Mother Told Children to Lie About Rescuer to Avoid Liability

The broken railing at the site of the incident has already been repaired.
The broken railing at the site of the incident has already been repaired.

From NetEase:

University Student Drowns Saving 2 Children, Parent Tells Child to Lie Fearing Blame

@河南商报: Mother of Rescued Child: Afraid of Being Blamed, Coaches Child to Lie — This early morning at a bit past 1am, the mother of a child who had fallen into water admitted in an interview that because she was afraid of being blamed, she had taught her child to lie. At the time, she had taken three children to play by the artificial lake, but because the guardrail around the lake being loose, two of the children had fallen in. When they cried for help, nearby Meng Ruipeng heard and came running and jumped into the water to save them. (Henan Business Daily reporter Xu Fangfang)

Recently, news about a “University Student Drowns Saving Children Fallen into Water” captured many eyeballs, with people praising the college students’ heroics and regretting his drowning.

Yesterday, another version of this story attracted attention, with media reporting that local police stating in interviews that Meng Ruipeng had not drowned saving the children but had accidentally fallen into the water himself.

With regards to this, Meng Ruipeng’s family and schoolmates proclaimed that they “don’t want payback, only justice”, while the children who fell into the water said it was three people who had together fallen into the water that day. So just what exactly is the truth?

The Incident

Media reports “University Student Drowns Rescuing People|

On the afternoon of February 26th, at an artificial lake in [Henan province] Puyang city Qingfeng county Hancun town Xizhaolou village, someone drowned. The deceased was Meng Ruipeng, whose family lives in Qingfeng county Hancun town Mengjiaofu village, was 24 years old this year, and a third year student at the North China Irrigation Works and Hydroelectric Power University Education College.

For what reason was such a young life lost? According to a Dahe Daily report, that afternoon, two children were playing by the artificial lake when they accidentally fell into the water.

Meng Ruipeng happened to be nearby when he saw this happen, took off his clothes, and jumped into the water. Ultimately, the children were rescued, but he was never to come up again.

Meng Ruipeng is the only son of his family, whose neighbors say he was extremely thoughtful/considerate ever since he was small. After he entered university, he was also consistently at the top of his class, and even elected as an outstanding group cadre.

February 27th, @人民日报 [The People’s Daily], @头条新闻 [Headline News], @环球时报 [Global Times], and such major media rushed to publish Meng Ruipeng’s story, with tens of thousands of netizens regretting “the early death of heroes”.

To rush forward to save others without regard for one’s own safety is the instinct of the kind-hearted! May the hero rest in peace!

@腿子姐: Praise for Henan people, may this beautiful man rest in peace.

A twist:

Subsequent information claims

“The university student had fallen into the water accidentally”

Just as the entire nation’s media and netizens were praising Meng Ruipeng’s heroism, a new version of events came out.

Media reported that a Qingfeng county Hancun town police station police officer said there was no evidence that Meng Ruipeng had sacrificed his life to save others. The two children also said during interviews that the three of them had fell into the water together.

Meng Ruipeng’s paternal older female cousin Meng Xue (Weibo user @小流流_大得瑟) published a microblog post claiming that the two children’s parent had rushed to leave the scene without concern for the rescuer’s life or death! And afterward, out of fear that she would have to shoulder responsibility, kept evading and refusing to speak, refusing to acknowledge the truth of the children having been rescued!

Following which, North China Irrigation Works and Hydroelectric University’s “年华似水BBS站” [Years Flow like Water BBS Website] official microblog, using the #University Student Who Rescued Drowning Children Not Acknowledged by Parent# hashtag, published multiple microblog posts.

Currently, Meng Ruipeng’s relatives and schoolmates are proclaiming that they “don’t want payback [compensation], only justice”. The twists and turns of this “rescue incident” once again incited heated discussion among netizens.


Was it “drowned rescuing others” or “accidentally fell into the water”?

24-year-old university student Meng Ruipeng’s death has left indescribably pain for his loved ones and friends. However, the dispute over whether he had drowned in an act of heroism or had lost his own footing and fallen into the water gets more and more intense.

