‘Made In China’ Ad Campaign: Chinese React To Reactions

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A Chinese netizen on the popular Mop BBS translated the English comments responding to recent Shanghaiist, CNNGo, and China Real Time Report posts about China’s “Made in China” advertising campaign:

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From CNNGo:

Beijing has just launched a new global ‘Made in China’ ad campaign mainly in response to Chinese-made products taking a beating over the last few years. The campaign has been in the works for quite some time, but last year’s tainted milk crisis delayed the production and release of the campaign for obvious reasons.

The new ‘Made in China’ ad campaign fired up earlier this week with a 30 second commercial airing on CNN International featuring the tagline “Made in China: Made with the world” and stresses Chinese companies cooperation with overseas firms in producing quality products. The new campaign will highlight product labels that reflect this cooperation with tags like, “Made in China with French designers.”

The commercial is currently only airing in Asia, but is believed to hit other overseas markets relatively soon.

From China Real Time Report:

“Made in China” has taken a hit in recent years following a series of quality and safety scandals involving a range of products, from toys to dog food to drywall.

In an effort to repair the damaged reputation of its exports, the Chinese government is launching a global ad campaign aimed at changing perceptions among consumers overseas. This week, the first TV commercial in that campaign began airing in parts of Asia, and will soon be seen in North America as well.

Under the slogan, “Made in China, made with the world,” the ad emphasizes the role of Chinese collaboration with foreign companies in producing high-quality, high-tech goods: A pair of running shoes features a label that reads “Made in China with American sports technology,” an MP3 player that resembles an iPod Nano is etched with “Made in China with software from Silicon Valley,” and so on.

Read the comments that the Chinese netizen translated on: “How foreign netizens view the “Made in China” advertising” (Mop)

Below are Chinese netizen comments responding to the translated English comments.

Comments from Mop:

QQ晒密:

Who cares how they view it/what they think!!!

专日五毛和小白:

When it can be changed to “Designed by China”, then we can consider ourselves NB.

哈利扑特:

Without China, these laowai [foreigners] would not be able to survive, just like when Chinese New Year’s arrives in the city and the migrant workers return home to celebrate and the city becomes a mess!!

iamkidd:

Yeah, first get rid of Japan, second bangzi country [Korea], China jia you!!! Create a China brand!

mornings16:

They’re not too bad [the comments], I’ve been familiar with this issue in the past, often reading newspapers and similar things. In fact, laowai have already changed from discussing China as a threat to discussing how China should be responsible. Overall, China is laomei‘s [Americans'] largest creditor. With their economic crisis, they need the world to be balanced again, so that’s why there are so many anti-dumping cases.

caochencc:

I am in America. Here, Chinese-made things is truly considered second-rate goods. However, the majority of the ordinary common people will still choose Made in China things. Why?
The price is 1/3 to 1/4th of European or American domestic prices, and moreover, the quality is very good.
Every time I go to Dollar Tree (a $1 store) or a convenience store, there area always laowai holding a product and saying to me “all made in China.”
It still feels a little strange.

testnage96:

America can think whatever it wants to think!
We only need to do even better!
I love my motherland! Strongly love this piece of land! Even though it isn’t perfect right now!
Tomorrow will be even better!

lodor:

After seeing this post, my strongest feeling is, the netizens on American discussion forums are all expressing their own views on a subject. Even if it is an argument, they will still discuss their reasoning. However, on our Mop, everywhere is flooded with repeated abuse. Even though it is just a small issue, in this we can still see a country’s soft power.  Why is China’s image that of being backward? [To understand this] we must look at ourselves for the reason, and on this problem, we cannot have an attitude of trying to cover up our mistakes/shortcomings.

骑千里马:

China jia you. Migrant workers jia you.
We have the world’s most profitable bosses. We also have the world’s most poor and lowly slave workers. I feel the most heartfelt pride of being Chinese. (Faulty sentence?)

猪就一个字:

If America has the ability [truly does not like Chinese products], then it should stop selling “Made in China” products.

老太太转被窝:

Good products often flow out [of the country], for example: women.
Chinese people never get to use/enjoy their own best products.
Japan, however, leaves the best for itself and exports to China the lousiest garbage.

VCGary:

Laowai can only only helplessly accept the situation now.
Made in China is like rape. Since they cannot resist it, they can only close their eyes and enjoy.

Also, while I am at it, let me bemoan something…
Foreign netizens, when expressing their opinions, only confine themselves to the facts/stick to the topic , unlike certain fenqing in the country, immediately spouting after just looking at the title.

MOPstaffeatdicks:

The main problem with “Made in China” is that there are too many fakes from Zhejiang people.

哥是寂寞的牛排:

Actually, foreigners are just like Chinese people, some people think “Made in China” is not bad, cheap, practical. There are also people who think “Made in China” is synonymous with fake goods, low-grade goods. Different people with different life backgrounds, economic ability, front different places, will necessarily have different perspectives.
But while Mop netizens enthusiastically talk, it is necessary to let everyone know, “Made in China” is the same as “Made in India, Pakistan, Indonesia, Mexico.” Most are all low-value-added products, and indeed the grade of those products are not high quality products.
That the go-vern-ment now puts out this large-scale advertisement is indeed a remedial effort, trying to rescue the “Made in China” reputation. However, this too could be a good thing, China raising its own image, preparing to invest even more Chinese-made products.
Economics is not a game, and a country’s image is also not formed overnight. What was previously owed, definitely now must be repaid. I just hope that in the future, in these advertisements, what comes after “Designed by” is not some other country.

Do you think the advertisements improve the “Made in China” reputation?

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  1. Reactions to chinasmack’s reactions of reactions will not be pretty

    • I live in the US and I also go to school here. Last semester when school was starting up I went out and bought a 24 pack of basic no. 2 pencils. School comes around and the teacher gives us a assignment and I go to sharpen my pencil. It wouldnt sharpen, just break apart and crumble into pieces and the lead would crack and fall out with it. I just couldnt help wondering. “who would make such a shit product?” sure enough I got home and looked at the package that they came in. MADE IN CHINA in all caps and bold like it was something to be proud of. I went to the store the next day found a 12 pack of no. 2 pencils MADE IN USA… ive been using those for the whole year. This pretty much sums up all my expirences with Chinese products.

      Now if you have the ability to use your own judgment, I advise you do that now. Look at your goverment controlled state -and even if you dont believe what I do about it- try to see the low quality pathetic knock-off “product” that they put out. If you have the ability to do that and can actualy see it for what it is. Try and tell me its good, its going to take a hell of alot of convincing.

  2. “Beijing has just launched a new global ‘Made in China’ ad campaign mainly in response to Chinese-made products taking a beating over the last few years. The campaign has been in the works for quite some time, but last year’s tainted milk crisis delayed the production and release of the campaign for obvious reasons.”

    I think this pretty much sums it up.

  3. Why is it that Korean toys don’t GIVE KIDS LEAD POISONING?

    Why is it that Korean drywall doesn’t CREATE POISONOUS GAS?

    Why is it that Korean baby formula doesn’t POISON BABIES?

    Why is it that Korean sofas don’t GIVE OFF TOXIC FUMES?

    Why is it that Korean pet food never CONTAINS POISON?

    It’s because our companies have morals and many of yours don’t, all the Chinese care about is getting rich and they don’t care how many people they kill on the way, it has become a nation of gangsters.

    • Well it goes like this: You pay peanuts, you get monkeys and with monkeys come monkey business and all humans are monkeys at heart one time or another. Except for Koreans of course, they are whatever their creation myth says they are.

      Suggest Pusan Puss-boy google “Korean (or insert any nation) products recall” and read and weep or at least get some perspective.

