Xiao Yue Yue Becomes Latest Chinese Internet Celebrity

Xiao Yue Yue drawing.

From Baidu Baike:

小月月 [Xiao Yue Yue] is the main character of a post by Tianya community netizen 蓉荣 [Rong Rong]. [The post] gives an account of Xiao Yue Yue and her “boyfriend” 小W [Xiao W] visiting Shanghai, with Rong Rong being the host entertaining them/showing them around. However, in the span of two days and one night, they encountered incomparably complicated and miserable experiences, because it turns out that Xiao Yue Yue is a stupefying woman [“极品女” is a little difficult to translate, it is a woman who is very stupefying, unbelievable, shocking, outrageous, annoying, even obnoxious, a woman who is atypical in a very noticeable way] of legendary proportions. [In fact,] she is considered to be the most stupefying woman ever known to this day, with netizens quickly prostrating before her in awe.

Netizens quickly prostrate before Xiao Yue Yue in awe, even forming a “Worship Yue God Religion” organization.

Xiao Yue Yue becomes famous.

[Image shows “小月月” (Xiao Yue Yue) suddenly becoming very popular on the internet]

From QQ:

Stupefying girl “Xiao Yue Yue” becomes famous online, netizens wonder if it is a hoax/publicity stunt

Recently, Tianya netizen “Rong Rong” (microblog) posted on that website describing the events of her high school schoolmate “Xiao Yue Yue” visiting the Shanghai World Expo during the National Day holiday, allowing “Xiao Yue Yue” to suddenly becoming an internet celebrity. In the post “Thanks to such a stupefying friend for giving me such a tragedy of a National Day holiday, detailed gossip for posterity”, “Rong Rong” uses tens of thousands of words to describe how she was “astounded/stupefied” by Xiao Yue Yue.

This post was posted October 5th at 11:45 in the morning, and at the time of this writing, that post’s views have already exceeded 6,800,000 views, with 35,957 comments. [At the time of this translation, that post has over 17 million views and over 57 thousand comments over 564 pages.]

“Xiao Yue Yue” over the past two days has been a hot topic on various major forums, it causing even larger waves on Tianya itself.

Over the evolution of this matter, even though “Rong Rong” repeatedly claims that the incidents are real and the people are real, there are still many netizens who feel it is a fake/hoax, with a publicity team behind the scenes.

From Mop:

Stupefying Girl “Xiao Yue Yue” Visits The World Expo Comic Edition

“Stupefying Girl Xiao Yue Yue Visits The World Expo Incident Complete Version”. I saw a niu person post a comic version, so I’m reposting it here. Netizen “把忧伤藏进”: I managed to avoid/duck the Sister Feng phenomenon, but I simply can’t resist the onslaught of the Yue Religion.

Xiao Yue Yue visits the Shanghai World Expo comic.

Xiao Yue Yue visits the Shanghai World Expo comic.

Xiao Yue Yue: “Darling! Why is your [pubic?] hair straight?! Why?!”

Xiao W: “Fuck! I was born this way!”

Xiao Yue Yue: “Then why is mine curly?”

Xiao W: “I…I fucking permed it straight!”

Xiao Yue Yue visits the Shanghai World Expo comic.

Xiao Yue Yue visits the Shanghai World Expo comic.

Xiao Yue Yue visits the Shanghai World Expo comic.

Xiao Yue Yue visits the Shanghai World Expo comic.

Xiao Yue Yue: “Tell me, if I cut a hole on the bottom of this, would it be even more sexy?! If you saw it, would you get excited?!”

A human flesh search found…

From Xinmin:

Tianya’s “Xiao Yue Yue” becomes famous, photos exposed

Xiao Yue Yue?

Xiao Yue Yue is very very very popular right now on the Chinese internet.

UPDATE: EastSouthWestNorth has provided more translations about this story. Unfortunately, it is blocked in China right now so I have copied some parts below:

From Wenxue City:

On October 5, the netizen Rong Rong began a series of live updates to a post entitled “I thank this obnoxious friend for bringing me such a dismal National Day.”

According to Rong Rong who is working in Shanghai now, she was a high school classmate of Little Moon Moon. “We share memories of our youth.” Xiao Yueyue is a kindergarten teacher 150 cm tall and 80 kilograms in weight in Wuhu city, Anhui province.