In fact, the description of what happened has been different between Meng Ruipeng’s family and friends and the children who fell into the water right from the beginning.

Nearby villagers give accounts of the situation when the incident occurred.
Nearby villagers give accounts of the situation when the incident occurred.


Meng Ruipeng’s family and friends:

His mobile phone and clothes are ashore; he had jumped into the water to rescue others

Meng Ruipeng’s relatives insist that Meng Ruipeng had heroically sacrificed his life. Yesterday afternoon, Meng Ruipeng’s father left home to meet with North China Irrigation and Hydroelectric University’s lawyers, in hopes of returning justice to his son.

Meng Ruipeng’s girlfriend remains stricken with grief from the lost of her lover, and it was only after this Henan Business Daily reporter repeatedly called her that she finally answered the phone.

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She says, on the day the incident occurred, Meng Ruipeng had came looking for her at her home, during which he had gone to the lakeside not 50 meters away. Not long later, she received a call from someone claiming to be Hancun town police, asking “What is your relationship to Meng Ruipeng? Hurry and come to the lakeside.”

When she arrived, she only saw Rui Mengpeng’s mobile phone and clothes placed on a long bench in a pavilion by the lake. “When I went there, I didn’t see the two children’s parent.”

“If he had accidentally fell into the water, how would he have been able to put his mobile phone and clothes on the bench?” It isn’t just Rui Mengpeng’s girlfriend who questions this, Meng Xue and netizens also have this question.


Parent of the children who fell into the water:

The children were not rescued by Meng Ruipeng

With regards to Meng Ruipeng falling into the water, according to a report by Voice of China’s Newsline, the two children’s parents believe the children were not rescued by Meng Ruipeng and he was also not a hero.

According to its report, one of the children who had fell into the water said: “A man came by. He was holding a mobile phone but doing what I don’t know. He then leaned on the railing and put his foot up, causing the railing to fall down and the three of us all fell in.”

A person at the scene familiar with the incident said he heard one of the children’s parents say: If Meng Ruipeng had not put his foot on the railing, their children wouldn’t have fallen in.”

As for why Meng Ruipeng’s clothes and mobile phone are all ashore, a person familiar with the matter says one of the parents of the children who fell into the water explained that the temperature that day was not low, and that Meng Ruipeng had taken them off and placed them on the bench in the pavilion because he had felt hot.



Hope authorities will quickly determine the truth

Whether Meng Ruipeng was rescuing others or had fallen into the water, both sides sticking to their stories has incited an intense reaction from the public, with some even calling this a repeat of the Peng Yu case a number of years ago, and others claiming this incident’s ultimate aftermath will be influence “whether people will dare to rescue others in the future”.

Many netizens online support Meng Ruipeng’s family, asserting “we cannot let down our heroes”. The official microblog account of the North China Irrigation and Hydroelectric University that Meng Ruipeng attended has also made posts denouncing the parent of the children who had fallen into the water, asserting they “don’t want payback [compensation], only justice”.

However, there are also many netizens who express that the facts have yet to be ascertained clearly, so it is inappropriate to comment, and hope that the local police will quickly determine the truth, to give the deceased and those concerned with this incident an explanation of what happened.

Yesterday night at 11:30pm, an insider send this Henan Business Daily reporter a recording. In the recording, an eyewitness confirms seeing “two children first falling into the water, and not three people falling in at the same time.”


The truth of the incident “comes to light”

So was Meng Ruipeng’s death “accidentally falling in” or “an act of heroism”?

A netizen raised the “question”: There were witnesses who saw Meng Ruipeng’s jacket, mobile phone, and wallet all on the bench in the pavilion next to the lake, so if he himself had fallen into the water, why would he put his jacket, mobile phone, and wallet on the shore?

Another netizen analyzed: The two children who fell into the water were 4 and 7 years old respectively, so it is not very likely that they have been influenced by the outside world and thus their testimony’s credibility is higher.

