Wenzhou High-Speed Train Crash Aftermath: 5 Most Viewed Videos

Excavators moving the wrecked traincars from the 2011 July 23 Wenzhou high speed train collision.

Videos of the Wenzhou high-speed train accident are amongst the most viewed videos on popular Chinese video sharing website Youku today, as they are posted and circulated on many of China’s major internet news portals like China.com, discussion forums like Tianya, and social networks such as Sina Weibo and RenRen.

From Youku:

Train crash follow-up: Wreckage being buried on the spot, yet another victim discovered

This morning, handling of the Wenzhou train collision aftermath remained tense, and at the site of the accident, train car wreckage were seen apparently being buried, and yet another victim was discovered.

A copy on YouTube:

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The above video has been viewed over 1.9 million times so since it was uploaded yesterday and is currently in the #1 most viewed position on Youku. In the video, at 0:09, a dead body supposedly can be seen falling from the wrecked train car being taken down from the bridge. A woman can be heard screaming. Another dead body is supposedly visible at 2:52.

From Youku:

Youku Paike arrives at the scene of the Wenzhou train collision, the brave rescues of the local resident who was first on the scene

Last night, trains collided in Wenzhou territory, and local villages rushed to save lives. Youku Paike [amateur photographer or videographer] obtained an exclusive interview with the very first villager to arrive on the scene. He says he witnessed the initial scene, and successfully rescued over 10 people.

A copy on YouTube:

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This video has over 1.4 million views since being uploaded yesterday and is the third most viewed video presently on Youku. At the beginning of the video are nighttime images of the collision site, with uniformed rescuers resting on the ground. Later in the video, the shirtless villager who claims to have been the first person to arrive at the scene of the crash responds that his home is nearby, that he placed the eight people he rescued at a nearby intersection. He also answers that their injuries were not very serious because if they were, how could he have managed to pull them out and carry them away? Some had broken hands or feet, and five of the eight he rescued were children: four girls, one boy. He also says no one in the first train car had died but there were more fatalities in the second train car.

From Youku:

Survivor tearfully recalls the incident, her protecting her daughter showing the greatness of a mother’s love

A Youku Paike who arrived at the Wenzhou Kangning Hospital where some of the survivors were being treated saw a brave mother who wrapped herself tightly around her daughter at the moment of disaster, saving her daughter.

This third video has over 625k views. All three of the above videos were uploaded by the same “种瓜的豆” user.

From Youku:

Thousands of ordinary people line up throughout the night to donate blood to help the wounded

The above short video, also currently in Youku’s Top 20 most viewed videos, has over 425k views since yesterday. The videographer interviews a young man from Guizhou who came with some friends to donate blood at but is still waiting for his turn having waited 5-6 hours already. The taxi fare was 140 RMB, whereas he earns under 100 RMB per day.

From Youku:

Rushing to save the injured at the base hospital for the train accident

This short 36 second video simply shows a scene in the hospital where injured passengers were taken. It has over 365k views and is also currently in Youku’s Top 20.

The two videos above were uploaded by user “犀利眼”.

  • eddie9684

    sad story but … SOFA!!!!

    • Just John

      Hope your sofa wasn’t on the train…

      • eddie9684

        nope it wasnt.. heh

    • eddie9684

      I am wondering how can this happen? with all the technology and stuff….

      • Just John

        Easy, poorly implemented technology.

        It is more about the race to get it up, and not about the race to get everything safe.

        The technology used is more about the trains, and less about the railway systems.

        No sensors, no safety lights, no monitoring.
        Other countries implement tracking systems, switches and stop lights, and other things that will prevent this, but they are in the rush with the advanced technology without knowing all the other issues, which is why people are questioning their engineering maturity in railways and implementing this kind of system.

        • Capt. WED

          Actually signalling circuits in transportation that is almost fail-safe in transportation is old hat. While I don’t know what happened exactly, accidents they do happen (negligence at control stations; freak accidents they do happen; nothing is 100% fail-safe). On the other hand, we know how a lot of things work in China so I wouldn’t be surprised (Japanese bullet trains has 0 fatalities in 40 years). Also these trains are not the Shanghai-Beijing train, they’re not the newest types of trains. I think they’re first generation imported trains. These travel at 100mph, I think.