During the National Day period, Little Moon Moon came to Shanghai with her new boyfriend Little W. Little Moon Moon’s mother asked Rong Rong to look after them.

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“I was somewhat excited. After all, I am always excited to see people from back home. I am working by myself in Shanghai, and I look forward to meeting some home folks,” Rong Rong said.

But Rong Rong never anticipated that she and Little W (the boyfriend of Little Moon Moon) would run into a series of shocking disasters such as Little Moon Moon chanting poetry, attempting suicide, etc during the next two days and one night.

The story began officially on October 3. According to Rong Rong, Little Moon Moon’s train arrived at 10:30am in Shanghai. “I waited until 11:10am without seeing them. She did not answer her phone and she did not reply to text messages. I thought that something bad must have happened to her. I was worried.” At 11:15am, Little Moon Moon called Rong Rong and told her lazily that they had already gone to the hotel and were resting.

Rong Rong then began to describe the various actions of Little Moon Moon. At the time that this news report was finished, that live broadcast post had reached 356 pages (including comments). Rong Rong’s last entry was about Little Moon Moon drinking water.” That entry was made at 9:27pm on October 7. “I went out to deal with some things.” “I don’t know if this post will reach an ending on this day.”

The humorous and suspenseful story quickly drew interest, leading to Internet hit phrases such as “Floating clouds, everything is just floating clouds.” Little Moon Moon has become an Internet phenomenon which continues to brew.

At this time, netizens have set up pages for Little Moon Moon at the Baidu Encyclopedia and the Baidu Post Bar. There is even a “Little Moon Moon” study group. At the same time, Little Moon Moon has been elevated to be the most far-out woman ever, inspiring a new virtual group known as the “Moon Worship Religion.”

Netizens also made a complete catalog of all the things that Little Moon Moon used (a grey sweater, the red high-heeled shoes, Rejoice shampoo, the banana, the congee with thousand-year-egg and thin pork meat), the persons that she came into contact with (the illegal taxi driver who took them to the Bund, the security guard at the hotel, the hotel front desk female receptionist) and the places that she visited (the Bund, the Temple of the City God, the Nanjing Road Pedestrian Walk, the Meters Bonwe shop.

Our reporter went to the page for the Little Moon Moon Study Group. The page is divided into “Analysis of the persons,” “Progress report on the human flesh search,” “Vulgar sociology,” “the Little Moon Moon affair as an experiment in communication” and other sections. There were also two chat groups, of which the first is already fully subscribed while the second one has 425 members.

Some netizens continue to conduct “human flesh search” on the persons involved in the affair. But it is no longer important whether Little Moon Moon is real or fake. For example, in the Little Moon Moon Study Group Chat Group 2, netizens are just interested in forwarding, describing and expanding on all the awful things that Little Moon Moon did.

Here are some excerpts from the live broadcast post [The post was updated over time by Rong Rong]:

Little W thought it was getting too embarrassing. So he said half jokingly, half seriously: “If you continue like this, then I am leaving …” I thought, “Good, that’s the way. It is a crime to let her scream and roll on the ground like that …” But I never imagined … Little Moon Moon began to howl! Yes, she began to howl! Yes, she was howling even as she wiped her tears from the wailing!

She said, “AI YA YA! My foot hurts and you don’t care! AI YA YA! You don’t love me! AI YA YA! You are a perfidious man. AI YA YA! You are the unfaithful husband Chen Shimei. AI YA YA! You made a promise to me but you can’t keep it.”

At that moment, I thought the air stopped. There were only crows over my head. GUA GUA GUA.

Little W could not stand it anymore. He held a grim expression, stood up and said, “Where did you put my bag? Give it back to me so that I can go home.” At that moment, Little Moon Moon suddenly smiled! Yes, she smiled! She changed her expression quicker than in Sichuan “Face Chance” theater! Really, it was so quick that I can’t even remember that she was howling just before.

Later I understood why Little W put up with her. Their parents knew each other. Since the parents of Little Moon Moon had World Expo tickets, they all wanted their children to go to the World Expo and get to know each other.

Little Moon Moon sat down in a flash. Then she tossed her LV bag to my side. She began to do her hair. As she did it, she said to be in a haughty tone: “As for me, my advantage is that I am too pretty. You just saw it. The eyes of the men in Shanghai followed me. They want to flirt with me. HMMM! I despise Shanghai people.” Little Moon Moon was talking about the dirty old man who was following her.