So just what is the truth of the matter? On February 28th, Qinfeng county Public Security Bureau Political Office Deputy Director Han Zijie expressed in a media interview that “he (Meng Ruipeng) had leaned against the railing too hard, the railing suddenly broke away, and with the two children also beside him, the three of them fell into the water simultaneously.” He said because the ramifications of this matter are rather large, they will issue information bulletins through the Qingfen county county Party committee Propaganda [Public Relations] Department.

Voice of China’s Newsline reported that Hancun town police station police officer Li Yabin said there was no evidence that Meng Ruipeng rescued anyone. However, yesterday, when this Henan Business Daily reporter called Li Yabin, he said “some media has taken his words out of context, and that the incident was still being investigated.”

Yesterday afternoon, this Henan Business Daily journalist obtained information that the “information bulletin” originally planned to be released has been invalidated, that the Puyang city Public Security Bureau has become involved in the investigation. Yesterday night at 11:43pm, this Henan Business Daily learned that local Puyang police gathered local media at the scene of the incident claiming that the case has had a “major development” to be announced.

This morning at 12:45am, Puyang police announced that they have determined that Meng Ruipeng had acted to rescue others before he drowned.

Comments from NetEase:

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回直 [网易广东省广州市手机网友]:

The parent of the children who were saved is totally without conscience!

1個好朋友 [网易上海市静安区网友]:

A vivid expression of the ugliness of human nature.

网易天津市手机网友 ip:60.28.*.*

Truly TM disappointing. Just what kind of parent is this? Afraid of bearing liability. In this society of China’s, when something happens, everyone from top to bottom fears being held liable.

网易江西省手机网友 ip:106.226.*.*

I suggest making the names of the family of the two who were rescued, so the family members of those who were saved and “bit the hand” that saved them that can be condemned and suffer reprisals!

null [网易北京市手机网友]:


Frankie5 [网易江苏省南京市手机网友]:

The children should be drowned and the parent shot.

网易浙江省温州市手机网友 ip:124.160.*.*

Lei Feng has died in this society.

网易英国手机网友 ip:82.132.*.*

Why rescue? Talk about bringing trouble on oneself.

T灬bag [脑洞大开]:

Rest in peace, young man!

熊喜胖熊胖编苏是我男神 [网易黑龙江省手机网友]:

Why rescue them?

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  • JayJay

    I’m sorry, but looking at the bridge and the ‘lake’, how does a grown man, who obviously knew how to swim and was confident enough to rescue the kids, drown in it. There is no currents or waves. Can someone explain?

    • Rye

      You’re assuming he knew how to swim. There was an NFL player in the 1980s named Joe Delaney who drowned when he tried to rescure two drowning kids. He didn’t know how to swim, he just impulsively tried to save the kids.

      • JayJay

        Not a rational decision… maybe because statistic shows all American Football players all have some degree of brain damage during their career… just saying…

        • Paul Schoe

          Heroism often fails the ‘rational’ test.
          No need to down-talk the heroic act of somebody like Joe Delaney.

        • Edward Kay

          Who knows? Might have got entangled by weeds or fishing lines, or water demon, which I’m very sure would be blamed.

          • Amused

            Quick, let’s go camp outside the water demon’s house and demand compensation!

          • Edward Kay

            We can’t. His uncle the Mountain Ogre, has strong connections with the local police.

        • mr.wiener

          In my experience many Chinese people do not know how to swim (anadotal evidence I know) However I am a strong swimmer and I have rescued someone from drowning and I can tell you for a fact it is bloody exhausting and it damn near ended me.

          • Amused

            Yeah, its really common that when you reach the person you’re trying to pull out they try to climb you in a blind panic to get to air if they aren’t unconscious.

    • Poodle Tooth

      Try to swim while holding on to someone who is panicking. Unless you’ve trained specifically for that situation, you could still drown, even if you think you know how to swim.

    • sk8erry

      You can just google how dangerous it is to save a drowning person I guess? It’s way harder than it seems, even for trained professionals.

