Chinese Fishing Boat Captain Released By Japanese, Reactions

Look at those wacky eyes – this guy is some thing. The game just started, lets see what turns out.

I thought fujianers only good at human smuggling, didn’t know they fish as well. Oh yea, fishing at Diao-yu-tai “fishing-platform” island !! No mistake here!!!

Complete Bullshit. Fishermen are the nongmin of the sea. Only thing he knows is what he learns in school and what govt spoon feeds him every day. Knowing this, is it really so hard for some Chinese to believe that he RAMMED the Japanese boats?

Notice on the news here in China, you only hear “collision” which takes away any motive. Some actually think the Japanese rammed the fishing boat. Blindly following the govt sponsored news reports. This is the value of slandering the “Western media” (AKA every other country’s media)in the past. Chinese will start to only believe CCP news reports are legit.

Of course arresting the boat captain had no legal basis, but did intentionally ramming two Japanese vessels? If i hit two people in my home, is it right because its my house? But this is what happened and what so many Chinese refuse to believe it or don’t care. They only care about the result of the captain’s violence.

If there was an investigation into what caused the arrest of the fishing captain, i guarantee you China would not like the result. Just like North Korea didn’t like it.

If the Japanese somehow let the captain return home right after hitting their ships, he would return a hero. Instead, he saw the consequences of his actions and instead of understanding the circumstances, a bunch of Chinese started waving the flag instead of seeing Japan’s point of view.

Can you imagine if a Japanese fishing boat started ramming Chinese boats. Some Chinese would be livid. But Japan isn’t supposed to be angry and instead accept that getting hit by another boat (Twice) is allowed. Only China is allowed to be upset? Time for China to stop playing the victim card and accept that being Chinese does not make China automatically right, just as being American does not make what America does right.

In this case, the Japanese did not act without reason. They were attacked and had to defend themselves. Just because China says they are peaceful does not mean every citizen is.

That guy just looks like a guy that doesn’t drive carefully at all and crashes into things.

The Chinese find a scroll or coin with Chinese writing on it a couple miles off the coast of Vietnam, Malaysia, Indonesia or Brunei and there’s proof that it once belonged to China (and therefore in an inalienable part of the Motherland).

I guess a lot of people don’t follow events outside of Asia… Most arrests made over territorial disputes end with a quick, unconditional release regardless of pressure or diplomacy. I doubt they would’ve ever kept him for trial or imprisonment.

Solve the problem of territorial disputes of east asian islands (diaoyu/senkaku, dokdo/takeshima, etc.) by destroying them with large amounts of conventional explosives.

reading all of this, i thought i’d post the same thing again for arguments sake:

The Senkaku Islands comprise five small volcanic islands and three rocky outcroppings with a total land area of just seven square kilometres. They were first discovered and mapped by Japanese explorers and finally were formally incorporated into Japanese territory in 1895. A number of surveys have been conducted on the islands, and no trace of any previous habitation or prior ownership has ever been found. Since 1895, the islands have continuously remained as an integral part of the Japan’s territory.

In 1895, China and Japan also jointly signed the Treaty of Shimonoseki, in which the Emperor of China stated that: “China cedes to Japan in perpetuity and full sovereignty of the Penghu group, Taiwan and the eastern portion of the bay of Liaodong Peninsula together with all fortifications, arsenals and public property.” The Chinese now claim that the Treaty of Shimonoseki wasn’t fair, and refuse to recognise it today. They now claim that all the bits they ceded away are still theirs, regardless of the fact that they ceded them away in an internationally-recognised document. By their reckoning, therefore, the Senkaku islands are still part of China. Except, and here’s the kicker, that the Senkaku Islands were never part of the Pescadores group of islands that were ceded to Japan in the first place. As a result of this small and inconvenient truth, the Senkaku Islands were not included in the territory which Japan renounced under Article II of the 1952 Francisco Peace Treaty. They were instead placed under the administration of the United States as part of the Nansei Shoto Islands, in accordance with Article III of that treaty, with the United States later handing administrative rights back to Japan.

