Han Han: ‘Confucius’ Failure Good For Chinese Cinema

Han Han Chinese bloggerHan Han is a famous post-80s generation professional race-car driver and best-selling author. He is also one of China’s most popular Chinese bloggers, and my own favorite.  — Fauna

From Han Han’s blog:

Thank You, Confucius

I went to the movie theater today. Originally I wanted to see 14 Blades, but perhaps I’ve already lost all my interest in domestic historical epics, so I bought a ticket for the Korean film Mother, then went home. But I was happy to discover that Confucius was already off the screens. This implies that, from a commercial standpoint, the film has completely failed.

Hu Wen Chinese movie director

Confucius director Hu Mei

Confucius‘s failure was inevitable, from its forcing Avatar off the screen to its director’s [outspoken speech] — “Avatar has nothing good except special effects”, “[it is just] a group of elves flying around”, “Of course (I will become the first female director to surpass 100 million RMB in the box office), is there any doubt?”, [In response to a critic saying the historical Zi Lu and Nan Zi didn't die the way they died in the movie:] “This guy really doesn’t understand movies, he’s an expert, more like a fake expert, as soon as he watches movies he’s a layman, there’s no need for him to go around fishing for compliments and praise”, “Chinese people all want to see Confucius“, “I trust everyone will make the correct choice” — to the screenwriter’s rejection of all criticism (actually, the screenwriter’s failure is the film’s biggest failure), to the filmmakers claiming the criticism was because another domestic film was spending money trying to frame Confucius, to the lies about box office results, and finally, to the filmmakers saying that all the audience members who questioned the movie are very disrespectful towards the ancient sages, don’t respect Chinese traditional culture, and are immoral cheats and bullies causing trouble. This is probably the worst quality, most disrespectful, biggest PR failing, least resembling Confucianist group of performers [and filmmakers] in the history of New China. This group of people, each harboring their own personal ambitions, when put together created Confucius; perhaps their greatest understanding of Confucius is wanting to help the ruling class by teaching the people. In actuality, they are also doing this.

When criticizing this film before, I did my best to avoid criticizing Confucius the person; I thought that he just didn’t make his point clearly, that he was a person who spoke even less clearly than Hamlet. It’s just that the film itself, aside from the actor’s passable performances, is a complete mess. If this kind of film was successful, it would definitely lead to a surge of [films like] Lao Zi [famous Daoist philosopher], Zhuang Zi [another early Daoist philosopher], Mencius [another Confucian philosopher], Mo Zi [founder of the school of Mohism], and these movies would certainly be quite boring, use up a lot of resources, and would be a great step backward in the development of Chinese cinema.

The failure of Confucius is triumphant news for Chinese cinema, and perhaps a turning point in Chinese film-making. Thank you, people who made Confucius!

Movies should use imagination to create things that reflect people’s ideals, but China’s films mostly reflect the government’s ideals. Of course, if one day the two become the same, then not only will [Chinese] films be successful but the government will be successful as well. Perhaps it’s that movies on ancient topics with traditional meaning are politically safer, but I’m already fed up with them.

Confucius movie posterThere has never been a country that likes making movies about things that came before the country existed the way the People’s Republic of China does. There has never been a country with movies like ours, where as soon as you hear the title without even watching the film you can tell the fate of the protagonist in the end. [Historical] Epics make up only a small part of classic films. Moreover, the only historical epics I’ve seen that are classics are about humanity fighting for freedom and revolting against fate. I have never seen a historical epic about resolutely assisting the ruler, educating the people, and abandoning girls become a classic epic. [Always] returning to ancient times is the largest problem with Chinese film.

As American and European commercial films get increasingly literate, our domestic films, which are still in the process of excavating ancient tombs, can’t possibly compete. The only way out for Chinese films in the future is to use emotions, and use literate and excellent domestic artistic films to oppose international blockbusters.

Comments from Han Han’s blog:

新浪网友:

Han Han, you are the hope of a future free China…

中国足球的出路在哪里:

So where is the way out for the Chinese football [soccer] team?

新浪网友:

Han Han, you must take care of yourself, China needs you.

