Female “Sherlock” Will Be Promoted Even After Botched Case

Female “Sherlock” Will Be Promoted Even After Botched Case

Female “Sherlock” Will Be Promoted Even After Botched Case

The media expects that Hanzhou’s superstar detective Nie Haifen, who is the first female to be awarded the prestigious title of “38” Red Flag officer since 1960, will be promoted despite a recent discovery that a high-profile case she worked in the past was botched. The detective, whose motto is “never let a bad guy go, never make a good guy stay” is famous for her work on several prominent cases and previously 100% record of convicting the correct person. Most netizens do not support the officer, saying she is “shameless” and should resign.

Source: Netease

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  • MeiDaxia

    Wait… she has her own motto?

    • Necrogodomega

      Yeah, if you haven’t been here long you may not be aware but EVERYTHING and EVERYONE needs it own motto in China. It’s been their thing since I don’t know how long.

      • TheInconvenientRuth

        I want a motto too!!

    • mr.wiener

      …Maybe even her own theme music.

    • daz

      I don’t even get half of it either.

  • Mao Zexi

    100% record of convicting the right person? How is that any different from the rest of the Chinese police force? All convictions are right in China. If there is no evidence, the suspects usually “come clean” and confess their crimes anyway after a few days. Chinese police is THAT effective.

  • Rose

    These short stories are annoying. I would like more detail on whatever this “botched case” was. The original article is quite long and has got to have more detail. I guess there is google translate…

  • daz

    From China daily, over a year ago:

    Two innocent people, a man and his nephew, were accused of raping and killing a woman, but were finally rehabilitated after being imprisoned for 10 years.

    Nie Haifen, the “ingenious detective” who was in charge of the case, has become the focus of public opinion.

    An investigation team has been set up by authorities to make a thorough investigation of Nie Haifen and others’ roles in the wronged case throughout the judicial course from investigation through prosecution and trial.

    In May 2003, Zhang Gaoping and Zhang Hui drove from their hometown Xiexian County, Anhui Province to Shanghai.

    On their way, they gave a lift to a certain Ms Wang, a native of their hometown. The next day, the woman was found dead in the field naked from waist downward.

    One year later, the court found the two guilty of raping and gave them a severe sentence. They were rehabilitated after ten years of imprisonment.

    Nie Haifen, of the Public Security Bureau (PSB), was praised by the authorities as a “Female Miracle-working Detective” and granted the honour of “National March 8 Red Banner Pacesetter.”

    In a TV program titled “Flawless–New Haifeng,” Nie Haifeng gave a self-glorification account of how under the conditions of having no evidence at all, she was able to make to make Chang Gaoping and his nephew confess the facts of their crime through “surprise interrogation” to “put them on tenterhooks”

    According to official propaganda, Nie has been in charge of major cases to give death penalties in over 300 cases at trials of first instance, with zero error.

    According to news.ifeng.com, the DNA found in Ms. Wang the victim’s nail was found to be that of a person other than Zhang and his nephew.

    Since the police were unable to find the third person, they should have released the two, but they did not. Instead, the two were prosecuted and convicted.

    Later the DNA of Gou Haifeng, the criminal of another rape and murder case, was found highly identical to the DNA found and the manner of Gou’s crime was similar to the rape and murder in the two Zhangs’ wronged case. The two were thus lucky to be rehabilitated after 10 years of imprisonment.

    CCTV interviewed Zhang Gaoping and Zhang Hui and found that the police beat them up and denied them sleep for days and nights in a row to force them to incriminate themselves.

    • Rose

      Thanks!

  • daz
  • bujiebuke

    My 2cents on the recent ChinaSmack: Sharing news from China without Chinese netizen comments is still better than no news. Most people who respond to those comments often write the same tiresome drivel:

    1. “5000 years of culture, pfff, hahaha!”
    2. “must be CCP propaganda, no other reasonable explanation – hurdur”
    3.”I get so much poon as an English teacher in China, +1 for STD”
    4. “Chinese are racists, I’m coming back to Amurica”
    5. “Fuck these peasants! I’m not racial cuz my wife is Chinese and she agrees with everything I say”

    It’s been nice to come home from work and read on the recent happenings in mainland without that other crap. If you really want to know their opinion, join weibo or whatever, and read it from there. Maybe you’ll learn some Chinese this time around.

