Japanese Anti-China Demonstration, Chinese Netizen Reactions

Japanese protesters carrying signs.

From QQ:

Over 1,000 Japanese Right-Wingers Stage Anti-China Demonstration

September 22, rising Japanese right-wing conservative organization “Rise Japan National Action Committee” organized an anti-China march. According to a preliminary estimate, over 1,400 people participated in this demonstration, which is considered to be a relatively large in Japan. The protesting crowd carried signs reading “Japanese Self-Defense Force should be stationed on the Senkaku Islands [aka Diaoyu Islands]” and “Beijing, the rogue gov’t! Get out of our planet!”

Japanese protesters carrying Japanese national flags.

This march started off from Tokyo Castle Peak Park at about 3pm, and arrived at the area surrounding China’s Embassy in Japan at about 4 pm. Afterward, they would read out the written protest in front of the China’s Embassy in Tokyo Roppongi.

A female Japanese protester.

Reports say the organizer of this anti-China demonstration march is Toshio Tamogami, the ex-commander of Japan Air Self-Defense Force who is now the chairman of the “Rise Japanese National Action Committee”. In the middle of August, this committee organized over 150 congressmen and people of other circles and went to Diaoyu Islands to hold a commemoration, and some of their members and several local assembly members landed on the Diaoyu Islands.

A protester requires Japan to revise the constitution, get nuclear weapons, and defend the territory.

A protester demands that Japan revise its constitution, develop nuclear weapons, and defend its territory.

"Senkaku Islands is Japanese territory." is written on a protester's T-shirt.

“Senkaku Islands is Japanese territory” is written on a protester’s T-shirt.

Japanese protesters with signs.

This slogan says: Japan has controlled the Diaoyu Islands since 1895, but not until 1971 did China claim sovereignty over the Diaoyu Islands.

The slogans written on protesters' signs: China is invading Japan.

The slogans written on protesters’ signs: China is invading Japan.

Right wingers who are participating in the anti-China demonstration.

Right-wingers participating in the anti-China demonstration.

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Comments from QQ:

腾讯赣州市网友 小草:

The Japanese devils are so infuriating! Go to hell!

腾讯网友 阿娟:

At this point, just let it [Japan] go ahead and protest. We can stop fighting over the Diaoyu Islands too, and after they finish seizing the Diaoyu Islands, they can come seize mainland China as well. Our diplomats can only protest, condemn, and welcome nations around the world to come seize Chinese territory anyway.

腾讯网友 明日にくちづ:

Yet another misleading headline!!! On [the photo], it’s clearly written “Beijing Gov’t get out of the planet”, what the fuck does it have to do with us Chinese people?? Who says they represent Chinese people?? At least they don’t represent me!

[Note: The original headline was “日本右翼叫嚣中国人滚蛋” (Japanese Right Wingers Shout Chinese People Get Lost) ]

腾讯网友 走刀: (responding to above)

Sowing dissension and disguised replacement of a concept are schemes they’re known for. Who doesn’t know that what this “Beijing” represents isn’t the people but a system/institution!

腾讯网友 秋风落叶: (responding to above)

Still I’d approve of that system getting lost from the planet, the further the better.

腾讯铜仁地区网友 〃軍姿ノ: (responding to above)

SB, that “Beijing” represents China… Even a peasant like me understands~~

腾讯网友 南柯一梦,欲: (responding to above)

A very interesting joke, has anyone noticed that many netizens’ names seem to be Japanese? Ha ha ha… and they’re there nitpicking, what a disgrace!!! ~~~ What a joke! …

腾讯成都市网友 喂、小方块他:

Can’t believe Japan actually has a portion of people who have this attitude towards us. I wonder what sort of propaganda the Japanese government used to change their people’s knowledge of their past fascist war. How can they not feel even the slightest bit of shame?! Get out of our planet?! Fucking better be careful, every single one of us can breath out two extra breathes of carbon dioxide and have you wiped off the planet. Destroying you guys is this easy.