      • tommy 2 rings

        They’re taught to ditch the person if they make it too difficult and save them after they go unconscious or get exhausted

  • Amused

    Chinese liability law is in such a disgraceful state. That said, the whole idea of demanding money from someone for no reason other than they happened to be there when someone died(whether he was trying to save someone and couldn’t swim or not), reminds me of the sue happy dickwads back in the states who are constantly looking for someone to hose financially for their own mistakes or problems.

    On a side note, that is one raunchy looking pond.

    • lacompacida

      The laws are all right. But the arbitrary application of same by officials and judges makes the laws a laughing stock.

      • Amused

        That “arbitrary application” stems from broad language used in said laws and a lack of jurisprudence both of which give the judges carte blanche.

    • mwal

      TBH, all I’ve seen of this “phenomenon” over the past ten years is maybe a dozen items reported in the news and on sites like this one.

      1.3 to 1.4 billion people. Around a dozen stories in ten years.

      Even if you round “number of stories” up to a thousand, the Maths for it ain’t rocket surgery.

  • Free Man

    Everyone’s trying to cover their own ass or get upgrades for free. What’s new about this? The only thing I believe is that they all are lying somehow for some reason, maybe even without knowing or just by habit.

  • Anonymous



    • hekawila

      Exactly! My daughter is 3 and the amount of information that she absorbs is crazy. To say a 4 and 7 year will not be influenced obviously has not watched children’s tv and the adverts, or in my little one’s case ,- youtube. Especially the stupid toy unboxing channels. And don’t even get me started on how she found them ’cause I don’t have a clue. She knows how to use the ipad better than I!

  • Irvin

    More news about chinese that can’t swim, why am I not surprised.

  • I wouldn’t piss on Chinese people to save them from a fire

    • Alex Dương

      Karma, bro.

    • mwal

      So you’d go to the trouble of finding a hose with fresh water, instead?

      Kudos for your respectful behaviour.

      • i’d go to the nearest restaurant, order a qingdao and some bbq

        • mwal

          You would get them food and drink to help them recover?

          You are the kindest person I know.

          • lonetrey / Dan

            hahahaha the progression here made me chuckle

        • Vance

          Oh the warm and fuzzy feelings expressed here are like sunshine on a warm spring day. Those Chinese are blessed to have you around.

  • lonetrey / Dan

    Why is it that swimming and drowning ALWAYS come up with this sort of thing?

    I mean, if drowning is such a thing, why do people go around large bodies of water than?! FFS, I would think it’s the equivalent of playing around a lava pool, or a bottomless cliff.

    Do people not feel that pounding sensation in the middle of your head when they get too close to danger? … Maybe I’m just too sensitive to fear.

    Also, I’m curious what people here in CS think of the mother lying. She tries to protect her children? Or protect herself? Justified? Or disgusting behavior? A young man died to save your children and this is what he receives?

    As devil’s advocate, there’s nothing to do for a dead man now, and perhaps the mother just wants to try to do damage control for her children’s sake.

    • batorr

      Children drowning in rural areas is like a daily occurrence in China. PRC Chinese have no common sense in protecting their children from harm’s way. I’ve even seen these idiots feeding babies hard boiled eggs.

      • Poodle Tooth

        My Chinese wife had to be rescued from a river at least three times as a child. She still can’t swim.

        edit: I was in a supermarket in Beijing once (I think it was an Wumei, but whatever) and I noticed they had the baby food right next to the honey. I wonder how many parents got the wrong idea from that.

      • Lyn

        In Australia the government recently made swimming lessons free for people of Asian backgrounds (especially Chinese and Vietnamese) because they keep drowning when they visit beaches along with almost any body of water….

    • 宋易

      You’d think the mother would express indefatigable gratitude.

    • Dolph Grunt

      Have you ever been to Hangzhou? I’ve had similar thoughts to you on this issue and then I’m just flabbergasted when I walk around West Lake on these thin winding walkways with no guardrail/fence/protection.

      Between the fact that they seemingly have an inability to swim and, from my experience, an over abundance in ability to push and shove, makes me wonder… a) Who’s the bonehead that designed this with no safety whatsoever, and b) How many Chinese have ended up in the drink?