      • PUSAN PLAYA is a troll. he should be recalled to wherever he comes from (is he really korean? ’cause all the koreans I have met so far are all quite nice and intelligent)

      • Koreans are – of course – the kids of a sky god and his wife, who was a tiger but turned into a woman after staying in a cave for forty days and only eating garlic. Don’t you know anything?

    • I’m ending two years of working at a Korean International School.

      There are less morals (and more arrogance) in the leadership at this school than any other Chinese school I’ve worked in.

      Don’t talk about Korean morals. All the Chinese leaders in my city hate Koreans because the Korean companies often threat their (Chinese) workers worse than Chinese companies!

      The Chinese term for Koreans is very fitting.

      Bangzi.

      • Why do Chinese people always always claim to be something they are not. PusanPlaya is a Chinese troll whos pretending to be Korean. And you are pretending to be a teacher who’s worked in Korea.

        Care to name the Korean school you worked at as well as your name? P.S. 98% of Koreans hate China. They even surpass the Japanese.

    • We all know that PUSAN PLAYA is just here to push buttons, to make us all laugh our asses off, or punch the computer monitor but seriously…

      all countries go through these same stages of development. The US, Japan, Germany, all had times when their products were more dangerous, their business people less scrupulous, their children more toxic.

    • what are you doing here? this is CHINASMACK, not KOREASMACK…. get out of here, you are not wanted.

    • Pusan Playa,

      I respectfully reflute your comment on the relation between morality and nationality. One’s moral judgement is based on personal experience, education, ethics and values. While it is true that low quality Chinese products have made head lines around the world, it does not represent the morality of ALL Chinese people. I condemn the poor judgement of these business owners. However, I would not go so far as to stereotype all Chinese people. Nor would I judge the moral value of a company based on its nationality.

      Many international companies (including Korean companies) have also invested in China. Their standard of practice is also questionable at times because these companies would take advantage of China’s loose commerce and env’t regulations. In that case, should we question the moral integrity of international companies investing in China as well?

    • Why is it that no one buy korean pet food?
      why is it that no one buy korean sofas?
      why is it that no one buy korean drywall?
      why is it that no one buy korean toys?
      why is it that no one buy korean baby formula?
      and…
      Why is it that consumer still buy Chinese even though there are still better options in the market?
      Why is it that companies still outsource in China even though other countries are cheaper?
      Something to think about…

      • Because Koreans are too busy building your high tech electronics and cars to be focusing on pet food, baby formula and furniture.

        Chinese products suck balls.

    • HA! You’re a drop kick. your saying Korean companies are good because they don’t kill people. Well done Korean companies! You’re an idiot.

  4. LAOWAI without China will survive and live without any problems .We did it for centuries .
    Without our machinery technology engineer ,you will produce nothing .
    We are rich because of the machinery plains trains cars robots we sell to you ,and other countries .
    China is creditor of America debt .Nobody asked them to do so .
    Creditor of America debt and How much is being paid a factory worker or a waitress in China 1000 yuan .
    millions of them .

    You should be 500 milions and you are one billion sometihng ,that’s a world problem .your mistake .you must population dicrease .one children .

    eh even if you are frendly people ,i live here ,you welcome foreigners ,super .but we don’t depend on you .

    And there is lake of interest in the product you create manufacture .
    In EUROPE we like the items ,we like to built a strong product that last decades .
    all what you produce here collapse after a few weeks .

    And don’t migrate by us .live happy in your country .enjoy your country ,not our .don’t migrate .We moke the migrant ,laugh at them .

    • *Scratch head* Verstehe nur Bahnhof.

    • so what the heck are you doing in china, you parasite!

      moron, your bus is leaving.

      • the percentage of foreigner is so very low in china .
        i will not endanger your asian chinese spaces ,
        i will stay here a few years and travel .
        i don’t bring my whole family here.just one me and a few years thats all .i will not pretend to be chinese and find a way to have your nationality to have advantages .
        i will not bring 5 people of my family that cheated to have the nationality of a country they don’t belong .

        that endanger our white caucasian spaces .

        you succed to be 99.99 percent chinese .
        japanese ,french english you succed to throw them away the last century .
        i envy you .
        by us some places 15 percent of foreigners .
        outside in our streets you are not in your own country any more .
        we have to fix this .

        we will .nicely .nobody will get hurt ,event staying good friends after .
        asians africans ex soviet ,south american ,can built wonderfull cities with a lot of equipment and enjoy it .
        no need to look after that by others .
        every body in its own lovely mother land ,work on it ,work for it .
        no immigrant ,we mock them

        • “japanese ,french english you succed to throw them away the last century .
          i envy you .”

          Japanese and Western people, when they to China the last century, were not “migrants” : they were invaders, they didn’t try to be part of the Chinese society, they didn’t respect the Chinese rule, they wanted to be superior to the Chinese in China. It was colonization.

          Today migrants are not in Western countries to do colonization.

          “We moke the migrant ,laugh at them.”
          This is so respectful of you.

          “every body in its own lovely mother land ,work on it ,work for it”
          Are you aware that we live in a globalized world? I think you’re stuck in the 20′s or something.

          PS : don’t call me Chinese nationalistg, I’m from France.

          • Immigrants are invaders also .they escape a country a society that has problems ,often civil war
            or poverty .
            Once by us nothing change they have always the same characteristics .
            In Europe more bombs because of them some of them want to terrorist attack the
            country ,they immigrates
            some put fire on cars ,thief ,our jail are full of foreigners immigrants ,80 percents of prisoners
            are immigrants family ..
            it’s far better when every body live in it’s own country ,trust me .
            4 or 5 % of foreigner in a country is a maximum after danger ,that slow down your country .
            When people that come from a less successful country as yours enter .Your country slow down .
            The globalization it’s just a fashion world ,with no meaning .
            French are well known for speking Fancy weird.
            Nation still exist more than ever .each nation take care of its own economy .
            The French ,anyway they are not important industry exporter .
            just food perfume tourism .and an invaded country .not important country on this planet .

          • Are you one kind of stranger living in France ?
            Then you are not french at all and you will never be one even your Children .
            but chinese .You will never be a french .just a forever immigrant .
            better come back in your country and participate help your real country to built products that
            last decades .and enjoy its flourishing economy .

            In Paris i was their a few times ,i was chocked ,like the French people doesn’t exist any more in
            Paris ,all Italians ,Portugueses ,Arabs ,Africans ,polish ,vietnamese . a chaos .60 percent .
            So many .so many strangers.
            Even the president Sarkozi is a roumanian stranger .It’s a joke .

            I had A weird feeling ,i have visited this City a few times .
            Does The Government let every body come in? what’s happen ?
            They should react .
            But Paris ,nobody is Caucasian white any more in this place .
            The strangers have succeed to throw away the French .Unbelievable this place .

            Every body must live happy in it’s own country ,the one of it’s ancestors .

          • I think racist people should go home.

            Stop insulting France. Stop insulting the migrants. Stop insulting foreigners.

          • you are not from France .
            you are not a french .and will never be one .
            you are an immigrate .
            don’t dream don’t pretend to be french ,you damage the reputation of this french .
            say what you are ,you are what your father and grand father are were.
            like evrybody on earth .

  5. It’s sad that people think a commercial like this will change people’s mind about China, it’s sadder that it actually will.

  6. Pointless. No one trusts Chinese words at this point anyways. What people want are actions, not more sweet words. Dollar Tree isn’t what I’d call a fine purveyor of products.

    • Well here’s a good idea. Stop shopping at the dollar store. Go boycott Chinese goods and pay extra cash for domestic or anything other than Chinese. No one is forcing you to buy cheap goods. You get what you pay for.

      Honestly, I have higher quality products from China. But they aren’t cheap.

  7. Who cares what the rest of the world thinks of Chinese products?

    China has a quality control problem. Just fix it. Stop with the ad campaign and fix the problem. Once the problem is fixed the products will sell themselves.