腾讯安徽省网友 台湾美丽日记:

The Diaoyu Islands, where the Japanese can go there whenever they want to, while the Chinese dare not to get close, and only know how to blindly bark! The day before yesterday there were even Chinese people in Japan saying nobody was telling them to get lost, but now you know, right? It’s all a lie.

腾讯网友 岸清:

Mainland people who want to group travel on Diaoyu Islands, sign up.

腾讯网友 2403457531:

Both Japanese people and Americans are loathsome like this, always bullying us Chinese. Can our government do something instead of just continuing to put up with it?

腾讯吉林市网友 Mr.杂烩饭乄:

Interesting, I’m not afraid of this kind of people at all. If there isn’t a war, then we’d be letting down the God that created this bunch of sons of bastards.

腾讯宜昌市网友 蒾夨ゞ過去:

Damn, I don’t know who should really be the ones to get out of the planet, those who are a waste of air when they live, and a waste of land when they die.

腾讯石家庄市网友 逍遥:

Hehe, so interesting. Maybe the Diaoyu Islands really are Japan’s, otherwise why is the Communist Liberation Army afraid to set foot on the islands? A guilty conscious from being in the wrong. Then stop fooling our fellow countrymen. Let’s wait until the ruling party has been changed and then seize the islands.

腾讯南通市网友 絮儿: (responding to above)

Exactly! [The government, military] makes it as if we’re the one’s trying to steal someone else’s stuff. If its our islands, why can other people go on them and leave as they please? Our compatriots only know how to be tough domestically! When its towards foreigners, they don’t even dare to let out a fart!

腾讯网友  清风明月(*^_: (responding to above)

No matter what, we should still trust in our Party and our government.

腾讯深圳市网友 "一個乆菂格:

Well done, Japanese people. I support you. It would be best to just destroy China. China’s society is too unfair, the earlier it’s destroyed, the better.

腾讯成都市网友 。: (responding to above)

You Japanese dog, Japan should’ve disappeared from this planet long ago.

腾讯网友 龍行天下: (responding to "一個乆菂格)

When the Japanese devils are destroying China and raping your mother, let’s see if you still think it’s fair or not.

腾讯网友  溡緔⑨&④︶: (responding to "一個乆菂格)

一個乆菂格, you are a fucking SB, inflating other people’s pride and despising your own people.

See also: Japanese Anti-Korea Demonstration, Korean Netizen Reactions

Right wingers who are participating in the anti-China demonstration.

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  • elizabeth

    ‘Planet’ is a little overdone.

    • Not really, “Beijing” is meant to represent the government which by no means represents the people or even country of china.

      This type of government is nothing but a cancerous sore that needs to removed and rejected everywhere, hence “off this planet”.

      Good for them for actually turning the tables and protesting Beijing’s “lebensraum” policy. At least these protesters weren’t government sponsored, organized, paid and brainwashed unlike certain other protests in another large Asian nation. And Heaven help us they didn’t even trash a single chinese take-out or drycleaners.

      • Boris

        ‘At least these protesters weren’t…brainwashed…’ Check out the second photo. I’d swear a guy there is wearing a WW2 army cap. Christ… I think someone just in front of him is sporting some kind of kamikaze bandana!

        • I think the key there is that it’s “a” guy rather than all or most.

          Also notice how the police are there to help make sure it’s peaceful rather than encourage?

          Yup, brainwashed.

        • kilroy238

          Come on man open your eyes it’s easy to see if you look closely that it’s a regular ball cap. The flag is draped over his shoulder only giving it that appearance.

          • Boris

            Second picture, you gooseberry!

          • grovesman

            @ Boris:

            If you’re talking about the guy in the green headgear…look a little closer…it seems to be either a T-shirt tied to look like a “do-rag” or a “do-rag”. Not even close to the Imperial Army cap.

          • Boris

            Far left, middle of the picture. Yukio Mishima is standing almost in front of him.

          • grovesman

            Got it…yep…you’re right…looks like the Imperial Army cap to me.

