Chinese Weapons Used by ISIS, Hamas and Other Rebel Groups

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Killer Chinese Weapons in the Hands of Terrorists

Recently, photos online showed Ukraine government soldiers using Chinese made DJI Phantom drones for battlefield reconnaissance, this internationally known Chinese-made drone again became a popular topic of discussion. In reality, ever since this entry-level drone appeared in the Middle East, it once again surfaced on the front lines of Europe. Regarding this unmanned drone, louzhu once wrote about Chinese-made drones used by North Korea, now let us look at Chinese weapons used at the front lines of conflicts.

Civilian Unmanned Aerial Drone – DJI Phantom


About 2 months ago, Syrian militants posted online several pictures showing a DJI Phantom that was shot down. From the outside it had several bullet holes and was likely shot down by light weapons. On the side it had the words “Phantom” written on it, after searching online, this is an aerial drone made by a Chinese company, it sells for 3000 yuan on Taobao.


This is not the first time Chinese-made drones appeared on the Syrian battlefield, last november, Syrian militants claimed they used radio interference to capture a small unmanned surveillance drone and posted its pictures. American reporters found out through Taobao, that this was not a professional military surveillance drone, but only a civilian-grade aerial drone. According to a Reuters report quoting a Free Syrian Army rebel, this unmanned surveillance drone belonged to Bashar al-Assad’s army.

Divine Weapon of Guerrilla Warfare – Chinese-made 107mm Rocket Launcher


On December 14th, 2014 Hamas militants in Gaza held a military parade and displayed a Chinese-made 107mm rocket launcher. People often considered the AK-47 assault rifle, RPG-7 anti-tank grenade and the 107mm rocket launcher as three of the world’s most famous conventional weapons. 107mm rockets weighed 18.8 kg and can be carried by one person, and can be transported long distances by troops in poor terrain. The 107mm rocket launcher is not only light but can also be easily disassembled and put back together. After disassembly each individual parts weigh less than 30kg. In Afghanistan, local militants have already towed 107mm rocket launchers behind different types of vehicles, making them self-propelled rocket launchers.


In a time of need, 107mm rockets can be used without the launcher, it can be placed on the ground, aimed and launched with only a few batteries and two metal wires as its fuse. There are even reports, that Afghans used rocks to break open the back of the 107mm rocket, line them on the ground then use fire to set them off. A well-built special forces soldier can carry this rocket launcher and two rockets to the launch site, and attack the opponent’s weak point then retreat.


During the Vietnam War, Vietnam and Cambodia guerrilla forces widely used 107mm rocket launchers to attack American targets. On August 1st, 1972 at 1am, Vietnamese 174th commando regiment used 4 single[tube launchers and 2 dozen-tube launcher rockets to attack an American air force base. At the time, they secretly transported 107mm rocket launchers around the base, and fired them at the Americans from 6 different directions, 250 rockets turned the air base into a sea of fire. Destroying 74 American aircrafts including B-52 heavy bombers, causing nearly a thousand American casualties, setting fire to dozens of fuel containers, an artillery position and communications center were also destroyed.


Tens of thousands of African soldiers own this form of heavy firepower.


On December 18th, Iraqi Government forces continued their offensive toward ISIS at Sinun, during which they used 107mm rocket launcher.

ZX Auto Pickup Truck.


When the Libyan Civil War started, to people’s surprise, in the news, apart from scenes of militants carrying swords and guns, there was also the familiar Chinese pickup truck.


To the left on the front is the Chinese ZX Auto pickup truck.


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These pickup trucks went through numerous modification such as adding: 12.7mm machine guns, 14.5mm anti-aircraft guns, 107mm rocket launchers and quad 122mm rocket launchers. Even more ridiculous was adding a rocket launcher that was once used on helicopters.


ZX Auto pickup truck

On one hand, compared to heavy tanks and armored vehicles. Pickup trucks are agile and can quickly gather during an offensive, while facing a strong opponent it can also quickly retreat. On the other hand, if a tank runs on a road even for a few hundred km would require hundreds of gallon of petrol, where as a pickup truck only require a few dozen gallons, so when it comes to logistics there was no pressure, most African nations do not possess the capacity to operate heavy vehicles for battle.