新浪网友:

The idiots brainwashed by spokespeople to oppose Japan and America,
The fifty cent dogs who sell their conscience for fifty cents,
They are all targets that Han Han must awaken and save,
Go Han Han!

新浪网友:

Some people can’t say what their problem with Han Han is, they only can say that he always criticizes and rarely praises.
But why don’t these people go think, in our country, twenty four hours a day, three hundred and sixty five days a year, aren’t there enough people singing praises?
In this army of praisers, one less Han Han [amongst them] is one more clean soul for our nation.

2080后:

Han Han, you’re being very considerate these days, in many posts you are pointing out problems, please come again and resolve some problems, that would be very good, very good.

新浪网友:

The reincarnation of Lu Xun

新浪网友:

There are three kinds of people who oppose Han Han. One kind is the people who don’t understand Han Han because of their own IQ. Another kinds is the people who intentionally don’t understand Han Han’s words. The third kind is martians.

Chow Yun Fat on set of Confucius reading script

Han Han isn’t the only one who didn’t like Confucius.

Translated by C. Custer, editor of ChinaGeeks.

“I believe everyone will make the correct choice.” chinaSMACK personals.

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  1. Going to watch the movie,

    will report later

  2. “Avatar has nothing good except special effects”, “[it is just] a group of elves flying around”

    She’s right about that – story sucked, but the special effects was worth the price of admission.

    • ok, whatever you say “potatoe” head hahaha

    • true, the night elf player used cheats so that natural character starts to attack humans. thus won a surprising victor despite the destruction of world tree.

    • No the story doesn’t suck. It’s just that you can’t see the obvious metaphors in the movie.

      • no no, the story does suck. and the obvious metaphors are so obvious that watching the film is like being beaten over the head with a giant obvious metaphor stick.

        but damn it is pretty tho.

        • But why do films have to be obscure? What’s wrong with a film that has obvious metaphors and lots of them? That’s exactly what the moralistic fairy tales of old did, and I really feel that’s what Cameron was going for. No “surprise twists”, no obscure and “arty” confusing elements – just a solid, simple, effective story. How many movies that many people think of as classics basically boil down to good vs evil, just like Avatar? Hundreds. Beautiful, yes; good story, yes. Good movie – definitely.

  3. If they are making a film about Lao Zi then 劉兆銘 (Lau Siu Ming) should definitely get the roll!

    “all the audience members who questioned the movie are very disrespectful towards the ancient sages, don’t respect Chinese traditional culture, and are immoral cheats and bullies causing trouble.” WTF?!?

  4. Han Han always seems like a self-absorbed douchenozzle to me, but that was a really good post.

    He hit the nail on the head, Chinese movies have to be made with the broadest possible appeal. People like high budget historical epics with predictable storylines, and that’s what they get. It’s as if every movie that came out in America was directed by Michael Bay. I think Taiwan and HK put out some great movies specifically because they don’t have to pander to the lowest common denominator.

    • Alikese, you said, “He hit the nail on the head, Chinese movies have to be made with the broadest possible appeal. People like high budget historical epics with predictable storylines, and that’s what they get.”

      Yet you have actually missed the point. Han Han’s point was that Chinese movies are not being made with the broadest possible appeal because movies are made to communicate messages that the Party finds palatable or attractive. These movies features government-friendly ideals that are not in line with the ideals of the public.

      For the party, recent current crop of movie titles is attractive. Confucius celebrates loyalty to the ruler, while the historical war and palace epics romanticise a glorious, although somewhat tragic, past.

      Hence Han Han’s comment that “There has never been a country that likes making movies about things that came before the country existed the way the People’s Republic of China does.”

      This very perceptive, and it is a point of view that many Chinese have been slow to understand. The CCP USES the past to justify its actions in the present and build expectations of the population for a glorious future. After all, “New China” is only 60 years old, and it has a very poor base of attractive ideology on which to draw.

      This could change if Chinese were encouraged to discuss and think up creative solutions for the country’s political and social ills. Avatar had a really simple storyline. I would say it was a bit too simple. But it brought up issues that correspond to current anxieties of the masses (environmental degradation, excess corporatism, etc). So many people are willing to set aside the simplicity of the story and praise the innovative special effects. The movie is a social success.