      • Alex

        Nor they started beating up and destroying their own property to protest against another country.

        From what I hear, the demostration was really organize, polite, and even the police asked them to go only in small groups by turn to protest in front of the Chinese embassy, and so they did.

        Japanese, polite, cultured and evolved(even the extreme right wing), but here……..

        • elizabeth

          …they were singing Sukiyaki.

          • Winter B4 Spring

            haha with their fists in the air. lovely. :P

        • red scarf

          You notice the people in these photos are of an older generation to the general photos of the Chinese anti-Japanese protesters. 9Although can be bias)

          I seen some comments describing that the anti-Japan protesters are like the youth of the Free Tibet protesters of 2008, i.e there young school kids caught up in a sense of wanting to do something without knowing the facts.

          In fact there is some suggestions that some of the protests were led by teachers of schools.

          http://liuzhou.co.uk/wordpress/2012/09/16/liuzhou-boycotts-japan/

      • elizabeth

        You’d prefer ‘universe’ then.

        • Ideally, I’d like multiverse, but if wishes were horses, even beggars would ride.

      • 泰国华裔

        “Beijing government by no means represents the people or even country of china.”

        But this government has made the country grow, powerful so that the US government had to send Dr. Kissinger to invite China to UN instead of Taiwan. Safe Chinese people from starvation, make progress in industry, science, sport. The late great Deng xiao ping had quoted “No matter it is black or white, if it can catch mice, it is a good cat”

        And now China is strong enough to demand the return of the Islands robbed by Japanese in 1895.

  • Slob

    sofa?

    • elizabeth

      Ain’t no sofa. Too small. It’s big time this one…big bang.

  • vince

    At least they’re not looting, indulging in arson and beating each other.

    • elizabeth

      Or calling human beings ‘locusts’ ;]

      • moop

        locust

        • Linette

          Locusts are called the ultimate destroyers. They are every hard working farmers nightmare. They descend in large number wiping out destroying every crops that they didn’t help grow.
          Waves of locusts sweep through the land, stripping it of its resources, devastating the city.
          Nothing left for the hard working farmers.

          • Nibiru

            Are you calling yourself locust? Hongkie locust in Ameica?

          • mr. wiener

            Nirburu , if you can’t be intellectual could you at least be funny?

      • Kukuku

        What human beings? ;)

        • elizabeth

          Here you go, a mirror from Weiner’s greasy den, with compliments ;D

          • Kukuku

            No seriously, what human beings?

          • elizabeth

            Look in the mirror dude.

          • Cooljackal

            I think she means HK people. In a lot of previous articles she has stated her unfavorable opinions about them. They are also the ones who have called mainland chinese “locust”.

          • elizabeth

            Coojackal, you are wrong by a long shot. We are all human beings. Calling another locust means we are calling ourselves that too.

            And as for ‘a lot of articles’ where I spoke against HKers, exactly how many? You are beginning to sound like moop, given to character assassination to turn readers against your target. Below the belt desperation, I’d say.

            I have nothing against HKers, only those protesters who call Chinese ‘locusts’.

          • elizabeth

            Coojackal, you are wrong by a long shot. We are all human beings. Calling another locust means we are calling ourselves that too.

            And as for ‘a lot of articles’ where I allegedly spoke against HKers, exactly how many? You are beginning to sound like moop, given to character assassination to turn readers against your target. Below the belt desperation, I’d say.

            I have nothing against HKers, merely pointing out th hypocrisy, rudeness, selfishness, arrogance of those/protesters who call Chinese ‘locusts’.

          • Cooljackal

            Yes, it is true that we all are human beings but calling someone “locust” doesn’t mean we are calling ourselves that. Just like calling someone a freeloader doesn’t mean we are calling all humans freeloaders.

            You seem to take a lot of comments to heart and assume people are trying to “character assassinate” you. Trust me, there is no need for me to do that.

          • elizabeth

            Produce the links to those many articles and perhaps then you can be trusted.

