Global Times: American TV Shows Removed to Help Chinese Shows

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From NetEase:

Global Times: American TV Shows Taken Down to Support Domestic Shows

[Note: The title may have been changed to “Global Times: American TV Shows Taken Down, Domestic TV Shows Still Need Improvement]

Recently, quite a few American TV show fans were surprised to discover that American TV shows such as The Big Bang Theory have one after another been taken down from many video streaming websites, with the webpages where they were taken down from showing “unable to be viewed due to [government] policy reasons”. As it is understood, 4 American TV shows that have been taken down, with them being The Big Bang Theory, The Good Wife, NCIS, and The Practice respectively. The two more influential [popular] ones are the first two, which have many hardcore fans domestically.

For watchers of the domestic film and television market, this news is actually not so unexpected. As early as last month, the State Administration for Radio, Film, and Television [SARFT] issued a notice concerning strengthening their auditing/censorship of online shows, microfilms, and other online audio-visual programming. Apart from shows domestically produced or produced by websites themselves, the American and British TV shows that the various major websites are competing to purchase shall also face government review. According to the aforementioned notice, the American and British TV shows purchased henceforth by websites must be “audited first before broadcasting”, with the programs that have been approved to report the local provincial-level SARFT record. Organizations/companies that broadcast shows in violation of regulations shall have punishments such as warnings, injunctions, and fines imposed upon them by SARFT in accordance with the “Regulations on the Management of Internet Audio-Visual Programming Service”.

American TV shows are currently on average the costliest and most influential TV shows in the world. Since being introduced into China, they have gained the following of many viewers, particularly urban audiences. However, because American TV shows have not been subject to China’s regulatory and censorship organs, some inappropriate, bloody, and violent plots/scenes in them have also appeared completely uncut on China’s video websites. Supervisory departments has in the past relatively neglected this phenomenon. Following the increasing purchasing of shows by many video websites in recent years, the influence of some content in American TV shows upon the youth [younger audiences] is increasingly pronounced. Thus, increasing oversight has become a necessary decision of supervisory/regulatory departments. According to analyses by foreign media, the implementation of this policy will affect 80% of American TV shows, and many American shows will face being taken down.

Kelly Cuoco, Penny in The Big Bang Theory.

Other than regulating content, “purifying” videos, the departments who have enacted this policy have an even deeper-level of consideration. Not long ago, many domestic film and television industry professionals voiced the same complaint: Domestic films and television shows need to face strict government review/censorship, but at the same time, the foreign films or television shows on the internet essentially face nothing in terms of government auditing/censorship. This makes it unfair when it comes to competition, with domestically produced films and television shows “losing at the starting line” as a result [domestic films and shows face greater scrutiny which makes it harder for them to compete with foreign shows]. In light of there still not being a ratings system for domestic movies and television shows, this kind of inequality in auditing/censorship greatly influences the market performance of domestically produced movies and television shows. Many industry insiders thus suggested: Identical auditing/censorship standards for foreign films and television shows broadcasted and screened domestically.

From the above facts, other than considerations for the mental and physical health of the young, it can be seen that the deeper reason for the censorship regulatory departments are threatening American TV shows lies in protecting the domestic film and television industry that remains vulnerable, especially the domestically-produced TV shows that look increasingly vulnerable in the face of competition from American shows. On the surface, this policy by SARFT has no relationship with the previously announced “Only Two Channels Per Show” policy to begin in 2015 [only two channels can broadcast the same show during prime time each evening], but actually has the same roots, with both using government policy to adjust the direction of the film and television market and help domestically-produced works. Media has conjectured that the crisis for American TV shows may very well be an opportunity for Korean and Japanese shows, that from this point on, video websites will increase their purchases of Korean dramas. However, this author believes that in following the “no longer negligent” supervision and regulation of regulatory departments, the excessive flood of foreign film and television works will change.

(Author is a well-known entertainment industry commentator)

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Comments from NetEase:

gu1573 [网易山东省济南市手机网友]:

As expected, they only allow us to watch bare-handed ripping apart of Japanese devils.

玲奈神推 [网易上海市手机网友]:

Then take down bangzi dramas as well.

网易湖北省武汉市手机网友 ip:113.57.*.*:

Domestic TV serials are just palace dramas and anti-Japanese war serials. What other subject-matter is there? Isn’t garbage like those produced by Yu Zheng not disgusting enough?

网易湖南省邵阳市手机网友 ip:222.243.*.*:

You want us to watch bare-handed ripping apart of Japanese devils every day? Palace dramas? Go to hell.

藥粉 [榜上有名]:

That The Big Bang Theory has been banned but 2 Broke Girls is still alive [being broadcasted] proves that vulgarity is not the reason. That The Walking Dead is still around proves that explicit/graphic content harming psychological health is also not the reason. That K-dramas are still around proves that low-intellect [content] is also not the reason. I can only think that they must confirm that the shows won’t make the people smart that they’ll allow the people to watch them.