      From what I hear, Confucius is lovely to look at, but the storyline is poorly put together and is not in line with the concerns of the masses. It is a social failure.

      This is why the Snail House series was so popular. It dealt with problems that many modern Chinese can identify with and encouraged discussion of a real social ill. From discussion comes pressure for reform. Therefore, such discussion is unpalatable for the Party.

  5. is that how film directors handle critiques now, sounding like a drunken bully on a slur?

    han han is right about chinese movies. you see one film, you’ve seen it all. and yes, they all die in the end, sacrificing themselves for their country, the neighbor’s dog, or a book like in this case. the real confucius would come back from the death and slap them silly, if he’d seen what they’ve done with his legacy.

  6. So “or you like the movie or you are a traitor and a piece of shit!!!”.

    um, great.

  7. I think what Han Han is missing is that this failure of a movie is actually a loving tribute to the real Confucius. Just think about it for a second. Confucius himself was a failure! He failed to get noticed in Lu and had to hit the road like one of today’s Chinese exchange student; but instead of LV bags all he got was rejection. He wanted to become a powerful official and drive around in the Zhou dynasty version of the infamous White Bugatti Veyron (a red cart with four functioning wheels) but he failed to find anyone willing to listen to him when he discussed the importance of aligning your mat correctly before kneeling down. And thus he created the great precedent that those who fail at life become teachers.

    And now this director has created a movie full of historical inaccuracies, a film that misrepresents Confucius as a militarist. Why, he would be spinning in his grave it had not already been dug up and desecrated by Red Guards on holiday! But this epic failure is actually an homage to the man.

    • I think Confucius did have a red cart with 4 functioning wheels, he did married into wealth.

      • Agreed. Confucius managed to get nowhere in life, and nowhere near where he actually wanted to get. It’s thus surprising that his ideology managed to grasp China as it did.

      • not only that, some of his student (such as 子贡) are filthy rich. As for ideology, legalism was too popular at the time. Even when the country did adopt Confucianism, people are are only using it as a facade for legalism.

  8. I think it’s just an attempt at nation-building. You have to make people believe in a common history and culture before you can make them willing participants of a nation. The Cultural Revolution was all about erasing the past, and it turned out that erasing the past meant erasing Chinese identity, and thus the very thing that holds China together. So now the government officials are trying to restore that link, to restore the heritage that they themselves destroyed.

    • “So now the government officials are trying to restore that link . . .”

      Except that, like all dictatorships, they have edited it to suit their needs, but have done so so vigorously as to remove all meaning.

  9. Further, I’m not sure I’m comfortable with Han Han’s conclusion about what films should be. It just seems such an imitation of Western trends. The fact that the Chinese today are still “this and this should be like this, because that’s what I’ve seen from respected sources [like the West]” proves that Confucius was right all along. The mentality remains that of followers, not leaders. If Chinese cinema is to truly thrive, it must find its own way, not copy the way things are done in the West.

    • Korean cinema is amongst the best in the world.

      No need to look to the West for inspiration..

      • Recently korea has produced some of the best movies from Asia. Oldboy and The Host are actually better than 99% of the movies out there.

        That said, in Asia at least Korea entertainment is not known for its movies but for its cheesy as hell long running fail dramas.

    • I agree – Chinese cinema should find its own aesthetic. Most Chinese films are plodding, the acting is completely wooden, the dialogue is unlike anything anyone would ever so, so yeah – epic or not, Chinese films are shit. Watch Zulu or Lawrence of Arabia if you want to see how to make an epic (or Doctor Zhivago). The characters are real.

      • http://buzz.youku.com/2010/02/10/when-the-virtual-clashes-with-the-real/ that is a much better example of Chinese cinema, and decent acting for a bunch of nontrained netizens

      • I love Wong Kar Wei’s stuff (yes, even 2046, watched it 3 times), Ang Lee is world-renowned, these directors are by no stretch of the imagination ‘western’, it is only that the individualism and lack of ‘morality’ or ‘patriotism’ (i.e., agreeing with everything the party says and does) you see in their films marks their work as not mainland Chinese. There are still many good Chinese films, it’s just that they aren’t made in mainland China.

