Guinea’s New Currency Sports Chinese Built Dam

Guinea’s New Currency Sports Chinese Built Dam

The center of Guinea’s newly circulated 20,000 franc note as of 2015 now sports a picture of the Kaleta Hydropower Station, the building of which was contracted out to a Chinese company. After the completion of this station, power outages in Guinea are expected to be greatly reduced and the economy should prosper. It is expected to be completed and with it their need for energy satiated by the end of May. Chinese Netizens respond by saying Guineans should be thankful for the free gift. This is a lot like giving a fool 100 RMB and the fool then knowing that they have to call you “Dad”.

Source: Netease

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  • Edward Kay

    Damn!

  • Paul

    Building up soft power is going to be such a challenge for China given how arrogant many Chinese are when comparing China to other (especially poorer) countries…helping poor countries build infrastructure would help if only Chinese nationalists would keep their mouths shut.

    • Amused

      Let’s be fair man, people in most countries look down on those in countries less fortunate than theirs to one degree or another.

  • Amused

    Sounds cool! Really good to see a story where China is giving back to the rest of the world :)
    Just please, please, please, don’t let this have been made by a typical Chinese contractor.

    • bujiebuke

      Just please, please, please, don’t let this have been made by a typical Chinese contractor.

      I’ve never read a story like this where they didn’t use Chinese contractors to build these types of infrastructures.

      • Amused

        If you reread that sentence again, the word “typical” might jump out at you. By wording the sentence this way I’m saying I hope they use the atypical Chinese contractor who DOESN’T use substandard materials.

        • 42

          If it gets the job done, who cares what the quality of the material is. It is very common for building contractors to balance their materials and build in a cost efficient way. In this case we are talking about a hydro-power station, not some household product. I doubt that they will use materials of any less and China has experience in building hydro power stations (three gorges dam). So its getting kind of old and silly accusing anything Made In China as being inferior quality.

          • Amused

            While it would be awesome if products that were made in China of a better quality than they currently are and could be broadly trusted by the world, that day has not yet arrived.
            And anyone who tells you they’re at that level now is “drinking the kool-aid”.

          • 42

            The point is that it doesn’t matter if products from China are now at a high quality level or not. Rome was not build in one day. The main point is that if you don’t try you most definitely wont improve. Eventually they will get there. It’s impossible not to gain improvement by continuous trials and effort.

            For example software development, a perfect application without bugs doesnt exist, even Microsoft windows produces updates and fixes everyday as we speak to improve their product. If a software company wait till its software to be perfect before releasing it to the public, then they are never going to be able to release it.

            So the issue is not about producing high quality products or not, the focus should be on maintenance. Even if this hydro power station is not flawless, they still can improve it over time with proper maintenance and upgrades to an extent that it might be running flawlessly in the future.

            So focusing and accusing of a developing country of producing lesser quality products is a narrow minded way of thinking.

          • Amused

            ” its getting kind of old and silly accusing anything Made In China as being inferior quality”…….
            “it doesn’t matter if products from China are now at a high quality level or not”…….

            Drugs are bad m’kay….

          • 42

            excuse me, grammar police!

            Because I said it doesn’t matter if products from china are at a high level or not, doesn’t mean products from china are not of a high quality!

            yes its a thinker…..

            maybe if you lay of the booze you can figure it out.

          • Amused

            Dude, you’re the one arguing against yourself…. Perhaps you feel conflicted about that half a yuan you get per comment?

          • 42

            yes you are making me money, I gathered enough to buy my lunch for today, thank you!

          • Amused

            Awesome man, what’d you eat? I had bao zi here.

          • mwanafa

            The good reason that Chinese are making low quality products is because they want to save money not because they don’t have the technology or they don’t know the what-nots. I witnessed a couple of projects in Africa from Chinese companies in which things started to break before they were finished. One of the stadiums made by Chinese had the seats broken before even there was a first game on it, and the great thing which is worth noting is that the Locals refused to work on it if the company will not raise the daily pay(it was very low compared to local companies payment), you know what happened after? The company recruited about 200 Chinese construction workers from China to work there, they recruited them from China paying them a little more than what they can get working as construction workers in China.