网易河北省石家庄市手机网友 ip:106.113.*.*:

Why is it blocking American TV shows instead of having domestic producers work harder at making shows viewers like? So they’re not letting others broadcast their shows just because they themselves can’t make good ones? What kind of logic is this?

mmiluy [网易天津市手机网友]:

Global Shit Times

网易澳大利亚手机网友(101.119.*.*):

To be honest, A lot of violent scenes in American TV shows really aren’t good for the growth and development of young people [children].

网易美国手机网友 ip:68.48.*.*: (responding to above)

And bare-handed ripping apart of Japanese devils doesn’t have a [negative] impact/influence?

hzjgbl [网易浙江省杭州市手机网友]:

There is a country, that has never invaded China, yet we call it a “hostile Western power”; there is a country, that has never had an emperor, yet we call it “imperialist”; there is a country, that has provided money and people who brought their own planes to help China resist invaders, yet we dispatched millions of troops to cross borders and snipe at them; there is a country, that has time and time again saved China at critical moments, yet we hate them to the bone… there is a country, that is too low/despicable!

网易广东省广州市手机网友 ip:117.136.*.*:

Damn, can The Big Bang Theory be more violent than bare-handed ripping apart of Japanese devils?

Vkick [网易湖南省长沙市手机网友]:

This is not enough! There should only be one channel, CCAV!

秋水澄湖 [网易上海市手机网友]:

Might as well just shut down the internet and return to the age of one-way information dissemination, where there are only newspapers, television, and loudspeakers.

联合国人民解放军 [网易河南省郑州市手机网友]:

Global Shit Times is just a propaganda tool.

网易广东省广州市增城市手机网友 ip:218.19.*.*:

Violence, gore, sexual content… Americans watch these things and we don’t see them living worse than us.

yvonesw [网易河北省廊坊市手机网友]:

You say American TV shows are bloody and violent, so what others watch, we can’t? That a ratings system is has not been realized after all these years is the government simply doing nothing, ultimately having the ordinary common people foot the bill. Fuck you. If you can’t [do your jobs], then step down and let those who can.

动物园大灰狼 [网易辽宁省鞍山市手机网友]:

This feels like when Japanese and American cartoons were popular on various television channels, so SARFT came down with a policy that prohibited foreign cartoons from being broadcasted between 4pm and 11pm. Fucking, that is exactly when students [children] have time and that’s when you forbid them from being broadcasted? And what was the ultimate result? The ultimate result was the coddled rise of Pleasant Goat and Big Big Wolf. Saint Seiya taught us to be brave and persevere, Transformers taught us to fight against evil, Tom and Jerry made us understand humor. What has Pleasant Goat taught us? No matter how hard Grey Wolf tries, he’ll never be able to eat mutton. All the various sheep are always disrespecting their elders. Red Wolf teaches us domestic violence. Little Grey teaches us that we can betray our parents for others.

网易安徽省芜湖市手机网友 ip:36.58.*.*:

Those website are going to lose so much money, having spent so much money to buy [the shows] but are not unable to broadcast them. Bastard Party, bastard government!

网易广东省深圳市手机网友 ip:112.97.*.*:

A certain parent sees that their own son is both ugly and stupid, so they take a knife and hack to death the good-looking children of other families, then tells their own son that he is the best! Stupid cunt logic!

飘渺浪客0 [网易四川省成都市手机网友]:

Looks like those auditing/censoring domestic TV serials are all mentally retarded. Otherwise, how could there be so many anti-Japanese super hero serials? [also the name of a specific Chinese TV series]

网易美国手机网友 ip:73.183.*.*:

Is there nothing else more worth doing? Talk about a strange country/government. =.=

exo撸含 [网易北京市朝阳区手机网友]:

When there isn’t even the right to watch television shows, no matter how strong and powerful the country gets, what use is it?

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  • BJ

    Just get a VPN and you can watch watever you want!!! Stop panic!!!

    • Markus Peg

      They would want Chinese subtitles, they won’t need VPN just QVOD and/or torrents. China has 100s of websites where you can download from that are unaffected by crackdown, the crackdown mainly stops popular streaming sites like youku and tudou. savvy teens know many other good websites for their TV needs.

      • IsurvivedChina

        never had a problem downloading – blocking is a just joke, there is always a way around it!

  • Markus Peg

    As funny as it is to see a Chinese man rip a Japanese man in half with his hands, as it historically was during WW2 (lol), this is a big shame for many in China and as the comments reflect they are not happy, this will not stop them watching the shows they enjoy, they will just start using torrent websites instead or websites that allow QVOD stream/download of movies/tv shows.