      • When you say “most Chinese movies” are you considering the movies that aren’t touted as “epics” or “blockbusters”? I’ve recently learned a lot about Chinese films, and there are quite a few good movies out there. And there’s hope for the future too, as there are more underground film makers on the rise.

  10. For fuck’s sake my last post got delayed because I linked to a website that’s NOT BLOCKED IN CHINA. http://Xhotobucket.com/ (replace the X with a p) is not blocked, I don’t know if http://imgur.com/ is or not but can someone please see by clicking on my name and telling me if you see a picture.

  11. This movie failed, not because it pushes ‘avatar’ out of the screen and people actively boycotted the movie out of anger, or it cling too close to the government line, or it fails to accept criticism, or Chinese people are disrespectful to the history. It failed, because it does not have a topic that catches the attention of the common audience nor does it have eye-catching visual effects.

    Who would want to go watch a biography? If I said somebody made a movie on George Washington or Martin Luther King, would your business intuition tell you that they will succeed or fail in box office?

    In another note, to me, Han Han just seems like a narcissistic, douchebag/half-gay pretty boy. I mean who else would shoot and post so many professional photography of themselves, especially when they are men? He is witty and good with words. I will agree with that. However, his writing content has nothing that is revolutionary. Everybody essentially knows it already. He is just summarizing the general sentiment.

    Just add any of these 3 themes to anything you write- “fuck the government/go freedom and democracy”, “fuck the rich/go poor or middle class people”, “fuck traditional Chinese culture and values/go modern western liberal values”- and you will get the majority of Chinese people on your side. Add on some witty satire. Respond quickly to every incident, and accurately summarize the sentiment that everyone is thinking about and saying already. Have good looks and post tons of professional photos of yourself posing. Then you will have yourself the next Han Han.

    • Yeap, that about sums it up.

      I need to think a little more but off my head the only biographical/historical movie which became a box office successes is Mel Gibson’s Passion of the Christ. If you consider 300 a “historical” movie then I guess that’s another one. Traditional historical movies like Elizabeth may score rave reviews but they all bomb financially.

      Hanhan is typical of the the Chinese who were never really exposed to the west but insists it’s better in every way. It’s the typical “grass is always greener on the other side” mentality. China should produce more hanhans in the tibet exile community.

      • Well there’s Braveheart, Gandhi, Frost/Nixon, Patton, JFK, Nixon, W., the list goes on, the difference is that these movies were made with interesting story lines by directors who knew what they were doing.

        • Your list does not contradict what I said that a historical biography will generally not become a blockbuster. I did not say they will not be critically acclaimed. By fail, I mean nobody watches it. Other than Patton, which is an outlier and probably an incredibly good film and match the public patriotic sentiment. Also, violence helped.

          Braveheart is like 300. Ignore historical accuracies to play up violence and drama. Not really a biography or historic movie, unless you count 300 the same.

          Gandhi, Frost/Nixon, Nixon, W., they only demonstrates what I said. They may get good reviews, but did you see how little they gross commercially (a quick check on wikipedia). Most of them barely recovered their budget, with Nixon completely failing. They maybe good films with good actors and directors, but nobody watched it.

          JFK is a film that generated a lot of controversy in the press before it’s screened. It’s obvious why people watched it then.

          • These are box office numbers from imdb.com

            JFK – $205,400,000 (worldwide) (budget 40,000,000)
            Gandhi – 52,767,889 (only in USA) (budget 22,000,000)
            Patton – $61,700,000 (only is USA) (budget 12,000,000)
            Walk the Line (aka “Cash”) – http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0358273/business there are so many numbers here (budget 28,000,000)
            Ray – 75,331,600 (budget 40,000,000)

            I could go on, but I’m getting bored. You fail, epically.

          • Just to add – I’m not saying that biographies are gold, obviously some fail just as some movies of other genres also fail. I just think you’re holding an untenable position that “nobody watches biographies”.

    • “In another note, to me, Han Han just seems like a narcissistic, douchebag/half-gay pretty boy”

      DING DING DING

      Chinasmack, please stop posting about this wanker. He’s wearing a pearl necklace in that picture for fuck’s sake.

    • “Who would want to watch a biography?”

      Ever heard of “Cash”, “Ray”, “Malcolm X”, “Elizabeth”, etc etc? People love biographies, and they consistently make money (sometimes loads of money), which is why they keep being made.