Little Moon Moon then whispered: “Actually I like Shandong people. Also Henan people. It is so nice to hug onto some muscle …” Then she played with the table cloth: “It is a pity that I already have Little W. I have to be faithful, even though I am so pretty and so many people court me. But I am faithful. I am the legendary Liang Shango. If Little W doesn’t want me, I will go and be buried with flowers.”

Little Moon Moon had been very spirited. But after seeing Little W, she immediately turned into the complete opposite. She — please, everybody, don’t be shocked — she actually began to recite poetry! Yes! She was reciting poetry! She pretended to have fainted, but she was whispering poetry lines. I vaguely heard: “The flowers wilt, the flower petals cover the sky in white. The broken red silk bunting, who is there to pity me?”

Slowly, she leaned over and put her head on Little W’s shoulder. Little W had already moved away and was occupying just one half of the chair. But over the course of saying those two lines of poetry, she managed to slowly creep her way over to his shoulder. When she finished reciting the lines, her eyes were even glimmering with tears.

She whispered to Little W: “Who will pity me? Who will pity me? If I should die, will you pity me?”

Little W tried to inch away slowly. From his small plastic bag, he took out a cigarette and fumbled to light it.

So we finally managed to finish the meal. Little Moon Moon said that we have to hurry over to the Temple of the City God. She said that she wanted to buy a Little Dog Dog. I was nonplussed. Little Dog Dog? There is no Little Dog Dog at the Temple of the City God. Then she said, “No, it is a Little Bear Bear.” I was even more befuddled. Little Bear Bear? Dead or alive? She continued to whine, “No, not Little Bear Bear. It is Little Lovely.” Oh dear mother, what is Little Lovely?

I used my imagination to link Little Dog Dog, Little Bear Bear and Little Lovely together. What is it? She laughed at my ignorance. She was shaking her body while she yelled at me: “Girl, you are so stupid! It is Haibao (note: the Shanghai World Expo mascot)!”

It finally dawned on me! I was really ignorant! Haibao was the fusion of Little Dog Dog, Little Bear Bear and Little Lovely!

So I, Little Moon Moon and Little W marched towards the Temple of the City God with a large bundle of panties and bras in hand.

From Daqi:

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Investigating the details of the Little Moon Moon case.

I was re-reading the story this morning and I came across this sentence: “Sadly, Little W and I got on the Number 2 Line, transferred to the Number 1 Line and rode all the way to the terminal station.”

I suddenly remembered: According to the announcement from the city government, the Nanjing East Road station on the Number 2 Line is closed every day from 15:15 hours between September 29 and October 3!

According to the post, the event took place after 9pm on October 3. How did they manage to take the Number 2 Line? The next stop west of Nanjing East Road is People’s Plaza, which was the transfer point to the Number 1 Line. They wouldn’t need to make any transfer there. The next stop east of Nanjing East Road is the Lujiazui station. If they walked to the Lujiazui station, they would need to swim across the Huangpo River first …

So I sent a SMS to Rong Rong at Tianya to ask for an explanation. No reply. I re-read the more than 100 pages of comments on that Tianya post. Someone had asked a similar question to no avail.

As someone who lives only a five minute walk away from the Nanjing East Road station on the Number 2 Line, I went down to the Meters Bonwe shop tonight.

I asked the store guide whether she saw this woman on the night of October 3. The store guide said: “Are you talking about the one who tossed the underwear around? Many people have asked me already. No such thing took place …” I was not completely assured, so I asked the security guard. He said: “I know what you are asking about. It is unlikely to have occurred. During lunch today, we discussed this matter among ourselves. But it was very crowded that day. It is possible that we didn’t spot it.”

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So I reserve my opinions with respect to Meters Bonwe.

But I am disappointed. Apart from this store guide and this security guard, any other witness would be telling each other if this extraordinary scene actually took place.

I also walked down to the Babela restaurant on the sixth floor of the Hongyi Plaza.

The service worker was very excited: “AI YA! That business! We received many calls today about it! But what happened! We searched on the Internet, but we couldn’t find it!”

I remembered this sentence: “The young Babela guy looked at me worriedly from behind with a walkie-talkie in his hand. Mother’s cunt, why can’t I pay my bill?”

So I asked: “Is there a skinny male service worker holding a walkie-talkie?”

They said: “Ha ha ha ha! We have never used any walkie-talkies ever since we opened business here!”