ZX Auto pickup truck

From this we can see that during the Libyan Civil War, whether it was Government forces or rebels, they all used pickups as their main tool. One pickup can carry 3-5 people with supplies, they can temporarily add some weapons, whether it’s machine guns, rockets, or anti-tank missiles, they can attack and run, without leading to intense battles. Some anti-government militants on the front lines tell Western reporters that in these two days less than 10 people died, this proves that the land battles were low intensity and not a heated resistance.

ZX Auto pickup truck, you deserve to own one.

Hamas’ “Divine Weapon” – Caiyang Steel Pipe Factory Rockets


According to Israeli media reports from January 1st, 2009, on December 31st 2008 the 4 rockets fired by Hamas toward Israel’s southern city of Beersheba were made in China.

The report claimed, Hamas militants cross over the walls on the Egyptian border from Gaza on the Sinai Peninsula, to smuggle these weapons. It turns out, these are “shanzhai” rockets were made by Hamas from Chinese-made steel pipes, it had nothing to do with China.


The crudely welded rocket made by Hamas surprisingly had the Chinese words “Shandong Caiyang Steel Pipe Factory” written on it.

This “evidence” makes one not knowing whether to laugh or cry. On the left-side of the steel pipe have the serial number GB/T 3091-93, this is the registration number for China’s “Construction Material Standard”, and this kind of product was classified as a “low pressure liquid transportation welded pipe”, or simply a water pipe.

Even more laughable was the statement provided by Caiyang Steel Pipe Factory:

Excerpt from a statement by Caiyang Steel Pipe Factory regarding Hamas’ rocket material: “…these steel pipes were exported to a certain Middle Eastern natural gas company, it is intended for building natural gas pipes…how it fell into the hands of other people and made into weapons, our factory do not know. Only thing we can say is that due our factory products’ top quality and affordable price, and our customer’s foresight…We cannot reveal which country this customer originated from, but we can say it is definitely not from Lebanon.”

Chinese-made Man-portable Missile System (Manpad)


Recently, photos of Syrian opposition militants displaying a new smuggled missile began to surface. In the photo, Syrian militants showed a weapon that resembled Chinese Red Arrow-8 (HJ-8) anti-tank missile. At the same time, Syrian militants also showed videos of using Red Arrow-8 missile to attack Syrian government tanks.


Image of Red Arrow-8 blowing up Syrian government tanks.


A Syrian militant group fighting in the east of the country received at least one Chinese designed FN-6 shoulder fired anti-air missile (Manpad). Because the Syrian military did not equip this type of weapon, outsiders predicted that it probably came from other countries.

Comments on Tiexue:

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American Imperialist: we rely on selling high-tech weapons and specializes in provoking others and sabotage other people’s arms business. In doing so, we became the biggest international arms dealers, it was real hard work.

China: we rely on selling cheap and absurd civilian products which all became popular items on the international arms markets, so unbelievable.


Now the whole world knows the name Shandong Caiyang.


Even Taobao started to sell military weapons, so niubi! China is too lax toward its high-tech weapons smuggled abroad. Such high-end weapons sold at such low prices is damaging to China’s industries! I suggest raising the price, protect China’s high-tech industries!


All made in China.


Even a water pipe can be made into a rocket, this proves Chinese products pass the quality inspection.


I am from Caiyang Steel Pipe Factory, I solemnly proclaim that this have nothing to do with me.


One day when I go to Ukraine to find hot girls, the plane was shot down by a missile, Chinese experts inspected the plane. Oh my god, it was shot down by a Chinese-made missile.


The market exist because of demand, we are not like America who sells anything as long as they have money, our products are conventional weapons. In addition, terrorists bought them from a 3rd party, so this have nothing to do with China.


Made in China, spreading across the globe.