      And, from my experience, when asking people why they do things that are (from our point of view) dangerous, I get the old standard, “This is China.”

      Like the laws of physics get changed in the PRC… sigh :)

      • Boris

        “And, from my experience, when asking people why they do things that are (from our point of view) dangerous, I get the old standard, “This is China.”

        Like the laws of physics get changed in the PRC… sigh :)”

        Not the laws of physics, just no one gives a shit.

  • Guest

    In Hong Kong and in North America, the parents of the children would have been brought in for child neglect, their children would have been placed into foster care, and the wages of the parents may or may not be garnished to pay for that care or pay directly onto the children at age 16.

    Too many dumbass parents in China, and ex-pats too – I see these newcomers from Mainland who let their kids play in the parking lot. I don’t understand it, especially when the kids are well dressed and have expensive toys, and the parents buy them whatever they want – but they don’t keep eyes on kids!

    If I see the dumbass parents fall in, I won’t lift a finger, except to call the police, I won’t risk myself for idiots. Children however, are innocent, and worthy of being saved, no matter what their parents are coaching them to say, the truth will out and I believe the children would grow to understand that this stranger who saved them has shown them more care than their own parents who would have left them to drown.d

    • lacompacida

      In any other country, the owner of the bridge, probably the PRC government, will be ordered to pay compensation.

    • 宋易

      I disagree with both of you. In the U.S., there probably wouldn’t be any lawsuit unless it was on government land or land owned by a corporation or other very wealthy entity.

      • Vance

        Most states in the US, if not all, have laws protecting rescuers from liability lawsuits.

        • 宋易

          This isn’t about protecting the rescuer. The one who tried to disavow blame is the mother who didn’t bother to prevent her small children who can’t swim from falling into the lake.

    • Dolph Grunt

      I don’t know if, overall, I agree with your points, but I have noticed that too many Chinese are bound by the “This is China” rule. The authority “encourages” something and they just follow along with it. In this case, having a child before age 27. It seems that no matter who it is, how bright or well read they seem to be, they’ll fall back on the “This is China” clause.

      I remember years back, having a friend over to my house in Chongqing. She was 29 years old with a 4 year old son. Because of work, her husband never saw the kid, she rarely saw him, and primarily the job of raising the child was the grandparents. And let me tell you, this boy was a terror.

      She told me how worried and stressed she was at the development of her son and I asked her, “Why wouldn’t you wait until you could actually raise the child yourself?”

      Guess what the answer was.

      • Alex Dương

        In fairness, female fertility and age are related. So I’m not sure that this is the best example of what you call the “This is China” mentality.

        • Dolph Grunt

          Point taken, but I’m going to still disagree.

          Point in case is me. My parents went to university, got work and established before even considering having a child. My mother was 32 when she had me.

          The majority of women in China give birth between the ages of 23 to 27, regardless of their situation. I’ve seen plenty of parents that absolutely aren’t equipped to have children and yet they do it anyways.

          It’s not every case, and it’s a little less evident in urban areas as opposed to rural.

          It’s just my opinion, but I find too many people are having children when they’re too young simply because it’s expected of them.

          • Alex Dương

            Let’s take a look at the U.S. I think you’d agree that there is no governmental pressure / propaganda urging people to get married and procreate between the ages of 23 and 27. Moreover, statistically, people are waiting longer to get married and have kids than they used to (e.g. compared to the 1970s).

            And yet, despite all this, the median age for women to get married is ~25 years; and for men, it’s ~27 years. Sure, that means half are married at older ages, but even then, a lot of couples in the U.S. are getting married between the ages of 23 and 27. That’s why I don’t think this is the best example of a “this is China” mentality.

  • lacompacida

    A great story that illustrated the Chinese character very well. Yep. Avoid responsibility by lying, and telling her children to lie. Great work.

    • mwal

      A bit harsh. It’s more “avoid a lawsuit that could destroy your family”.

      It’s not unusual for people to be terrified of going to court (not everyone is a lawyer, who goes there every day), and people can act rashly and irrationally when they’re scared.