    • Amused

      Awwww, why be salty bro? I mean, who doesn’t like getting lots of really cultured commie poon from racist peasants who agree with what you say?

      • bujiebuke

        If parroting tiresome stereotypes endlessly is your thing, then don’t let me stop you

        • Amused

          That’s me. I’m the biggest stereotype parrot you ever heard of. My parrotness is of great magnitude.

          • bujiebuke

            Well that’s great, here’s an upvote. Sorry if my OP hit too close to your home. I really wasn’t aiming for anyone in particular.

          • Amused

            Sure you don’t want to have a parrot measuring contest?

          • bujiebuke

            I have no idea what you’re talking about and I don’t think you do either at this point.

    • 山炮 ShanPao

      You come here for your news? hahahaa.

      • bujiebuke

        Where else would I find stories like these, the People’s Daily?

        • 山炮 ShanPao

          Umm, they’re all sourced from Chinese websites and social media. That’s where you find them.

          • bujiebuke

            I’m very aware of that. However, I don’t want to sign up in Chinese social media sites so I stick to ChinaSmack. It’s my personal preference. I also read the economist and new york times to catch up on mainstream news from China – that’s enough for me with the time that I have.

    • gregblandino

      While I agree with your analysis of most of the commenters, I really liked the more in depth approach CS used to have. It wasn’t just “here’s an article we translated,” it was often times multiple articles with slightly different perspectives. For just translated articles, they will never beat sites like the Shanghaiist and r/china for both volume and being the first to break stories. The translated netizen comments with the chinese popping up when you hover your mouse oveit really helped me improve my Chinese….

      • ClausRasmussen

        >> multiple articles with slightly different perspectives

        Those were the most valuable

    • Teacher in China

      That a very selective memory you have there. Many of the commenters here have more depth than that if you take the time to read all of the comments carefully.

      • bujiebuke

        No, I was speaking to a particular group and yes, often it really is a less than one sentence little gem. There really are people here who write those things article after article. If you missed them then you should look to yourself when it comes to selective memory.

        Edit.

        Readers with critical thinking skills who just happened to be married to a Chinese women would not be offended by my OP since it clearly was not aimed at them. It’s the one’s that think they can be racist because they’re married to a Chinese that I have issues with.

        • Amused

          You really gotta feel sorry for those poor guys who have been turned into a racist by their Chinese wife. They can be very insidious that way.
          My own Chinese wife likes to whisper “black people steal and the Mexicans want your job” in my ear at night as I try to sleep.
          Or maybe she’s just snoring, idk

          • bujiebuke

            “My own Chinese wife likes to whisper “black people steal and the Mexicans want your job” in my ear at night as I try to sleep.

            Or maybe she’s just snoring, idk”

            So it’s your wife, her snoring, or maybe just some random prostitute you bought for the night?

          • mr.wiener

            Can we keep this civilized please.

          • bujiebuke

            I think my OP hit a deep nerve with “Amused”, given his sarcastic and jiberesh replies. I’m game with being civil as long as everyone else is.

          • Amused

            Hey, hey, now leave your sister out of this, my racist wife doesn’t know about her yet!

          • bujiebuke

            You wrote that you can’t tell the difference between your racist (your own words) wife’s speech from her snoring. Perhaps it’s time to adjust your hearing aid?

          • daz

            You two are funny. Arguing over Chinese poon. It’s highly overrated.

          • Amused

            Ok, I’ve had enough fun. So either you’re not a native English speaker or sarcasm is a new concept in your country. Keep touching my “deep nerve” though bro, I feel so sensitive.

          • bujiebuke

            I find it amusing that you read the part of my reply to the centaur regarding hitting a deep nerve, but somehow you missed the part where I mentioned your posts were just sarcastic jiberesh.

            As I recall, you were one of those people who said 1, 3-5, not in those exact words but close enough. I’d guess that probably stung a bit and caused you to lash out at me. Not very fun to get called out on eh?

          • Amused

            Are you drunk or something? Since subtlety seems lost on you I’ll just be blunt. I deliberately used all 5 of your stereotypes in one sentence. This was a “subtle” attempt to infer that possibly I might not agree with your statement 100%.
            i.e. I feel there’s a nice mix of different people who frequent this page, and while some people are a bit inflammatory on occasion, it’s far more civil than the average page on Fox or Youtube.
            Ponder our exchange again in this light and maybe this won’t be so confusing.