Written by Joe

Joe is a documentary producer and journalist based in Shanghai

  • RickyBeijing

    There’s a constant in the netizen comments about “America who sells anything as long as they have money”

    I’m neither American nor Chinese, so I don’t know or really care who sells what, but I’m quite sure that the US doesn’t just sell to anyone. I know Lockheed Martin, Boeing and Airbus (yes I know, not all American) don’t just sell to anyone, because they are worried about their tech being stolen and copied. I know this isn’t the case with Smith and Wesson or Colt who will sell to anyone, but they don’t make rockets. So I wonder:

    1. Where do the rockets come from?
    2. Where do Chinese get off complaining about the US selling weapons, when the kaleshnikov is the most common weapon used there, a weapon made by China’s closest ally.

    • gregblandino

      The United States is the largest arms dealer in the world, and it’s esteemed list of clients include such human rights titans as Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Nigeria, Congo, Pakistan, etc. etc. Not that china is entirely picky about who it sells it products too, though holding China responsible for the kalashkinov is a little assbackwards if you ask me. They do make a knock off that seems to pop up in the various bush wars and civil conflicts of the world.

      • RickyBeijing

        Your first line ‘The United States is the largest arms dealer in the world’ is a bit strange. Do you believe that the US government is selling weapons? Though the US has given aid in the forms of weapons and training, I’m not sure if they sell them.

        On the other hand, US companies do sell their weapons (including aircraft, firearms, tanks etc) overseas, as any free market allows. This is the same for most European countries, who usually sell to governments, NOT to random groups of people. I’m not holding China responsible for the AK, I’m pointing out the duality of them complaining about the US selling arms, when Russia’s AK is a lot more common in the areas you mentioned than anti-aircraft rockets.

        • Alex Dương

          On the other hand, US companies do sell their weapons (including
          aircraft, firearms, tanks etc) overseas, as any free market allows.

          “Free market”? You think there’s no government regulation of fighter jet sales?

          • RickyBeijing

            You failed to read the full sentence. You missed the “who usually sell to governments, NOT to random groups of people” part.

          • Alex Dương

            That would be the next sentence. Are you acknowledging that the market for fighter jets isn’t “free”?

        • mr.wiener

          I believe it was something like 50% of what gun shops in America are selling are ending up in Mexico, particularly in the border states.

          • firebert5

            Yeah, and the rest of their guns come from Eric Holder…

          • Amused

            Really? What would they want with a bunch of semi-auto civvy gear? One would think the majority of the weps the cartels were using would be coming from further south where its easier to acquire REAL firepower.

          • Hank

            According to ATF’s own report, 66% of all illegal firearms in Mexico came from the US, and an estimated 250,000 guns are smuggled from the US to Mexico every year.

          • Amused

            Yeah I know. They also refuse to provide serial numbers of the guns they’re basing claims on, which leads one to go,”huh”. Not saying guns going south ain’t happening, cuz they most definitely are. I just doubt the official numbers out of pure logic.

        • gregblandino

          The US congressional review of arms sales is explained in more detail here:
          It is not a “free market” process by any stretch of the imagination.
          While official arms sales from any country are of course registered to other countries, because to do otherwise would be in violation of international law, in reality the “facts on the ground” are that weapons from all over end up in the hands of “random groups of people.” No country is ever putting out a press release like “GUNS FOR TERRISTS YA”LL 因为 YOLO”

          • RickyBeijing

            I guess that’s fairly close to what I said, apart from the ‘free market’ portion, where one of the 5 companies I mentioned I was wrong about.

        • Hank

          Of course US have sold (not really sold, provided for free) weapons to “random groups of people” before, the most notable examples from the top of my head are the Afghanistan mujahideen during the Afgan-Soviet war (we all know how that turned out) and the Nicaraguan Contras

        • Wally

          yeah dude . The U.S did sell a lot of weapons . In fact they were the ones to arm the talibans against the soviets in the first place . Get your head out of your ass .

      • biggj

        Speaking of the Kalashinov…I wanted one so bad. But in canada the ak-47 is illegal. So I ended up buying a CZ-58 last summer. It’s Czech made and almost identical specs as the ak-47….but its completely legal. Anyway the gun is top notch. Love it. I use it for deer season. Fuck I love this gun. Just wish I could “legally” get a Ak-47.

        • Alex Dương

          Illegal as in recent sanctions or imports were never allowed?