          I just have to leave it at that because I really don’t know much about this… just know that freak accidents happen…but China also is fucked up. LOL.

          • Capt. WED

            I mean it’s a tragic accident. No laughing matter.

        • Graeme

          I travelled to Wenling on the D3115 last Thurday. It reached 253Kph on that trip, based on German designs. The section from Hangzhou to Ningbo was regular slow train tavel but from there to Fuzhou, it travels on a dedicated high speed line where the accident happened between Wenling and Wenzhou. Both trains are managed by separate Railway Bureaus and thus tracked differently to each other. The signalling errors and faults should never have happened. Fundamental problems exist in the basic systems underpinning high speed rail in China. Purely electrical failsafes that do not work in a power outage is verging on being criminal in the circumstances of this accident.

    • Cool Matt

      I know, such a terrible story. Too bad you were too concerned about being the first poster to actually care to read it.

      • eddie9684

        i actually found about it yesterday already… hot news like that should have been on all famous chinese newspapers front pages, but guess not.

        they were mostly on local newspapers front pages only.

        • ChinaPrat

          I think Cool Matt was talking about your sofa boner. Everyone obsesses over it, write stupid comments, THEN read the article and leave a sensible comments.

          • eddie9684

            Gosh, whatever.. people can suck on my sofa boner if they want to.

    • ShanghaiBC

      You’re kidding right?

      Whilst you walk away from your PC, proudly adding ‘Sofa-King’ to your personal resume’ list of lifetime achievements. There are many who will either return from their weekend trip; badly injured, without a loved one or, not returning at all.

      Please give some thought to what you type.

      • eddie9684

        i kid you not sir… and whatever, its not like i typed some inhuman shit, do not be so mad about an internet thing.

        • Appalled@everything

          The sofa-boner you got for being first -
          Was it really for being first?
          Or for seeing yourself in the mirror flexing your tiny body?
          Or for watching the xiaojie suck your puny member and imagining you are overpowering her?
          Or for being too cool to care about human tragedy?
          Or for enjoying the suffering of others and thinking it is clever to be above it?
          Or for being such a loser that being the sofa seat-taker is the only thing in your life close to a success?
          Or for perhaps thinking that you are just too special to accept that the first comment you might have left on this forum should have been one of condolence and sympathy.

          You are a worthless pox.

          • eddie9684

            such a long comment for someone who just said sofa on the first comment, and no to answer all your questions above.

            get a life ffs, i didnt say i was happy that it happened, also i dont know why you guys take it so serious about the sofa thing, i mean no one even takes this website seriously.

      • KfU

        Hi ShanghaiBC,

        I thought I recognized the handle…

        You were guest speaker at the Oslo PC-Brigade Conference in 2009, right?

        Oh, I can’t remember the title of your presentation now… something like “Never miss your chance to take the moral high-ground”… something like that…. anyway, great speech and great comment…

        • ShanghaiBC

          KfU
          - I don’t intend to take a moral high-ground. Just thought that there’s a time and place to be blase about things.

          eddie9684
          - I’m not ‘mad’. I was also on a train to Wenzhou on Saturday (I arrived hours earlier) and so this event is a bit too close-to-home. I’m just saying, just think twice before being irreverent online as you just don’t know who reads.

          If you don’t do it in real-life, why suddenly be lacking in conscious once behind a screen? I’m sure you’re an alright guy in real-life, just think-twice, that’s all.

          • Just John

            How do you know he doesn’t in real life?

            Maybe when the train accident happened, if he was near, he would run to the nearest seat that got flung from the wrecked trains, sit down, and shout a glorious “Sofa, I was here first!”.

            I mean, comon, wouldn’t we all?

