuz its cheap (and maybe the spiciness helps them stay awake?). And if you do happen to like it, they’ll probably momentarily think of you as one of their own, enjoying the moment of common ground or experience.

          It’s overall harmless, and the whole thing about having an “outsider” try something foreign to them but familiar to the “insiders” is common throughout the world. They’re not gonna think you’re a loser for not liking it, but they just might think you’re a pretty cool guy if you take up their offer and give it a shot. It makes you approachable, even down to earth. Hope this gives you a different perspective on what happened. You can always ask them why they offered, and you might get even more interesting responses. Cheers.

          • Teacher in China

            Oh for sure it’s harmless, I don’t disagree about that. But judging from the Chinese comments, it seems to me that there was an intention of laughing while someone eats something unhealthy. Not in a “you’re going to die” way or anything, more like in a “he’s in for a gassy night” kind of thing. I can see how it probably started out as exactly like you said, but again judging by the life it took on and all the comments, it seemed to turn in to more of a prank to me. And definitely the kids who did it to me were giggling in a “you’re doing something naughty” kind of way.

          • Kai

            Really? Which comments suggested an intention of laughing while someone eats something unhealthy to you? The impression I came away with was a healthy amount of self-deprecating humor and strangely (!) earnest concern about NOT having people eat something unhealthy/unsafe, lol.

            As for the gassy night, wasn’t there only one comment that simply asked if foreigners would get diarrhea? I suppose you can read that as someone hatching sinister heh heh heh thoughts of rendering their foreign teacher toilet-ridden, but it could’ve also been with an overtone that while Chinese are used to such crap, foreigners from cleaner, healthier backgrounds might not have the same constitution. That’s somewhat self-deprecating too.

            I think the kids who were giggling when it was offered to you simply recognized it as something a lot of Chinese kids around the country are doing. They laugh cuz they know its a thing right now, not because they’re imagining you toilet-ridden (ooh, kinky).

            Anyway, I actually think you should try it and report your findings. One won’t kill you, and what doesn’t kill you WILL ONLY MAKE YOU STRONGER. RAWR.

          • Teacher in China

            To be honest, almost all of them together gave me the impression. Everyone seemed happy that the foreigners were eating something dirty/unhealthy, which makes me think it’s a prank. I’m willing to admit I misread that though. What I think I did was combined the story with my personal experience with that class I had. I just started teaching at a high school recently, and it was only the second class ever with this group, but I know Chinese students well enough after 9 years of teaching here to know when I’m being fucked with and when something is innocent. The reactions from most of the kids in the class led me to believe the former. I guess I projected that onto the news story.

            And no way will I ever try that shit. My stomach is living truth that whatever doesn’t kill you makes you even more susceptible to similar things down the road (not as catchy a phrase I know, but it’s the truth dammit!). I never had a weak stomach until I got 3 cases of food poisoning in my first two years here in China. Now, I find I have to be careful what I eat, otherwise it’s shitsville for me.

          • Kai

            Yeah, I think you projected a bit cuz the comments are mostly innocuous in that regard. I don’t know the kids you’ve dealt with so all I can do is offer alternative interpretations of their behavior for you to consider. Ultimately you have more information about them to judge with.

            I’m tempted to try one out as I never have. Never even ran across the things. Joe says they’re like really bad fu zhu (bean curd sticks/planks?). I have an idea of what those are like, but soaked in gasoline? Sounds exciting. Live dangerously, right? Mwuahaha, cheers.

      • Probotector

        So why are they laughing then? Because they’re acting like a retard and that’s all they can do? You’ve got a terrible judge of character and are clearly a self hating European liberal.

  • Bluex

    While they claim they it is taking over the world, they seem to forget they are now slaves of McD, KFC etc

    • Alex Dương
      • Guest

        Should stay away from bottles before commenting.

      • Bluex

        Advice to self, no drinks before commenting.

      • jin

        They are those who left that comment and those who upvoted that comment.

  • Dr Sun

    Never realised so many ESL teachers in China had “Smart board” technology in their classrooms, no if we could get that into the hospitals.

    • Ken Morgan

      It’s not, all of the UK colleges and UK universities have them… they never work properly. The bulbs have a very short working life. They need constant recalibration and the the surface sensors for writing on them fail regularly so you get dead spots all over the board.

      • If I May

        Are they made in China? Honest question…

        • Ken Morgan

          The SMART brand ones (the ones where the image is projected) were made in Canada before they moved the factories to Mexico and Malaysia in 2011. The iBoard and Eboard which are like giant touch screen phones are made by Ricoh (Japan) and Samsung (Korea).

          There are also tons of brands I’ve never heard of which I assume are made in China.

          • If I May

            OK, thanks for the info, man.

        • Ken Morgan

          Thats weird I’m sure I replied yesterday.

          But no SMART are made in Mexico (previously in Canada). The TV type ones are made in Korea and Japan.

      • Probotector

        Mine work fine.

  • Surfeit

    When I clicked on the story I thought it was going to be a lovely piece, about the fun and loving relationship between foreigners and Chinese.

    Alas, the Chinese neitz ramble on about giving foreigners cancer, and here it’s all losers and bitches.

    No news like bad news!

