Migrant Worker Dies After Lying on Street for Over 20 Days

The overpass under which the migrant worker died.

The overpass under which the migrant worker died.

From Sina:

Zhengzhou Health Bureau Responds to Migrant Worker Dying on the Street: He Refused Medical Treatment

According to a Henan Business Daily report on December 1, at noon on November 30, a migrant worker died after lying under the Zhengbian Road Overpass on Zhengzhou City Zhongzhou Avenue for over 20 days. During which time, people from 120 Emergency Services came and then left again unwilling to receive him. 120 claims, if the patient is unwilling to go to the hospital or does not need emergency help, they will not drag them away.

In December 2 morning, the Zhengzhou Health Bureau sent a statement to this website explaining the situation, detailing the emergency responses between 2012 October 1 to November 30, with the original text of the statement below.

2012 December 1, after certain media reported the “Zhengzhou Migrant Worker Dies after Lying Under Overpass for Over 20 Days, 120 Emergency Services Saw Without Helping” matter, the Zhengzhou City Health Bureau Party Committee attached high importance to the issue, with the bureau leader personally delegating and instructing the Zhengzhou City Emergency Medical Rescue Center to earnestly investigate and handle the matter. The preliminary investigation results are as follows:

It is understood that, between 2012 October 1 and December 30, there were two emergency rescue records regarding the overpass between Zhengbian Road and Zhongzhou Avenue:

2012 November 22 6:59pm, Zhengzhou City Emergency Medical Rescue Center Command & Dispatch Hall received an emergency call, with the caller claiming: A migrant worker under the overpass between Zhengbian Road and Zhongzhou Avenue was in need of emergency treatment. The nearest Zhengzhou No.1 People’s Hospital First-Aid Station was dispatched. The first-aid personnel arrived at the scene at 7:11pm, and through questioning the patient himself, the patient said his name was Liu Hongwei, was 38-years-old, began experiencing fatigue an hour earlier due to not having eaten normally over the past two days, and told the first-aid doctor that he had no previous history of disease or drug allergies. Through an examination on the scene: The patient was conscious, blood pressure and other vital signs were normal, blood glucose levels were normal. The first-aid doctor asked the patient to go to the hospital for further examination and treatment, and the patient declined. Then the first-aid doctor took out the only 5 yuan he had in his uniform and gave it to the patient’s co-workers beside him to buy food for the patient. The first-aid doctor informed the patient himself and the person who made the emergency call of the patient’s current condition, and then left with their consent, informing the patient and the caller to immediately call 120 if the patient should feel unwell.

2012 November 30 12:31pm, Zhengzhou City Emergency Medical Rescue Center Command & Dispatch Hall received an emergency call claiming: A migrant worker that has been lying several days under the overpass at Zhengbian Road and Zhongzhou Avenue has been discovered to be no longer responding to calls. The City Emergency Medical Rescue Center immediately dispatched the nearest Zhengzhou No.1 People’s Hospital First-Aid Station for the emergency. The first-aid personnel arrived at the scene at 12:42pm, and upon examination, the patient was unconscious and unresponsive, without vital signs, arms and legs cold and slightly stiff, and the electrocardiogram a straight line with the patient being declared dead at 2012 November 30 12:47pm. Because death occurred before the rescue, the cause of death is temporarily unable to be determined, the first-aid personnel informed the police of the patient’s condition, handed the body over to the police for processing, and left.

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We hereby explain the situation and also express our deep condolences to the unfortunately deceased migrant worker.

Comments from Sina:

手机用户 [天津]:

When Mao Zedong was still alive, the medical personnel of hospitals would help the dying and heal the injured. Nowadays, hospitals will not help if they see the patient is without money. Where did the humanity of socialism go? The tragedy of China…

光速云端 [辽宁沈阳]:

Harmonious society! Bullshit! The people are speechless…

bleeldf [广东中山]:

Even if this man refused medical help, it doesn’t mean he wanted to die. He simply couldn’t afford the medical treatment, and could only afford to die. This is the new age version of The Little Match Girl.


You hospitals only know money. Without money, you guys won’t save people.


The dead cannot talk. With today’s “angels in white” [doctors and nurses], no money means no medical treatment, which is simply devils amongst angels!


If you told him it was free, would he have refused [medical treatment]?


Why did the migrant worker refuse medical treatment? Have you ever thought about it?


Why would a normal person not have the desire to survive? You clearly knew his refusal of medical treatment was equivalent to a slow suicide, yet you still didn’t help him. What kind of aid is that?

手机用户 [广东深圳]:

Nowadays, hospitals and doctors are all inhumane beasts. To peasants, they are not angels in white, but demons instead.

江炽名 [福建厦门]:

A tragedy of society.


The biggest reason is that he didn’t have money.


Fuck, if you treat him for free, would he not accept it? If you really wanted to help, could he want be treated?

手机用户 [贵州贵阳]:

While the officials wine and dine, the poor die of cold by the roadside.


It’s simple, he didn’t have money for medical treatment.


Refused medical treatment, just how much courage did it take the Zhengzhou Health Bureau to say such a thing!

jun000586 [江苏盐城]:

Pitiful migrant worker, frightening society, loathsome government officials.

手机用户 [江苏无锡]:

To die in a strange land is so sad. Where have the Party and the government’s warmth gone?

作业本N [北京]:

A joke, a lie, he himself didn’t want to live, but to die?

QQ-11 [河南周口]:

May I ask the people who live in our country, that when someone dies by the road, is there no one who is supposed to be responsible for the death of this life? Is this society not responsible? The Old Society was just like this, so is the New Society no different?


The migrant worker refused medical treatment, why?! Is it possible??!! Now that he’s dead, you go ahead and say whatever nonsense you want. This incident reveals the problems of China’s medical system.

Written by Peter Barefoot

Peter is a born and raised Chengdunese who enjoys drinking with all his friends.

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    • Germandude

      What did you really want to say? My guess would be: Oh fuck, I forgot the S!

    • the ace of books


  • Jennster

    Shanghainese shouldn’t increasingly call Chinese migrants Huang Ch0ng/locusts as we are all Chinese despite some weird manners. However I can understand why a lot see Eastern European and tourist visa English teaching laowai as Huang Ch0ng.

    • MidniteOwl

      Once in China, you become a locust among other billion locusts. Eat something, eat someone, eat oneself.

      • Jennster

        You are a locust if you suck up a place’s resources. Locals don’t call Chinese from other regions waidiren. There is a difference.