    The level of insecurity from Chinese people is astonishing. Constantly needing praise and reassurance. The need for an ad campaign speaks volumes to that.

    The fact is products made in Japan, the US, and Europe are made better. That is not a slight against the people of China it is just fact.

    The Chinese have the ability to make products of the same quality – but do they want to foot the cost and change to manufacturing protocal?

    Also – if the US and Europe stop buying Chinese made products China’s economy stops in its tracks. It is an export based economy. But that will never ever happen. Cheap goods (quality and price) are what most people want.

    • Ouch, truth hurts

    • China honestly doesn’t have a quality control problem. A lot of high end products are made in China nowadays. Nearly every computer component is now made in China, and computers are now faster, cheaper, and more reliable than ever before. I recall seeing an article about how many really expensive Italian brand suits are now made in China, and a bunch of experts couldn’t even tell the difference most of the time! Chinese wind turbine companies are now building powerplants in the US. Chinese telecom companies are now setting up high-tech networks in Norway.

      The thing is that since a lot of things are made in China, China of course will make low quality products for the dollar store as well. That’s not an issue of country of origin. That’s an issue of price. It doesn’t matter what country makes it. You’re going to get a poor quality product at such low prices.

      So why do people just focus on the dollar store items and the recalls, and hardly cover other recalls? It’s because of the current sinophobic climate sparked by the recession. Think back 5 years ago. Did anyone really trash Chinese products this much? Nope. Did the media focus so much on Chinese product recalls? Nope. The current hate right now is due to media manipulation and sinophobism.

      Now, will this advertising campaign help? Definitely not. I have a feeling it will have the opposite effect. Westerners are already very uneasy about the growing Chinese power. This will only fuel the sinophobism.

      The Chinese could make the best products in the world and people would still jump on them for every mistake. It’s just a fact of life for being a growing superpower that isn’t in line with western ideals.

      • No, you can’t. There’s a reason why China can’t come up with original ideas anymore. There’s a reason that China only makes cheap knock-offs or uses slave labor to make Western-designed products.

        It’s because there’s no incentive to do better than the next guy in a communist country. Communism rewards laziness and punishes success.

        The non-productive are cared for at the expense of the productive. You are dependent on CAPITALIST practices, like making and selling things, to get the money you need.

        When it comes right down to it, communism is impossible and a total farce. If you believe it works, you’ve been brainwashed by your state-controlled media so badly that you can’t tell which end is up anymore.

        In a capitalist system, the man who invents the best product gets rich. Not the man who makes counterfeit versions of another man’s invention. That’s why China hasn’t gone to the Moon and America did 40 years ago.

        It has nothing to do with Sinophobia either. It has to do with people not wanting to buy FAKE eggs, POISONED milk, LEAD filled toys etc.

        [Note from Fauna: Comments under different names (GO CAPITALISM, lol/LOL, Capitalist Pig, COMMUNISM SUCKS, Counterfeit Eggs, Capitalism Rocks Communism Sucks, & BRING HER TO JUSTICE).]

    • Too bad William Edwards Deming is dead.
      Who knows how Japanese goods would look like without him?

  8. Any suggestion that products made in China are low quality is willfully ignorant. Most designer products are made in China, with the odd piece being made in an even lower wage country in SE Asia. My phone and computer are both Apple products, and while you can argue about the quality of Apple products, the fact is that they are the most consumer-respected in the business.

    The problem lies not in the upper end products coming out of the country, which are typically “by french designers” or “american capital”. It’s the companies that produce cheap low quality products, which are not typically held to foreign standards of quality control.

    If there is any sense in which America and other developed countries “need” China and chinese labor, it’s for the cheap stuff; the stuff that has severe quality control issues.

    This ad campaign, at best, achieves a satisfactory misdirection.

    • > This ad campaign, at best, achieves a
      > satisfactory misdirection.

      Welcome to China, papering over the cracks since 1949.

    • Bull crap I work in the garment industry and the majority of high end designer brand goods are not made in China.

      The high end goods tend to be made in Portugal, Italy and Poland.

      The mid range goods are often made in those locations a lot more in Turkey and the rest in China.

      Cheap low end ranges are made in Turkey and the majority in China, some in India.

      Ultra cheap we don’t care if they fall apart goods are getting made in Bangladesh and Cambodia these days as those guys have started undercutting China.

  9. When China made products are so much cheaper then “Made In US/Japan/Europe” products it is wrong to compare quality, safety… vs those countries. It should be compared against India/Mexico/Other Developing Countries. In a capitalist economic system if China’s quality/cost is worse then others they will not be made in China will they?

    The reason why where it is made does not matter as much anymore is because the “Brand (Apple, Calvin Klein,…) has taken over as a guarantee of quality vs. the country of origin for all but the most expensive products (usually from Europe) for the rich.

    The US’s problem is that most US products are chemical (detergent, cola, cosmetics…) based middle class products or retail services (walmart, kfc, mcdonalds…) both of which do not need much labor from US workers.

  10. Designed by Apple in California.

  11. This ad, to me, doesn’t highlight the quality of Chinese products as much as the lack of original creation and design of products.

    When was the last time something was made AND designed in China?

    • Well 40 years ago the same was said about japanese products and 10 years ago for korean. Since manufacturing started here all the rest (R&D, Design, Branding…) will sooner or later follow along with their own well known companies/brands. China will never be known for high end products since the population is too large (only so many jobs manufacturing for the rich).

    • As I have said, the Chinese are doing very well in design in terms of telecom, renewable energies, and OEM computer components. They can’t build international consumer brands because the general public in the West dislike and fear the Chinese. There’s nothing to be ashamed about for “only” being able to outcompete and outdesign products used by governments and corporations instead of the xenophobic and emotional general public.

    • Oh, and the latest Buick designs, which are noted to be some of the best they have ever done, are largely done in Chinese design centres.

      • Yeah, notice you are talking about BUICK. The best products they EVER made still don’t stack up to their Japanese or German competitors! That the American auto industry is now in a position where it stands to gain from the designers in a primarily production-based environment says something about the state of US car industry (i.e. quality has been low for years, sales dismal, and effective R&D almost non-existent).

        • That’s not true at all. Their latest products are actually reviewed VERY well, and are par at least with Japanese products in design. This all changed when design moved to China of course.

  12. I don’t know if it’s just me, but when I see a company/country/person desperately trying to praise itself and even going to the extent of producing advertising campaigns to talk about how good it is, I see this more as an act of desperation and a real sign that things are not good. I think Western audiences are a little more cynical than the gullible Chinese audiences and most Westerners will find this campaign a little bit disturbing and it will possibly make them distrust Chinese made products even more. At least, I hope that’s what happens.

    As someone mentioned above, if the Chinese actually did work to improve the quality of their products instead of trying to make people think they are good, then that would work wonders for their reputation. It might take a while, but eventually opinions would change.

    • Do you mean like the “Cool Britania” campaign? I’m just saying…

      • That wasn’t a campaign . . .

        • See for yourself if you don’t believe me:

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cool_Britannia

          No advertising campaign created it, it was just one of those vacuous phrases the media and politicians like to throw around. If Britain did manage to change its image in the 90′s, it was because of a new generation of innovation (Britpop, Britart) and a change in government – perhaps China could try this?

          • Okay, it was a failed attempt to turn something back around on someone who was sounding ignorant by suggesting developed nations like the UK, US, Japan and their various government agencies don’t create promotional campaigns for their products and industries. It’s a normal part of business and government and it’s not just about tourism. Besides, Shanghai Brit is dead wrong in his idea that it’s true quality that counts… it’s perception for most people, it’s the idea of a brand. We all know brand X is great, and known for it’s high quality, but according to who? Have we tested it and compared it to the rest ourselves? Just convince someone that something is quality and they’ll believe it. They’ll likely never test it or compare it themselves.