  12. To call Chinese movies boring is an insult to boring movies. The best award a Chinese movie can get would be ‘Banned in China’.

    Is Xiaolu Guo’s “She, a Chinese” shown in China? That’s one I would like to see.

  13. Hanhan wrote “Moreover, the only historical epics I’ve seen that are classics are about humanity fighting for freedom and revolting against fate. I have never seen a historical epic about resolutely assisting the ruler,”

    I disagree with this. I don’t see how Hanhan could have forgotten the historical fiction Hero 英雄. The movie kicked ass, and it was about the hero assisting the ruthless ruler. The ending was unpredictable because everyone was expecting the bad guy to be killed. Hero made something like 170M USD total and is one of the top movies made in China. Most people including the western movie critics loved the it as it has a 95% fresh rating on rottentomatos. I would say it’s one of the most enjoyable Chinese movies which came to the West. Zhang YiMou’s other movies like Ju Dou and Red Lantern got good reviews too but were simply too fucking depressing become popular. If one want to make a pro-government movie that’s how you do it.

    Hong Kong’s Wong Kar Wei made some quirky but totally enjoyable movies like Chungking Express, which is my personal favorite.

    I don’t follow hanhan other than what I see sometimes on chinasmack but he is probably not nearly as smart as he thinks he is. In this essay for example, he started mocking confucious from a commercial point of view. It’s naive to equate commercial success to good movie making. The top grossing movies this year were Avatar and Transformers 2. The later Michael Bay movie despite totally kicking ass was completely mindless and stupid. Avatar’s story was blend, but like Transformers 2 the production values were fantastic.

    • Hero massacred the history of the First Emperor, but yes, it was a decent film. Actually, that’s probably why it was a decent film because nobody could identify with a tyrannical mass murderer like the real Qin Shi Huang. But throw in a tragic love story between Tony Leung and Maggie Cheung, throw in a bimbo Zhang Ziyi, and a too-cool-for-his-own-pants Jet Li, and you have a multi-million dollar blockbuster.

      But you’re right. It wasn’t about freedom. It was about sacrificing for the greater good.

  14. All this talk about Chinese cinema is redundant: unless the government loses the reigns over the industry, there will be no innovation, fresh ideas or imagination. State cinema is propaganda (let’s call a spade a spade, shall we?).

    There is no future for Chinese cinema unless they let it become it’s own industry that make movies that reflect what people want to see. Otherwise, it’s masturbation for C-C-P.

  15. I am still looking forward to the movie where Chairman Mao is fucking all his female assistants and where Jiang Zemin is fucking the female singer his is in love with

  16. If you are interested in pop culture kind of Confucius this is better choice: http://www.amazon.com/Analects-Confucius-English-Chinese-Tsai-Chung/dp/B00116E8TQ

    Anyway, talking ’bout famous blogers, Fauna is better known than Han Han. Who is Han Han’s father?

  17. I agree completely with SD and it’s definitely true that many Chinese have no pride/respect for their history and culture. Everything “Western” is automatically better than anything Chinese. This inferiority complex is why Chinese people jump at the chance to be something else (ex. lets make up a “Taiwanese” so at least we aren’t called Chinese).

    What other people are like this? Look at North and South Korea. At least both sides are proud that they are Korean.

  18. HanHan is perceptive and refreshingly honest.
    “There has never been a country that likes making movies about things that came before the country existed the way the People’s Republic of China does.”
    Wow…a few years ago we’d have had to mount a HanHan watch to accurately make the odds on how long he’d live.

  19. I have always wondered why there is not ONE Chinese movie about the future.

    Not one.

    And 90% of the Chinese movies and TV shows are about history, or set in the old times.

    Can someone explain to me why great Sci-Fi epics do well and are enjoyed immensely by Chinese yet no film makers make any?

  20. Sci-fi requires a good grasp of both scientific knowledge and fictional composition, which only the present generation of Chinese are starting to possess.

  21. “(ex. lets make up a “Taiwanese” so at least we aren’t called Chinese)”

    Nice way of using an example to over-simply an already simple sterotype…

    that would be sarcasm in case you didnt catch it

  22. Chinese movies being about history is nothing to do with the CPP. Looking back a history, China has always revered old shit. Even in the Qing Dynasty, official are still reciting Confucius.