            PS. The internet is serious business, and we should take it as such……
            sheeeeeesh…. Not like he came on here and started with “Serves them right, blah blah, for xyz reasons”…..
            It’s a story, on the internet, not a real life busted up train sitting physically in front of you….

          • ShanghaiBC

            Just John – I try to be optimistic about humanity and put this down to ‘internet culture’. Though I’m sure there are some who probably would turn up at the scene and claim ‘sofa’ first…

          • Just John

            Actually, isn’t one of the videos pretty much someone doing just that?

            I mean, he didn’t say sofa, but if you notice “Brave resident who was first on the scene”.

            I can almost see the sofa…

            Man in interview, “Yes, I was here first, I got sofa, then I got real and started rescuing people. I saved over 10 people after my sofa was claimed.”

          • ShanghaiBC

            Yeah, I can see what you mean…

            Though if he was there and did help out, then props to him, even if it was carrying stumbling people to a safer area – it goes against the ‘stand n stare’ approach most take in China.

  • thunderkat211

    People lining up to give blood is absoultely pointless.
    Admirable but pointless.

    • Tommy

      Remember it happened during 9/11. The Red Cross needed the blood, but almost none of it went to 9/11 victims because almost all were killed and not just injured.

    • Sunshine

      How so? What with 200 or more reported injured yesterday alone, I’m sure blood transfusions are necessary.

  • staylost

    So sad. When I first heard about it I was worried friends of mine might have been killed as many people I knew were traveling by high speed train in Zhejiang that day. Luckily for them, they weren’t on that line.

    Too bad someone still has to be unlucky though. I think we all know about how much money that might’ve been used for safety testing just disappears. I hope the government is able to use this as a case study for good enough not being good enough. I’m glad they’ve at least started to attack some of the corrupt party members.

  • Danny

    Got hit by a lighting? God knows what’s up.

    • ChinaPrat

      You’re a moron.

    • anon

      This is far more offensive than a sofa comment, and only one person has jumped on it so far? Disappointing.

      • Just John

        This is completely unacceptable.

        Are you claiming God is punishing them?
        Next you will say the earthquakes and blizzards and flooding and everything is God’s way of punishing some Chinese for their supposed misdirection that only you have privy to.

        Next you will compare their situation to the Japanese and how Americans were saying it was divine retribution for pearl harbor.

        You will probably insinuate something about China’s lack of morals because of IP issues, greed, and a general Sodom and Gomorrah syndrome, Sodom and Gomorrah right?

        Finally you will round out with some asshattery about how all Chinese abuse kittens in puddles, kill and cook puppies, and generally worship Satan.

        You, sir, are a moron.

        How was that anon? Good enough?
        Meh….trololol, just a trollish day.

  • Koreansentry

    The actual problem is not their Japanese train technology or quality, it’s Han Chinese attitude. They have no safety precaution, China’s infrastructure starting from Hospitals to telecommunication systems all have problems because there’s no safety. RIP for these dead ones.

  • GodsHammer

    Of course they tried to bury the faulty train. They’re trying to sell this complete rail system package to the Brazilians and Venezuelans! This is a huge glitch in the sales pitch!!!
    It’s foreign technology that they aren’t able to implement properly yet…for myriad reasons, yet they are trying to sell it already in true HAN fashion. Good thing trains don’t have tires, or we’d all be fucked for real.

    • Chad

      The trains have already been delivered to Brazil… nevermind them “trying to sell it” as you put it.

      Good thing train accidents don’t happen in developed countries. Oh wait…

  • Leo

    China, when are you going to get the damn message, you cannot compromise on the health and safety of your people, why do you keep trying to look the shit by competing with ‘your version’ which is essentially built out of crackers and shellac?

    It worked in the past for things like toothbrushes but it does NOT work for high speed trains, k?

    Perhaps this concept is too advanced for you. We’re waiting.

    • Chad
      • http://westiseast.co.uk westiseast

        I agree Chad – accidents happen everywhere, and safety systems in any situation are not perfect. Similarly, engineers and politicians can be to blame in any country for basic mistakes, this isn’t a Chinese thing. The UK has had train accidents in the past due to engineering problems.