          • bujiebuke

            No, you were trolling. If you actually disagreed with me, then you would have just wrote something similar to Teacher, Vince, and a few others. What I was referring to were statements you made in the past at other stories, not your initial reply to me, which was just a meshwork of your inability to be funny.

            I’ve already replied to Alex and Vince that my initial statement is a bit hyperbole. Therefore, I think your Youtube analogy is a weak attempt at an appealing for a compromise.

            There’s no confusion with me. I wrote something that hurt your feelings, and you attempted to lash out by writing something blunt and lame. I called you out, and now your trying to confuse the issue by saying that I’m the one who misunderstood you. It’s pretty clear who the person that’s confused here.

          • Amused

            Hahahaha, whatever dude. Me and my poor hurt feewings. Obviously you feel important anyway. Good luck with that whole “reading comprehension thing” :)

          • bujiebuke

            My reading comprehension is fine, just show me where you think I misunderstood you. I was not aiming my OP at you specifically, but the fact that you started to lash out tells me that you took it personally.

          • Amused

            Nope, sorry, just disagreed with you and having fun doing it. Don’t take things so seriously.

          • bujiebuke

            Ah it was just all a joke then, that makes sense… >.<

          • AiAi

            I don’t want your job,unless you are a Computer Engineer……

        • Teacher in China

          No I haven’t missed them. I know they exist. What I said was that there are also many who are not like that. I’ve been reading and commenting on this site since the very beginning and stopped for several years because of how poisonous the commentariat became. I’ve found actually that in the last year or two things have balanced out nicely. There are many on both sides, and I’m ok with that.

          • Vance

            They have found equilibrium!

          • bujiebuke

            I suppose I was a bit hyperbolic originally. The moderation has changed quite a bit which is one reason why there are not that many of those people left. I think the other reason is that they no longer get the attention that they once did.

    • Vance

      Me personally, I came to this site to learn about China and Chinese people and I’ve found the directly translated articles and translated comments to be of great help with this. For example, I’ve had the impression that Chinese people in Mainland China seem very much alike from one to the other, and that it seems easy to “lead” them (as with the directions for behavior before the Beijing Olympics, where the people actually seemed to follow them). While it does seem like these are more true for Mainland Chinese people than for some other populations, I have seen from the comments that there are many dissenters and differing opinions. We also see a self-criticism in the comments. It has seemed to me that Chinese tend to take their nationalism personally, feeling personally insulted when someone insults China the country. So having this inside look into modern Chinese Netizen culture has been very helpful to me. I do also find the reporting style to be quite different from that here in America. The articles seem more mellow dramatically written to me.

      • bujiebuke

        I understand your point of view that the translation were helpful to you, but do you realize how naive this sentence came across?

        “I’ve had the impression that Chinese people in Mainland China seem very much alike from one to the other…”

        Did you think that people from different nation all behaved the same or was that perspective reserved for China?

        • Vance

          Of course it’s naive. That’s why I started researching all things China-to learn something. It seems more so in China. Each culture has its customs, but you just try telling a city full of Americans to change something they’ve always done, good or bad. Hell, they CRIMINALIZED the horrible act of not buying health insurance, and still the same number of people go without it that went without it before. I was surprised back in 2008 when they said they put public announcements out about common public behaviors and that the people of Beijing seemed to actually do what they were asked. The girls that write to me on the dating sites from China seem relatively uniform in nature compared to the ones in the Philippines or Ukraine where there seems to be more variety. Now I like the Chinese girls. One in particular. That is why I started trying to learn more about China and Chinese. My point is that seeing on the inside of the Netizens’ world via the translations reveals the individualism that does not show so much in the world media.

          • bujiebuke

            Yeah… Americans are pretty insular and stupid in general. But I’ve witnessed a pretty big narrowing of that knowledge gap in just the last 5 years. For instance, it’s been 5 or more years since I’ve seen or heard someone requesting a fork at a Chinese restaurant. I’ve seen some random white girl buy shrimp crackers at an American grocery store. I’ve had people come up to me and try to speak Chinese. While those instances may be anecdotal, it tells me that American knowledge of China is shifting.