    • I seem to recall the origin of country labeling was in the late 1800s with Britain having to deal with cheaper (and better?) German and American imported manufactured goods. I may be mistaken, but they forced importers to label the country of origin with the expectation that British customers would prefer to buy “superior” British goods. That turned out well.

    • “As someone mentioned above, if the Chinese actually did work to improve the quality of their products”

      Well, just building it according to the blueprints, son.

  13. A Made in China ad campaign released during a year of 10% plus unemployment. Nothing like telling the world that your not so bad while at the same time reminding them that you have their jobs. Merry Christmas.

  14. When I see products “made in china” I automatically think of the people making those products and recieving just cents for their work = not being able to support themselves properly

    • When I see products “made in usa” I automatically think of the people making those products and recieving $50 per hour, with better health insurance than I have and a iron rice bowl handed over by the union, driving a hybrid SUV and having refinanced their house three times in the past decade to fund their summer and winter vacations.

  15. Ma de in China.
    lol

  16. The problem is that if there is another big crisis with tainted products, it will shatter any p.r. campaign in one fell swoop. Then your back to square one. You can’t control the western media as easily as Chinese media.

  17. this ad campaign only makes China look worse. Making it seem like they have no ability to design anything for themselves. I remember while in Beijing a lady was trying to sell computer components to me at Zhonguocun, and kept emphasizing. . Made in Taiwan!! Even the Chinese don’t trust stuff made in mainland China.

    • That’s true, it’s all ‘made in China designed by (insert country that is not China here)’, it basically tells Westerners what they already know. I know my iPhone was made in China and I don’t have a problem with that, if it was designed by Chinese I most likely would never have bought it. And it seems that the majority of product recalls have been for products that were designed by Chinese.

      I don’t think the Chinese have got to the root of the problem.

  18. I agree this ad doesn’t make China look any better if not worse. Like one of the comments above, when things can be Made AND “Designed by China” and not be stigmatized then maybe we’ve made some improvement. Otherwise it just makes it looks like China has no brains and are no better than mindless robots.

  19. OK I just watched that advert. It’s fucking stupid.

  20. pinches chinos pendejos

  21. WTF is wrong with you people. This commercial is so stupid. Made in China is just that. China has some outstanding products. I buy and sell their products and have no problems with the quality. You can buy cheap or buy quality. Walmart buys 1000′s of containers daily of “Made in China” products and sells the hell out of them so how can any of you horses asses say America has a problem with Chinese products. You make no sense at all. Oxymorons. Why are so many chinese people so insecure? So many comments about people saying this or that about China. So what! Big Deal! You country is a great country growing and adjusting with it’s people. I’m 60 and when I was in school China was call the “sleeping giant” and now it is awake. Be proud and forget the bullshit from the morons.

  22. I suddenly was remembered of the melamine – a product from china.

    • in conjunction with Fonterra, a dairy/milk company from New Zealand. Made with the world indeed.

      • Who had to go to through the New Zealand government to get anything done when the found out about the problem… because when their company went to the local government in China they just tried to cover it up! Anyway, Beijing finally got around to doing something about it once the precious Olympics were over :I

  23. it will take centuries for china to have good products, maybe never, what made china the factory of the world is cheap labor not design or innovation, thats the truth…if the workers here ask for more then western countries will go to an other place…is nothing special in china only the slavery….

    we still buy western designs thats the truth….nobody drives 100% chines cars nobody likes chines brands…..they don’t have the knowledge, education, system

    soon we move our factories to vietnam or india or other places…tale me 1 grade innovation from china the last 50 years……

    • This ads suddenly remind me of all the terrible things the chinese did…lead poisoning, drywall gas, baby milk poison, toxic sofas, pet food poison..

      they should just let them fade away from memory..

  24. Mate in Communist China !
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  25. The thing with “Made in China” is, China makes what the companies tell them too. If it’s a second rate product, it’s because that’s the design. They “higher” end products, they are made in China too, except the label is hidden better.

    I pick up a plastic drink bottle made in the USA and one made in China, i can’t tell the difference. The only difference is, one cost 1/3 less.

    Also, the volume of products coming out of China increase its likelihood of delivering a faulty product. If out of billions of products you have 10 faulty products, I consider that good. If your nation has 2 products for export, and you screw up on one, the ratio is pretty bad if you ask me…

  26. I think Made In China gets a bad rep no one really takes “ratio” into consideration. I’ve had a surge protector, made in china, that’s lasted for 15 years. Honestly, it really just depends on what you buy. If you buy from a 99 cent store, do you really expect quality? even if its made in usa? I think not.

    Go look at the electrical appliance company Haier, I’d buy that over any brand. Great products and wine coolers are top quality. I love mine.

    • Agreed. The issue here is that so many things are made in China. However, when you have missteps like tainted pet food and lead-contaminated products for children, you have a huge perception problem. The American media is pretty alarmist and the American public are ridiculously safety-conscious in the best of times. When legitimate mistakes like that occur, people will not forget quickly.

      Anyway, the real problem is not a Chinese inability to manufacture quality goods. Chinese companies do so on a huge scale all the time. The central issue is that Western (especially American) consumers are addicted to low prices. Everything turns into a race to the bottom and corners like quality control and ethics get cut to keep the price down. In most cases, you generally do get what you pay for (luxury items excepted).

      Also, vague undercurrents of anti-Chinese sentiments do exist, but I think they really have very very little effect on buying habits. Consumers will turn a blind eye to anything real or imagined for low prices.

      I’m just confused as to why people feel the need to buy so much shit.

      • that was a very well thought out reply and i totally agree with you. public perception is a huge problem but yet people still buy buy buy and then later complain complain complain. when you target low price products, you get low quality goods.

        when you buy high-end things, foreign labels are slapped on even though it was made in china. like i said before, the Chinese manufacture make products from designs provided by foreign companies.

        apple inc. gives china good designs, china makes good products. mattel wants to give china toy designs requiring cheap paint, china provides the cheap paint. the problem with china is business is business and there are no questions asked. but i’m pretty sure if the manufactures speak up, the business will be rerouted to other, more willing countries. it’s really a catch 22 and Chinese manufactures always get the short end of the stick.

        • In terms of reputation, Chinese manufacturers are in a bit of a Catch 22, but for the last 20ish years, the factory owners have been laughing all the way to the bank. Obviously the last year and a half hasn’t gone so well, but they aren’t the only ones in that boat.

          I think a weird aspect of America’s problem with Chinese manufacturing is the way that Americans view their own manufacturing sector.

          America still manufactures a greater value of goods than any other country be a far margin, but at the same time, they’re doing it with a lot less labor. Manufacturing jobs used to be the ticket to a comfortable middle-class life (worked for my grandparents). That’s obviously eroded away pretty badly, but people still want that life and have romanticized it to a certain extent.

          And the things that America manufactures now are not so much consumer goods (and are way too often weapons systems), so they buy all their nonsense from China and ask themselves why America can’t do it. But the problem has been around longer than China has been rising in manufacturing. It’s systemic and permanent and people seem unable to wrap their heads around it. They’d rather ignorantly blame others.

          I can sympathize. I sometimes wish I could have a blue collar job rather than sitting at a desk. (I also like blaming other people for my problems.) But since that just isn’t going to happen, I’ll start a fight club or begin rock climbing like the bourgeois douchebag that I am.

          • Again, I agree with you. American manufacture just isn’t what it use to be. Yet our system is still plagued by food scares that people just seem to forget.

            When American Manufacturing was in its prime, we had all sorts of problems, ranging from fake medicine to saw dust in orange juice. Compared to those days, I’d say China is not doing too shabby.