        What most people should rightly be angry about is that (a) there were numerous similar incidents the weeks before which indicated that there was a serious problem, and nothing was done, and (b) even now that an accident has happened, lack of transparency and honesty means that nothing will get done to improve systems and processes.

        • anon

          Great comment, westiseast.

        • vic2u

          “lack of transparency and honesty means that nothing will get done to improve systems and processes.”

          What?

          It took over a full year to investigate the Toyota break system problem and why it doesn’t work properly.

          You think CSI is on the job?

          • Just John

            Sure, and?
            When we are on the japanSMACK forums, and reading the Toyota story, we will ask them too why there was no transparency.

            I don’t think anyone is claiming China is the only one with the problem. In fact, westiseast specifically pointed out others problems. He is just referring to this particular instances problems, not every single problem of every single country and company and individual and goat and tire and…….

            Get the point yet?

            PS. I love you!!!! Marry me!!! I will carry your 4 ugly kids in my anus for you!!! I will follow you from post to post, professing my undying love, and never leave you until you admit you love me and want me to be with you forever and ever.

  • KfU

    Sad story… but not unexpected… read many articles about safety concerns pertaining to the high-speed rail system… and it isn’t the first accident.

    Also, I don’t think it matters whether CNR or CSR stole the original technology for the D-Class trains from Siemens, Bombardier, or Kawasaki . . . The Chinese are masters of reverse engineering… and I think as part of the original JV agreements they had all the designs and P&Ps… and they’ve been able to use the millions spent on R&D by those other companies to good affect…

    From what info has been released so far… mixed with general assumptions… one can say that the accident wasn’t down to technical failure… because any technical failure that took place causing the accident (lightening causing train to lose power) would be covered by standard safety and emergency protocols… Train stops, lights flash in control room, control room contacts train, warns other trains to slow or stop… or something slightly more technical, but essentially along those lines… jeez – even non technical… train driver calls control room on mobile, tells them he’s stopped, control room warns other trains…

    The accident, i would suggest is down to human error… either they didn’t implement the necessary safety systems, didn’t have robust emergency protocols, or the guy in the control room was AWOL… Just another person not doing their job properly… an everyday event here… they have scanning machines at every subway station – but they let the guy with the rucksack on his back walk past without being checked without saying a word… it’s always the guy with the rucksack, ffs… always!

    • Ray

      Thats the thing with reverse engineering eh?

      Like they can get the design and all that so they can replicate it, but any changes to that design they’ll have no idea what influences it’ll have on the overall performance of the product.

      • Chad

        The involved trains are older generation trains built under license in JV plants in cooperation with Bombardier and Kawasaki. The train that the Germans and Japanese accuse of being copycats is the newer generation one (CRH380A).

      • anon

        Say what you want about reverse engineering but I think if you think about it, every innovation in this world involves reverse engineering, learning from emulating, standing on the shoulders of those before you.

        I also think you’re kind of missing KfU’s point, one I think he went at length to emphasize, which is that this accident more likely has to do with human error and not technical failure that may or may not be inherent in the Chinese application of foreign technology.

  • Tommy

    A few weeks ago, I met a Chinese engineer who build the high speed railways. He said he worked on the Shanhai to Beijing route and personally didn’t think it would ever be able to run at the speed the government wanted and he also said it wasn’t safe.

    • donscarletti

      I’m a senior engineer working for a Chinese company. Here’s how it works:
      -Some “visionary” who is essentially completely unversed in the field comes up with a set of “requirements” that you are to fulfill. This includes a timeframe, and seemingly very arbitrary parameters.
      -The engineer goes out and fulfills the requirements to the letter, whether the requirements are correct or achievable or not, the engineer either does not care, or simply is powerless to change.

      Someone very powerful and very ambitious asked for that train that goes 350km/h, the engineer cannot say no, because it is his job to build it. And he cannot explain the problem to the person requesting it, because the one making the decision is unlikely to be much of a critical thinker, otherwise it is doubtful that they could be in such a position.