I was ready to faint!

They comforted me: “But we do have skinny service workers …”

I explained what happened to them, and I used my mobile phone to show them the story-only version of the story on Douban.

When they came to: “We reached the entrance of the Babela restaurant. There were a lot of people. The Babela receptionist gave us a card with the number 311,” they got excited and said: “Let us check the record on the evening of October 3.

So I checked the waiting list on the evening of October 3. There was no number 311. I said feebly: “Can I take a photo?” They said no. I understand that because this was their internal record. But I told them: “Don’t throw it out.” They said alright.

That’s it. That’s how far I got.

October 12th UPDATE: Rong Rong has been human flesh searched. The stories are not real and as some Chinese netizens suspected, she was hired by Tianya for this publicity stunt to increase Tianya’s popularity/hype.

Written by Fauna

Fauna is a mysterious young Shanghainese girl who lives in the only place a Shanghainese person would ever want to live: Shanghai. In mid-2008, she started chinaSMACK to combine her hobby of browsing Chinese internet forums with her goal of improving her English. Through her tireless translation of popular Chinese internet news and phenomenon, her English has apparently gotten dramatically better. At least, reading and writing-wise. Unfortunately, she's still not confident enough to have written this bio, about herself, by herself.

  • bert

    yo! that is disturbing!

  • omg

    All I can say is 囧。。 and hopefully 沙发

  • bert

    And congrats China on the the Nobel prize win! You deserve it!

    • Mosanto

      I can’t read chinese so i’m hoping my favorite website, ChinaSMACK, will translate netizen comments on that important news.

      Are we heading towards a new Tiananmen Square massacre or are chinese people too busy with internet gossip and Guci sales to care about democracy?

      • Snater

        As interesting as that would be, it’s not in this website’s best interest to violate a media black out.

        • Justin

          Well it’s not exactly a total media blackout. Read today’s People’s Daily Online English Edition (translated from the Chinese) and you’ll see the Chinese government fire back about Liu Xiaobo’s award. Of course, he is referred to in the article not as a peaceful advocate for democratic change but rather a “a convicted criminal agitator.”


          Also, you can access the New York Time’s coverage (it’s in English mind you) sans VPN, which shows that China’s internet control is mostly focused on the uneducated Chinese-speaking poor who form the most volatile group.

          For timely news about what the Chinese government thinks about any given topic (including the rising price of iron ore and how China is the tops in high-speed rail track mileage) please read People’s Daily Online English edition and support my employer (The CPC).

          • So, how is it living as a toady to a corrupt pack of dictators? Inquiring minds wish to know . . . .

          • Justin

            Well in response FOARP, it’s just a job. I am a copy-editor that’s all. I don’t write propaganda. I just make sure it’s clean and well edited, so I’m not a “toady” and I publish critical essays elsewhere that are apart from my work at People’s Daily. And I even publish articles calling for open government, freedom of information and increased environmental regulation INSIDE the state media.

            China is a system and if you want to be a journalist and hope to report something resembling truth you have to learn to work within said system or you won’t last long. This is a means to end. I’m starting at the state media to learn the rules to the game while I study Chinese. One day I’ll be working at the New York Times or for Harper’s and I’ll be writing real news that might have an actual impact on the world while you’ll probably still be teaching English and benefiting from the status quo created by this so-called “pack of corrupt dictators.”

            So in short, it feels pretty good.

          • Justin

            Also, I would add that my post was meant to be sort of tongue-in-cheek but I guess that was lost on you. I do want people to visit the site though because more hits means I get a raise. These bastards are pretty cheap considering they are the government of the 2nd largest economy in the world and I am one of the better copy-editors in this city and the only native English speaker in the whole goddamn company.

            And I would also like to add that I sleep very well at night in my rundown Chinese apartment knowing that I do a good job. If I’m going to edit propaganda all day, it’s going to be the clearest, most grammatical and most natural-sounding propaganda ever written in the English language. Such is the joy of a decent copy-editor.

      • Alikese

        According to a couple of articles I’ve read the government is deleting all of comments regarding Liu, so without a big response by one of the communities there wouldn’t be much to translate.

        • Justin

          My roommate tried to text Liu Xiaobo in Chinese characters to his girlfriend but it wouldn’t send, so it’s not just the Internet.

        • telia

          Ah, “a more positive, mature way.” Translation: the way you would like them to.