    • Zappa Frank

      the rip in half japanese tv serie would be apreciate later as good example of chinese trash… like for the american tv series of the ’80s

      • noodles76

        WHAT!? 80’s TV was great man. The A-Team, MacGyver, Magnum P.I., Cheers, 21 Jump Street, The Cosby Show, Who’s the Boss, Taxi, Growing Pains, Night Court, Family Ties, Matlock…etc

        • Kai

          LoL, but there were a lot of forgettable shows too. Every era has them even when we wax nostalgic.

          • http://www.richardfordphotography.com/ Richard Ford

            Not Larry and Belkie!!!???

          • Kai

            Balky? LoL I enjoyed Perfect Strangers.

            EDIT: dammit, it’s “Balki” with an i.

          • http://www.richardfordphotography.com/ Richard Ford

            Balky/Belkie….. yeah they were cool. I hated that Kirk Cameron show whatever that was. There was a cool one about this chick that could touch her index finders together and freeze time. And talk to her alien dad through a crystal light box in the kitchen…

          • Kai

            That show sounds vaguely familiar but I can’t put my finger on it. As for Kirk Cameron, you’re probably not talking about Growing Pains, right? I know he had another one but it was obviously forgettable. That Growing Pains episode with a young Leonardo DiCaprio as a runaway left a strong impression on me, probably the only Growing Pain plot I actually remember. It blew my mind to discover many years later that was Leonardo DiCaprio. The late 80s and early 90s sure had their moments. Now we’re all grown up and hella jaded.

            Edit: Holy shit, Family Matters was a spin off of Perfect Strangers. Never knew that. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfect_Strangers_(TV_series)#Family_Matters

          • MonkeyMouth

            Yes, sir…. And someone referred to 21 Jump Street earlier…a young Johnny Depp!

          • Kai

            I always knew of Johnny Depp from 21 Jump Street. I didn’t realize that kid in Growing Pains was Leonardo DiCaprio though so it was a surprise to me when I first learned that.

            Speaking of 21 Jump Street, the recent movie was pretty good. I kinda went into it with low expectations because I really dislike that one actor, but it ended up being pretty entertaining.

          • noodles76

            Entertaining, yes. Good movie, no. Totally forgettable. I know I downloaded and watched it….I honestly cannot remember anything about it. Maybe I’m getting old and growing senile though.

          • Kai

            Hah, true, depending on semantics, yeah, not exactly a “good movie”. “Good” only as in it was entertaining and not something that prompted me to stop watching it because of how bad it was. I don’t remember much of the plot. I remember the cameo at the end and I remember something about chasing each other around in a park or something. That’s about it, so yeah, forgettable, but it could’ve been worse and it wasn’t. That was good enough for me.

          • moop

            “ That Growing Pains episode with a young Leonardo DiCaprio as a runaway left a strong impression on me” me too. especially the part where leo fellates allan thicke

          • Rick in China

            I think your memories have fused parts of Growing Pains and Basketball Diaries

          • noodles76

            Wasn’t that a show on Nickelodeon?

          • http://www.richardfordphotography.com/ Richard Ford

            What’s nickelodeon? It was on Channel 10. We had 3 channels in Canberra in the 80’s and early 90’s.

          • noodles76

            Out of This World

          • http://www.richardfordphotography.com/ Richard Ford

            That’s it!! The fun I’d of had in China if I could stop time whenever I wanted. I’d be “daking” people all the time!!

          • MonkeyMouth

            My Pet Monster

          • MonkeyMouth

            Its was on ABC i think….

          • MonkeyMouth

            Balki Bartokamus!!!!… he was good in that scene in Beverley Hills Cop….remember? haha.. “ACCHMEL..ACHMELL…Foley is here to see her….”

          • noodles76

            Of course…….Alf.

          • linette lee

            I like sci fic and Harry Potter type of movies so I did enjoy watching Charmed. The sister witches are pretty.
            China should make more ghost and supernatural type of dramas. It’s fun and scary to watch.

            http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130807165121/charmed/images/9/94/Charmed_4_sisters,_season_8.png

          • rollin wit 9’s

            You had me with Married with Children. Loved that show. But wth is this? Once you change the channel to this, that’s where I in all Al Bundy Fashion would leave you on the couch, all dressed up, sexy as hell and head to the fridge for a beer. :)

        • death_by_ivory

          Correct,the 90s was syrupy garbage.

          • MonkeyMouth

            ok…forgiven…;)

        • MonkeyMouth

          you got that right! 80’s were the golden age of tv shows.. dont forget Hill Street Blues, In the Heat of the Night, Sledgehammer (so fucking funny!) Hardcastle and AMcCormick, vintage Simpson’s (Ayn Rand Daycare center!!!) the lsit goes on and on and on…

          • noodles76

            Sweet Jesus….Sledgehammer was fucking great. It only ran for a short time though. I downloaded the series a couple years ago and…..couldn’t sit through it though. The things that 9 year old me thought were funny are not the same as 35 year old me.