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I miss Chairman Mao. When he was running China, he kept it poor and backwards. The modern, developed countries of the world didn’t have to deal with China at that time. Now that China has had a resurgence, the Chinese are trying to avenge every event that “hurts the feelings of the Chinese people.”

Bring back another Chairman Mao!

Hmm, the publications of these victory photographs is not a very good idea. The captain should have been whisked away on arrival, away from the media spotlight until this whole business has died down. There is a far too much at stake between China and Japan for this dispute to be inflated beyond reasonable proportions.

Having said that, these photographs are not as half as stupid as the Japanese government’s decision to arrest and detain the captain of the fishing boat, without thinking through the consequences of their action. Surely they must have anticipated that the Chinese government could not take this lying down, as this would have implied acceptance of Japanese sovereignty over the disputed islands.

Instead, we have seen the Japanese government take a face-losing but pragmatic decision to climb down and release the captain. It was inevitable, as Japan had far too much to lose over the detention of one man. Foreign Minister Maehara should have learnt an expensive lesson from this debacle – irrespective of who is in the right, never pick a fight that you cannot finish.

i have seen several pictures (chinese and western media) of the boats after the collission and it is quite clear that it was the chiense fishing trawler that rammed the japanese naval vessels. the chinese boat did not show any damage on its sides (port or star board) while at least one japansese boat sustained damage on its side. based on normal ship sterring, the japanese boats were probably trying to drive away or block the chinese vessel and the latter decided to ram it or could not steer away in time to avoid collission.

diaoyutai is in territorial dispute therefore, chinese nval and fishing vessels normally steer clear. the current chinese administration has a stated policy of not stoking the diayutai territorial claim and therefore, you do not see chinese naval vessels harrassing or confronting japanese vessels. in fact, both chiense and taiwanese governments do not allow activists to visit the diaoyutai area.

this chinese fisherman decided that money making was more important and decided to take the risk to fish there, hence we have this outcome. patriotism and nationalism aside, this is an incident that the current chinese administration is keen to avoid. the Hu-Wen administration has bigger fish to fry. i think the administration handled this incident well under the incendiary circumstances while the “new” japanese government has fumbled badly. in this incident, nobody won. both sides are wise to keep it cool in the aftermath.

diaoyutai is really a very small fry for the chinese government – a small collection of volcanic rocks. it can barely be considered as “islands” and is naturally inhospitable. with global warming and rising seawaters, it will be underwater in a matter of time. like i said, there are “bigger fish” to fry elsewhere.

the issue is kept alive as a foreign policy tool aimed at containing japan whenever the need arises. oil & gas is only secondary as commercially proven reserves are indetermined and deep sea exploration is very expensive and dangerous. there are easier and cheaper places for CNOOC to explore. furthermore, 50 years from today, petroleum will be the energy of the past so why fight over it today?

china get $1.2 billion aid from japan, better take care i would say

Can someone, maybe Fauna, explain what the third comment from the bottom means to say?

“Normal posts are all deleted. [Yet] SB posts all get approved.”

China is celebrating like they accomplished something.

China better celebrate this apparent “win” occasion while it last because this is will be the closest you will ever come to acquiring Senkaku from Japan.

China may think they won something here but what Beijing and the super-nationalists won was a consensus among its neighbors that China is really dangerous, unstable and unreliable. China is getting increasingly pushy, arrogant and unreasonable and this is bad news for everyone – including China.

Is it customary in contemporary China to declare victory boldly as soon as ariive home after giving his people worries and cares about him all over the world? If one respects Confucianism as well as the Golden Rules, East or West, that kind of attitude is obviosly considered arrogant and selfish. Otherwise, was he on some mission or something from the very beginning?

Let the man alone with his twenty five seconds of fame. It’s the most he’ll ever get.

Lol @ the Chinese reactions, as usual.

As for the Korean nationalists who can’t resist making snide comments: for a country whose extremists slaughter animals and set themselves on fire to protest Japan, you sure can talk. We’re just waiting for the next incident over Tsushima/Daemado to pop up. Popcorn in hand, naturally.

WHAT A SHAMELESS HERO, smiling after bringing such an embarrassment to Heavenly Kingdom, Beijing has to play dirty to get him free, SHAME SHAME SHAME ON CHINESE