          • elizabeth

            You don’t seem to understand the difference between referring human beings to as ‘locusts’ and ‘freeloaders’.

            The first is degrading and subjective, like calling you a ‘pig’, robbing them of their humanity and the second does not reduce human beings to merely insects or animals.

            By insulting humanity, you are insulting yourself, unless you do not regard yourself as human. Of course, to those given to insulting others, they will not see the difference, much less respect fellow human beings.

          • Cooljackal

            Well, for one, being called either of the two could be considered degrading by many people. Just like being called either might not be considered offensive by some people. It’s a matter of opinion.

            Being called a pig, cow, sheep etc does not rob an average person of their humanity. It might hurt a bit depending on the context in which it is said. Like calling your kid a pig because they eat so much, or calling an ex a pig for their behavior. Two different contexts, see? However, it DOES rob you of humanity if you believe it does or if you overanalyze and take everything that is said to you in a negative way.

            They aren’t insulting humanity. They are insulting mainland chinese people who go to HK to use services without putting money into their system. Is it generalizing the whole of mainland? Sure it might be but that is their opinion.

            And so, defining the behavior of a group of “humans” using a specific term (negative or positive) doesn’t mean it applies to all of humanity. They are describing the behavior of a group of people using a metaphor. When HK people call mainland people “locust”, I am pretty sure most non-mainland chinese people wouldn’t take it personally and think that they themselves are being called locust as well because “we are all human”.

          • elizabeth

            I can’t think of anything more negative than insulting others when there is no need at all, but only to make one feel better having released pent up frustration, or feel a wee bit more superior or just out of habit, in which case, one should not mind being called the same, but more often than not, the one who insult are the ones that take offense at everything tiny little thing that does not stroke them the right way.

            So, where are the many articles where I allegedly spoke ill of HKers?

          • elizabeth

            I don’t mind being called a freeloader if indeed I am one. However, I will not respect anyone who calls me names when there are other more pleasant references to use to put the point across. Reflects on his insensitivity and limited vocabulary. I would not call my kid a pig in any context because he is not a pig.

          • Cooljackal

            Just going back to my original comment, which wasn’t an attempt to “character assassinate”:

            “I think she means HK people.”
            “They are also the ones who have called mainland chinese “locust””

            I was implying based on the common knowledge that some HK people refer to mainlanders as “locust”. Whenever the subject of “locust” come up on here, it is usually associated with HK/mainland. If you were using that term in some other way that you and Kukuku know then sorry, my mistake.

            “In a lot of previous articles..”

            I will take back the “a lot” articles because you are right, there was one main article with a lot of comments going back and forth between you and some other folks regarding hong kong, which I mistook as different articles.

            “..she has stated her unfavorable opinions about them.”

            But that being said, even if you don’t have anything against HK’ers, pointing out rudeness, selfishness and arrogance is still giving an unfavorable opinion since those are subjective negative traits. A person can seem rude to some but not to others.

            Also, when you call your child a pig, why would it be negative? Haven’t you ever heard a mom call her kid a “pig” in a loving way? There is no ill-intention behind it.

            When you talk about your opinions, it is just that, YOUR opinion. What if you are a freeloader but don’t feel that you are a freeloader. Would you feel bad if someone called you a freeloader then? And if a person is mad enough at you to call you a name, I am pretty sure they won’t stop to think about the least offensive way to insult you.

            Again, don’t assume people are out to get you. I wasn’t trying to insult you at all. As my previous post on another article, I think you misunderstood what I said.

          • elizabeth

            Yes, we are all entitled to our opinions. You feel comfortable calling your kids pigs, I don’t. There’s nothing loving about it to me. If you think so, I will not stop you. That does not mean I should accept your position and do like you do.

            If you find nothing wrong in calling people pigs in your opinion, then you should be able to accept my opinions about HKers I referred to. We should mutually allow for opinions to be aired.

            As for the rest of your post, cool.