        • moop

          what about “my two dads”? if that show existed today it would have a different connotation.

        • Zappa Frank

          please..watch them now..it gives douche chills. not taljing about the one of the man able to transform in animals or the other with a strange suit whose names, thanks god, i don’t remember anymore.

          • noodles76

            I have no idea what you mean.

            Either way, if I watched many of the shows I enjoyed in the 80’s now I would think likely them to be silly. And without doubt they were. Ditto with what we watch now. It’s all silly. It’s all entertainment and nothing more. As entertainment, the shows in the 80’s did not disappoint. I’d take the shows then over our current reality TV trend any day of the week.

        • linette lee

          I watch rerun old episodes of married with children on Youtube. It’s so funny. XD.
          They need to make a movie out of this with the same characters and outfits and hairstyle like they got stuck in the 80s living in 2014. So funny. Even the dog is funny.
          http://www.dogforums.com/attachments/general-dog-forum/6246d1221761440-buck-dog-married-children-buck_dog.jpg

      • FYIADragoon

        Woah, I was taking your opinion seriously above, until I saw this comment…

  • xuedi

    s it a subsidy for domestic shows or for street peddler that sell illegal US shows on CD’s?

  • Free Man

    Third post in a row about this subject. It slowly gets boring. What about the poisoned water incidents? There were two of them in the last 3 weeks, that I’ve heard of. It seems chinese care more about stupid TV shows than actual important stuff …

    • mr.wiener

      Thing is bro, this is about the most talked about subjects on the Chinese internet, apparently most Chinese netizins couldn’t give a half chewed pair of dingos kidneys about poisoned water…they are bored with it….but outraged the govt wants to take their favorite tv series.
      Human nature innit?

      • Kai

        It’s more like this is ONE of the more discussed topics online, not the only one. Probably not fair to say people don’t care about one thing just because they aren’t talking about it at the moment, or else we’d all be doomed. While I think Fauna is simply a Sheldon groupie, I think it’s kinda unfair to her when she panders to censorship topics only to be criticized for not covering poisoned water topics. It’s a big country, cS can’t cover it all.

    • ScottLoar

      Did you not note the comment above?

      “Is there nothing else more worth doing? Talk about a strange country/government. =.=”

      That is from a Chinese writer who would agree with you. I’m sure there are millions more.

  • Kevin

    I think China Smack might be sponsored by CBS.

    • mr.wiener

      Chance should be so fine a thing

  • Surfeit

    I need to be inside her.

    • Mighty曹

      You have to go…*knock, knock, knock… Penny…knock, knock, knock… Penny……

      • Surfeit

        ORRRRRR!!!!! “Does this smell like chloroform to you love?”

        • Mighty曹

          Bar napkin or rag? LOL

    • Stefan

      Meh…, not as good as Chinese girls…

      • http://yoursexycousinrex.tumblr.com/ Your Sexy Cousin Rex

        Chinese girls would kill themselves to be her, if their parents had never drowned them shorty after birth.

        • LaoShu

          touche !

        • AlexTJ

          If you have a brain, you can turn it on now.

      • Jahar

        because everything’s a comparison right? God, this has got to be the most annoying thing I encounter in China. The vast majority of chinese girls are ugly, boring, study bots. Also, they don’t know what they are doing in bed.

        • mr.wiener

          this is why i always saw myself as an educator when i was in china.

          • Paul Schoe

            Wiener, you made me laugh out loud

          • mr.wiener

            …not to mention an enthusiastic linguist.

      • Surfeit

        Whaaaaa?

        EDIT: Let’s not be so stupid as to forget the whole scope of women.

      • Zappa Frank

        yes, ALL chinese girls are better. i can sense a strong yellow fever in you.

    • MonkeyMouth

      who is she? that blonde bimbo….?

      • Surfeit

        Are those questions?

        • MonkeyMouth

          ya, dude…i honestly dont know who she is….

          • bprichard

            She’s the lead actress in The Big Bang Theory. I don’t know her name, but I’m sure IMDB can help.

          • Surfeit

            Kaley Cuoco.

    • Insomnicide

      No laugh track for this one.

  • http://www.richardfordphotography.com/ Richard Ford

    What I do find funny in all this is a thought that just came to me. A few months back in the China Town part of Sydney they was a massive hopper/skip on the side walk full of books being thrown out into the trash. English and Chinese ones. There was a crowd of people all over them sifting through and taking books home. I thought that was kinda cool – you know people wanting books and all. Then I noticed how there was not a single white person there looking for books. There were plenty about at the various pubs left and right of the skip downing their pints.