            We have food scares in the states about 2-3 times a year. How many times has e-coil in our foods come up in the news? How many of our own safety recalls have we had? At least our leaders report it right? Well, at least we think they report it all…

            China’s true weakness is failure to immediately act on issues, but then again…our own government didn’t immediately acted on our contaminated peanut butter…

          • China’s reaction time is definitely improving though. The response is often executions, which are not really my cup of tea, but they have started to become a lot more responsive.

            I think the best example is H1N1. Due to the bad experience they had with Bird Flu, they’ve really clamped down with H1N1. I think they’ve once again overdone it, but they couldn’t possibly be accused of not responding.

            But with manufactured goods and food products, you can really just see that the government isn’t equipped to handle the scale around here. Their FDA equivalent is understaffed and corrupt. Probably going to take some time to fix.

          • Yeah, that’s definitely true. I’m not here to blindly support China. There is definitely a lot of room to improve. They need to provide more funding in their health and safety system for the sake of product safety.

            While it would be cheaper for the Chinese government to use the FDA provided by the United States (I’m sure you’ve read the news); What kind of government doesn’t have it’s own fully funded Food and Drug administration? Civilian welfare is a must.

            It shouldn’t just stop at food, eventually they need to start cracking down on companies that cut corners. But even in “developed” countries, this is a major problem with this very problem. Maybe we’re just better at hiding it than the Chinese are?

            While execution of top executives from manufacturing is probably not the best way to go; it’s much better than what we had here in the states where top bank executives get away with screwing over millions of families, hardly be punished and even get handed a free TARP provided bonus on their way out of the door…honestly the “better” side is starting to get a little blurry…

          • I guess I would rather see some money go into government agencies that work to improve product safety than an ad campaign. Although I’m sure an ad campaign is much cheaper. I’m pretty sure that Taiwan used to have a made in Taiwan ad campaign back when it was a low cost manufacturing center.

  27. eh i went to one famous pc mall in Shanghai .
    i bought an electrical adaptator for my IBM laptop .
    three months after ,broken .
    I bought also a laptop web camera ,i plug it
    the image was tilted ,not vetical ,defect product .
    i bought two water tap in a local shop for my sink ,
    thre months after ,broken .
    and others items ,bike very fragile .
    Here the worker just think saving the face .
    want to look capable men .the product must work the first week client buy it .
    They don’t have the love of the items they built .
    they don’t have the love of good work .
    evrything is made quick ,bad ,i don’t care this product things ,only one things matter proudness saving face .

    their is a lake of engineer tecnical people .
    All young people think western people are rich because they speak english .
    then they all study only one think english .
    show non stop their perfect american accent .

    Japanese German French North Italian ,don’t care so much speaking perfect English .we still have strong accent.
    What we care about it’s being engineer or technical master ,knowing the modern technology .being a master of the modern .making good products .

    technology .electrical ,electronik ,mecanical …
    that comes first .

    for a young chinese only one thing matter it’s talking english ,showing your american accent .
    and the technology euuh what’s this things ,
    just let’s buy it in europe or america .

    china shenzhen electronics ,boss are taiwanese in fact .
    taiwanese company .

    We are rich because we built technology planes trains cars robots machinery that last decades .
    we don’t focus on making it cheap .
    not saving money while engineering something .
    use the material we need ,test it during months to check to be sure that it will last .

    because making a product that collapse after a few months ,kill the environment .
    ressources ,men that work years ,for a product that end in the garbage .

    i m anry it’s difficult to buy an item in china .
    And the worker or craftmen are so proud saving face ,and so not in love with the product they built construct .

    • Spend a little bit more and get a better quality. It will probably last longer. You get what you pay for. This is true no matter where it is made. At 60 I can tell you this is true.

  28. In the US the people (addicts) should collect all the Chinese products (opium) and burn it.

  29. Markets are built on VALUE not price or quality alone.

    I have some very good Chinese machinery.
    I have some very annoying german tools
    and vise versa.
    The timing of the Ad campaign is not the best.

  30. i m not totaly german but we live close to them and we were german in the past .
    the german are first exporter in the world .
    for technology .weel known .
    The chinese are exporter of clothes textile ,shoes and toys .well known .

    the machinery that produce it are swiss ,sweedish ,german .
    and the one that are chinese are in fact using one of this country patent .

    you go to a machinery fare ,their is no chinese machinery .no French machinery also .

    machinery is very important now a day ,even if it’s not trendy .

    the roewer car ,italy design other europe engineer office do it .

    it’s not that you can’t do it .
    it’s just you don’t have love for technology ,for building a good train locomotive that last 30 years .
    no enough young people interested in that .

    your young people want to show their amarican accent and talking during hour about their buisiness mba abroad in a snobish way .see it often .
    don’t want to be in the tschnology ,building well made cars trains plane machinery construction equipement .

    the passion of an electrical machanical electronic object ,never see that here .

    just we buy the usa or europe technology .
    produce cheap with our numerous labour ,
    textile shoes toys ,
    and sell it abroad .

    even the companies here can’t make a brand name .
    their is no brand of chinese product .or few few .
    no love for the product you do .
    first shoes producer in the world .
    but you don’t have even a brand .

    we like to have a company that exists for 40 years , and don’t cheatet the client , respect the client , insure him the shoes sole and color will last .
    always offer him the new fashion design ,engineer the running shoes with computers softwear ,and so on .
    a brand .

    chinese are super friendly .
    traveling here it’s delicious ,some mountains first class .
    but the products on sale often bu xing .

  31. That’s why all my computer parts are made in taiwan! :) I love my samsung korean made monitor. I love my honda made in japan. I love my hong kong clothing. The only thing I love made in china is my parents. ROFL. It’s true chinese made products suck!

  32. The only universal truth is that anyone who makes sweeping statements on the basis of nationality is … mentally challenged. Not all China made products are bad, in the same way that not all Japanese/German/French products are good.

    Having said that, in my corner of the world there is a popular perception that China branded products tend to be of shoddy/lesser quality. Not because of any deficiency in the makers but rather the lack of government control and supervision over quality and safety in China (eg the milk scandal). This unfortunately encourages manufacturers to try to maximise their profits by ignoring quality and safety issues.

    • you speak snobish wants to look a complex mind ,
      but you are lost in what you are saying .
      No logic in your explaination .just a vocabulary list of snobish words , one after another ,
      to pretend you know .
      but you don’t understand .
      they are nation characteristics fancy snobish .
      japanese german are the first world exporter .
      of complicated sophisticated equipments .
      China produce large quantity ,but it’s most simple objects .textile ,shoes ,toys ,house items …
      less engineer less know how .
      But at the same time what they produce is very usefull for other countries population .
      Nations are completely diffrent .
      but they don’t lauch brands , brands they could do it ,not copying others brands ,do their own style ,perfect .
      that will help to make quality product .
      you understand snobisch mixed up.

    • I think jason (ABC) and karl forgot who made the Lexus cars (luxury cars in case they didn’t know) spontaneously accelerate and take lives. Sorry boys, not made in China. One mistake made Toyota cars look pretty bad but yet amazingly…there is no bandwagon to jump and hate all Japanese products? You have to take things case by case bases. Judge the company, not the location.

  33. In china their is no brands
    their is no chinese supermarket chain or barely ngs
    their is no do it yourself chain like b&Q
    it’s more like familiy shops ,family structures .
    Not often private associates .my opinion .
    or we lauch 10000 products ,and after we stop
    we make something else .
    not brand in the future oriented .
    not like 10 rich associates building a brand wanted to built a long term relation with long term client .

    some product are super .
    The problem is you want to buy a water tap .
    you have to buy three to find the good one .
    the two first one broken within 3 months .

    and that’s waste our planet ressouces when you built products that end up in the garbage every six months instead of for years .

    eh you have other parts that i envy .
    our girls are not feminie like yours .
    your contry is so safe at night .our suburb are not at all .
    and we have a problem more than ten percent foreigners .