            That’s why I was a bit surprised when you wrote that “Chinese from mainland seem very much alike”. The last time I heard something similar was from a guy who lived most of his life in rural Kansas with a population of 15 in his “town”. You don’t come across like that guy at all, but it seems like your equating your online dating experience to people in China in general. I wouldn’t be surprised if many of these girls your referring to are seeking a marriage visa, which might explain why they’re “uniform”.

            I understand your trying to find love in another country, it seems like a worthy adventure and I hope you continue to share your experience with us. I would just caution not to draw too many conclusions based on your experience with Chinese women only.

          • Vance

            I love shrimp crackers! Ah the memories. That knowledge gap narrows because of the Internet bringing the world together, and China itself is opening up to outsiders. Yes the ones seeking online may be of a certain uniform demographic group. For example, many seem to be of the wealthier upper class. I know that this is a small portion of the population. I was not making assumptions other than that when I came across the possibility of ending up with a Chinese lady, I had several surprises, not the least being that there are a lot of women seeking marriage to foreigners. In other countries where this is the case, the number of women is far greater than the number of men. In the Philippines, it is something like 3 women to every 1 man. I could actually see this with my own eyes when there. You can see far more women than men. I have read that Ukraine faces similar demographic circumstances. China, on the other hand has more men than women, so I was curious as to why so many Chinese women were on these dating sites. One thing I am seeing that contradicts the popular opinion on the web: Many say Chinese women are gold diggers. Most of the ones contacting me seem to offer their great wealth to me if I end up with them. Contradictions. So I came to learn. I admitted to lack of knowledge and that is why I found Chinasmack’s mission so helpful. Thanks for your support in my mission. I’ll keep all posted.

        • ClausRasmussen

          It is a naive point of view but also very common for Westerners without much knowledge about China. The point is that ChinaSMACKs translated articles and comments made us realize we were wrong and changed our mind

          • Vance

            Exactly!

        • dag

          You sound like Kaipan.

          • bujiebuke

            I’d like to think that I’m a bit less verbose ;)

            For the most part, Kai is a bit more clear in his posts than mine, I don’t always have the patience to edit posts that I know some people will selectively read anyways.

    • Alex Dương

      I wouldn’t say that most people make these comments. IMO, without actually tallying comments, I think it’s really just a few people who repeatedly say some of these things over and over and over again, especially #1, #2, and #5. They know who they are, and so I won’t name them.

      • bujiebuke

        Similar to what I replied to Vince, In retrospect I would probably remove the word “most”. These people tend to rally a big crowd from time-to-time and swamp out other voices. I don’t know if it’s due to more active moderation, or that they no longer get the same amount of attention, but a few of those people have indeed left.

        • Alex Dương

          Yes, for #5 in particular, two people who used to repeatedly make that kind of comment have been banned. Not because of #5 itself but because they were asked to be polite and refused.

    • moop

      1. “5000 years of culture, pfff, hahaha!”
      eh, who cares? as long as chinese citizens brag about this then this will be a common retort.

      2. “must be CCP propaganda, no other reasonable explanation – hurdur”
      how has citizen journalism faired in the heavenly kingdom? who owns the media that report these stories? that’s the problem with government owning media, 100% of it is propaganda, the only question is how much the story has been sanitized, and considering china’s track record with the truth (and making awesome videos using topgun), can you really blame people for this? Hell, most of us are skeptical of news that isnt government owned.

      3.”I get so much poon as an English teacher in China, +1 for STD”
      eh, i wouldnt know, as i’m happily married, but the way i look at it is for each one of these douchebags is a girl looking to take advantage. it evens out.

      4. “Chinese are racists, I’m coming back to Amurica”
      Chinese are a homogeneous society, regardless of the 1000 miniorities or whatever that enjoy such glorious treatment from their han overlords. the population is overwhelmingly Han, and homogeneous societies tend to be racist, as there is a lot more “othering” going on. as chinese do not live in a pc-obsessed society that many of us come from, it hurts our fragile pc-addled brains when we hear race discussed frankly, whether it is coming out of the mouth of a peasant or scholar

      5. “Fuck these peasants! I’m not racial cuz my wife is Chinese and she agrees with everything I say”

      eh, i’ve been accused of using this excuse, its one that a lot of people can’t seem to grasp their heads around. it’s not a foreigner’s fault that china’s society kinda sucks. 90% of chinese will say the same if they trust you enough and dont have a camera in their face. but as china is homogeneous, any criticism on the society or “values” is viewed as an attack on race. i believe most people, whether they articulate it well or not, are critical of and hold ill-will towards chinese “values” and society, rather than the race themselves.