      So what does the engineer do? He builds the train, and finally the train is built, it goes at the advertised speed following all of the parameters given and it is signed off. The parameters never mentioned safety beyond some arbitrary requirements that were either un-testable or covering very specific cases, so if it runs, it runs. It is not the engineer’s job to work out what needs to be done, only how it can be done.

      And the engineer looks back at the train, he sees something that he knows that not all bases are covered, something will give, something isn’t right, things are not how they should be. But everyone else just sees a blindingly fast train.

      I am just lucky that when I screw up, nobody dies.

      • Ray

        Hey, is that the attitude towards engineers at the place you work? Those “visionaries” sounds like they are pretty much only lead on by their ego and profit (wooo fast train gonna own you!)

        In where I work its pretty much power to the engineers, because we are accountable for the things we make. If anything goes wrong, the dogs of war (lawyers) get released and they’ll be on you ass like its their own tail. For that very reason (of fear perhaps), any dodgy designs that is not perfectly safe with a large accepted margin of error can be outright refused on the spot, unless ofcourse the engineer is allow to adjust the design to make it safe.

      • anon

        This is a problem in engineering everywhere. Not many people are willing to be whistleblowers or give too much a shit for others if doing so might cause hassles for their own job. There are countless examples of this, but remember the whole Chinese drywall stink in America? We found out that a lot of people knew something wasn’t right but its usage was pushed through, none of the engineers or workers said anything until afterward, after the homeowners started bitching. Its life. People often suck. That’s why we have laws because we can’t depend on consistent adherence to morals or ethics, and that’s why it is a constant battle to ensure order in this world.

    • vic2u

      “Chinese engineer who build the high speed railways…………personally didn’t think it would ever be able to run at the speed the government wanted and he also said it wasn’t safe.”

      The govt should make these fucker Chinese engineers ride the mentioned unsafe trains until they all die or until they make these trains 100% safe for all of us to ride.

      Only way China can force moron Chinese to do their jobs right.

  • Amelie

    Very sad. My condolences to those who lost their love ones. RIP.

    I tried BJ-SH speed train few weeks ago and while on train I am watching some passengers who are very restless for 5 hrs trip. Many of them cant stay in their seats and keep on moving around to and from other cars. The train is running around 300kph and so fast, there are no seatbelts. With accident like this, can you imagine the sudden impact while some passengers are standing and roaming around inside the bullet train?

    • Disgusted

      Funny, how these trains are designed for speeds from 200 to 275 kph, not over 300 kph…now who is fault now…if the people only knew…

  • Joe

    Why the hell is the wreckage being buried?

    • Jess

      Maybe to cover up the number of deaths and to prevent an investigation?

      • Tengu

        More of a demolition than a rescue operation to be sure…

  • Disgusted

    Funny, how these trains are designed for speeds from 200 to 275 kph, not over 300 kph…now who is at fault now…if the chinese people only knew…

  • haha

    American has generation X and Y , in China we have generation “GP” stand for “Guinea Pigs”. Like it or not we are all GPinside this large testing lab of the chinese government copycat inventions.

    • haha

      Oh sorry should put it GP-X and GP-Y, GP-X is the Guinea Pigs of this generation that feel the immediate effect of the broken technologies, GP-Y will be the generations after us who has to suffer years after this when things started to broke-down due to inferior quality used due to corruption.

  • Foreign Devil

    Their only regret was that they couldn’t not have everything buried and hidden away before the daylight and media showed up.

  • eattot

    so sad!
    do not know what the dispatcher and the driver were doing!if it happened on the groud, guess not so many would people have died.
    sigh!
    there is a photo in which you can clearly see there was a hand inside but they just buried it as soon as possible, shit!

  • Mick

    Almost a decade ago several Chinese were killed or injured in a similar high speed train accident at Potters Bar in England. There was a full investigation, which found that shoddy maintenance inspections on points by a private contractor was the cause of the crash. As a result, the railway operator brought all maintenance back in house, after admitting the private maintenance system had failed. Can we expect the same rigorous investigation and real changes to be implemented by the Chinese govt/railway operators after this crash?