    I thought – gee that says it all about the cultures and the damage that has been instilled in Australia from too much nanny statism and entitlement mentality that has worked it’s way in from the useless baby boomers.

    But now – having read these stories here – I am thinking – is this also a symptom of what the govt may be afraid of? Kids/people dumbing themselves down by consuming too much TV, just like the week long CS cases in the internet cafes?

    I mean – is this at all possibly beneficial to the extent that people may end up being those that sift through the books in the trash versus those that drink themselves into the gutter?

    • ScottLoar

      I can only refer to a story that appeared on my China Wechat 18 April (and I translate from the Chinese) entitled “Worrisome: Chinese Who Don’t Read” (令人忧虑,不阅读的中国人) by an Indian author, noting that mainland Chinese read on average 0.7 books yearly as compared to Korea 7, Japan 40 and Russia 55. No figures were given for Australia.

      A phrase describing mainland Chinese youth habit of playing games on handheld devices at every moment opportune or otherwise is 低头族, as incisive as the Taiwan description of their younger generation as 草莓族 (and so easily bruised). I have read from many sources that mainland Chinese look to the internet for games and personal interaction while Americans (sorry, but that is the group commonly referenced) look to the internet for information.

      • Surfeit

        HAHAAAA!! I’ll mention that on WoW later.

      • Cameron

        Those figures don’t surprise me. Yeah theres a tiny subculture of studenty arty types in Beijing and Shanghai that you might occasionally see with the latest must read fiction, but I am generally speaking actually shocked on the few occasions I see a Chinese person reading a novel. I blame the education system – hardly fosters an enjoyment and appreciation of literature does it.

      • 白色纯棉小裤裤

        Every time I take the bus or the subway, I see many people reading books on their smartphones. I don’t know how someone get the Idea that “Chinese people Don’t Read”. Perhaps it’s because most Chinese readers have switched from reading traditional paper book to reading on their smartphones and computers. 网络小说-literatlly translated to “internet novels”, is a concept unique to Chinese. The best selling 网络小说 on qidian.com have more than 80 million hits, if you count pirate websites the figure can be 10-100 times larger.

        Use myself as an example, I read 0 tranditional paper books and 100+ electronic books last year, 10 of which are professional books in my field, the rest are mostly 网络小说.

        • ScottLoar

          Odd, every time I take the bus or the subway I see many people texting, gaming, talking, listening to tunes on their smartphones.

      • Dr Sun

        can you post links to those “many sources” please ?

        • ScottLoar

          Look up “Chinese internet activity” and go on from there. Also, look over the shoulders of those with bowed heads and see what they’re looking at on-line, and ask mainland Chinese you know how often the post on WeChat and similar as opposed to using the internet like a library to check up on sources or retrieve information. Also, look at the most popular and visited web sites in mainland China.

          • Dr Sun

            so you have no real links to these “many sources” of yours, just vague conjecture.

          • ScottLoar

            Look to the comments of Kaiser Kuo, Director of International
            Communications at Baidu and, no, I’m not going to do your homework for
            you.

  • Taoran

    This is the most interesting article about the whole TV series issue yet (although the photos once again have nothing to do with the topic whatsoever).
    I’m not in favor of censorship, but I’m in favor of doing things consistently if you do them. I’m surprised to read that until now, chinese movies and TV series had to be approved, foreign movies too, but not foreign TV series?! In this case, wasn’t it only a matter of time before this would happen? It sounds like foreign series really did have an unfair advantage in China…

    But on the other hand and to make fun of the censors, this comment is spot on:
    “That The Big Bang Theory has been banned but 2 Broke Girls is still alive [being broadcasted] proves that vulgarity is not the reason. That The Walking Dead is still around proves that explicit/graphic content harming psychological health is also not the reason […]”

    • lacompacida

      Doing things according to the wishes of the day of the officials of the day had been a very consistent pattern of Chinese governance. I had not changed since 1949. And this particular “change” is very consistent with that pattern.

  • Rick in China

    This is funny,

    “domestic films and shows face greater scrutiny which makes it harder for them to compete with foreign shows”

    Yes, that’s why. It has nothing to do with production quality, writing, acting, or topic.

    • http://www.richardfordphotography.com/ Richard Ford

      Personally they should focus more attention on the adverts on TV. All manners of doctors and quacks exposing treatments to make you taller, slimmer, whiter, bigger breasted, smarter, grow hair, etc…

      • Surfeit

        Stop watching TV!

      • Warren Lauzon

        HAHA… that is no kidding. Someone posted a bunch of China TV ads on YouTube, and 99% of them would never get past the legal issues in most countries.

    • Insomnicide

      While true, some domestic films which do have high quality are being clamped down by Hollywood films and American/Korean dramas because of popular premises. Although it’s not the majority, it does happen.