    • Kai

      The stuff about giving foreigners cancer is actually more like sarcastic self-deprecation. They’re remarking more about the crap they consume domestically than any real desire they have to inflict harm on foreigners. It’s like an American saying they want to export their healthcare system.

      • Surfeit

        I see, I see! I’m totally unable to pick up on that undertone, but I can sincerely imagine it. (My Chinese buddies got some sleek humour skills.) It’s cringeworthy, for people to admit that. Knowing they have it so bad they joke about it. A twisted kind of modern day poverty.

  • Loopins

    I’m just surprised at how many blackboards there are. Where are these schools? The schools I’ve worked in all have had whiteboards.

    • David

      I prefer blackboards to white boards when I teach. When you have white boards the students always draw on the board and leave the top off the markers. So when you go to write, the markers are always dead. You have to remember to carry your own markers around with you all the time.

      • Teacher in China

        And the fucking things always leak. Chalk washes off clothes and hands quickly and easily, that marker doesn’t.

      • KamikaziPilot

        And then you can also scratch your fingernails across the blackboard to make that horrible screeching sound if your class isn’t paying attention right?

        • David

          LMAO I have done it more than once. In fact you can do it with the white board by pressing really hard on the board with your thumb and rubbing it. I do not find that sound as annoying, but my students do.

      • Rick in China

        Wouldn’t dead pens be equivalent to broken chalk in this situation?

    • Ken Morgan

      I don’t like white boards, nor do I like the fancy electronic interactive whiteboards most of the Universities in the UK have. They are forever malfunctioning.

      Dry wipe white boards I dislike too. The pens always dry out quickly and somebody always uses permanent marker on them. Old school tech like blackboards… I miss them tbh.

  • cloud9

    This thing can’t be worse than salmiak liquorice with extra Ammonium Chloride.

  • Stefan

    I really like these snacks, one of my favourite actually.

  • x1sfg

    Creepy people

  • Markoff

    same here, my sichuanese wife can’t handle as spicy food as me, actually most of the Chinese can’t so I find it amusing when they think they are better at handling spicy food than foreigners, exactly same situation in Thailand which is honestly even less spicy than sichuanese

    • Teacher in China

      Yep, I regularly eat spicier stuff than my wife, her family, and all our Chinese friends. Of course, in Dongbei, it’s all about the salt, and I cannot stand any of their traditional spicy stuff because it also comes with a mountain of salt cooked into it.

      • Markoff

        well, dongbei cuisine is not particularly spicy compared to sichuanese (incl. CQ) and hunanese

        • Teacher in China

          True enough. You’d be surprised how much spicy food they eat though.

  • Rick in China

    Yeah – the problem is – they often associate all foreigners as fitting into US/English cuisine standards – to which there isn’t really much spice, unless you’re talking fusions. I mean, come on, so many countries eat super spicy food, it’s just evidence of people’s narrow-mindedness and thinking they know the world, when in fact, all they know is mcdonalds and cctv-9.

  • Zappa Frank

    same here, my wife is from Sichuan and she loves eat spicy food, I actually fit the description of the foreigner that cannot eat spicy, but it’s not lajiao, is huajiao the problem (I was told is a problem even for Chinese that are not from Sichuan). Anyway, I hate Chongqing hotpot, but don’t dare to say here because they care so much.

  • Why are most teachers over weight old white dudes?

    • KamikaziPilot

      Do you really have to ask that question? The first thing that comes to mind is that the stereotypes of English teachers may be true.

    • Probotector

      They’re not. Again, trying to be clever are you?

  • “We can now finally bring harm to foreigners.”

    hahaha

  • FYIADragoon

    I see the level of the ESLs in China still hasn’t changed. Shaving, a mystery to all ESLs.

  • don mario

    i have never tried these but they look quite shitty. i would of loved to have on film the first food i ordered in china by myself.. i had no idea what it was and how spicy it was going to be. it was hotter than the flames of hell! my pal could not take the heat but i took on the challenge and finished the dish.. a satisfying kind of pain.

  • CityHunter

    why china hires that much of foreigner teachers?…

    • SuperLaowai

      It’s a government requirement for public schools and universities to have FTs, as for the private sector students will be willing to pay much more for a foreign teacher even if it’s a Russian who barely speaks English than a local Chinese english teacher, this because Chinese have farmers’ mentality.

      • CityHunter

        that is really dumb, specially when people from your own country has to
        emigrate to find a better job…China goverment is really stupid

  • Puma G

    One time won’t hurt the teachers the Chinese eat them all the time.they eat them all day! But I got to admit there comments are funny without being harmful or tacky like black people …just saying! Go read World Star they just fowl ignorant and vulgar the videos are crappy too no matter what. As much as I hate China these people were okay they mean no harm maybe everyone has their own culture barrier it’s a communication mix up and we can’t penetrate one anothers but these commentees were great . It was threats but with no real heart in it just jokes they had no evil or true meaning of harm in anyway! But still hate this country they are evil to their children and to one another if there is a person being hurt they do not help it was shocked and if someone is hit on a motorcycle people go around them like it is garbage in America we all run at once to help it is mind blowing how
    un-empathetic they are almost like they have no conscious or no line of blood from God I always thought and still think they are alien they look like them too!

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