          • biggj

            I think the imports were allowed at some point. I’m not sure when, I’m thinking 70’s or 80’s.Any fully automatic firearm is restricted. You can be grandfathered in if you owned one before the law was passed. They ban certain guns all the time, Most have to do with barrel length and other certain details of the gun. Like anything below 18 1/2inch barrel would be restricted if it where a semi automatic. Like the picture I posted would be illegal in canada to just run around with without proper papers. My gun is almost the same just the barrel is longer. Which falls under the non-restricted category. You can have restricted guns, but can only be fired at gun ranges and so on a require lots of bullshit paper work.

          • Alex Dương

            AFAIK it’s not a whole lot different in the U.S. I think we can only buy fully automatic weapons that were manufactured before a certain date. Lots of bullshit paper work if you want to own one too.

        • mr.wiener

          I’d hate to try to take down a pissed off moose or bear with that …but yeh, I bet it is a fun gun to own.

          • biggj

            This gun will fuck a bear up lol. The rounds are pretty expensive for it, I pay 240 bucks for 1000 rounds. Same exact rounds as an AK-47 takes. Usually last me all year, the only gun I have that takes that ammo. I only really use it when Im drunk or to go hunting or drunk and hunting. lol

          • Alex Dương

            Soviet surplus?

          • biggj

            Polish Mesko surplus lol I only get the good stuff…..for surplus. And by good I mean whatever the guy has at the hunting and fishing store. lol

          • mr.wiener

            Not sure I’d want to go after a bear with an assault rifle … still, when I was young and stupid I used to go after wild pigs with a crappy old M1 carbine , but I usualy had my brother backing me up with a shotgun.

          • hailexiao

            If we’re talking black bears, which are basically the size of large deer, pigs, and humans, a medium-caliber assault rifle like a Vz 58 would do just fine. M1 Carbine in .30 Carbine or AR-15 in 5.56 would definitely be underpowered though.

          • mr.wiener

            Thanks for the info, what is it: If it’s black fight back ,if it’s brown lie down? Grizzlys means you are just screwed… Glad we don’t have bears in Oz, except for the drop bears of course!

          • Don’t Believe the Hype

            Drunk moose hunting!

        • Small twon

          Real man hunts with his own bare hands and knife ! They don’t use ‘ex-communist designed for uneducated peasant’ gun !

          • Alex Dương

            I think real men use their brains. If “ex-Communist designed for uneducated peasant” works, so be it.

          • biggj

            Yeah had some guy come at me with a knife…..but I shot him. Gun 1 knife 0. lol

      • Master of Unlocking

        Russia is the largest arms dealer in the world, and China no doubt comes third after the US, and is fast catching up. Get your facts straight.

        • gregblandino

          You are factually incorrect.

          Share of international
          arms exports (%)
          2010–14 2005–09 Main clients (share of exporter’s total exports),
          USA 31 29 South Korea (9%) UAE (8%) Australia (8%)
          Russia 27 22 India (39%) China (11%) Algeria (8%)
          China 5 3 Pakistan (41%) Bangladesh (16%) Myanmar (12%)
          Germany 5 11 USA (11%) Israel (9%) Greece (7%)
          France 5 8 Morocco (18%) China (14%) UAE (8%)
          UK 4 4 Saudi Arabia (41%) USA (12%) India (11%)
          Spain 3 3 Australia (24%) Norway (10%) Saudi Arabia (10%)
          Italy 3 2 UAE (9%) India (9%) Turkey (8%)
          Ukraine 3 2 China (22%) Russia (10%) Thailand (9%)
          Israel 2 2 India (46%) Colombia (7%) Singapore (6%)

          In both the 2010-2014 and 2005-2009 time periods, the US exported more than Russia. China is a distant 3rd, and effectively tied with Germany and France.

          • Master of Unlocking

            I’ve seen a source that says differently. But the difference between the sales of the US and Russia isn’t that big, anyway. I wonder why you make such a big deal out of a four-percentage-point difference.


            Also, China’s is third, and its share is rapidly increasing, just like I said.