    • Warren Lauzon

      It has more to do with state censorship than anything else. Anyone that tries to do anything original or mentions democracy, freedom, or choice gets tossed in jail or exiled.

  • annabella

    I though korean “bangzi” dramas were very limited on chinese tv? was it not.

  • lacompacida

    Is this an issue for WTO ? Any way, I bet this will do wonders to the Chinese soft power.

    • Surfeit

      What is ‘soft power’?

      • KamikaziPilot

        You really don’t know what soft power if? You can google for a longer explanation but it’s basically a concept where instead of using force, you use other non-threatening means to influence people to do what you want or think like you. Think of American TV shows or media influencing people around the world.

      • Guang Xiang

        A good example is Korea. Who doesn’t know Korean products, dramas, and k-pop? Gangnam style performed at Times Square can be equated to a nuclear strike.

  • Mighty曹

    This must be a first on cS. 3 consecutive news stories relating to American TV shows.

    • KamikaziPilot

      Yeah, because you know how Chinese are obsessed with Americans and the West in general. I bet most couldn’t even name 4 countries in Africa. I really hope they don’t think all Americans are like those represented in TV shows. I still don’t know how “Friends” was so popular there. I bet most just watch it because it’s a popular American show. That show is nauseating and not funny at all.

      • Gordon Gogodancer

        i never understood any jokes in Friends….i thought i was so boring.

        • MonkeyMouth

          FRIENDS blew…..

      • FYIADragoon

        To be fair, I doubt many people could. Aside from raiding their resources, Africa is the epitome of insignificant.

        • KamikaziPilot

          Not sure about many people not being able to name 4 countries in Africa but agree that on the world stage Africa is insignificant. However, even socially with no financial benefit, Chinese almost never want to associate with anyone other than other Chinese or whites or maybe other Asians. They’re just conditioned to think that way. Some of them don’t even know there are Asians that speak English as a first language.

      • http://www.youtube.com/user/VictimOfBoredom Matt

        Gonna have to strongly disagree with you about Friends.
        I don’t see how any contemporaneous Anglophone could think that show isn’t hilarious. Perhaps you simply haven’t given it a fair chance by following the show from the very beginning.

        (Sorry, I just had to interject. FWIW, I can also name all the countries of Africa.)

        • KamikaziPilot

          Agree to disagree. I’ve probably only watch about 30 minutes total of Friends on a few different occasions, but being it’s a comedy, I think that’s enough time for me to decide if it’s funny or not. I can see shows like Lost or Prison Break where you’d be lost if you didn’t follow from the beginning but for comedies I usually only give it a few minutes and then decide whether it’s worth my time. I guess humor is really subjective.

          I can’t name all the countries in Africa, maybe half, but that’s still better than most Chinese.

        • Mighty曹

          One of the all time best shows ever!
          Plus, Rachel was hot.

          • http://www.youtube.com/user/VictimOfBoredom Matt

            *high five*

            I was all about Monica, to be honest.

          • Mighty曹

            *double high 5’s
            I was into Monica too! (I never thought turtle necks, albeit tight ones, could be so sexy).

      • Mighty曹

        I liked ‘Friends’. The humor was sophisticated unlike ‘Seinfeld’, which was ridiculous.
        *I can name most countries by continents, plus its capital cities. :D

        • KamikaziPilot

          Oh well, guess we all have different senses of humor, Seinfeld was actually one of my favorite sitcoms, actually the only one I watched regularly. I think I may have seen every episode. I guess I like ridiculous humor where I don’t have to think. That’s impressive if you can name most countries and their capital cities, especially since the capitals aren’t always the biggest or most famous cities.

          • Mighty曹

            Not saying I didn’t like Seinfeld but I just found the characters to be not believable (hence ridiculous). I can’t imagine someone like Kramer that actually exists.
            Yeah I always had a big interest in geography since elementary school. There was one of those big globes in class and I always spin it to see where it stops.

  • linette lee

    Maybe if they start making quality dramas and shows instead of copying everything from other countries, they will actually have more rating. China can do more sci fi dramas or shows. Discovery channels.

    • Surfeit

      Sooner or later I think they will. Some right creative souls in this country. Just gotta give them the platform to develop and express themselves. C’mon China, you can do it! No more street pee, more good TV!!

      • nqk123

        Creativity is not the problem, chinese government is. Many good ideas got killed by censoring agency. To air tv and movies, writers have to avoid areas where they think the agency does not like. It certainly limit their ability to produce good shows. Just my opinion

        • Surfeit

          “Just gotta give them the platform to develop and express themselves. “

    • KamikaziPilot

      Good comment linette, I assume you’re taking a lot of fish oil to nurture your brain.