        • Jennster

          Locals call*

      • s3ppo

        Once in USA you are a maggot. You can be transported anywhere, deposited. Then you will eat any mission from the inside out to make democracy. Fuck sovereignty

    • FuckYouJennster

      Jackass. You are a fucking huangchong.

      • Jennster

        haha tourist visa having english teaching huangchong detected.

    • Super Bunny

      your an idiot…
      there are many states and places much better than shanghai, and do not forget we are all chinese, if our state is not rich and strong, westerns look down all of us…do not bullshit any more, put your heart at the right place.
      people like u only make foreigners look down chinese more.

      • Germandude

        Na, Super Bunny, I think you are misunderstanding. Most foreigners I know in Shanghai (and I know really many alone through my job), actually think that people from outside of Shanghai are much nicer than Shanghainese. Plus, Shanghai is not a beautiful city in most of the westerners eyes. In fact it’s a shithole with the most primitive and materialistic people of China.
        If you asked me about the prettiest cities in China, I’d say the following:

        1. Qingdao (beautiful, clean, calm, the city got flair and people there are relaxed)
        2. Xiamen (lovely place, friendly people, good food)
        3. Xi’an (historically interesting, full of culture)
        4. Beijing (Forbidden city and other historical sites make it great, but the smog…)
        5. Guangzhou (food and people are great)
        no idea which position: Shanghai (spectacular skyline, great public transportation, but the food is bad, people are the most unsympathic, simple minded, money worshipping whores, only good for business)

        There are a lot of other cities that are nice in China, simply can’t list them all.

        • radbab

          Shanghai is weird. Most backwards people, most modern looking city. People in most other Chinese cities I’ve been to were much friendlier and better behaved.
          Even Beijing is a welcome relaxation from Shanghai. Although I think Chengde is my favorite place. A bit dusty but people are nice and relaxed and don’t see you just as a walking laowai wallet.

          • Kai

            I’m having a really hard time understanding where people think Shanghainese people are backwards. Are you guys sure you’re not seeing the migrant workers and mistaking them for Shanghainese. There are bad behaviors amongst the Shanghainese as well, but in number and ratio, there’s no way they are collectively more “backwards” than many Chinese from elsewhere. Simply living in dense cosmopolitan urban environments predispose people to being less “backwards” by the conventional sense. I’m not saying all Shanghainese are portraits of poise and civility (far from it), but “most backwards” is really a stretch to me as a resident of Shanghai who has also been to many other cities in China.

            I can understand the “Shanghainese aren’t friendly” stereotype (coupled with them being stuck-up) but I’m not sure about Shanghainese not being “better behaved”. That doesn’t fit my experiences and impressions. What behavior are we talking about?

            The funny thing is that a lot of Beijing people think Shanghai is a welcome relaxation from Beijing. There’s a grass is greener on the other side of the fence thing going on in my experience.

          • radbab

            I think you see backwards just as the opposite of materialistic modernity. When I say backwards I mean people’s attitudes, morals and behavior. And yes, maybe I’m including migrant workers in my “big picture of Shanghai”. But why not? When you talk of NYC, HK or LA you’re too referring to it as a whole – or did I make a mistake and you only mean the pure bred locally raised residents when referring to those cities?

          • Kai

            Sorry, my mistake, after Germandude’s comment, I thought you were also referring to the “Shanghainese” specifically rather than the city and its population as a whole. So my response to you was definitely about separating the stereotypes between the locally-raised Wu dialect-speaking “Shanghainese” and the migrant workers who are from other parts of China but now live in Shanghai.

            With that clarified, I still don’t think Shanghai has the most backwards people. All of China’s cities have a large population of migrant workers and granted they’re all rather rough around the edges collectively no matter where they are but you have cities like Shenzhen or Dongguan where the entire population are literally migrant workers and are on a per capita basis less diluted by attitudes, morals, and behaviors guided by greater economic means, international exposure, and cosmopolitanism. Shanghai’s not that bad, and as far as one stereotype goes, I think even Guangzhou gets ranked under Shanghai in terms of how likely you’re liable to be mugged or purse-snatched randomly on the streets. Theft isn’t the only measure of “backwardness” but petty crime and perceptions of how likely it is to happen does factor into a city’s attitudes, morals, and behavior, right?

            Shrug, I just think “most backwards” is pretty exaggerated.

          • Germandude

            Regarding theft being a measure of “backwardness”.

            Who do you hate more? The guy that stole your wallet with 5000 RMB in it, or the guy that betrayed you with selling you an original brand watch for 5000 RMB that later on turns out to be a 100 RMB fake?

            I find the amount of betrayal tries on foreigners significantly higher in Shanghai than in e.g. Guangzhou or Shenzhen. My theory on this is that most suppliers in the South are already in contact with foreign companies for a long time and have learned that a happy customer will come back.

            In Shanghai however, I could give you endless first-hand experienced stories where I have caught somebody trying to cheat on me and this whole “Sorry, my bad, won’t happen again” was directly followed by the next try. Not so much in Guangzhou. I am talking about business and private matters here.

            Personally, a guy stealing my wallet is an asshole, probably a poor bastard. If I had just put my wallet into an inside pocket of my jacket…

            Oh shit, this watch breaks apart after 24 hours, despite it being labeled as a real one, purchased in a shop who doesn’t grant me the warranty that they sold me just yesterday. Now I won’t write here what kind of words I’d throw at them.

            Shanghai in my eyes is like Hollywood: Nice facade that makes you feel confortable. But don’t look behind it.

          • Kai

            I think I’d hate the person who lies to my face and cons me more than someone who just snatches my wallet. Part of it would be because getting ripped off makes the victim feel like a fool in addition to just being screwed out of money.

            But my impression is that I don’t think the attempts to rip off foreigners is higher in Shanghai than Guangzhou or Shenzhen (or other places, especially any place that is targeting tourists). I think there are just more foreigners coming to Shanghai than those cities, and the people doing the ripping off may be in Shanghai but are not necessarily “Shanghainese” people.

            If you’re someone who is willing to try ripping off foreigners, and you know there are more foreigners going to Shanghai, then you’ll more likely go to Shanghai to find your prey. When you rip off a foreigner, and he finds out, then it is Shanghai (but usually Chinese in general) who get a bad reputation because of your actions. Shanghainese people hate non-locals for similar reasons, because they think non-locals make the city worse and are eyesores.