  34. You guys heard of the luxury brand Ports 1961? Its on 5th ave in NYC and also on Bloor St.W in Toronto where I live. Apparently it’s Chinese designed and made and has its stores alongside Gucci and Prada. Celebrities wear it too.

    • Ports 1961 is so overpriced. Chinese girls are used to paying through the nose for the most random labels (that even they have never heard of before). They’ll even admit to you that the quality is bad and the clothes don’t last but the style is quite good. Much more progressive and dynamic styles than from american designers…

  35. China is good at manufacturing the low-end ‘nuts and bolts’ or cheap, easily-replaceable, consumable products. It does not, or cannot, manufacture its own technology, for example, unless done under foreign license.

    Who would trust a Chinese-made product in their home after so many scandals? Foreign-made products, with trusted brand-names, will continue to out-sell any Chinese-made product in a global market.

    Just look at the (honest) truth about foreign companies in China. We’re here taking advantage of cheap labour, or “screwdrivers” as factory workers are more affectionately known.

    All the component parts are manufactured in the home country, shipped here for the “screwdrivers” to assemble ready for export. Nothing more.

    Why? Because the home country is going to produce parts with superior standards of quality, and more importantly, carry a “Made in [country's name]” mark as trust and assurance of that quality (even if it’s assembled in China by screwdriver workers.)

    It will take decades before China is able to produce products of this calibre. China is just a factory employing assemblers.

    OK, it provides jobs for people, but it doesn’t exactly require a university education to operate factory machinery or work a screwdriver. Ask any foreign factory/plant manager — and believe me I have — and they will all tell you that cheap labour and low transport & export costs are their only consideration.

    Most foreign factories do not provide ‘engineers’ with training/education programs. Apart from the time and cost required, it’s completely unnecessary. Just turn-up to your first day at work, spend a day watching ‘how it’s done,’ then start ‘assembling!’

    • Hmm, what about the computer brand Lenovo? It is a Chinese brand.

      • The Lenovo laptops used to be the IBM ThinkPad. IBM sold their laptop business to Lenovo Years ago.

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ThinkPad

        • lenovo does more than make computers.

          • -1 for stating a fact.. cool,
            so on chinasmack we are only allowed to state opinions backed up by opinions?

          • “-1 for stating a fact.. cool,
            so on chinasmack we are only allowed to state opinions backed up by opinions?”

            Butt hurt already? Worried that it will affect your GPA. Here let me give you a +1 so you don’t go crying to your mama. Lenovo makes more then computers. Fine. But how does that add to or refute the two earlier statements your were REPLYING to?

            zaki – Lenovo COMPUTERS are good and they are a Chinese brand.

            goodness – Their laptops are actually an American product line that was sold to a Chinese company. You can’t give the Chinese all of the credit.

            akbar lo – They do other things too. They do other things too.

            Fine. Not to mention irrelevant.

  36. This ad addresses perception. It will not change minds already made up, but it may give the undecided useful insight.
    A game company I write for, Catalyst Game Labs, (http://catalystgamelabs.com/) has its products manufactured and printed in China. This makes business sense because they’re able to get good quality at good prices. However there is a persistent perception in America that Chinese manufacturing is all sweat shops, and this bothers some people.
    At GenCon (http://www.gencon.com/2010/indy/default.aspx) in Indianapolis last August an irate attendee confronted Catalyst’s game developer, demanding to know how he could justify “supporting a slave economy opposed to America.” Rational responses had no effect and people were stopping to listen.
    I rescued my boss by pulling the vociferous critic aside, swearing him to secrecy and then telling him sotto voce we’d arranged with our distributor to refugee a worker’s family out with each shipment of games. He went away evidently mollified. (Haven’t seen anything about this on the web, so he either honored his oath or figured out later I was lying.)
    This “Made in China” ad will do nothing to influence jingoists like the man at GenCon, but it may give the folks who stopped to listen something to think about.

  37. Hey Guys,
    I just wanted to say, that I actually liked the commercial and I find it very true. It is a fact that there is a certain conception at the rest of the world regarding the Chinese products. Right or Wrong, I will not judge. It is also a fact that China is in a process to change this perception because at the end of the day you deserve it. As someone that works for a Chinese company at the other end of the world I have to say that things are changing.. Slowly but, they are changing.. The perception of the rest of the world is changing and you are changing with them..It’s a long process and it needs patience so keep up the good work and have a positive spirit.. it will pay up..

  38. To make our product in west europe we have a large number of qualified people technicians engineer .We have numerous technology school colleges .at a large scale .Technicians Engineers Automatisation electricity mechanical electronic .It’s a good social status by us .Most of them will have a very good salary ,some travel often abroad for their job ,speak several languages .They will never be unemployed ,many companied recruit them .By us ,we look down ,criticize sharply the defect products .Our companies product some ,we just say this item that’s a “shit” .We tell each other often not to buy this one this brand .So the company get bankrupt .We really think ,it’s a waste of time it’s a waste or row material ,this item shouldn’t exist ,you can’t use it or only two weeks ,better not produce it .

  39. I saw the commercial when it first aired on CNN. My first reaction was “Nobody’s gonna believe this”. In fact I think it made things worse.

    The commercial was very well made, that wasn’t the problem. The problem is that Americans aren’t ready to be convinced about the quality of Chinese products. NO commercial could have done the job. I think it made things worse because it just made people think about this issue again and, inevitably, they thought about it in a negative way.

    To improve the image of Chinese products abroad, I think the Chinese government should do NOTHING, until its resolved other issues with the US.

  40. Ad is very nice and balanced. It just reminds people that they use quality products made in China.

    It is matter of personal choice. You can’t buy LV bag for 5$ and expect to last 50 years.

    First time “made in …” was used in UK to denotes low quality products – from Germany! Japanese products were considered low quality.

    My first laptop (Acer) was piece of crap, as I pay 400$ for it. If I gave 100$, laptop would be far much better. The crappiest product I ever bought in China was Philips (Made in Netherlands) blender. Seller tried to convince me to buy Chinese one, but I opted for Dutch one.

  41. Fake eggs, exploding tires, poisoned toothpaste, fake prescription drugs, copys of cars and fake purses.

    Communism really is good for… making cheap immitations of things that were made in the capitalist West. Stop polluting the USA with your garbage.

    Way to go! Made in China=fake garbage.

    [Note from Fauna: Comments under different names (GO CAPITALISM, lol/LOL, Capitalist Pig, COMMUNISM SUCKS, Counterfeit Eggs, Capitalism Rocks Communism Sucks, & BRING HER TO JUSTICE).]

  42. Over here in the USA, Made in China is a joke. The problem is that people keep buying things made in China, and then complain when they get poisoned by counterfeit toothpaste or poisoned toys. That commercial about made in China being good is total propaganda. Even Jackie Chan said he wouldn’t even buy a TV made in China.

    [Note from Fauna: Comments under different names (GO CAPITALISM, lol/LOL, Capitalist Pig, COMMUNISM SUCKS, Counterfeit Eggs, Capitalism Rocks Communism Sucks, & BRING HER TO JUSTICE).]

  43. Here’s some of the fantastic products China makes for the world, and for themselves:

    http://www.china-recalls.com/
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T55tz4qwFMo
    http://www.peta.org/feat/ChineseFurFarms/
    gemssty.com/2006/10/29/top-10-copycat-cars/

    Keep up the fine work of making counterfeit and dangerous goods in China, and then letting the state run media brainwash you into believing that you’re doing well. CCP, CCTV, and MADE IN CHINA can kiss my American ass. I avoid products from China.