    • xmcx

      This finally gives the PRC a rank truly befitting their great power after the glorious rise, with 14 Nobel prizes: 4 more than Belgium, 4 less than Japan.

      • dim mak

        We don’t want this. We want the science prizes.

    • @@@

      nobel peace prize

      giving a shit


    • Bob

      Congraduations Liu Xiaobo on willing the democracy prize

      • Bob

        Winning* the prize too :)

    • As has been pointed out, the impact of this win coincides with the “democracy dialogue” Grampa Wen has been teases us with. Winning the No bell Peas prize is momentous for China and that guy in jail; the more he stays in jail, the bigger his cause will become and the more eventual his release will be.

      I am amazed by the foreign ministry’s reaction; it’s a simultaneous spasm of denial, ignorance, threatening and bullying all at once. If you’ll read your own words, teh Zhina, you’ll read the words of a dictatorship; you’re proving them right with your words.

      If you want Chinese netizen reaction, I can give you one: someone replied to me that the No Bell Peas prize “has gone downhill ever since they awarded it to Obama last year”. Like as if its a Grammy or a People’s Choice Award…

  • Stefane

    Thats a female?

  • Mosanto

    Your article needs some work. I still don’t know why she became a ‘celebrity’.

    • aclcla

      haha yeah…i was just gonna comment the same thing. ‘is it just me, or is this posting really hard to understand?’

      • anon

        It probably has to do with the fact that she’s not translating the actual posts about Xiao Yue Yue written by Rong Rong and only reporting on the existence of the phenomenon. I don’t blame her, the stories are REALLY long. Plus, a lot of what makes the stories so funny to Chinese readers wouldn’t translate into English well.

        Basically Xiao Yue Yue is some fat girl who said and did a lot of really outrageous and disgusting things (for example, believing banana peels will make her nipples pink, telling a taxi driver to drink his own piss for virility), and the writer Rong Rong was really good at telling the stories.

        • crackedbamboo

          Silly girl– everyone knows banana peels only make nipples more slippery. Thanks for moving things along, but I agree this posting was quite confusing, and while “reporting on the existence of the phenomenon”, does little elucidate the craze and “religion” behind it, save perhaps a magnificent blend of obesity and stupefaction.

  • Johann

    i would like to congratulate the chinese people for the nobel prize win, even though as far as i read few people inside china know liu, i hope the people of china stands out to the tyrants and can finally find freedom, best wishes to all chinese that want to live a free life.

  • Remember Kiddies… Fauna has less protection that Moot, so… if you are looking for articles about “that event”, swing over to Roland Soong’s site:


    • Hm… I may have spoken too soon… … ah, ‘funny’ article about Mao though.

      • Thank you Roland – it appears that you are the first to comment, on either side of the Asian Rim. Props to you – hope to see Kai and the rest follow suit.

      • Hm… ‘Smack going the way of the ‘Daily? Que sera. Sera. Stay safe Fauna.

    • Okay… no responses yet at ‘Divide or ‘Hush… give it time… or not…

      • KT

        Yes. The general silence, Matthew, although there are a couple of exceptions.

        • True, very true – but like the old days at the ‘Daily – it appears that ambiguity will be name of the game for a good long time at various sites around the ‘Net.

      • Looks like ‘Divide is back in the game – with a very funny take on reactions. Kudos to Kai

      • ‘Hush in the game too – and the 5CP out in force… too bad they all seem to be quoting form the same playbook. Kinda makes the whole ‘soft power’ look even more humorous. {laughing}

    • bert

      That site has been blocked in China for awhile now. Anyone know a good proxy to get it to open up? I can’t find one that works.

  • joe momma

    a mainland chinese just won the nobel peace prize and yall posting up this?!?! for shame…

  • Justin

    Damn. From the picture there is nothing 小 about this girl. Maybe that’s like calling an 6’5″ nightclub bouncer “Tiny.”

  • CP

    MB all the cloud, all the cloud !

  • C Mao

    Cyborgs ——–>

  • Chef Rocco

    Xiao Yue Yue should be awarded a Peace prize, she has the ability to choke Yang womao’s overzeal of political yada yada with her D-cup breast, more effective than Great Wall, hehe…

  • pervertt

    For once, I’m happy to see a thread about a trivial matter being hijacked for a more nobel purpose. I can’t wait to read what the Chinese think about latest recipient of the Peace Prize. Stuff the censors and their ilk.