            I wonder if the reason you have more first-hand experiences and stories about someone trying to cheat you in Shanghai is because you simply spend most of your time in Shanghai and are usually shopping in Shanghai. Imagine if you lived in Beijing or Guangzhou or anywhere else, don’t you think living there and shopping there daily might result in you having a lot more first-hand experience and stories about getting ripped off in those cities?

            For example, I have more first-hand experiences and stories about evil taxi drivers trying to rip me off in Shanghai, but I wouldn’t say Shanghai is the worst city when it comes to evil taxi drivers. This is because I’ve experienced it elsewhere before and know it happens elsewhere a lot too. Although I have a lot of experiences in Shanghai specifically, I also know I have a lot more exposure in Shanghai. So its the problem of disproportionate exposure again. If I spent half my time in, for example, Beijing, and half my time in Shanghai, and I used taxis equally, for similar routes, in similar neighborhoods, etc. then maybe I’d be able to more fairly compare them but since I don’t, I’m not sure I can really judge Shanghai as worse than Beijing.

            Heh, I’m not as jaded as you are about Shanghai. I kinda came knowing the gleaming skyscrapers and nicer parts of the city aren’t representative, and I knew ripoffs were always a danger whenever it comes to buying anything where bargaining is part of the transaction.

          • Germandude

            I have been travelling through China 1 month before I finally settled down in Shanghai. I went basically to the same kind of places in Beijing, Shanghai and Guangzhou (such as fake markets, shopping streets and so on). In Beijing, somebody tried to cheat on me once, in Guangzhou, none (or I didn’t notice it), Shanghai, hm, 4 times?
            I am aware that I cannot compare the 6.5 years of Shanghai with 1 month Beijning. Even lesser so in the case of Guangzhou. Still, the impression stays.

            You are 100% right regarding the taxi drivers though. Nowhere else I’ve been, the taxi drivers were as honest and reliable than in Shanghai. Including San Francisco, several cities in GER, or Sydney and Melbourne.

          • Kai

            Yeah, I understand the impression. I think foreigners visit Shanghai and Beijing more reliably than other places so there’s definitely a lot of people in these cities trying to fleece unsuspecting foreign tourists.

            Heh, I’m not sure I’d say Shanghai taxi drivers are the most honest or reliable. Just as I can’t say they’re the worst, I can’t bring myself to say they’re the best either because there’s too much evidence and personal experience to the contrary!

          • Germandude

            Lol. Let’s at least agree that we disagree. Sometimes. haha. No, have a good evening! Xmas dinner party time. Bah… ;-)

          • Jennster

            Germandude, do you ever communicate with the local populace? nearly all taxi drivers are native local shanghainese from chongming island, hence they are nice and less likely to cheat. just so you know, the word shanghainese means someone born there, and migrants make up 50% of the population.

            And it bedazzels me that you can’t tell the difference by looks and language (yeah we are all chinese blah blah but still).
            i doubt if you even understand the chinese language but check the following video: spot the shanghainese guys (3 total)

            I don’t know if you can watch it in china even with vpn, as i can see it in singapore.

          • Germandude

            Yes I know that nearly all (I thought for sure all) taxi drivers are Shanghainese. And yes, I do think they are the best that I experienced in the world.
            I said that I cannot ALWAYS figure out if the person is a local Shanghainese or not. Unlike you, I am not putting people into boxes in order to judge them to be good or bad.

          • Archie

            I’d use you analogy for China as a whole, in so many ways. First impressions are never what they seem. Dig beneath the surface layer and reveal the rot underneath.

          • aerinmeister

            I assume that you’re speaking hypothetically, and that you don’t really buy expensive watches in China. :)

          • Germandude

            Lol, of course not. I just used that example because it’s easy to understand and everybody has had this “Watch? Bag? DVDs?” encounter already.

          • aerinmeister

            I agree that Guangzhou and Shenzhen seem to have the worst reputations for street crime. What I’ve heard people saying about Shanghai isn’t that people are backwards, but that they’re not friendly. My acquaintances here seem to be so interested in wealth, success and outward appearances, but little else–I suppose that’s kind of backward by my reckoning. But I’m not comparing them to other Chinese. I’m just saying that there’s more to life than money; a really “enlightened” society should care more about knowledge, history, spirituality, personal growth, volunteerism, environmentalism, and things of that nature.

        • Kai

          Being a resident of Shanghai, I see Shanghai as being fairly similar to New York, with some of the same stereotypes about its locals.

          On “niceness”, it’s really hard to say. I think most foreigners would be torn between the stereotype of people outside of Shanghai being crude peasants shitting and spitting on the street vs. the stereotype of Shanghainese being more cosmopolitan and well-mannered (closer to Western norms and sensibilities) but sometimes obnoxiously stuck-up and arrogant. I honestly think this boils down to whichever stereotype you have in mind at the moment. In practice, I’ve met more nice people from both camps than non-nice people.

          As for “beautiful”, I dunno, that’s pretty subjective as well. Depends what you like. Some people like the colonial history evident in the city and much of its remaining architecture. Some people like gleaming skyscrapers. Shrug.

          “Primitive” is not something I’d attribute to Shanghainese unless you were to link it to “materialism” being inherently “primitive”. If that were the case, I’d probably label China’s nouveau riche “primitive” first. I dunno, I don’t see Shanghainese people as being more materialistic than people in Hong Kong or New York or Los Angeles. I think its a stereotype given to them simply because they’re urbanites wealthier than those outside of Shanghai and by Beijingers who want to see themselves as being more sophisticated and cultural. It’s a more a relative thing to me than an accurate thing. All city people are seen as more materialistic.

          Shanghainese food is fine. Another really subjective thing. Not saying your opinion is invalid, just offering another opinion.

          • Germandude

            first to the ace of books: I agree. Suzhou is pretty and got its own flair. I just didn’t include it into my TOP 5 because I think the ones I mentioned are nicer (imho oc).


            “crude peasants shitting and spitting on the street vs. the stereotype of Shanghainese being more cosmopolitan and well-mannered (closer to Western norms and sensibilities) but sometimes obnoxiously stuck-up and arrogant”

            First I need to mention that there are of course exceptions for what I am writing, some Shanghainese are not like my description. However, after approx. 6.5 years in China, I can say the following:

            Granted, I can not always recognize if it’s a local Shanghainese or somebody from outside. However, what I can say through my experience is this: Shanghainese are the least friendly Chinese I have met. They are the most snobbish ones and consider themselves better than their countrymen. Shanghainese are the least helpful ones, like to ignore anybody asking them simple things such as “What’s the time”, “Which direction is street XY” and such.
            Shanghainese tend to find it acceptable to ask non-Shanghainese to pay higher prices than local Shanghainese, especially when they are foreigners.
            In hardly any other city of China, do I see so many people spitting on the roads. Especially Qingdao and Xiamen people behaved so different, that I asked my wife if the local governments put fines on doing so. In Shanghai, littering and spitting is the norm and so common, that I actually recognize people bringing their rubbish to the bin 2 meters away rather than people simply throwing it down.
            Beijing in my eyes doesn’t have that problem on such a scale.