        • bujiebuke

          I understood that “typical” aspect but I can see why you might assume I didn’t. I’ve never read a story where Chinese contractors working on a large project in an African country didn’t botch things up in some form or another.

      • fdawei

        Correct, bujiebuke. Chinese construction firms “tender” and receive the contract do do everything, from the excavation to the final pouring of concrete. Favors must be passed back and forth between the various parties to ensure the work proceeds as “planned.” I worked in Africa for many years and was witness to many of these business dealings.

        • mwanafa

          Bujiebuke is having some kind of a week/month, he don’t know nothing about Chinese but to blindly play a devil’s advocate, so much of the threads he’s been commenting on these days makes you wonder if he is “Alex +(read plus) Kai -(read minus) the good logic flow and intelligence”

          • Alex Dương

            I assure you he is his own person.

          • mwanafa

            Sorry Alex, I was not implying he is one of you guys, I just meant he is trying to play the mod, but without you know..

          • bujiebuke

            he don’t know nothing

            I see we’ve been watching game of thrones lately…

          • mwanafa

            It’s a great thing that you have noted that, makes you a good Pig I suggest, bujiebuke!

          • bujiebuke

            It’s a great thing that you have noted that, makes you a good Pig I suggest, bujiebuke!

            You meant suppose?

          • mwanafa

            No I meant suggest unless you want to put it your own way.

          • bujiebuke

            How does noting an aspect of someone’s writing “suggest” them to be a pig?

          • mwanafa

            Because your profile pic is a pig(猪八戒), isn’t it?

          • bujiebuke

            So anyone who calls out your “argument” is a pig?

          • bujiebuke

            Why don’t you just tell me what your problem with me is and maybe I’ll address them, assuming I can understand your writing.

          • mwanafa

            Non, no problem at all, I just gave my take on how you have been attacking others lately

          • bujiebuke

            -(read minus) the good logic flow and intelligence”

            Give me an example of where this is true

          • mwanafa

            Well, I will reply you for the last time, face it mate, you don’t have it(just what you just copied, it’s way above your level, like it or not) .

            You are trying hard to make sense but it’s just not in you, just look at how you attacked another commenter from another post which proved that you didn’t even read the post throroughly.

            You jumped into maths, and you didn’t know better.
            Now you are correcting every single minute not-in-a-topic grammar mistake that I made.
            Relaxe bro we are not in a Gaokao here, we are here to understand our Chinese counterparts and the things happening in this great country.
            Ciao.

          • bujiebuke

            No, what I admitted was that the article could be referring to the total weight lost or an 8 million RMB loss from just the last two weigh-ins. I made that perfectly clear, but people like you insist on focusing one small aspect over the larger picture.

            To put this in some context, Jahar was on a rampage in making an ass out of himself. In another story, he was saying that 1% and 3% were “big”, yet his math was all wrong. At one point, he claimed to be an educator. I called him out and stated that an English teacher would not communicate so poorly.

            I’m under no obligation to explain to you or anyone else for that matter, the frequency that I post or what my motivations are. I have enjoyed reading stories from this site for many years and on occasion, I will body slam anyone that I think is getting out of line. You’re just a recent idiot in a line that thinks anyone who dissents from your point of view is trolling. The fact that you use “we” to suggest that you’re writing on the behalf of others shows how big of a coward you are. At least be half a man and own up to your own words FFS.