      • 宋易

        Lying to avoid responsibility is par of the course here, in my experience. I’ve been lied to about the smallest things by students and adults alike. Sometimes I give the benefit of the doubt, maybe a miscommunication due to language or culture, but other times its clearly just plain lying.

        But I think you’re right that the justice system contributes to compelling people to do this when shit gets real. I can’t imagine this being a case in the U.S….. possibly negligence, but likely it would just be considered an unfortunate tragedy.

        • mwal

          Exactly. There wouldn’t be any threat at all to the mother or her children, so she would be free to give thanks to the boy and his family.

          It’s sad that what appears to be excessive media attention has led to people being so afraid of doing what is right.

        • Vance

          I wonder why? What is the moral framework in China? I noticed that religion of any kind does not seem to have the foothold in China that it does in most countries, even former Communist countries. I know Taoism and Buddhism are the most widely practiced faiths there, but even those are only practiced by a minority of the people. Where do they get their concepts of right and wrong?

          • Myra Esoteric

            You know, Americans are the most concerned about liability not Chinese. Lol

          • Poodle Tooth

            Americans are concerned with it preemptively. Chinese are concerned with it after something happens.

          • Vance

            That’s a good way of saying it.

          • Dolph Grunt

            Good point. I think it has to do with the nature of the government structures. Both societies are distrusting of their government, but the US challenges something prior to action saying, “Look what you’re going to do!” whereas the Chinese tend to be wary of challenging government programs until after the mess saying, “I thought you were supposed to take care of that.”

            There’s more factors I’m sure, like media transparency, but if I was to guess, an authority driven society isn’t likely to be too preemptive.

          • Dolph Grunt

            Americans are concerned with how the law can be used against them. Chinese are concerned with how the law can be fabricated against them.

          • Myra Esoteric

            isn’t that the same thing tho lol

          • Poodle Tooth

            The way that liability is decided in China is capricious at best. That’s what happened to the moral framework in China.

  • Zappa Frank

    china, so many lakes everywhere and so few people able to swim…so many parents and so few commonsense.. that in mainland should be called “uncommonsense”

    • Alex Dương

      Serious question: is it safe to swim in them?

      • Zappa Frank

        in my opinion are dangerous place to swim. Mostly are not a lakes like the ones of Jiuzhaigou valley, but pounds of slime mud…

      • Poodle Tooth

        Only the ones people drink from, and you’re not allowed to swim in those.

      • mwanafa

        Wether they are actually safe to swim I’ll leave that question to the experts, but they are not clean and I will never even try to swim in them. One thing I know is that many folks swim in them either way.

    • bujiebuke

      Even Mao Zedong couldn’t get people to swim. That’s right, 1960’s Chinese would not dip into that water even for Mao. Many Asians are actually part cat – FACT.

      • 宋易

        Is it rude to say “you are what you eat?” :-D

        • bujiebuke

          Hehe, I suppose that idiom might apply to this case. Then again, aren’t Asians known for eating anything and everything?

      • Bas


  • Guest

    Update: cow has confessed:

    Heroic deed covered up

    A woman in Puyang confessed that she made her children lie to police because she did not want to be held responsible for the death of the 24-year-old man who drowned after saving two of her children, Henan Business Daily reports. College student Meng Ruipeng died in a lake in Qingfeng county’s Xizhaolou village on Thursday after pulling two drowning children, aged four and seven, to shore. The woman left the scene with the children before police came, and later coached the children to say that Meng was coincidentally also in the water with them at the time.

  • gregblandino

    Maybe it’s my wechat feed, but I’ve been seeing some activity about the Peter Liang case and organizing a petition to have the Brooklyn DA rescind the indictment of Officer Liang. Maybe a story on that Chinacmack?

    • mwal

      A story about Americans shooting each other?

      Is there enough room on the Internet?

      • Zappa Frank

        we had a story about a Chinese immigrant killed in new York, so why not?

        • mwal

          Liang’s an American, born and raised. From what I’ve seen, he may never even have been to China (and may even take the anti-Chinese line that many second- and subsequent-generation Chinese-Americans take).