            Regarding “materialism” and it being primitive: Yes, materialism is primitive. People that define themselves through objects, such as a BMW 7, an iPhone 5 or an LV bag are what exactly? In my eyes, primitive. That doesn’t mean that people shouldn’t enjoy the fun with an iPhone 5 or drive a BMW, but Shanghainese more than other Chinese I’ve met, use this to show that “they belong to the group”. Which group that actually should be, nobody could explain, but they belonged to it.

            I actually also compare Shanghai with New York or LA. My judgement on New York or LA are not much different (well, more civilised manners maybe, but also weak on culture and values, except you call materialism culture).

          • Kai

            I recognize the stereotypes of snobbishness but I don’t think Shanghainese are more likely than non-Shanghainese to ask non-locals and especially foreigners to pay a higher price than locals.

            I think it’s easier and more accurate to say the people working in certain professions (usually people selling stuff where bargaining is expected) are more liable to do that. I don’t think its easy or even meaningful to try determining which city’s people are more likely to do that. Plus, I think the stereotype in China is that Henanese are more liable to try ripping people off. Shanghainese aren’t even near the top of that list (they’re at the top of the insularity list). I’ve never noticed Shanghainese people being more likely to try ripping off foreigners than non-locals. In fact, everywhere I’ve been, I’ve noticed that locals will be more likely to treat a fellow local better. It’s just an in-group out-group thing. People will treat you better or give you a better deal if you can establish something in common, build rapport, etc. often by speaking a common tongue or being from the same area. This is not unique to Shanghai or the Shanghainese at all.

            On littering, I’m going to assume you just have disproportionate exposure. It could’ve been the areas you visited, the times you visited, or the people who happened to be in that area where you were. Travel enough of any city in China and you’re definitely going to see more than enough spitting, shitting, and littering on the streets. Certain parts of each city may be better, just as XTD is going to have a higher class of people regularly prowling it than even the best street in Zhabei district due to gentrification.

            Again, I’m not saying you don’t have the impression you do, I’m just saying my impression is wildly different and bringing up possible reasons why you might have the impressions you do. For example, Shanghai has a higher population density than Beijing, so you might simply see more of the same behavior within the same space because there are just more people in that space. Or perhaps it was the areas of Beijing you visited. I’ve been to the best and worst of both cities and they’re pretty similar in how much spitting, shitting, and littering I see.

            Overall, I’ve just seen as much if not more shitting, spitting, and littering in other Chinese cities. Frankly, its common enough throughout China that I don’t even bother trying to argue which city has it worse. Okay, I might, but I don’t think I could ever declare Shanghai the worst on these three things. Shanghai’s really not bad overall in these measures.

            On materialism being primitive, I can understand that. I guess I just don’t see Shanghainese as being much more materialistic than any other group. When I think of people who flash their wealth with 7 series BMWs, iPhones, and LV bags, I think more of the nouveau riche. Shanghainese people for the most part are just middle classers and as a group, I don’t think they’re that materialistically gaudy. I’ve never actually gotten the feeling that Shanghainese people use objects to define themselves as belonging to a group. The fact that they can’t explain what group suggests there is no real “group” they’re TRYING to be part of, except the ambiguous group of people who like nice or trendy things. Middle-class Shanghainese might have more means to afford these things, but I don’t think that immediately means “materialistic”. I don’t think “being able to” means they are inherently “more so”. Know what I mean?

            I think a person can be materialistic without being able to afford an iPhone. Hell, I think the kid who sold his kidney for an iPad is more “materialistic” than the Shanghainese who have one.

            I’ve always seen Shanghai as very similar to New York. Both are high-density financial and commercial centers with insular but more highly cosmopolitan local cultures and people who have influence on the rest of the nation.

          • Germandude

            “On littering, I’m going to assume you just have disproportionate exposure. It could’ve been the areas you visited, the times you visited, or the people who happened to be in that area where you were. ”

            People’s Square. Mo-Fri, every day. The fact that this area is so clean is not because nobody is littering, but because a minute after the waste has dropped down, a cleaner is there to pick it up.

            You are partly right with the assumption that I haven’t been to all of Beijing and probably didn’t see its “dirty corners” as much as Shanghais, but I have travelled to a lot of cities and also am regularly in TIER 3 cities where the development is still in its child shoes (does that expression exist in English?).

            What mostly bothers me in Shanghai is that I have the feeling that everybody is living on his own and doesn’t care about the people surrounding them, except own family and business related people. In other cities I don’t feel this to be as crazy as it is here.

            Anyways, as said before: Those are only my impressions and should you be Shanghainese (are you? ;-) ) I don’t judge you and put you into the same boot until you’ve proven me right. If you know what I mean.

          • Kai

            Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying Shanghai is clean, nor would I use People’s Square as an example to argue that Shanghai is clean! (An interesting thing is that a lot of Shanghainese people consider People’s Square to be filled with non-locals, as tourists or street hawkers peddling to those tourists.) All I mean by disproportionate exposure is that our impressions might be based on experiences that aren’t necessarily representative of the overall state of things. It’s like people who visit Shanghai and think it is so modern and wealthy just because they saw the Pudong skyline and XTD.

            The “child’s shoes” expression doesn’t exist in English, or at least I don’t think anyone says “child’s shoes” but they might say something like “infant stages” (“the infant stages of development”). I’ve been to tier 3 cities and worse (lower?) and I’ve definitely seen worse than Shanghai. That’s all I’m saying, that I personally can’t think of the spitting, shitting, and littering in Shanghai being worse or THE worst overall compared to other cities in China. In fact, I often think of Shanghai (and Tier 1 cities in general) as being really quite good compared to the rest of China, so much that I worry about us living in a fish bowl.