            More importantly, as that article says, “Generally, China and Russia are more willing than the US to send weapons to countries with spotty human rights records.”

            Somehow I get the feeling you are not the type of person to be bothered by that, however.

          • Alex Dương

            Is that Business Insider article your “source that says differently”?

          • gregblandino

            It does not. It seems to be an article written about the report that I linked to. China going from 3% to 5% market share is apparently a huge leap, but US going from from 29% to 31% market share is maintaining.

          • Alex Dương

            Yeah, that’s why I asked him. You linked to a SIPRI document from March 2015; that article cites…the same SIPRI document.

          • gregblandino

            I’m not really getting a strong “intellectual titan” vibe from Master of Unlocking.

          • gregblandino

            “Russia is the largest arms dealer in the world”

            “why you make (sic) such a big deal out of a four-percentage-point difference”

            Math wasn’t your strong suit in elementary school I take it?

            “I’ve seen a source that says differently”


    • biggj

      Man if china was number 1 on the list of arms dealers Chinese people would be like” Look how strong china is, number 1 in the world.”

      China sells like 50% of their shit to pakistan. That why all these so called “terrorist groups” have access to it. I’m sure they sell to anyone. But pakistan is there main buyer. And it’s cheap garbage. I’d much rather get russian made weapons, Cheap and well made.

      • Master of Unlocking

        It’s typical pro-China whataboutism. When the US is the #1 arms dealer in the world, Chinese people are like, “Look at the US, evil imperialist country profiting off of wars.” But if China were the #1, they would of course be bragging about how it’s a sign of China’s strength.

        Like how if the US does anything imperialist, the Chinese jump on it immediately, but if China does anything imperialist, of course it’s their right to do so and they’re only doing the same thing other countries did.

    • MonkeyMouth

      china’s been making AK’s for years

      • RickyBeijing

        I don’t doubt your statement, but some facts and decent grammar would support your point a bit more.

    • ClausRasmussen

      >> kaleshnikov […] made by China’s closest ally

      Kalashnikovs are produced all over the World with or without license from Russia. Wikipedia lists 31 different countries including Irak, Iran, and Egypt.

      The “beauty” of the Kalashnikov is that it is a very simple weapon to manufacture, use, and maintain. It would be one of humankinds great inventions if it wasn’t a weapon

      • Alex Dương

        It would be one of humankinds great inventions if it wasn’t a weapon

        It’s the symbol of freedom and oppression.

    • takasar1

      when the hell did russia become china’s closest ally….?

    • Hank

      US doesn’t sell weapon to everyone, there’s one very simple rule: as long as a country or group of rebels are anti communist the US government will not only sell weapons but in a lot of cases provide the $$ to buy the weapons from US companies. It doesn’t matter how corrupt, brutal, authoritarian the regime or group is, and it doesn’t matter what kind of human rights violations they’ve committed or what new atrocities they’ll commit with their new weapons,,, as long as they are anti-Communist its all good.

      Currently the US government is still providing military aid ($$$ + weapons) or selling weapons to a long list of authoritarian regimes with human rights track records so bad that they make China look good (for example Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Pakistan, Bahrain, Vietnam, Rwanda, Uganda etc etc etc.

  • MonkeyMouth

    so what if there is a Chinese Dick Cheney around? war is money, friends…

    • Zack Snyder

      What is worse than a Chinese Dick Cheney? More than 1 Chinese Dick Cheneys.

  • dduubb

    well at least the parts will be easy to get when isis starts the same stuf in xinjiang

  • Alex Dương

    I think it’s clear what I meant was that companies can sell to another
    country’s government, though I’m sure there are many exceptions.

    Sure, they can. But it is no “free market.” It is prohibited to sell the F-22 to any foreign government, period. And the U.S. government, not Lockheed, can cancel F-16 sales to foreign governments.

    • RickyBeijing

      Wow. Well I guess I should go out and finally get that law degree so I can learn to write more effectively, so my comments will resemble bullet-proof contracts and prenuptial agreements, so I can protect my self from nit-picky internet trolls to find one example of one hole in one small part of what I said.