          You’re not allowed to judge people by the colour of their skin, remember.

          • Zappa Frank

            Where was I judeging people from the color of the skin?
            I think abc in case take an anti communist party line (not all), not anti Chinese…

          • mwal

            Jus’ sayin’ he’s a Yank, even if he looks Chinese (by the colour of his skin). Best not to assume that he has any Chinese sensibilities.

            And if we had to read stories about every American who shot or was shot by another American, we wouldn’t have time for anything else.

          • Zappa Frank

            look i think there is a misunderstanding, i ve no idea about who is this person..i dont read much of americans news. i ve simply pointed out that in past on chinasmack we had a story about a chinese overseas killed…… now that i think about we have sometime also story completely unrelated with China, it is all up to what is popular on chinese internet website…or at least it was

          • gregblandino

            The Chinese angle would be that a petition is circulating on the Chinese interwebs trying to pressure the Brooklyn DA to withdraw the indictment due to perceived anti Chinese bias. I thought it was interesting how political organization in China is curtailed, but overseas organization is tolerated. Plus every article on here that touches on race/relgion blows up, so good for the page hits. Plus there is an interesting “Chinese must unite!” vs. “He’s an American who cares” vibe going on in the comment sections.

      • Vance

        Maybe if they only cover the ones that cause the locals to burn down THEIR OWN neighborhood in protest.

        • mwal


          That might cut it down to a manageable number.

  • AbC

    He may have been a weak or mediocre swimmer who could have kept himself afloat in water but wasn’t strong enough to save others.

    He might have been the only one present who had any level of swimming experience. So nothing should be taken away from his heroics if he tried to save the kids knowing it might just cost his own life. Isn’t that the definition of heroism (risking one’s life to save another)?

  • Ji

    Why lie? Common sense dictates that if you try and save someone and suffer a mishap, you take full responsibility for that because you were already prepared to put yourself in potentially dangerous situation in the first place. Everyone need to appreciate those who would willingly put their own lives on the line for yours.

  • Bluex

    Don’t save anyone unless you get someone to take a video of you doing so. Wait, better with getting the press on site first, then do your heroic deeds.

    • AbC

      You are thinking like a Chinese politician (or any politician for that matter)

      • Bluex

        Way better than getting backstabbed imo.

    • YourSupremeCommander

      The 3 officials would agree 100%.

  • Foreign Devil

    Now I know why Chinese don’t have bathtubs. . they would all drown. You are an idiot if you try to save a drowning person and don’t know how to swim. Their justice system is fucked, seems more litigious even than the American one when it comes to suing other people (not companies, or government bodies which are immune to lawsuits in China).

  • Dolph Grunt

    I think the biggest question behind this story is; What kind of moron police are these that take so long to wrap up a case like this?

  • Dolph Grunt

    “The broken railing at the site of the incident has already been repaired.”

    Look at the picture. THAT’S repaired??!!

    • Munkee

      I thought exactly the same thing ;-)



  • Learn to swim already. I remember as a 5 year old going to swimming lessons as I did every week of my life until 8 or 9. Freezing mornings in a freezing Canberra pool. The strange thing is that swimming is a very natural thing – took my Peke to the Chaoyang doggy park and while he hates water and I enjoyed throwing him in the doggy pool – he doggy paddled find back to the sun and fresh chuanr.

  • zer0

    Teach them how to fucking swim!! What a poor and unnecessary way to die when it’s just a lake. I don’t know why anymore but I also had a discussion about being able to swim once in my language class and my Chinese friend said she can’t swim and doesn’t feel like it’s necessary either. Like, what the hell? You never know when you need something so learn as much as you can! It’ll save you more than hurt you.

  • crimsonarmor

    Well I hope there is justice for whoever. Rest in peace young man

  • H Janson

    stopped reading at “henan”

  • Jahar

    What is it with Chinese people falling into rivers and lakes? I don’t know how many stories I’ve heard about this happening, and I still don’t know how they do it.