            As for people in Shanghai not caring about those around them, I can definitely see that in Shanghai, but the thing is, I see that in Beijing and Guangzhou as well as all other high-density cities, in China and outside of China (like New York, and especially New York!). It doesn’t seem odd to me, maybe because I’ve lived in big cities and the people are usually more indifferent and less friendly than in smaller, less-dense communities. I guess I’m used to it, and I expect it from any city. Even with the Japanese, who are stereotypically super friendly, people in Tokyo are overall noticeably less friendly and more indifferent to those around them than Japanese in smaller and less dense areas. I think the urban environment just trains people to become colder (at least in certain aspects).

            No, I’m not Shanghainese. I’ve just lived here a bit longer than you have and feel I’ve seen enough of Shanghai and other Chinese cities to compare my impressions to yours. I’m not judging you either, we’re just comparing notes and discussing why we think what we think! :)

          • Germandude

            I disrespect a lot of the attitudes foreigners show here in China. Littering however is the least one I noticed foreigners doing.
            Luckily I never saw someone publicly shitting on the street here.

            My list of Chinese cities that I like (far from completed of course) however stands. Shanghai is good for work, that’s it.

          • Kai

            I agree, I don’t really see foreigners littering much and I’ve NEVER seen a foreigner openly shit on the street here (thank god!). To clarify though, the Shanghainese people are referring to other non-local Chinese tourists or migrants, not foreigners. They stereotype the litterers, spitters, and shitters as being migrant “nongmins” and “waidiren”, not local Shanghainese people.

            Of course, the truth is that there are really low class Shanghainese locals who do these things too, but I’d agree with them in that most of the time, its migrants from out of town who don’t know better. I actually think the local Shanghainese probably hate the uncouth behaviors that Chinese people are unfortunately known for in the eyes of foreigners more than the foreigners themselves. They feel it reflects upon them when they’re not the ones who do it. That’s partly why they have so much contempt and snobbery towards non-local Chinese (and why the non-local Chinese resent them).

            I’ve seen a lot of lovely Chinese cities but I guess I’d still put Shanghai at the top of my list. I can’t force myself to live in a place I can’t tolerate and genuinely like more than dislike. The pros of Shanghai still outweigh the cons in my book. Other Chinese cities would be a step down for me, or they’re only better than Shanghai in things that don’t really affect me on a daily basis. Shrug. To each their own, right? Cheers.

          • ScottLoar

            Agreed. More than 10 years in Shanghai and I – and many more like me, both foreigners and mainland Chinese – choose Shanghai first, and if denied then would prefer not to live in China.

            A female friend from Beijing who has lived in Shanghai for more than 15 years dare not speak well of Shanghai to the relatives when she returns for the new year; once they came close to strangling her.

            As for Beijing, one Shanghainese called it “the biggest farmer city”. Still, Shanghainese attitudes towards anyone outside the city can be well-nigh insufferable.

          • As far as the lowest quality people owning the highest quality of cars and material comforts and an even higher lack of personal or business ethics, Wenzhou wins by a mile. Shanghainese can only strive to be as shitty as Wenzhou.

          • ScottLoar

            Walking the city, its alleys, byways, old streets, is not good? You would compare walking in Shanghai to – what? A few enclaves in Beijing crisscrossed with thoroughfares and mad drivers?

            Shanghai still retains a lot of old architecture even if often necessarily converted to business venues, usually restaurants and such. You compare this with – well, where? That oasis Houhai?

            Eating, bar-hopping, wining in Shanghai is second to – where in China?

        • the ace of books

          I’ll stay out of the catfight, but I wanna put in a good word for Suzhou, because of the gardens, and Pingjiang street.

          Although I liked Xi’an a considerable lot more the second time I went there than the first. I think it has to do with the fact that I went myownself, instead of with a tour.

          Wanna go back to Qingdao sometime. Great seafood and beerfood. Also, what little I saw of the city had nice architecture.

        • 3esepp0

          Shit and materialistic? Your name is germandude, you are using an Australian football symbol for your avatar and you are clearly confused OP fag.
          Are you australian or German?

          • Germandude

            German, if I was born 5 km more to the west, I would’ve been Dutch. I use that picture because the boy looks very similar to how I looked like when I was 5. Why the interest? Wanna date me? Not interested, nice try.

        • aerinmeister

          I moved to Shanghai fairly recently, but can say that when I visited China for the first time, my traveling companions and I fell in love with Yunnan Province. We thought the people there were so friendly and laid back, the land so breathtaking. Even in Beijing we were made to feel welcome. Then we spent a few days in Shanghai and felt like we had suddenly been transported to the rude streets of New York. Never mind, that’s not a good comparison–I’ve met some really cool people walking around NYC.

          Since relocating here for work, I’ve found that there are actually some nice folks here, but the community as a whole does seem to be as soulless and materialistic as you say. My closest Chinese friends happen to be from other provinces; go figure.

        • Wick

          I found Qingdao to be far too touristy last time I went. It really changed a lot since I last went a few years ago. It went from the top straight down to the bottom of my list of places to go.

      • radbab

        people look down on ignorant people without manners and without morals who act irresponsibly. Strength and riches will make people fear you, but they’ll still look down on you – and that’s what many Chinese just don’t understand.

        People don’t respect China because of an aircraft carrier or all the money. They fear what it might do with that. Acting mature and responsibly, on a personal and government level is what gets you respect.

        • lostalien

          i look down on all

      • s4pp9`

        Look at the recent UN votes. The world looks down at USA because of their constant war and lies. Now is the chance for the people of China to all step up to the stage at once. The World looks up at China now: Do not be cunts like USA!

        • lostalien

          s4pp9 is delusional at best. look up to China? ok that’s fine, look down at usa, ok that’s fine however, if you check outside of the great firewall of china you can find that it isn’t the case.

          i hate the usa far more than you do. Why? I grew up there.

          but each and every country, including China, is full of leaders who do nothing for anyone.

          why don’t get it through that thick baozi skull of yours that leaders are not meant to improve our lives. they are there to lie to us about things so we feel better .

          and then go back back to your messages on weixin because its about all your life is worth.

      • lostalien

        don’t think i look down on you because of being a chinese or a poor person. youre human right?

        that’s enough for me to look down on you.

      • Jennster

        1. That’s exactly what I said.
        2. No mainland chinese region is higher ranked than shanghai in hdi and standard of living. in fact competitiveness index went down 2-3 spots in asia consecutively in the last 3 years due to influx of migrants, and is now behind singapore and taiwan.
        3. Don’t tell me you don’t know the fact that it is videos and tours of shanghai (or less frequently beijing) that laowais start to think “wow china is so cool”.