        • Getrealson

          Recently, A Japanese reporter spoke to two Chinese nationals living in Japan about the unrest. They were quite happy to stay and felt no discrimination towards them. Photo from the interview.

          http://ms-cache.walkerplus.com/walkertouch/wtd/images/l2/8704.jpg

          • The Enlightened One

            Yeah, this probably wasn’t shown in China.

            And no one would have read it because they were too busy destroying Japanese cars and restaurants.

          • Getrealson

            you obviously didn’t click on the link!

          • The Enlightened One

            Ah you got me!

            Busted lol… pretty funny though.

          • Northerner

            My partner (who is Japanese btw) has just wet her pants over that link.

            I thank you, Sir.

          • Fuck…I got snuck up on by a couple of monkeys like that in Lanzhou recently while I was playing with 4 baby wolves that were brought to the house I was staying by a hunter that shot the father but trapped the mother and her pups. I backed up to te cage and got grabbed by a couple of the most evil monkeys ever and would have ripped me to shreds if they could have got out of their cage. I have never seen 2 faces with more murder in their hearts than those monkeys (well, maybe my ex-wife)

          • Northerner

            Said partner got into a full blown scrap with one on an island in Malaysia last year. It took a fancy to something shiny on her wrist and once it realised she wasn’t going to surrender the object it set about trying to chew her hand off to free its prize.

            The thing was about the size of a large parrot and she actually punched it in the face knocking it off its branch. The little bastard still came back for more.

            Macaques, one of the most aggressive monkey species; like a minaturised cracked up hoodie with hammer and demented pit bull cross.

          • mr. wiener

            I remember having to beat a pack of them off these HK tourists on Emi shan. Laid in with a good walking stick but got in a staring contest with a big male ’till some guides showed up with slingshots.
            Well timed, I think he was about to go me.

          • Northerner

            ‘I remember having to beat a pack of them off…’

            Hope you got paid.

            I’ll shut the door on the way out.

          • Well the guy had a female macaque also that was really sweet and friendly and took a real shining to me and even showed me her bum, which, I was later told, is apparently the highest honor you can get from a monkey.

            weiner: I’ve got some video of the wolves and monkeys that I took with my mobilephone so the quality is not very good. But you can see that male macaque that was the most hateful creature I have ever come across(well…besides Hongjian, I mean) I’ll send to yer e-mail.

  • Slob

    On a serious note, this will certainly rustle some jimmies. Can’t wait for the counter-demos in China.

    • Chunghwa

      You can return to /v/, and you can take your “jimmies” with you.

      • moop

        @chughwa what is ” /v/ “? is it a 4chan reference?

        • kilroy238

          /v/ is for video games :)

  • Anti-China…? Really? Seems more anti-Beijing CCP government to me. Also no hate filled racist slogans. no car burning. None of the bullshit the Chinese protesters pulled. Very peaceful and organized. Jaiyo Japan!

    Funny how “Right Wing” Japanese protesters seem so much more tame than average Chinese ones. That says a lot about civilized development right there.

    • elizabeth

      Didn’t you noticed? They want to nuke. Burning is cheap thrill.

      • moop

        no the didnt say they want to nuke, they said they want to have nukes. makes sense, china has them, japan wants a nuclear deterrent as well

        • The Enlightened One

          I agree with moop.

          Having a crazy neighbor like China next to you with nukes would make me pretty nervous too.

          • GodsHammer

            aaaaaaaaaaaaaannd the nutty north koreans as well… can’t forget them.

          • AngryCanadien

            north koreans’ nukes are useless. they don’t have the technical know how to construct a bomb small enough that can fit onto a missile. moreover, they don’t even know how to build a launch vehicle that can carry nuke warheads. Their nukes are probably bigger and more cumbersome than the first one invented by the americans.

            oh and china has a never-the-first-to-use-a-nuke policy

          • moop

            “oh and china has a never-the-first-to-use-a-nuke policy” the chinese constitution also says people have freedom of speech and of the press.

          • Linette

            Can we have a nuke party?

          • The Enlightened One

            Sure, Linette….