      • linette lee

        China has the budget to do big sci fi movies and dramas, but I think there is a lack of access for the truly talented people. Like how do you become a director or TV show producers in China? Through connection and not through skills or talents or education right. In USA you have all these no name directors doing small budget films and win academy awards. Spielberg started with a home camera.

        • Lei Feng’s Hat

          Fun Fact…

          Why don’t Chinese Directors jump on the money-making band wagon and start making modern day super-hero movies?

          Because, essentially a super-hero movie is always saying one key thing: The government cannot handle the problem. Thus the need for Spider-Man or Batman or Iron Man or Elastic Man to jump in and save the day.

          So, sorry China, no home produced super-hero blockbusters for you. The government is never going to allow a scenario where a caped and cowled Iron Baijiu Man is going to swoop down from tall buildings and save the day.

          • Mony Xie

            Fun Fact…

            Sci-fi ≠ Superhero

          • Lei Feng’s Hat

            Yes…

            There are no elements of science fiction in Super Hero movies.
            The science in Super Hero movies is all science fact.

            Thanks for dropping by, Mr. stark.

        • Warren Lauzon

          China does not allow Sci-Fi shows and movies, they are censored as being “superstition”.

          What is funny is that I just read an article about how all the commie bigwigs that are ripping off billions by corruption are all very superstitious.

    • noodles76

      Didn’t China ban shows that referenced time travel a few years ago? No Cosmos for China….

      • Warren Lauzon

        Yes, that is one of many themes that they banned.

  • Connor

    “Not long ago, many domestic film and television industry professionals voiced the same complaint: Domestic films and television shows need to face strict government review/censorship, but at the same time, the foreign films or television shows on the internet essentially face nothing in terms of government auditing/censorship. This makes it unfair when it comes to competition, with domestically produced films and television shows “losing at the starting line” as a result [domestic films and shows face greater scrutiny which makes it harder for them to compete with foreign shows].”

    Ha! Domestic shows competing with American shows! Good one.

    • noodles76

      It’s a fair remark. Chinese shows do in fact lose before the starting line…and during the race as well but that’s not the point. They had 2 choices….relax control over domestic content or enact harsher controls on foreign content. Which do you think would be more beneficial or less harmful to those in power?

      • Connor

        I still think the american shows will be more popular than chinese after being censored. Mainly due to the fact that the american shows have better overall stories and plots unlike the typical chinese shows on TV.

        • noodles76

          I wonder what will be their excuse when even after foreign shows are censored…..they are still more enjoyable to watch than local content.

  • KamikaziPilot

    “Why is it blocking American TV shows instead of having domestic producers work harder at making shows viewers like? So they’re not letting others broadcast their shows just because they themselves can’t make good ones? What kind of logic is this?”

    Best Chinese comment of the bunch. Instead of making foreign TV harder to watch, which will only make people want to watch it more, just step up your game and try being creative and figure out what consumers really want to watch. On another note, I wouldn’t be surprised if many Chinese actually believe these shows are an accurate representation of American society.

    • Warren Lauzon

      The problem in China is not creativity, it is the censorship by the CCP, which does not allow hundreds of themes and ideas in movies and shows.

  • Stefan

    The girl there is showing too much skin to be approved on Chinese TV.

    • IsurvivedChina

      How about now? Too much skin? I thought so! Silly me!

      • YourSupremeCommander

        Not enough!

        • Surfeit

          HELLOOO!

          • YourSupremeCommander

            why my pict got deleted, one must asked the mod, aka the Wong Fong Dong.

          • Dr Sun

            one can only assume that posting a pic of your gentalia violates site rules.

          • YourSupremeCommander

            Yes, it would, because it wouldn’t fit onto the confines of your average web browser window. But then again, it would attract huge traffic here like crazy, causing it to go down within seconds.

          • Dr Sun

            LOL

        • IsurvivedChina

          nice!

  • A Gawd Dang Mongolian

    I think the problem is less that Western shows take up all the views, and more that local shows just suck. Maybe instead of removing the competition they can make local programming suck less?

    I know that means actually working but maybe then there won’t be a need to remove competition.

    • Warren Lauzon

      The local shows and China produced movies really DO suck for the most part. But the CCP’s answer is not to give the writers and producers more freedom, it is to block more foreign content.

  • WFH

    western cultural subversion needs to be checked…

  • Cameron

    In what universe are boobs vulgar?

    • noodles76

      The same universe where things flying into your fact has meaning.

  • Cameron

    If it was mere protectionism of the domestic creative industry, I wouldn’t support it in this instance, but could understand it. However, I think this is fundamentally more about controlling minds of young impressionable people. Chinese kids should think in a “Chinese way” and have “Chinese values” and US shows are seen as a threat to this.