      • bujiebuke

        I think you misunderstood me. I wrote that it was tiresome to read the same kind of comments story after story. Whether I agree with them or if I understood the context of these comments is completely unrelated.

        Aside from point #3, I agree with most of the criticism when it’s put in context of a societal perspective. It’s unfortunate people often attempt to tie race with certain types of behaviors when it’s clear that it isn’t. I’m not skillful or patient enough to dig through the past comments, but several of those offenders have written discussions on how they think these bad behaviors are genetic in mainlanders.

        I don’t understand what you mean by “even out” in point 3. Douchy people are just that, they’re deplorable human beings that are unrelated to gender or race. I’m not sure how the misguided behavior of one segment of a population would negate another equally offending sub population.

        I don’t think you understood point 5. There are a number of misguided foreigners here who have Chinese wife’s and then believe that they can’t be racist because they’re married to one. Their criticism of Chinese society is heavily weighed on race and they selectively observe all the bad behaviors as being race based. There’s a difference between criticism on society over race, and these people favor the latter.

        • my question

          I’d like to say something about #3…. there are a lot of guys who come here to get laid, they think that being white here means that all the Chinese girls will fall all over them. i understand this ill feeling you have towards them. That being said, nobody seems to ever want to address the fact that there is a large amount of Chinese girls that just want to sleep with a foreigner to give it a try, or to say that they have tried it too. you may think that this is not true, but i promise you it is. I have been in China for a while now, I am not looking for a hookup. But more often than not, when i meet a girl here, I am the one who is looking for more. Yet I am still the one who is looked at like the one who wants to sleep around. Again, yes I understand that there are guys who just want to get laid and move on to another girl, but there are also many girls here who just want to bang the monkey king. And I’m curious as to why nobody ever talks about that

          • bujiebuke

            “i understand this ill feeling you have towards them”

            If I came across this sentiment to you, then it was unintended. What I tried to convey was that it’s tiresome to read statements like, “well I got tons of chicks, hahaha”. Especially when I’m having a disagreeing conversation with them that they just randomly pull that statement out. They come across as juvenile assholes.

            People do talk about women who go after foreign men, Chinasmack had a whole string of articles on that subject for over a month. I guess you were not a member of yet. I invite you to go look those up or ask one of the mods to provide a link. It got ridiculous and received some backlash from many members.

            I like the monkey king part – is that what Chinese women refer to foreigners?? I’ve never heard that before!

          • nickhz

            yeah, I have actually heard that. But I have a beard so… maybe that’s why.

      • Alex Dương

        Re: #2, I have no love for the CCP; I just think people shouldn’t be stretching to blame CCP propaganda when clearly there are other, more reasonable explanations.

        Re: #5, I agree that bad aspects of modern Chinese society are not the fault of foreigners. Going back to my point above, I’d say this is an instance where the CCP can be legitimately blamed as they destroyed a good chunk of traditional Chinese culture and values back in the 1970s without offering good replacements.

        But at the same time, it is not China’s fault that these foreigners came to China. So yeah, some things may suck, but these people chose to move and live with it.

  • bujiebuke

    @gregblandino and @neverbeentochina

    You both make good points when it comes to the pop ups – this may be especially helpful to people who are curious about China but don’t have the time or means to learn it. I also completely forgot about the news article that usually comes with these stories. The reporting style in China is difficult for me to digest so I usually skim it.

    When your always reading about a reporter writing things like: “suddenly wu got upset and without anyone noticing slashed his puppy”, it makes me wonder if the integrity of the reporter is entirely there.

  • ClausRasmussen

    If I had to choose between the Chinese comments and the Western comments here on this site, I would chose the Chinese. The comments in this discussion forum can be found elsewhere, the translated Chinese comments made ChinaSMACK unique

  • Vance

    Maybe the site made the error of still referring to Crimea as part of Ukraine?