    • el negro pedro

      are you female? if so, I feel sorry for whomever is stupid enough to get duped into being your boyfriend. No one likes Shanghai or Shanghainese Period.

      What are you so proud of anyway? You can speak English? You may be a bit more well behaved than the average country bumpkin but in the world, you’re still just some cheesy local girl. Any quality person, Chinese or Westerner would never go for.

      Money can’t buy education or class. You seem really ignorant and low class.

      • mr.wiener

        She learnt her class in Australia. We got class coming out of our arse.

      • lostalien

        can’t buy class. perfectly stated.

        shanghai is nothing more than another cement jungle filled with tiny little people trying to run around and make their lives better. but each and every person who grew up in china forgot their roots.

      • Jennster

        I am in my own country. Why would i prefer a westener? lol you are the one with the asian guy as his avatar pretending to be asian but is a yank complaining about shanghainese guys. i am pretty sure you are living there right now.

        what’s with yanks calling people in zhabei “shanghainese animals” when that district is 95% migrants? lmao

        p.s. butthurt foreigners are funny. you seem to act extremely hurt when locals aren’t interested in your kind. ask yourself why.

        • mr.wiener

          thank you for only saying “lol” and “lmao” once this article.

    • linette lee

      The migrants workers are the foundation and support of the whole china economy. They are the people building your cities. They definitely deserved to be treated much better. Locust is not an appropriate word to use on them.

      China needs to take better care of the migrants workers and the rural chinese. They shouldn’t wait anymore and should do it now.

    • s3pp0

      Calm down and go to your local temple, look at the photos from your parents youth, or of you grandparents. You (or your family members) may have been the same once.

      Choose a different, less negative, word.

    • 344

      Separate yourselves at your own demise. 1 China, 1 Chinese person is the way to go. Do not repeat European history

  • sam

    Additional information: Yesterday,china begin medical reform. Which include reducing cost of medicine and stop hospital profiting form selling medicines and made it easer for people consult doctors and specialist. However, currently only three hospitality’s in Beijing are experiencing this system .

    • Jennster

      That has already been done in shanghai. Now they are in the process of reducing huge fees for major accidents as well as increasing private GPs

      • blackhawk

        oh really? then can u explain why the Dongfang hospital in Shanghai insisted to give me 3 different brand of flu medicine and charge me RMB700?

        • donscarletti

          Because they thought they’d get away with it, and probably did. Same answer you’ve going to get for most questions with the word “why” in it relating to China.

        • Jennster

          you got shanghai hukou or a waiguo ren?
          bet u are because you don’t know about hua shan hospital.

  • Your Sexy Cousin Rex

    Wow dies for lying, how come the politicians are still alive?

  • A Gawd Dang Mongolian

    So those folk I saw were migrants. I thought they were homeless.

    And my guide told me they were just locals sleeping outside because it was too hot inside…

    • sam

      Some time that true. In the summer tempter can reach 40 degrees.

  • thmswhnr

    Does anyone else think it’s hilarious that the paramedics performed an EKG on a person described as “unconscious and unresponsive, without vital signs, arms and legs cold and slightly stiff” ?

  • MrT

    The whole emergency response system needs a complete overall. Deal with the sick and injured first, then talk about the money after they been dealt with.

    • linette lee

      You are in trouble. You are talking shit about the chinese gov’t. I thought you think china is the best. Why need to change.

      • MrT

        Chinese government got my 100% backing to stay in power, doesn’t mean they aint got things to fix.

        Changing a government out every few years and voted in by clueless media brainwashed idiots is not the answer.

        If i was you I would be more worried about the invasion of piggy eyed women taking over HK then the right to vote who ever in.

        (that’s monthly in Japan)

    • radbab

      totally useless anyway. Here in Shanghai every ambulance is stuck in traffic and taxis cut into the lane in front of it. Probably better to call a taxi to take you to the hospital – and bring cash to bribe everyone for speedy service. I can see the thinking behind it. In a city with 21 mio people the chance that it’s a relative of yours in the ambulance is rather slim. So why should you care?

      My gf was like “wow they they would never do this in China (mainland)!” when she saw how everyone made space for the ambulance in Hong Kong.

      • MrT

        Well that’s another change needed, in the UK if you get in the way of emergency services you will be sent to hell.
        They do have the law here but its not enforced, yet.
        HK is the British system.

        • radbab

          I’m pretty sure it’s the same case here, except it’s not enforced.

          China actually has a lot of laws similar to the western ones, except nobody cares to enforce them.

          And the other people who block the street just don’t give a damn. They’re probably migrant workers in their BMWs and Audis. I’m sure real Shanghainese would give way to an ambulance blaring their horn…

    • Gay Azn Boi

      Sorry, but you sound very naive. How is the hospital going to pay for the medical treatment if the patients don’t have any money??

      There are no free lunches in this world.

      • MrT

        Funny because in the UK you get the bill for the Ambulance after the treatment, its up to the authorities to chase that bill. people first money last.

        That don’t ask you when your on the floor can you pay.

        That way peoples lives are saved and if they got insurance they claim, if they cant afford it they get benefit to pay.otherwise they go on a drip payment.

        Hence i said a overall, needs change to implement this system.
        I suppose Canada sucks like America when it come to health care.

        • Gay Azn Boi

          Definitely. There is universal healthcare in Canada, but since it’s not privately run, the service SUCKS. Waiting 4-5 hours in the emergency room if your illness is non-life threatening (albeit serious) is not uncommon. That wouldn’t happen in a privately-run hospital.

          • MrT

            Its all the immigrants overloaded the system, they should deport them all back to Honk Bong. every thing will run smooth again then.

          • Gay Azn Boi


          • MrT

            Double bonus when they deport you.
            Subject: [chinasmack] Re: Migrant Worker Dies After Lying on Street for Over 20 Days

          • Gay Azn Boi

            I’m a Canadian citizen you asshole.

          • MrT

            and your partial to assholes. ;-)

          • Gay Azn Boi

            Hmm you could be right. I find guys who are cocky and dominant very sexy, just like many girls do lol.

          • mr.wiener

            Girlfriend you just been trolled. He played you like a stradivarius.

        • Gay Azn Boi

          I want to make another point. A fundamental mistake we make is that we place a high value on human life, even though life is cheap. It doesn’t take much to conceive a child. I read a while ago that a 13 year old British boy fathered a little girl. So even kids are having kids.

          • MrT

            you shouldnt worry,you cant get pregnant ;-)

          • Gay Azn Boi

            Even if I could, I wouldn’t want kids. They’re nothing but a burden.