    “Made in USA” “Made in Italy” “Made in New Zealand” “Made in Japan” and “Made in Korea” don’t need advertizing campaigns to whitewash over dangerous and fake products. One more example of how communism doesn’t work, except to brainwash the poor people who live in the communist country.

    No one outside of China would ever believe that commercial. If you live in China, tell the CCP to stick it up their ass. You’re the ones suffering for living in a totalitarian society, working in slave shops to make things that the fat cat capitalists in YOUR country profit from.

    [Note from Fauna: Comments under different names (GO CAPITALISM, lol/LOL, Capitalist Pig, COMMUNISM SUCKS, Counterfeit Eggs, Capitalism Rocks Communism Sucks, & BRING HER TO JUSTICE).]

  44. The quality depends a lot on the factory owner and also how much the overseas buyer cares about quality. There are a lot of bad factories with no quality control but also some fantastic factories. We partner with a Chinese factory, we chose them because they actually make better quality product than factories we tried in other countries. This debate is often too simplistic.

  45. It seems to me like the xenophobia of the American reaction to Chinese goods is just as true as the need for Chinese corporations to regulate themselves more ethically. I have no problem with cheap ‘made in China’ knickknacks, neither do I think that it’s the only thing that comes out of China. Still, I think the tension that has caused such a great reaction in US news is the loss of domestic jobs due to free trade regulations that don’t really do anyone much good. Still, China is a developing country with a hunger for growth, a vast unregulated work force and a need for infrastructure in some places. One can only hope that the majority of the people regulating these corporations will not overlook something that may seem harmless at the time in order to make a profit. Safety rules are rules for a reason, even if you’re a CEO. A company is a company, and should have a certain amount of individual responsibility.

  46. you dont get the fact of chinese factories.
    Why we dont make good staff?It is a long story.
    There are two kinds of factories :owned by ccp,owned by private.In china ,the differences between them is out of your guess.
    In state-operated fac ,as some mentioned above,people have no love of the job they do,care not what they make ,why? it will do you no good .It is much more important to flattery your immediate boss who is often a ccp.Even you are technically NO.1,you will live in endless insults if you dont suck this incapable bastards’s ass. My grandpa,a math teacher in a college,he is admired most by student,but he end up with a associate professor while people weaker goes to professor.
    Then pravate fac,they are also can be divided into 2: magnate’s and mud feet’s.If you are a mud feet and you open an fac , ,you are the lowest of the food chain ,before you worked days and nights and finally gain enough economic force under the bloodsucking “interested division ” to pertect you ,you are as weak as an egg when collide with the 1st and 2cd,no law can protect you.My mother used to own an Kindergarten, everytime some interested division come to check(health, safty,ect…),she must not only make sure things are done and but also give benifit to them,then one day an Real Estate Company want the place where my mother’s kindergarten lies,they aont want to pay the sum the law counts,so they just build walls around it , lock it in the night and send gangsters to smash things.finally all those our familly put in it goes in vain and we still owe an amount of money…it is not a fac but the rules are the same.
    If you can not be sure what will happen to you tomorrow,why not grab money as fast as you can?? We just have no choice,there are lots of similar things.
    Making good brand need time ,money,and hardworking,but you might not be able to live that long…
    A kind of sick humer .isnt it?But you dont see what we have paid for it
    So how,can you “merciful” laowai,talk volubly with animated gestures about how we cant make quality stuffs?
    In the city i live ,those ipod works get about 300$ a month ,for most of the profit are already taken away even before an ipod is made by the name of authorize.
    We work much hard than you ,gain much less than you ,arent we have more right to complain?But we would not ,for it is of no use.Why the chinese making is cheap?because our sweat is cheap.When they use price superiority to smash others away,do you really think we just born with a heart of this?If our sweat isnt that cheap,you will have to pay more,work more,earn less and complain less.
    you may criticize our product’s quality ,because a lot of them are really not good.
    But think again before you criticize my people.
    The world is always unfair ,but dont take it for granted.

  47. Low quality and cheap…MADE IN CHINA

  48. All my stuff is made in China and its pretty good… its not always about having the best, sometimes is about having the best price to performance ratio. That and most people buy new things every 2 years, so you don’t need something that is going to last more than 3.

  49. I remember in shop class when I was 12 they were teaching Us this shit. They told us Mind you this was in the nineties, 1 year warranties started. If you want quality tools they come from Germany, America, and sometime Taiwan. If you want cheap Mexico or CHINA. If you want quality electronics like durable goods. Japan was killer and USA was still top tier. Never buy korea or chinese products. They only seem to last 1 year and no one could find parts to repair them. But unfortunately demand and supply trumps quality. What greedy CEO could pass up slave labor, mass production and fast output?

    Now we have over priced chinese trash VS. Pricey American trash. Its the battle of whose junk will make it the junk yard first.

  50. I believe there are multiple factors contributing to China’s poor reputation in quality of their products, of which some is the fault of China and some factors can be attributed to foreign companies.

    China’s culture and background.
    Because of China’s recent history of being a poor, mainly agricultural rural society, cheap and abundant labor becomes so readily available that the migrant workers are all willingly to work for peanuts. An earlier poster mentioned that when you pay peanuts, you get monkeys, and with monkeys, you get monkey-business. This is certainly true, because the Chinese worker working long hours in poor conditions does not have the motivation or pride in quality products. In addition, during the reform, the establishment of factory workers for State Owned Enterprises (SOE) means that the SOE does not compete with the private industry, so quality was not an issue since they monopolized the local market and were the only players. The workers (whether they were efficient or made quality products were assured an income from cradle to crave. While that is not so much the case in this competitive global economy, this cultural of mediocrity was prevalent several generations.

    The Chinese are also know to be shrewd businessmen who engage in mercantilest practices. They cut corners to save costs whenever possible. Examples are so numerous to name such as the glycerin in toothpastes (cheaper substitute to glycol) , melamine in the dairy (to fool health inspectors), lead based paint in toys, sulphur in drywall, cheaper adhesive for the rubber tires, etc. While it may be the case that so of the products (such as toys) being manufactured for foreign firms were according to specifications (meaning it was a faulty design), the majority of these other products are developed by Chinese manufacturers and sold abroad as cheaper generic alternatives to the foreign name-brand. Also, with the one-party rule system, corruption, bribery and lax rules run amok with no checks and balances in place. The local official, pressured to produce a high GDP for his/her province does not enforce the high standards required(whether it be labor conditions or environmental regulations) in an effort to encourage manufacturing bases (less regulations=cheaper operations for the factory owners). We see and hear about this in regards to how bad the environmental degradation has become in some areas (where the incidents of local protest have increased dramatically) and protests and shut-downs of months and months of unpaid salaries. One instance of this relationship building between local government officials and corporations had severe consequences in the case of the shoddy school construction in the Sichuan earthquakes. However, to date, no government officials have been punished for the outcome.

    What I also do not understand but my in-laws living in Beijing can attest to me is that the Chinese usually export their best products to other nations while the crappiest products are sold to their citizens. This runs contrary to most countries. In Japan, the best make-up is used by the Japanese women while the second-rate products are sold to the Chinese. Also true of their food products and see saw it in the melamine-taunted milk cases.