          • mwanafa

            Only one person made an a$$ of themselves at that post, you! and congrats for that, especially with the childish slogans accompanied with sarcasm denouncing his intelligence. Jahar was way too polite to take your insults easily, did you even bothered to say “I am sorry”?
            Shaming him like that to make you feel better, huh?
            Eplaining that it was referring to whatever you want to put into the context doesn’t make you innocent. You made a punch to a person who was right and you were corrected only to just say “it makes a fair point”,
            Do you wanna go that road?
            No I don’t, whoever is fucking stupid here is you mate, stop acting all mighty high here while you are just a piece of crap who can not even understand some basic conversational skills with strangers. No it’s not about grammar and some bad maths mistakes that we have decent conversation here, come with another insult for how I use “we” to represent most of the people here ijiot

          • bujiebuke

            Well, I will reply you for the last time

            I guess that was a lie.

            I can tell you’re a bit too thin skinned to make comments here. If you consider my comment to him “a punch in the face”, then let me apologize to you for future comments that you may receive from me.

            Do you wanna go that road?

            No I don’t,

            I guess that was a rhetorical question?

            It’s not really an insult if it’s true. Who are “we” in this case? Who exactly are you representing?

          • mwanafa

            And you said somebody was making an a$$ of himself, makes me wonder where you put your head every time you have to sleep.

          • bujiebuke

            Edit:So you agree that you were stupid and being an ass of yourself on that?

            I can tell you’re a bit like Jahar who has some severe reading comprehension. Despite making an effort to be clear, I think much of what I write is disregarded by people like you. You may just as well cut and paste words that I’ve written randomly and then reform them however you like.

            dig it?

            what was the new topic?

            ijiot

            I assume that’s your name in IRL?

          • mwanafa

            Man your idiocy is way beyond idiocity, who’s doing the cutting and pasting of posts from the other?
            Damn you are pathetic, you talked about another topic of percentage of students who were cheating in USA, I don’t remember talking about it anywhere.
            You are the one who has severe reading comprehension here, and you keep showing it to the world, shamelessly. And you are the one copying and pasting my posts and reform them however you like, which is ironic.

          • mr.wiener

            @mwanafa:disqus @bujiebuke:disqus
            Lets agree to disagree and end this please.

          • bujiebuke

            OK. This will be my last response to you on this topic.

            Man your idiocy is way beyond idiocity, who’s doing the cutting and pasting of posts from the other?

            This is called blockquote, it makes it easier to reference what you said earlier and puts everything in context. Here, it looks like you were looking for a synonym for “idiocy” so you just made up a word instead of looking up on a thesaurus.

            You are the one who has severe reading comprehension here, and you keep showing it to the world, shamelessly.

            My reading comprehension is fine. I think anyone reading yours and Jahar’s post can tell it’s not from a native English speaker.

            Jahar’s problem wasn’t from just this story, it’s been an accumulation of his posts that I take issue with. You seem to ignore this aspect and focus on this story alone.

          • mwanafa

            Thank you so much for that new term(Read terminology if you are bujiebuke), it’s really enlightening for us non-native(replace that with any terminology that you think it fits for a person whose English is not his/her mother-tongue)
            You said I was looking for a synonym for “idiocy”?, sorry to disappoint you, I didn’t even bother to look for any synonym for that word, it just happened that way, and I like to put it that way.
            Piggy, comprehension =/= composition.

            If I can read and understand clearly whatever someone wrote, my comprehension is …. good(everybody clap your hands)
            But if I can read and fail to understand(of which you do all the time) whatever someone wrote, your comprehension is not good.
            Now, you seem to confuse composition vs comprehension and you didn’t even bother to look it up on a thesaurus(on ya face beatch).
            No one like you Michael Jackson, I am ur no. 1 fan.
            The second commenter quoted(copy and paste, blockquote… whatever) the first part of that sentence and said “everybody likes Michael Jackson, fuck off you idiot”
            Guess what happened? The second commenter had all the upvotes and no matter what the original commenter said after that, people told him to go FHOS(F*** His Own Self)
            .This is the game you are playing.
            Why do you feel the need to copy a part of my comment from just above and say it’s the context of what I wrote?
            Context is not determined by one sentence, the whole post is, goddamn it.

          • bujiebuke

            No one like you Michael Jackson, I am ur no. 1 fan.