    • Ahhhhh

      Who gives a crap about this nobel prize? Last year they gave it to the world’s biggest warlord, and this year they give it *against* China.

      Ridiculous western fucks now all wet their pants like little schoolgirls!

      Move along, nothing to see here…

      • Happy Man

        Last I checked, Liu Xiaobo is not Western. Nor are all the people ‘trying’ to talk about it, but failing because of the censorship and blockage.

      • pervertt

        Actually, millions do. Including many Chinese.
        But you are right, there are more important things in this world to worry about. Like Xiao Yueyue’s curly pubic hair.

        • Bob

          It is so heart warming to know that so many foreign friends in Norway and else where have such vested interest in the Gorbachev/Yeltsin style transformation of our government and the promotion of peace (western democracy) upon our lands.

      • ungentrified

        The official indignation and the blustery response from the Chinese government would seem to indicate that someone in Beijing cared enough to complain.

        • pervertt

          They do, they care a lot. They are very much aware of the enormous international prestige attached to this prize. But they pretend that they don’t care. They, or their numerous agents, try to sound dismissive of the prize, they ridicule past recipients, they paint it as a divisive plot by western powers. But they know the damage has already been done and they now have one hell of a job trying to explain why the first native Chinese winner of the prize is currently incarcerated.

  • UDL..

    all i have to say is, the original post by the LZ, fucking horrifying. feel deeply, deeply, deeply fucking deeply sorry for both of them, for people that live around her, that are stuck with her, that have even got spoken to by her, breathed the same air.. eye opener this girl is..

  • brothers

    I thought that chinasmack was a webpage where everything could be discussed. I am a foreigner and I understand that li.u. X.i.a.o b.o. isn’t the person to peace in China, but I would have hoped that this topic became a discussion on this website instead of a fat cartoon.

    • anon

      You thought wrong. This post is also not about a “fat cartoon”. It’s about the most popular internet story on the Chinese internet right now…which is exactly what this website promises to report on. Next time try reading the the About Us.

  • Dan Danger

    So engaging a topic and one readers here will chew on for days I am sure. Why nothing on Liu Xiao Bo yet?

  • R. Walsh

    I would give whole worlds to see all of Rong-Rong’s posts in a good translation. From the dim lens of google, what I can see is hilarious. There is just no way this is a hoax. It has the ring of authenticity.

  • Don’t care about Xiao Yue Yue, I also came here to read about Liu Xiaobo. Do it.

    • Chef Rocco

      You really care about Liu Xiaobo? Hmm, Let me put it this way from a chef’s perspective:

      Liu is like a piece of cheese which is very tasty and essential in a westerner’s dish, but if you add it into a Chinese dish, you may say the dish is still delicious, even taste-bud inspiring, but for most Chinese people, the mixed dish is something weird and an appetite killer.

      On the other hand, Xiao Yue Yue is like MSM which contains no nutrition and may cause allergy to some people, but she indeed enhances many people’s appetite…

      • anon

        Good analogy. MSG though. MSM is “mainstream media”.

      • Cheese is used very often in casseroles in Hong Kong. And in Taiwan, they eat it raw off the cow.

        • Chef Rocco

          I agree with you. Many HK people, especially youth, get used to cheese, they eat pizza more often. But they still consider it fast food, not main course at home.

          In Taiwan, those eating it raw don’t get it well-absorbed, diarrhea is the result, unfortunately.

          • m-e-t-a-p-h-o-r

            And to think you were the one who started this.

          • Do you know what a cassarole is? Or the dangers of eating cheese “raw”?

            Man, it doesn’t matter the 洋人is saying; you have to oppose it.

            You may just change your mind when you taste freedo– I mean, brie.

          • Chef Rocco

            “Man, it doesn’t matter the 洋人is saying; you have to oppose it.”

            You get me wrong, I am just one of these who don’t blindly agree on whatever the 洋人 is saying.

            “You may just change your mind when you taste freedo– I mean, brie.”

            I changed my mind long time ago, I tasted it, then say to myself “this tastes really good, but it has to be cooked with original ingredients, I don’t want to add it to every dish that I am cooking, it would spoil this dish and that dish together”.

          • Dude, you’re stretching the metaphor a little too thin; unless of course you mean that China has enjoyed 5000 cheese-free years that won’t be interrupted.