            But I get to go first! You can go after I nuke you, okay?

          • The Enlightened One

            See what I did there?

            I bet China would change that policy after a Nuke party… well whoever is left…

          • Cooljackal

            Is that what they are calling it these days? :)

          • linette

            No no no no, we play paper scissors rock and see who gets to go first.

          • Nuke parties, the ultimate evolution of ‘Chicken’

        • mr. wiener

          Japan IS a nuclear deterrent.

  • linette

    Those should be put out of this planet are the China corrupt officials,and the crazy Japanese and chinese nationalists. ;)

    • vince

      Wholeheartedly agree !

  • RuffledFeathers

    China is so full of hatred and animosity from the past. How many Chinese have actually met a Japanese person, and how many alive today suffered at the hands of the Japanese?

    This kind of hateful prejudice died in the West a long time ago.

    • MrT

      Really? I still say fck Japan and what they done.

    • Boris

      The uni I used to work in contains a middleschool-stroke-highschool. Outside it’s entrance are two glass-covered notice boards. The first one holds pictures of Japanese soldiers executing Chinese prisoners. The largest photo is of a Jap soldier proudly holding up a decapitated head with one hand, his katana in the other. The second board is of the CCP heavy hitters: Mao mingling amongst peasants in the countryside, the ever-smiling Zhou En Lai etc. Just so that you’ll never be tempted to forget who the bad guys are, and the good. The CCP have no interest having the Japanese as friends… they’re far too valuable as an enemy.

      • Winter B4 Spring

        Totally. It’s all politics. Mao actually appreciated the Japs help in exhausting the KMTs before the communists came out from hiding and took over China. And the CCP definitely appreciates the Japs as enemies so to distract the Chinese people from the CCP’s current corruptions and predicaments. Eg Wang Lijun & Bo Xilai. I have read that they were both heavily involved in the illegal organ trade in their provinces but nothing was mentioned to the public, knowing such admissions will bring down the party. What a good time for protesting against the Japs now. Ooooh.

        • Exactly, but hear them scream bloody murder and cry about hurt feeling if anything is said about them.

          In china, you can hate your hardest and be encouraged, but the slightest bit of criticism from outside china and it’s a scream for blood and apologies.

          • Winter B4 Spring

            *shiverrrr*

    • Brett Hunan

      “This kind of hateful prejudice died in the West long ago.”

      Oh no, dear, goodness no. Okay, this has nothing to do with our spat yesterday but when I get into the office I really need to teach you something about hatred in the west. Have my reply to you by lunch.

      • RuffledFeathers

        But it’s not as bad Brett, I mean yes the west has a lot of haters (I’m not implying you here, by the way, you’re right, our other spat is irrelevant). But the kind of orchestrated violence and protest we’ve seen in China recently is something you don’t see much elsewhere.

        As Elijah put it,

        “In china, you can hate your hardest and be encouraged, but the slightest bit of criticism from outside china and it’s a scream for blood and apologies.”

        Now this is a consistent and omnipresent feeling of latent nationalism among Chinese, and I see it all the time here. Western nations don’t have the same sentiments, and if they do, it’s not released every time someone criticizes them.

        • Brett Hunan

          I like this response much more. Below is what I wrote just before you posted your reply to me. BTW, the “fuck off” was just a harsh way of me illustrating that “please” doesn’t make my tone any nicer.

          Your question is a good one, as many people can’t understand the Chinese blind resentment of Japan.

          Okay, so rather than argue a claim that Western societies don’t hold grudges and prejudices, let me at least try to explain why these protests and acts of violence are occurring; it seems like a more valiant effort. :)

          I don’t disagree that the Chinese people are filled with hatred and resentment of the Japanese. It’s evident to most people who have ever visited China. I argue, however, it isn’t the citizens’ fault. Most Chinese people are force-taught about how terrible Japan was during WWII from a very young age. Think elementary school. This directed anger is a tool used by the CCP to point people’s anger away from the shitty lives they live, because they have a government who takes everything and gives little back, and towards a more collective cause.