  • http://Haha! Haha!

    I’m finding this site more and more suspicious every day… http://chovanec.wordpress.com/2011/07/26/propaganda-instructions-on-wenzhou-train-crash/

    Are you affiliated with China by at chance?

    • http://Haha! Haha!

      crap, just saw your follow up article, I am gravely mistaken!

  • http://Haha! Haha!

    I’m finding this site more and more suspicious every day… http://chovanec.wordpress.com/2011/07/26/propaganda-instructions-on-wenzhou-train-crash/

    Are you affiliated with China’s government by at chance?

  • http://unblockfacebookinchina.info/vpn-in-china Rod

    I have no interest in seeing crash and victim videos.

    • Arness

      Then dont watch. Try the back button on your browser, it is up the top, at the left.

  • Frank

    Actually, China and workink/peoples safety – two things they don’t fit …
    I’m working in a big chinese company as supervisor. I can see every day how the workers lost about personal safety. Quality control? They have no idea what it means …

  • paul

    Sure some will need the blood but 90% of it will be sold for other purposes to other hospitals then sold by the hospital to other patients.

  • vic2u

    This is why in the USA and in Canada they hire blacks and whites over Chinese for CEO and managerial jobs, Chinese can not work in fast demanding jobs, even taxi drivers are Indian.

    Chinese are good in corner cutting jobs like doing chop chop work and good at messing up expensive properties with poor workmanship by doing speedy sloppy renovations on houses.

    • Just John

      Wow, just wow.

      I will let my co-workers know that their efforts here in the computer industry are not fast paced or demanding.

      I will also let my CEO know that he is not really Chinese, but is actually a black and/or white masquerading as a Chinese. I will also pass on your wise words to all my Chinese division heads, Chinese HR, and, well, my mostly Chinese company that they are not Chinese, they are really blacks and whites.

      Wonder which they will pick, black or white…

      Go troll, go.

      PS. I told you before, I want to have your babies. When will you stop ignoring me and give me your love? Call me! One night, and no calls. Call me!!!

      • vic2u

        >>>>>>>>This is why in the USA and in Canada they hire blacks and whites over Chinese <<<<<<<<<<<<<

        No wonder you are just another worker, learn to read and do not chop chop on the job.

        You are just one of those 22 second jobs, go get a whitey, I don't touch dead beavers.

        • Just John

          “Chinese can not work in fast demanding jobs”
          “Chinese are good in corner cutting jobs like doing chop chop work and good at messing up expensive properties with poor workmanship by doing speedy sloppy renovations on houses.”

          Hey, you said it, I didn’t.

          By the way, my Chinese coworkers were heart broke that they found out they cannot work here anymore because it is a fast, innovative job.

          My CEO also needs you to tell him if he should check “white” or “black” in the next census box.

          Now, LOVE ME, LOVE ME!
          Or I will tell your Wife, Mistress, and Mom about how we made sweet, passionate, gay love, and then you didn’t even call or send flowers. And you left your copy of brokeback mountain at my house.

  • cb4242

    So much for Chinese so called “superior technology” wasn’t it a few weeks ago that China boasted about being so technologically advanced, yeah right. Copying technology that the Japanese perfected and with France and Germany having a high safety record, China wants to ride on the backs of these countries, while cheating, stealing ideas, lying, taking short cuts, misleading, dishonesty, a real shame. While China is a nation that is growing at an astounding rate. They are still in the infancy stage of technological advancement, compared to Japan that after the Meiji restoration, started to open up and within 50 years advanced itself, China hasn’t been at it as long, 25 years or so.
    Japanese always work as a cohesive unit, the Chinese are all over the place. In Japan, if one train stops, they are all synced and they will all stop. I just hope this will be a big step in China trying to be more vigilant and put SAFETY first over pride and pockets.

  • BILL

    DISGUSTING RESCUE AND SALVAGE A SCENE OF MORONS FERRARI IN THE HANDS OF A CAVEMAN

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