            Seriously, you haven’t tried brie cheese? Haven’t been to a Hong Kong cha can ting? Dude, forget freedom – have you lived yet?

          • Chef Rocco

            Terrior, you are apparently a dude lack of cooking experience and life experience also. You are so stuck to some abstract notions such as Freedo or brie cheese, you seem to forget that life is comprised of multiple colors, diversity and varieties. You may have deeper understanding on freedom after you open your mind to various cultures, people and foods…

          • mankouzanghua

            Who are we to tell others what to eat? Cheese, pizzas, casseroles, MSG — half of us don’t even know what’s going on in our own damn kitchens, yet we don’t hesitate to foist our own “recipes” on others. Who are we to say that popularizing cheese wouldn’t be totally disastrous for China? How are you so certain that taking the cookbooks out of the hands of a group of highly educated engineers would be a good idea? It’s very easy to point fingers and criticize with no responsibility or accountability for your words and actions. Perhaps some of you don’t care about a billion people with diarrhea, or maybe you just never seriously thought about the complexities of modern day China as a society and economy? China has real problems and will solve them in its own ways.

            And for anyone who doesn’t have an average Chinese person to talk to, let me tell you — they don’t see you as doing them any favors by trying to cram cheese down their throats. They’d react in pretty much the same way you would if a Chinese person started telling you that you’d been brainwashed and oppressed by your government.

          • Dude,
            did you just say Freedo?

            Yup, you sure know what you are talking about. And because you’re Chinese, I’ll spell it out for you: I’m being sarcastic.

          • this is fantastic. you, good sir, are an excellent poster.

            personally I just keep my taste to myself, unless I invite other people into my home to share and enjoy the broad spectrum of western cuisine. chinese food does a surprisingly good job of keeping chinese people well-fed, which has historically been a difficult task and is in fact the primary goal of all foodstuffs.

            as much as I like eating chinese food, I simply cannot eat it for three meals a day. everything has the same flavors, too much oil, and ingredients themselves are often of dubious quality. even if you carefully inspect the meat for freshness at your local barbecue stand, you can never be entirely certain whether they are cooking with carcinogenic recycled oil or over hot coals containing dangerous heavy metals.

            personally I do not believe that chinese cuisine could be improved by emulating western food. one need only visit the horrors of babela’s kitchen to experience exactly how badly the chinese replicate foreign recipes, no matter how simple and straightforward they might be.

            similarly, an hour at the beijing hooters on friday night should be all you need to realize that – even if done properly – foreign cuisine can prove to be spectacularly unpopular among the local population.

            china, however, is a country with a rapidly expanding palate. compared to the variety of food available 30 years ago, today’s middle kingdom is a vast cornucopia of flavor.

            while gourmands will probably never win over the hungry masses, as china has developed its tastes have expanded. a number of common foreign ingredients (such staples as pasta, butter, and olive oil) are already widely available (though expensive) and small cottage industries have sprung up providing chinese-made foreign goods on the internet, such as fresh gouda cheese from shanxi province.

            chinese tastes will eventually expand to the variety and quality of food available in many other countries, but the market will grow at its own rate. for example the alarming lack of mexican or cuban food in china may very well be reversed in ten or twenty years, but even if taco bell and pollo tropical become the new KFC, nobody is going to stop eating hot pot.

            because people like hot pot. everything kind of tastes the same, but it keeps you from starving and won’t make you sick. you even get to inspect the ingredients and cook them yourself.

            but then there’s the oil. you never know what’s in the oil. and that’s the real problem with chinese food.

      • pervertt

        I like this food analogy. Let’s continue with it, it confuses the heck out of the censors and internet police who visit Chinasmack for a job (Nice job if you could get it).

        There are chefs who stick with traditional recipes and never try anything new. They say, you should not use this ingredient – it doesn’t work and nobody will want to eat it. Anyone who wants to cook with this type of ingredient is mad and should be locked up for their own good.

        And then there are chefs who are prepared to experiment and try new ingredients and new cooking techniques. You might call it fusion food. Sometimes, especially in the hands of inept chefs, the result is a culinary disaster. The food tastes like shit and nobody wants to eat it. But often, in the hands of expert chefs who are exposed to a wide range of cooking styles, they come with delicious new dishes that win widespread acclaim.