          In the Chinese minds, they don’t have to have met a Japanese person or suffered at the hands of the Japanese to hate them. Imagine having lived your entire life in China. Growing up, never being able to refute the words of your parents, never ever able to talk about why the government is unfair or downright corrupt. You have to accept your fate that you will most likely never amount to anything. You, as an individual, don’t matter. What would be your tipping point? How would you get the anger out? In the west, as children, we have the ideas instilled in us that we can be anything we want to be and do anything we want to do. In China you get taught to obey.

          No, this aggression isn’t about the Japanese. This is the first time in most of these people’s lives that they have been able to protest in public without fearing much fallout from the government. It is the first time that they are able to let loose and get together and be passionate about something.

          I don’t condone the actions taken by the extremists over the past week, It is easy, however, to see how well the government’s orchestrating and directing of hatred has lead to this point.

          • MeiDaxia

            After the Women’s World Cup when the USA lost to Japan, there were thousands of posts on facebook resembling “That’s ok Japan, we still got Hiroshima and Nagasaki” and other BS like that. Maybe the hate doesn’t manifest itself in ways one might expect to see elsewhere, but don’t be naive enough to say that it “doesn’t exist in the West.”

          • Alice S

            Anti-Jap feelings exist in the West!! You think that doesn’t count? So Japs are ok with ppl throwing racist abuse at them?

          • Brett Hunan

            Are you writing that to me, RF or just for everyone to read?

          • RuffledFeathers

            I agree. Indoctrination and distraction politics are a key factor in manipulating a whole society. Yes it’s true that indoctrination to hate Japan it taught at a young age and yes, I agree this is the only kind of outlet they have to ‘blow off steam’ about their unfair lifestyle. It’s just a shame that so many are willing to go with the flow without having the ability or the inclination to consider the reason why it is like this.

          • MeiDaxia

            @Brett, sorry should have specified, I was agreeing with you.

          • Northerner

            As Ai Wei Wei yes in an interview at the time:

            “Chinese citizens need to thank the Japanese government because for the first time, they can mount a large protest on their own land,”

            “In China, there are no protests organised by the people.”

            In respect of the Chinese hatred of Japanese other than seeing it most places you do when you live in China I often think of one incident where I was in a relationship with a Chinese girl who would get angry and subsequently go into huge sulking fits if anything related to Japan occurred. This was somewhat difficult as I had lived in Japan for a number of years before moving to China and therefore had quite a number of friends there and was (and still am) very interested in many things Japanese; films, books, clothes, trips there, Facebook friends, food could all lead to huge rows; in all other respects she was a really, really sweet girl who had never met anyone from Japan and who would quite openly state she never wanted to and if she did she could only feel hatred for them.

            One evening she came to my place for dinner. There was something strange about her personality that night, like a sort of guilty playfulness. In the end I managed to get it out of her. She had a new project to work on and she had met her new client for the first time that afternoon. He was Japanese. Much to my amazement she confided that he was handsome, extremely well dressed, charming, polite, respectful, sympathetic, understanding, that he listened when she spoke, was reasonable about deadlines, never raised his voice or barked out orders at her…unlike her Chinese clients — I am sure you get the picture.

            As you have pointed out the CCP needs an object of hatred outside China otherwise the state of people’s lives and the reasons for this there will be an overwhelming subject of hatred.

            I realised with the young woman above that indoctrinating people very early on and teaching them to hate minimises the risk that they will interact with those they are taught to hate and therefore draw their own, different conclusions.

            I don’t deny there is hatred elsewhere and the strongest sense of hatred I got in Europe was when as a student I spent a lot of time traveling through communist Eastern Europe. In Poland I was told many times that the people hated the Germans for what they did during WWII and that people hated the Russians even more for what they did at the end of WWII and during The Cold War, but this was always qualified with a ‘that was a long time ago, and we have all moved on now’ or similar.

            Still I am sure there is race hatred I just don’t think it is virtually part of the national syllabus.