          • mr.wiener

            I like kids, provided they are other peoples, just hand ’em back when they mess themselves.

          • Gerhana

            human life are devoid of value. I suppose no one would mind me sinking a blade or two in your guts. Given that I do not break the blades, they are more expensive after all.

            Ah! exception Parang! they are quite cheap! probably equal to the price of a human life since they are used quite a lot. Especially in ethnic war.

            Yes, we are mistaken in placing high value on human life. Such nonsense.

          • mr.wiener

            You’re getting kinda dark……..Cool!

          • Gerhana

            oh its no big deal

          • Gay Azn Boi


        • Hey dumbass, you been to the hospital in America? You think people pay Cash On Delivery for the ambulance? You think they don’t save lives first and worry about the money later? Don’t be getting uppity on things you don’t know jackshit about.

  • Lovely

    welcome to capitalism… or is it social darwanism?

    • s3pp0

      Welcome to seppos lying online.

      China knows Capitalism now, Germany had this in th 30s’ neeegro!! You are A ameritard. History for you comes from TV

  • peye

    Where are all the Chinese property developers who earned billions by overpricing the properties when selling them. Why is there no fund established by Chinas well off, to help pay the medical fees for the children and the people in need. Ok much need to be done by the various governments to clean up their acts; but sections of the private sector could, in my opinion, also step up to the plate in order to correct urgent social ills. Perhaps the man who passed away did not find anything on this planet he wanted to or could be part off. Perhaps he gave all he was able to give. We do not know. May he rest in peace.

    • Alphy

      There are “some” NGO that does volunteering services, but overall they are very small or lost the public’s trust.

      I do go to a mainly foreigner one in Shanghai. It’s call Bean. Look it up if you are around the area.

    • lostalien

      private sectors correcting ills. ok good idea and possible. but it doesn’t seem likely.

    • MrT

      aint that what Obamamamamama trying to do in the US? extract money from the rich to pay for the poor.
      Called TAX i think, its a method all governments use, the rates vary…

  • Alphy

    So after reading the article I ask a local Shanghainese if there are any soup kitchen around. Her replied was what is that? After a brief explanation on the free public service, she laugh and said it would be filled with Ayi everyday instead if it existed.

    • Observer

      When I lived in China, a fellow expat told me that his friend joined a volunteer group somewhere in south of China (possibly Guangdong) to tidy the community and help feed homeless people.
      The group were warned by the local officials that they must disband because they weren’t a register organization.

      I’m sure (given the groups intentions of wanting to help people) that they must have tried to register so they could continue aiding the less fortunate. Last I heard they failed to get permission. I guess the local officials didn’t see the benefits on their end.

      • grovesman

        The government doesn’t like foreigners to provide social services because they lose face.

        • Observer

          All I can say is, that’s very disturbing.

    • S4ppoh

      So? I am loosely affiliated with some mobile food and shelter providers. They report about a 10-15% backpacker attendance. :-)

      But to address this in a different way: how many western people provide a home and support for their elderly parents? And how may Chinese people provide support for their family elders?

      Is the soup kitchen not heard of because it is rarely necessary?

      • hess

        ” how many western people provide a home and support for their elderly parents? ” In many western countries the elderly prefer to be treated as adults instead of children, they prefer to be independent and live on their own for as long as they can. and when they cant do that anymore they prefer to have a helper to take care of the things they cant do them selves.

        • MrT

          and don’t forget give their house away to pay for the retirement home to die in

          • hess

            Cant speak for the rest of the western world, but its free in Sweden and they dont have to move to a retirement home since they have people help them out in their own houses/apartments

          • MrT

            Thats why so many Chinese moving to Sweden!

      • K

        China is packed with the homeless and poor – yes, it’s necessary

      • Alphy

        S4ppoh, did you not read the story or traveled in China? Wow… there are people in need of basic necessity everywhere. I myself volunteered many times, and have seen people that are going hungry even in big cities like Shanghai and Beijing. If you go in rural area of China, you will see kids going hungry, and people living in huts. It’s not a lot of people, but yes there are many less fortunate than you.

    • K

      If they tried to feed the homeless, you can bet some middle and upper class individuals will get in line as well – they love free stuff.

      One volunteer group near my home handed out free lunches every day during the summer to feed low income kids. Guess which Chinese private summer school found out about it and started bringing 20 kids a day to the program?

      People in China will take advantage of anything; nothing will change unless their mindset does

    • exink

      now that’s sad

  • Super Bunny

    hmm, some chinese hospitals and doctors are very good too.at least in my hometown…

    my sister after argued with mother-in-law she could not feel baby inside moving any more,she went to 1st hospital,it’s said fine.she did not feel well,so went to another biggest one,that doctor after got her CDU, then not let her leave any more,she even did not take much money along,doctor told her forget money and everything,then arranged bed and operation for her.baby was almost running out of air…

    so she thanks doctors from heart.
    if we do not believe hospital and doctor then when we are sick, where we should go?

    • s3pp-

      Reading that brick of text was painful. Can you write it again in english (for the seppos).

      Or are you the seppo? Do you have a sister? Do you live in the country? Are you lying? Why do you have a sister?

      • Germandude

        Chinese like to call their cousins or friends sister/brother. Glad to teach you one of the first things you learn when you talk with Chinese. May I conclude you are not in China, have never been here, haven’t had any contact to Chinese, or very limited one and don’t have a clue what you are talking about?

        • Hoji

          Nicely said Germandude, what a dick that guy is.

    • lostalien

      i am glad to hear a good story. I hope she and the baby are ok now :)

  • Gay Azn Boi

    I’m sorry, the world doesn’t owe you a living. As harsh as it sounds, it’s the truth.

    • Observer

      Sorry, but are you referring to the migrant workers? These people who made the clothes you are wearing, the house you live in, the car/bus you ride and the food you eat? You owe a large part of your comfortable living to them.

      • Gay Azn Boi

        Well it’s not like I get those things for FREE. I still have to pay for them -_-

        • ertsepp0

          sry, the observer is right in this instance

        • exink

          I think Observer is talking about how the factory workers build these things for the buyer (us) and only get pennies and disrespect in return.

        • exink

          it’s a lose-lose situation. if they were paid fair, normal salary, then the price of products would go up a huge amount and China’s manufacturing industry would collapse. Then none of us would have anything.. it’s a sad thing.