        Have any of you seen Iron Chef? It is a crazy TV program from Japan where top chefs from all over come to do battle with the 3 Iron Chefs. I’ve noticed that the Japanese iron chef uses non-Japanese ingredients like foie gras and mayonnaise. With these, and with traditional Japanese ingedients of course, he produces wonderful dishes that wins the hearts and stomachs of the judging panel. And of course slobbering viewers like myself.

        There may be lessons we can all learn from Iron Chef.

        • Chef Rocco

          Iron Chef is a good program, I like it.

          I agree with you that recipes need to be created and improved constantly. But remember foods are just a component of culture. New recipes have to be accepted by populace to last, otherwise, they won’t survive long among competition of other recipes no matter how the judging panel (some elites in a society) likes them. The final judges are common people on streets.

          Lao Tze says “Governing a big country is like cooking a small fish”.
          My understanding: when cooking, though the ingredients are important, we need good cooking materials (democracy, human rights, rule by law. etc), but equally essential task lies at how you proceed cooking, if you keep turning over the fish, it may become fragmented and not edible at all…

          • xmcx

            1)Good fresh veggies grown in the North arrive spoiled after lengthy transportation to the West and South where they can no longer be eaten raw. At least stir frying is required to stave off dysentry at this juncture.
            2)Some people, almost every time they go to a restaurant, feel disappointed with what they ordered and would rather have “what he’s having over there, that looks nice, way nicer than this ** I ordered.” Maybe there is more envy than gourmet finesse to this attitude.”Bring me the LARGE dessert CARt”, you’ll often hear them say: they like to have the rest of the room watch them.
            3)The current consensus seems to be that when there is enough plentiful white rice to line everyone’s stomachs, then no matter the cooking materials used for the sauce and side dishes,no matter how one proceeds to cooking, the guests will smile and keep coming back happily.Where opinions diverge is whether more rice can be obtained through happy-friendly tilling the soil together, or whether the only way to find more rice is to beat up the fatso at the end of the table whom one might suspect is hoarding and hiding loads in his cheeks, his pockets and folded napkins.I’m not sure cheese has anything to do with the answer to this.But for all I gather,the common people of civilization are really well united behind the fact that they are all skinny while fatties are different and smelly.

  • wupeng

    i have to say that xiaoyueyue throws a thunder to my brain.
    besides feng phenomenon,there is still existing such best-quality girl in my conservated country.
    looks like our country is developing fast as its development on econimy.
    i figure that there will be more and more best-quality celibrities exposed on the internet

  • Well folks, in a vain attempt to get this trainwreck of a thread back on the tracks, and post something related somewhat to this article, I dig up a track from Freddie Mercury and boys from Queen, Fat Bottomed Girls (Radio Edit Version):

    Are you gonna take me home tonight ?
    Ah down beside that red firelight
    Are you gonna let it all hang out ?
    Fat bottomed girls
    You make the rockin’ world go round

    Hey I was just a skinny lad
    Never knew no good from bad
    But I knew life before I left my nursery – huh
    Left alone with big fat Fanny
    She was such a naughty nanny
    Heap big woman you made a bad boy out of me
    Hey hey!

    I’ve been singing with my band
    Across the wire across the land
    I seen every blue eyed floozy on the way, hey
    But their beauty and their style
    Went kind of smooth after a while
    Take me to them dirty ladies everytime

    Oh won’t you take me home tonight ?
    Oh down beside your red firelight
    Oh and you give it all you got
    Fat bottomed girls you make the rockin’ world go round
    Fat bottomed girls you make the rockin’ world go round

    Hey listen here
    Now I got mortgages on homes
    I got stiffness in ma’ bones
    Ain’t no beauty Queens in this locality (I tell you)
    Oh but I still get my pleasure
    Still get my greatest treasure
    Heap big woman you gonna make a big man out of me

    Now get this
    Oh (I know) you gonna take me home tonight (please)
    Oh down beside that red firelight
    Are you gonna let it all hang out ?
    Fat bottomed girls you make the rockin’ world go round yeah
    Fat bottomed girls you make the rockin’ world go round

    Get on your bikes and ride
    Ooh yeah oh yeah them fat bottomed girls
    Fat bottomed girls
    Yeah yeah yeah
    Alright, ride ’em, c’mon
    Fat bottomed girls – yes yes

  • Chen

    She looked like a he. You all sure IT’s a she?

  • laselle

    Obama +Iraqi war +peace prize? hehe

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