  23. Or Luo Guanzhong writing ‘The Romance of the three Kingdoms’ during Ming-Dynasty.

    Yes. China is a sucker for old stuff. Lu Xun is right after all.

    That being said, I think the best way the CCP can get rid of loads of dissents and critics is just to hand them passports and visas for free and tell them to GTFO of China and into the West for ten or so years.
    Prefereably to such fucking boring, moral-fagging and lib-tarded democracies like Germany or something.
    Let them expierience the rotting sleaze of endless pointless political discussions, total inflexibility, end of societal development, and the general feeling of a pensionary, living in a old-age home and waiting for the death to come without any evil enemies left to fight, no great master-plan to accomplish and with no hope for a different future.

    I’m sure these naiive dissents and youthful critics such as Han Han will quickly change their mind, realizing that the grass over there isnt greener than at home – even if it’s only because of the disgusting food (for most Chinese anyway) over here. Well, eating Grünkohl mit Bregenwurst must be learned…

  24. this han han guy sounds interesting. 320 million hits on his blog, a celebrity, and anti-establishment. i pray for his safety, so that the regime doesn’t decide to silence him for dissent.

    i for one will continue watching the chinese film industry in the years to come. it has been interesting watching it evolve since the 80s.

  25. I’m still waiting for the Mao Zedong movie on the Great Leap Forward.

  26. Even Chow Yun-fat once joked,I want to practise my Putonghua through “Confucius”.

  27. How about a 3D movie of a Chinese emperor making out with his 1000 concubines?

    That would be a world-wide box office hit!!

  28. Chinese are such western wannabees. Unlike Japanese and Koreans, most Chinese have English names-and weird monnikers at that.

    Confucius had been adopted as Korea’s favorite son anyways.
    And S. Koreans sure make lots of historical flicks with Korea-centric viewpoints that Chinese lap up.

    • I dont like how you use the term ‘wannabes’.
      Well the Chinese in the west a majority of youngsters have English names, however Chinese in the east dont have English names. Not very sure about the Japanese. But im pretty sure Koreans are now adapting English names, this may due to the western influences such as music etc.

      • Are you wearing blinders? And your name is Alex? Look at all the English names of HK, Taiwan filmstars: Jackie, Maggie, Jessie, Andy, Nick, Michelle, Tony…… Check out HK, Taiwan, China newspapers and the English names of Chinese. bloggers/authors just pop out. Only a very small minority of Koreans adopt English names. Except for Rain, all their major stars still keep their ethnic names.

        • Jackie, Maggie, Jessie, Andy… are all from Hongkong. Modern chinese Artists from the Mainland do not use an English Name. e.g. Dao Lang

          Korean Entertainer are just aiming for the Asian (China – Japan) Market. So there is no use for an English name. Another problem is, that Chinese name are really difficult to pronounce for foreigners. In “normal” live neither Koreans, Japanese or Chinese are using English names.

          Please do not use the term “wannabes”. That is really ridiculous and misleading. I could also call Koreans “wannabes” for their enthusiasm for christianity. Which would be the same bullshit.

  29. Vicki Zhao Wei, Betty Sun Li, Chris Li Yuchun, Jane Zhang
    are all mainland Chinese. Young mainlanders who work in cities certainly do adopt western names – for the reason you mentioned – that Chinese names are difficult to pronounce.

    Korean and Japanese films have a global markets, but they don’t rename themselves Jackie or Maggie for the benefit of westerners.

  30. I think Han Han is right on. Way too many historical epics. There has to be a SPOOF Chinese Historical movie trailer. They are all the same. I just saw the kong zi trailer and it’s so predictable. Visually amazing. but all the same. Do the same on some issue today and the people will go nuts to buy a ticket!

  31. I paused in the middle of the DVD because I thought I really couldn’t “get it”. As a person learning Mandarin and without subtitles, it’s usually hard but I experienced cognitive dissonance and decided to read reviews to see if I really was so dumb I thought the plot was so off.