    Their educational system also is a factor. Because of their competitive nature of their schools, their educational focus is on memorization and techniques to master the national college-entrance exams. Their students are seldom encouraged to be creative and explore new things as are students in the Western world. This has been a burden on their ability to develop and create their own national brands which are recognized by the world community. There is no Chinese version of Coca-Cola, or Nike, or McDonald’s and it will take maybe a generation before these are developed. Their most famous national brand developed by themselves is appliance maker Haier. The Chinese was hoping that national brands would be established after requiring foreign companies doing business in China to set-up joint venture and share the know-how with their Chinese counterparts. However, the Chinese, with their abundant cash is finding out that it is much easier to simple buy foreign companies with brand identity rather than developing their own. Lenovo is a another example of this (buying the former PC business from IBM). Hummer and Volvo are falling into this category. Finally, the Chinese really needs to be more serious about enforcing intellectual property laws. Allowing cheap knock-offs of Gucci purses, fake IPODs, pirated movies and software, and blatantly stealing the car designs of foreign automakers does not bod well for your reputation. Go to YouTube and type in Chinese cars designs vs. foreign cars are you can see how eerily similar the designs are.

    Role of Foreign Companies (i.e. American Companies)
    Foreign companies, in their rush to maximize profits with China’s cheap labor and hopes of China’s huge market potential. This exploitation of the typical Chinese worker was a penny wise, pound-foolish double win. It was great for the US consumer feasting on the cheap Chinese goods and for the company shareholders, whose stock value shot up after record company profits. However, it was also a long-term double loss for the Americans. The loss of manufacturing in this country and the technical know-how and R&D which gives us the advantage of innovation transfered into the hands of the Chinese. I doubt that any of these manufacturing jobs will ever return to the US, which are not limited to labor intensive, low-value industries but also include high-tech fields. Bikes (Made in Taiwan), clothing (Made in Vietnam), software (Made in India), electronics such as LED/LCD panels (Made in China), computers (Made in China), pharmaceuticals (starting to be more made in China and India), airplane components (starting to be more made in China), and now China is leading in the green-technology sector (solar panels and wind turbines). Short-sightedness for instant profit, that’s the American way.

  51. I hate products made in China and I’ve been an Exporter here for years.

    The Truth of the matter is the only reason that companies purchase Chinese made goods is because your government treats you like slaves so you make less money and products costs less to produce.

  52. The local Haier office here even put this on their signboard: “German Technology”. They’re too wary to put anything that point out that Haier is a Chinese brand.

  53. Unforunately, consumer-based Chinese brands would fail overseas because consumers (especially American ones) are trying to refrain from buying anything Chinese. The Chinese know this. Americans can stomach buying something made in China (designed in America), but to buy something from a pure Chinese company is a big no no to many Americans. On the other hand, international Chinese companies that don’t have to deal with the general public are very successful because corporations do everything on a cost-benefit analysis and are run by cunning men who could care less about country of origin.

    That’s why high-tech Chinese telecom companies, computer OEM part companies, weapons companies, and green energy companies are some of the most successful in the world- they don’t have to deal with a xenophobic Western public. They are just as innovative and capable, while being a heck of a lot cheaper.

  54. well,
    most chinese companies are simply manufacturers. They build according to blueprint, not add extra shingles to something someone else designed and contracted you to build.

    It’s like being contracted for steel plates, and you went and took you own liberty of “improving” it… and giving them titanium plates… ea they wanted STEEL for a reason.

  55. english is not my mother tongue.
    don’t understand all your post .
    In shanghai their is a lot of pretty feminie girls .
    ok they are girl until 28 years old ,after they think they are old married women ,no need of girl clothes and make up any more .
    no one pretty 40 th women that play with lovers sometimes .what’s a pitty .
    sodomite ,asians girls don’t like it ,even don’t know a lot about it .
    In europe the girl dress so bad ,so many of our fat ass girls wear ugly casual shit clothes .
    they don’t dare to show their leg any more or just once a week .
    in china little skirt short trousers ,show belly ,delicious .

  56. You are so correct. Here in Vancouver Canada their is a huge xenophobic reaction to made in China products. Everyone speaks like its crap and that they will never buy anything made in China but they never stop buying it. You will find that the xenophobic western public is rather stupid and talks alot of crap but in the end is quite weak to his need for consumer goods.

  57. 1 – I thought the EU was already pretty protectionist (at least compared to the US) due to strong unions. Could one of you Europeans correct me if I’m wrong.

    2 – Actually, I can’t see a rise in protectionism being initiated by the US due to the fact that China holds about 798 billions dollars of US debt. Also I think that the threat of protectionism is what motivates China to buy more US debt. Chicken meet egg. Egg meet Chicken.

    3 – I was always told that part of the reason China invests/subsidies so much yet don’t produce much profit is because some indigenous Chinese companies likes to “dump” product. They will sell something for less money then it takes to make it (dump it) just so they can undercut any competitor. Cutting off your nose to spite your face might be more appealing if you knew that at the end of the day, you would be the last man standing.

    4 – King Tubby I’ve never been to mainland China but it sounds like your have. Do you know what the mood of the hourly workers is like over there right now? Or just the workers general. Anxiety? Optimism?

    Frankly, I think that as long as they don’t try to run the ad during a big event like the SuperBowl, it will just be a blip on the radar and some more YouTube fodder.

  58. Ooooh okay, I understand.

    You’re in China for the girls, for some kind of sexual tourism. I guess that if you are talking about European girls that way (and you are wrong about them), it’s because you could not date one. So you went to Asia.

    What a pity.

  59. 1) No, the EU is a member of the WTO just like the US is, and has eliminated most trade barriers between its member states. As for US protectionism, remember tariffs on steel, tires etc. as well as ‘buy American’ campaigns and ceaseless lobbying against foreign firms by US companies like Boeing. The image Americans have of America as some kind of bastion of free trade is largely myth.

    2)More to the point, the US cannot borrow money from China if China has no dollars to lend them.

    3)WTO cases on dumping have all come up short.

    4)When I was last in China people all seemed very optimistic.

  60. you funny ,you don’t know who i m.
    i didn’t date one foreigner girl but 220 within 10 years ,i m smart ,people told me .
    you misunderstand my post .
    i answered xmcx post who spoke about sex sodomite .
    he spoke first about it .
    it’s true ,travel in us germany france .the girls wear casual ugly clothes too often .ugly men clothes .they are lazzy at wearing clothes in this countries
    i praise the shanghai girl .in the summer ,in the disco ,they are wonderfull feminine ,slim .
    yeh but forget it they only think about husband money .lazzy for making their own working carrier
    i don’t do sexual tourism ,never will .
    you are prostitue customer ,millions of prostitutes here .
    and fuckin young tout waidi migrant people that non stop harass you attack you non stop in nanjing lu ,offering you that, harassing you .as a foreigner i can’t walk in nanjing lu any more .you imagine .
    your police should handcuff all this copy and massage sex seller this tout 300 in nanking lu .you sell sex tourism . and some of your girls seem to enjoy this job. so many . they don’t look in pain suffering . very happy smilling behind their window shop .
    a girl need to know 10 boysfrends before marriage .
    to be a real grown up adult .
    be more interested in girl before marriage .play with them ,that makes grow up boys and girls .
    a men should have had 10 girls before he married .
    that’s the only one way to know the sly snake girls .

  61. Do you really think that’s the reason people are so skeptical of Chinese products? Because the Chinese manufacturers adhere too much to the blue print?

    “Melamine and a related chemical, cyanuric acid, had been added to grain products in China to FRAUDULENTLY INCREASE their apparent protein content, making them appear to be gluten” – USA today second to last paragraph.
    *Caps are mine.

    http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/food/2008-09-11-tainted-formula_N.htm

    Your second statement is total bs. It’s more like a bartender waters down his drinks with a garden hose then hope the customers don’t notice.

  62. The problem with the Chinese is not their culture, but their economic system. The cruelty you talk about is a effect from the Purest form of Capitalism.

  63. Hogwash. There was also plenty of cruelty in old non-capitalist China. The paying off of the police. Are you saying that only started when China embraced capitalism? Why can’t you buy a slave in your home town? Because it is a cultural taboo. A nations cultural values and mores shape everything including their economy.

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