            Too much crack is bad for you my friend, consider getting off of it. mkay…

          • mwanafa

            I appreciate your concern “my friend”, but I ain’t doing no drugs, but what concerns me is your stupidity.
            Didn’t you see that I quoted someone else’s comment? And you think your comprehension is good while I ( and many others not just Jahar and I have to explain a lot to you to make you understand what they/we meant)
            Plus, just FYI, I didn’t write that, I quoted someone else who is a native English Speaker, L.A born and raised
            I asked you why do you feel the need to copy and paste(call it whatever you wanna call it but it’s still copy and paste) just a part of someone’s comment which is just above your post and you ignored that but kept copying a single sentence and accuse me of doing cracks, you just wanna pick up some bad worded parts and f*** the rest? You didn’t even read that part, did you? You just look at the gramma( yes, I wrote gramma FGS, go copy and paste it down and brag to your English teacher or your grammar police friends that you caught one)
            Even a novice computer programer can write a simple, stupid program to scan and analyse whether there is any comment made on CS which have grammar mistakes, copy it and paste the grammar mistakes error found and add some idiotic remarks on it all the while igoring the whole content of the comment.
            You strike me as a person who just learned the language and trying to show off that “I can speak/write English Better than you”, but not focussing on the subject at hand.
            I don’t give a rat’s ass shit about grammar, I speak 10 languages, Chinese is my favorite because my mom’s Native language is Chinese, and I love her to death. Add that to Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Russian, French(My second favorite), Icelandic(the most difficult language on earth), Swahili and Africaans, you can fill in the rest.

          • bujiebuke

            Thanks, I’ll make sure to read all of this.

        • bujiebuke

          I worked in Africa for many years and was witness to many of these business dealings.

          That’s interesting. Do you have an estimate of how much kickback the local leaders get for allowing them to do the constructions? I’ve always wondered if they’re aware of what’s going on or are completely clueless.

  • Claude

    I’m sure this “gift” has nothing to do with Guinea’s natural resources such as iron ore, bauxite, gold or uranuim. China will need back room deals in return for this gift. I’m stating the obvious. It appears the Chinese don’t understand soft power looking at those comments.

    • mwanafa

      No, it have nothing to do with natural resources, it’s a gift, China and Africa are “brothers”

  • 42

    China is showing how you make friends not WAR.

    • donscarletti

      Cannot compare to the amount of railways, dams, public institutions, power plants and roads built by the British during the Raj and scramble for Africa.

      The Raj was pretty much a soft power exercise for most of its history too. Most Rajahs and Maharajahs happily and conscientiously supported the Raj because they were seen as a more capable and less demanding alternative to the Mugals. By the time the British actually had to fight a proper war (1858), it already directly or indirectly controlled most of India and had a home-territory advantage.

      Africa was the same. The only war of conquest that needed to be fought was against the white Boers in South Africa. Even the Zulu wars were mostly fought on friendly ground, though Zulu territory was annexed in the end.

      The Alexander model of imperialism has not worked for millennia. Empire building in the modern era is always about the camel first putting his nose into the tent. First make deals, investments and alliances, then send the local ruler’s son to Eaton (or Qinghua). Eventually you don’t have to invade.

    • guest

      Or maybe China can give Japan Diaoyu as a gift to say sorry for the invasions of the Yuan dynasty.

      • Alex Dương

        You know more than 600 years separated the Yuan invasions of Japan and Imperial Japan’s invasion of China, right?

        • guest

          Yes, I do.

          • Alex Dương

            Great. So then you also know how absurd it is to try to tie the 13th Century Yuan invasions of Japan to the 20th Century Imperial Japan invasion of China.

          • guest

            Well, given that I was replying to a post that is highly politicised and unlikely to happen in the current political climate between the two countries on the situation at hand, not withstanding another buzzword “ancestors” which can imply a timeless value, I would had thought that I was being sarcastic.

          • Alex Dương

            Clarification noted.