    Han is right, the best movies reflect people’s desires and pure emotions, it allows them to transcend their imagination as a collective through a shared (visual, otherwise) experience. We cannot relate to Confucius and the entire plot! Great movies make us bring questions we often take for granted onto a higher philosophical level (M.Night Shyamalan, Lady in Water, e.g)

    Really disappointed with the movie. I think it was naive to assume China would ever dare to ask its people to think in a higher order. For that I hope the Chinese people realize the world completely sees this now after watching the movie!

  32. The reason why “Confucius” fails may be traced to a more broader based failure – modern China and the modern Chinese have lost their soul and no replacement has been found yet.

    Those who produced “Confucius” and hope it will be a success in any manner are like those Chinese who just have nothing to hold on to except Chinese martial art, qigong, wudang or the repeated focusing on the the pandas being unique to China or to just claim some uniqueness in some things Chinese. Those whose souls are rigid and lethargic do no understand human psychology and they act mostly from rigidly held opinions and cannot see beyond themselves.

    Anyone who want to make successful films must first understand the success of some popular childhood stories that have been passed down and told and retold for a few hundred years, eg:-
    1) The Pipe Piper of Hamlin.
    2) Cinderella – and how illogical it is that only one woman’s foot can fit into that glass shoe – and cheated us all again and again.

    If anyone can make a film or TV drama on the life of Confucius that become a hit, then that director and scriptwriter would be genius of the highest order.

  33. Han Han should go back to driving his car, he not good at anything else.

    He uses his popularity in his desperate attempt to get noticed, like every other celebrity.

    It doesn’t make him a competent speaker or the most intelligent kind of people.

    Yes he is only influential because of his fame.
    Wait a minute, that sounds so much like America…

    Someone censor this guy, his rubbish might spread.

  34. I don’t agree with Han Han.

    This film was a failure because a movie about Confucius is lame. Nobody in the western world dares to make a movie about western thinkers like Descartes, Plato, Aristotle, Nietzsche, Aquinas. It’s disrespectful to make a movie about a philosopher highlighting his life and not his thought.

    This was a clearly state run movie. pretty embarrassing.

  35. Japanese cinema is only world class if you’re talking about horror movies or some of their older films. Most of their new films really aren’t that good.

  36. “Zulus . . . . . Fah-sands of them . . .”

    The old imperial epics were the best,nothing like Michael Cane, Alec Guiness and the rest to make what was probably wanton imperial smash-and-grab look like true heroism. Still love those films.

  37. Zulu… an awesome film, and well made.

  38. Hate to do this to ya, Tubbs
    Better than world class?
    So it’s, er, like Alpha Centauri class?

    Also, yes, roflcopter is a faggot as are his many alter-egos and almost all the Chinese cinema or TV that I’ve seen is laughably bad combining implausible dialogue, hilariously bad acting (exacerbated by the ultra-serious close-ups) and rigid, predictable storylines. A tiny minority of the shows seem OK, but they’re definitely not making anything close to Sopranos, Curb, Wire, Arrested or Basterds. Coen Brothers ftw!

  39. Are you looking at it from a Chinese IP address?

  40. I disagree. There are still a lot of great movies coming out of Japan. I highly recommend The Taste of Tea and Hanging Garden. They’re a few years old, but I haven’t been keeping up with Japanese movies very well since I came to China.

    From what I’ve seen, Korean movies have fallen back a bit in the last couple years. Although the movie Han Han mentions, Mother, is pretty good.

  41. Narrow Dwellings? Personally I think Chinese TV drama beats movie every since the late 80′s.

  42. Sort of like City Of Lost Children meets the Cultural Revolution, eh? Now, that’s a winner!

  43. I liked Zulu, it’s a masterpiece portraying the eternal struggle between civilization and black people.

  44. Without sounding like a complete homo and hoping for only a partial homo effect, Pusan Player (or Warren – as I like to call him in my throws of passion) actually had me laughing for a good minute or so.

    I rate that enough to issue a +1 if only it were possible on this newly censored forum.

    Rolfcoptor… you are seriously a faggot. I hope you die along with your alter-ego “laowaixian”.

  45. Except they choked, they swerved aside from representing modern China too darkly as the plot involved government corruption – and just like directors everywhere, they felt the need to have a happy ending.

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