      The reality is, in the case you mention, you are right, and I was wrong. and you’re being a dick instead of having a simple conversation. Congratulations, you won.

      • Alex Dương

        We are having a simple conversation. I’m giving you my opinion that it makes no sense to put fighter jet sales and “free market” in the same sentence.

        • RickyBeijing

          Well, actually, (not being a dick) but it does once we look at examples outside of the US. it seems a google search comes up with examples of people who have bought Migs in the past, and many small governments have made jet purchases when they don’t have the resources to research their own tech. I would imagine most western European countries would have fighter jets that they simply ‘bought’, most likely from France or the UK.

          I’m not a jet salesman ,man. I don’t really care.

          • Alex Dương

            OK, simple question: if China wants to buy, say, 20 Dassault Rafales, will France allow the sale? I think you know the answer is “no.”

            Calling the market for major defense equipment “free” is like saying you don’t need an ID to buy alcohol in the U.S.

          • biggj

            Maybe Taiwan could buy them. :)

      • gregblandino

        Or just not be wrong.

  • vincent_t

    they bought the drone from taobaoo??!! Pity, they should have bought the Chinese shanzai hand phone instead, those things work like random bomb, explode in your pocket or anywhere you least expect.

  • lonetrey / Dan

    Well, i suppose we have our solution to ISIS then.

    Simply wait til the Chinese counterfeit weapons fall apart in their hands, then march in!

    • x1sfg


  • Foreign Devil

    The ISIS folks have a lot of Chinese arms . but almost as many American arms. . most of which they acquired through the US trained Iraqi government soldiers.. Doesn’t matter who you sell your arms to. .. they will end up on the black market. Probably many an American soldier has killed overseas by made in USA ammunition.

  • monster

    i love taobao!
    i wanna try to buy some poision so that i can drug big dogs and something i hate.

    • mr.wiener

      Can you buy anti~psycotic drugs on taobao?

    • bujiebuke

      sounds like a plan. Just make sure you have the correct harmonized tariff schedule.

      • monster

        hahahaha, i will!
        i will use a fake id to buy then everything is under my plan.
        first poison two huge dogs that always scare me to death.
        then maybe someone hit me when i was a kid.
        i am a very terrible person anyway.

  • Byrnzie28

    There’s nothing wrong with the Palestinians defending themselves from an aggressive and illegal occupier. In fact, they have a right to resist occupation under international law.

    • xiaowang

      My ass palestinians. What are they ? Terrorist scum.

  • 42

    And people here in the west proclaiming Chinese internet has no free speech. They are discussing freely about the possibility chinese military weapons are ending up with terrorists, with pictures to prove it even.

    I don’t see European or American internet forums even bring up and question THEIR government where military spending and weapons production are sold too (you will be surprised if you do) America for instance have been providing weapons for the syrian rebels which now turned out to be ISIS supporters. Even the much feared Taliban were not only supported with weapons by the U.S. but even trained by U.S. special forces back in the days, and it backfired on them.

    We are just sheep believing our western government is doing good, look who is brainwashed? Seems we don’t need communism to have our daily doses of propaganda.

    Government crackdown in China on free speech is a myth, as long as you don’t undermine or organize anti goverment rallies, then common and ordinary chinese men and woman can discuss and criticize the goverment as they wish.

    • Joe

      I think it’s a little different here, most of the weapons listed are civilian products such as drones and trucks, while the missile systems are likely obtained from third party sources. The Chinese government didn’t directly provide arms to these militants. Also, most net users are surprised even proud their water pipes and trucks found use there, it’s not exactly a critique of the government.

      • 42

        Very obviously if you read the netizens comments, that it has a satirical tone to it. They are making fun and amazed that ordinary steel pipes can be made into weapons, and sad that their companies name is tied to it. Which leads to the fact that some of these weapons are not made by China, but by terrorists groups using chinese made parts. That is not quite the same as selling fully assembled weaponry. So this story is somewhat misleading.

        • mr.wiener

          We should also blame those states that sponsor terrorist with the sale of their mobile phones, like the Japanese, the Koreans and the Finns!