          • They make a lot of money, considering their relatively low level of education and skills. The good factory jobs pay as high as 3,500 RMB per month these days. Most of the products that make it to international markets were made in these relatively upscale factories, so I would say they’re fairly compensated. The working conditions are pretty bad though, and many of them pay for it by devoting all their time to work and eventually becoming shengnv.

  • Observer

    As mentioned previously, these people are the backbone (and a whole lot more) of the Chinese economy. They work in manufacturing industries, making trillions and receiving pennies. They build the railways and tower blocks, (try) to clean the streets and do all the work that urban residents refuse to do)

    They are the unappreciated group in China, the tens/hundreds of millions of people making money for everyone else. (I thought the whole idea of Communism was that everyone’s equal; share the wealth!)

    it’s a shame that while China’s economy has developed exponentially over the past 50 years, many social issues didn’t develop with it.

    • hess

      外地人 dont clean the streets where i live

      • s5ppw

        If I knew your street I would treat you with the same respect that I give to any seppo: right, knee/left, shove, kick

        • Germandude

          Yes online hero. Now go back to World of Warcraft!

        • hess

          时光街 :) no idea what a seppo is though, and no idea why you act tough because locals cleans the streets here

          • mr.wiener

            Ignore the internet tough guy, he’d shite himself if he ever met you for real.

        • hess

          “SeppoDerogertory word used by the English and Australians for all American nationals. Derived from Rhyming slang (Septic Tank = Yank)”

          I’m Swedish though

        • I live on Tiyuchang Road in Hangzhou. Feel free to come for a stroll.

      • Jennster

        then they are being ‘bao fa hu’ and entrepreneurs. most of the richest people in china are all waidirens. local just collect rent and play mahjong.

    • s6pp0


      As mentioned previously, these people are the backbone (and a whole lot more) of the USA economy.
      They work in manufacturing industries, making trillions and receiving pennies. They build the railways and tower blocks,
      (try) to clean the streets and do all the work that urban residents refuse to do)

      They are the unappreciated group in the USA, the tens/hundreds of millions of people making money for everyone else.
      (I thought the whole idea of Capitalism was that everyone had an equal chance of sharing the wealth!)

      it’s a shame that while USA’s economy has slowed exponentially over the past 50 years, many social issues didn’t develop with it.

  • Just wonder why a lot of the comments are blaming the hospital. Also in the western countries doctors wont work for free, but at least the insurance-system is better. But thats not the hospitals fault, but the fault of the government. They are the ones that could build up a statutory health insurance.

    • Zappa Frank

      insurance system is better? as long as you can afford an inusrance (and a poor migrant worker probably can’t).. and sometime even with an insurance is not that good.

      • I am just talking from the european view. At least here, if you have a work, you must pay a bit (not that much) each month.
        If you dont have a job, the government pays for you.

        Isnt it like that in the US too now when they changed the health-system?

        • 3eppo

          US has been oozing into china for years.

        • hess

          In northern europe we pay it through taxes and its not “a bit” i think the lowest income tax in sweden is 29%

  • vincent

    I don’t get why the comments are veering off into discussing Shanghai but what I gather from this article is that the migrant worker was probably unwilling to accept help due to perhaps his financial situation and therefore he was worried that treatment would cost too much money? If that is the case then that is a huge problem because there is no safety net for these poor fellows who are without a doubt the reason why China is able to build big and fancy cities, it’s sad that they suffer like this.

    • Gay Azn Boi

      You bored foreigners with full stomachs have nothing better to do than point fingers at China. Stop interfering in China’s internal affairs.

      • MrT

        shouldn’t you be gathering twigs for the fire?

        • Gay Azn Boi

          Over here we call them faggots. That’s the politically correct term.

      • mr.wiener

        Leave it all up to the bored Chinese with full stomachs? If you think so. None of us are interfering [save the odd handout to some limbless thing twitching on the sidewalk to placate our liberal guilt] . Just talking on line.

        …..What ? do you think the Chinese govt are tapping in on this feed and using our suggestions? Damn, I just experienced a totally unwarranted feeling of self-importance.

      • vincent

        Don’t you live in Canada?

        • Gay Azn Boi

          Lol yes. I was just paraphrasing an undiplomatic remark made by Xi Jinping while in Mexico a while ago.

          Where abouts are you Vincent?

          • vincent

            I live in China but I couldn’t stand the hustle and bustle of the big cities so I settled in Zhuhai, nice place with easy access to Macau :D

          • Gay Azn Boi

            Oh cool. What do you do there? And where were you originally from?

            Lol I’ve never even heard of Zhuhai…had to google map it and holy shit it’s like literally right next door to Macau. You enjoying your life as a high roller? :p

          • vincent

            I have a trading company in HK that deals mainly in computer hardware which I started last year and it’s going along fine but I’ll be heading to Dubai next year to promote my company and find more clients, I’ve also dabbled in procuring promotional items for companies in the middle east, not sure how I branched into doing that :D
            As to my lineage well I’m Eurasian so I’ll leave it at that :P I was brought up in Dubai and spent most of my life there, studied in Malaysia for 5 years which was quite a lot of fun and now I’ve been in China for 4 years with my family.
            Yeah Macau is that close, I can take a bus to the border which takes about 5 minutes and then walk over, it’s nice going there on the weekends for a bit of shopping and such. Life’s fairly alright been through tough times as well so I don’t really ‘live large’ as I plan long term but at present life is good and I have nothing to complain about :)

          • Gay Azn Boi

            Oh cool I didn’t know you were Eurasian. I just assumed you were White from your pic haha. I know a couple really hot Eurasians :p

  • jason

    humanity is dead, there only exists greed

    • lostalien

      this is the best comment on this board today! hear hear! let fly the dogs of contempt!

  • lostalien

    its not a wonder that hospitals may refuse someone without money. why?
    simply put, people don’t give a fucking shit about anyone else but their own.

    i don’t believe in the 12.21 end o the world nonsense but i hope its true because i am tired of watching the world revolve around me and nobody does anything. sick place, sick people with nothing to do put talk about it online.

    • MrT

      let it all out.

  • Dick

    I remember once talking with a teacher from Shanghai, on a flight to Beijing. She had told me that she was an English teacher at a high school. Having some child development background, I was curious for her take on the Chinese education system. “It’s okay,” she informed me. “The most difficult part is teaching the migrant students. They’re too stupid.”

  • fairytale

    i wish in china that there were kind people, who got medical degrees and helped other people for free if they can’t. i disrepect chinese doctores for a low morality. pls grow up.