  • Francisco De Vitoria

    Penny is beautiful but i wouldn’t marry her

    • noodles76

      Have no fear, I doubt any halfway decent looking woman with an iota of self respect would be interested in you. You’re safe from having to make such choices.

  • Zen my Ass

    Fortunately, prohibitions never prevented people from doing what they want. People will keep on surviving despite their government.

  • Fonpi

    Have you noticed that State Administration for Radio, Film, and Television [SARFT]
    is an anagram of [FARTS] ?

    • MonkeyMouth

      that comment stinks….

  • Cameron

    Aren’t they scared of the backlash with the US banning all the subtitlled Chinese Japanese war and Imperial Palace Dramas? Oh No!!!

  • MonkeyMouth

    One time, i was actually watching tv here in china, and they were airing an old Police Academy movie. forget which one…. but there was the scene with the academy prez, and howard hesseman’s character in a japanese restaurant. the kind where the chef cooks at your table…anyway….the japanese chef is there cooking, and the poor crazy police chief brought his goldfish, and accidentally placed it on the grill. anyone remember this movie..? so the goldfish gets boiled alive, and the chef asks if they want him to cut up the fish to eat it “you want stir fry?” i think is the line…. hesseman’s character says something (cant remember)…but the SUBTITLES said something along the lines of “you god damn japanese devil…mind your own fucking business”
    absolutely true story. and to me, it explains the article, if only symbolically

  • FYIADragoon

    Hopefully they don’t touch Arrow…Seeing as the show’s point is fighting corrupt figures…

    And maybe if China actually nurtured quality entertainment, they wouldn’t have to ban overseas content to keep their own competitive…. I can count on my hands the number of entertaining domestic TV shows that I’ve seen over the years.

    • Zappa Frank

      haha arrow is terrible… is the worst tv serie i’ve seen so far

      • FYIADragoon

        The only time I haven’t been bothered by a real life rendition of a superhero has been Arrow though….I watched all the older TV series growing up, and Arrow seems to hit all of its marks the best. Never could stand the Green Arrow before this series. Don’t know how they’re going to do Flash though.

      • moop

        i’ve seen much worse. agents of shield i think is worse. besides the obvious game of thrones, i regularly watch the blacklist and brooklyn 99…. the tv rendition of fargo seems pretty good, but i’ve only seen one episode. still waiting for Rectify’s second season… its right up there with true detective in terms of being one of the most beautifully shot shows in the history of TV

  • BJ

    You are right but I do reckon that nowadays there are no real Marxist, there are only people who want more and more power. Marxist ideology is their halibi, they just want to be stronger than other countries/cultures because this is not the right application of Marx’s ideology. It’s like the interpretation of koran made by talebans….what they say has nothing to do with the holy book. Do you get my point?
    Here they want to preserve chinese culture but they didn’t realize that they already destroy it because after all, also shushu Xi likes CAPITALISM. What all politicians are doing is sad because it’s all about THEIR fight for power and it regards ALL countries and all their politicians who contribute to boost racism among normal people which instead would enjoy to know more about other cultures and living together peacefully. They simply created a contest to point out which culture is stronger, which is the best culture and dear me…ignorant people are accepting this.

  • Alex

    yup she’s hot

    • mr.wiener

      More like the “Big boob theory”. To those folks flagging this as inappropriate please press the minus sign in the top right hand corner to collapse it.

      • hess

        I wouldn’t really call those “big”..

        • noodles76

          She does nothing for me. Sure, I would not kick her out of bed but…..she’s nothing to drool over.

        • mr.wiener

          Ahh. Swedes huh?

  • Foreign Devil

    My favorite comment was this one:
    “A certain parent sees that their own son is both ugly and stupid, so they take a knife and hack to death the good-looking children of other families, then tells their own son that he is the best! Stupid cunt logic!”

  • Kai

    To be clear, Baidu was already No.1 (by a large margin) when Google left.

  • KamikaziPilot

    Then shallow comedy must also be popular in the US too. I still think Friends are popular in China mainly because it’s popular in the US and it fits many Chinese ideal of what the US is like (ex. white yuppies living in NYC). I can’t tell you how much I hate that stupid song that plays at the beginning of the show.

  • don mario

    free market baby! china is capitalist!

  • jon9521

    Maybe we should ban CCTV-English from our air waves. It seems that the Chinese feel a level playing field is where all foreign companies and media are banned or sued while they expect open arms for their companies here

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  • Warren Lauzon

    One funny comment I read on another blog by a Chinese mainland poster was “They are still showing Game of Thrones, but they took all the plot parts out and just left the sex and killing parts in”.

  • hehehehh

    oh penny…

    *fap *fap fap

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    Use Tor, get a set of updated exit nodes, hop on Kat.ph, demonoid, the pirate bay, or for streaming icefilms.info and bypass restrictions! Use VPN will also work

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