    • Don’t Believe the Hype

      I don’t think it would surprise many Americans at all. US and Russian weapons have been falling into radical Middle Eastern hands since the Russian invasion of Afghanistan and the Iran-Contra affair. Hell, they even made a joke about it in the Iron Man movies. Its sad, really, but not surprising.

    • Amused

      “Government crackdown in China on free speech is a myth, as long as you
      don’t undermine or organize anti goverment rallies, then common and
      ordinary chinese men and woman can discuss and criticize the goverment
      as they wish.”

      And sadly someone doesn’t know what free speech is all about.

      • ClausRasmussen

        You both fail to do the distinction between freedom of speech and freedom of assembly

        The OP is right that there is a large degree of free speech in China (in some ways even more than in the West), but the CCP shrewdly decided that free speech is no threat to them as long as they suppress freedom of assembly

        Keyboard warriors are harmless, it’s only when people take it to the streets it becomes dangerous

      • Dolph Grunt

        If you’re not in China, or if you have one of those handy dandy VPNs, look up Weiboscope. It’s a fascinating site. It publishes, in real time, what the government has deleted from Weibo. It’s produced out of Hong Kong.

        A couple of months ago I looked it up and found a huge trend of deleted comments referring to the leader of China as Xi Zedong.

    • Sam

      “I don’t see European or American internet forums even bring up and question THEIR government where military spending and weapons production are sold too”

      Then you haven’t looked very hard

      ” America for instance have been providing weapons for the syrian rebels which now turned out to be ISIS supporters”

      The US has supported the FSA, not ISIS/ISIL/IS. I’m sure some weapons have gotten to ISIS, but the huge majority of weapons they have are Russian. There was a study on ammunition casings found at battle sites in Syria over the past year, most was Russian and Chinese.

      “Government crackdown in China on free speech is a myth, as long as you don’t undermine or organize anti goverment rallies, then common and ordinary chinese men and woman can discuss and criticize the goverment as they wish.”

      What’s the point of free speech if not to use it against the government and authorities in charge? It’s pretty useless otherwise, no? China probably does allow more free speech on the internet then most would give them credit for, however it’s not allowed out into the open in public, it’s cracked down on in the internet (even whole stories, let alone commentating), it’s not allowed on their major media and we know that the Chinese government cracks down on certain topics specifically (Tienanmen Square, for example) and try to block them from the internet entirely.

      “We are just sheep believing our western government is doing good, look who is brainwashed? Seems we don’t need communism to have our daily doses of propaganda.”

      Isn’t what your doing just the same thing? Also I have doubts that you are Western, as it seems impossible that you’ve never come across criticism of Western governments on the internet and you think that Chinese censorship is some big topic in the West, it’s really not. This site is a rare example of being a Chinese focused site for Westerners and I think it’s also important to point out that it’s ran and was founded by a Chinese person.

      The difference between the West and China isn’t the fact that the West is faultless, but Western citizens and media and politicians actually investigate their government and try to out the skeletons in their closet. That’s something that extremely hard/dangerous to do in nations like China and Russia (and Russia is probably even worse then China now).

    • Dolph Grunt

      There are so many ways to reply to this, but I think, on behalf of the majority, the simplest reply may be the most effective.

      So my reply is this


    • Irvin

      Do you even know the meaning of “free speech”? I hope your denial don’t get you into reeducation camps soon, you practically already got one foot in with your current understanding of the government.

  • Amused

    Ummm, are we supposed to be surprised?

  • Don’t Believe the Hype

    So we shouldn’t hold China to the same standard as another because one is worse?
    How they use the equipment is not as telling as the fact that it has fallen into their hands. The fact that weapons/support/money is flowing into these conflicts should be a red flag to those in China who believe they exist innocently outside of global conflicts.

  • ClausRasmussen

    I can’t help laughing at the smugly proud spokesman of the Chinese pipe factory: “Only thing we can say is that due our factory products’ top quality and affordable price, and our customer’s foresight…”

  • Life is good

    Nothing new. We all knew China likes supporting everything anti-West.

  • YourSupremeCommander

    And in Afghan, they found this Chinese weapon:

  • KStyleBlue

    Stop, your ruining the made in China joke.