    • Nibiru

      You know why? Because the Nazis who brought havoc to the westerners have kelt down and apologized to the victims, while the Japanese Nazis never acknowlege their evildoings much less apologizing for what they’ve done to Chinese, I don’t think they will.
      Actually the hateful prejudice is till in some part of the heavily Nazi-stricken areas in the west.

      • Northerner

        You foetus.

      • Persimmon5

        This isn’t exactly true. Japan has apologized quite a few times actually.
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_war_apology_statements_issued_by_Japan

        • Scott

          The myth that an unrepentant Japan refuses to apologize is essential to Chinese belief, is accepted as factual and remains resistant to doubt. This myth allows the Chinese to indulge in hate, the only form of revenge they can extract from Japan.

          • Chom

            It is not a myth that they haven’t apologized for the Rape of Nanjing, and even not acknowledged it happened. All those statements on the Wikipedia article are apologizing to Korea and China in general, they do not once mention the Rape of Nanjing. It would be like the German government apologizing for WW2 without mentioning the holocaust specifically.

        • 泰国华裔

          In October 2006, Prime Minister Shinzo Abe’s apology was followed on the same day by a group of 80 Japanese lawmakers’ visit to the Yasukuni Shrine which enshrines more than 1000 convicted war criminals.[54] Two years after the apology, Shinzo Abe also denied that the Imperial Japanese military had forced comfort women into sexual slavery during World War II

          From your quoted website

      • persimmon5

        I know, it’s maddening that there are officials in Japan who are still in a state of denial over the Nanking Massacre. IMO it would be as if the US officials denied there was ever slavery in the America! But I think the majority of Japanese do believe atrocities occurred during this battle and there are liberal Japanese historians who have had some success in changing the content of textbooks to reflect both the accomplishments and shortcomings and crimes of their own country. It does not help though that some evidence and narrative of the Nanking Massacre has actually been found to be exaggerrated or even doctored (for instance some clearly doctored photographs and others that reflected a different place or time and perpetrator, but passed off as part of the massacre). This unfortunately plays into the hands of those who deny the massacre ever happened! The deny-ers can say “See those photos were doctored so that cancels out whatever other evidence has been produced that Nanking was a massacre.” This makes it harder for progressive forces to have the moral ascendency to convince the public to get the government to effect desired change in the national curriculum and to publicly acknowledge and apologize for the massacre. It is my hope that the truth will prevail. The truth is very very important.

        • It doesn’t help that they claim over 300,000 were slaughtered when the entire population of Nanjing was around 200,000 at the time. That’s quite a discrepancy.

          http://www.ne.jp/asahi/unko/tamezou/nankin/whatreally/index.html
          http://www.ne.jp/asahi/unko/tamezou/nankin/fiction/index.html

          Who’s to say who’s telling the truth anymore?

          • GhettoeJoe

            Agree with you it’s hard to say get the real facts.

            Now I’m REALLY curious how the population of Nanjing went from 200,000 to over 7 million in about 80 years. That is some CRAZY urbanization rates!

            Or could it be Nanjing’s (and immediate surrounding region) were greater than 200,000.

          • GJ: Well…I haven’t been to Nanjing but I understand it has a huge military presence now…that probably has something to do with the growth.
            Also, from what I’ve read, the victims of the “alleged” massacre were all people trapped inside the city walls.

          • mr. wiener

            Some nasty shit went down there. the Japanese troops behaved like wanton savages. Japanese right-wingers who deny this are beneath contempt.
            But whatever the numbers I hate the way it always gets bought up like an IOU or a gambling debt to justify whatever position the Chinese have with the Japanese and make them[the Chinese] out to be the victims.

          • GhettoeJoe

            It partly keeps getting brought up because Japan has never really officially recognized and apologized for it.

            Chinese are masters at propaganda but given what the Japanese army did during the war not just to Chinese but Americans, British, etc. it doesn’t sound all that out of character

  • Boris

    Song of the article:
    ‘Japanese gentlemen, stand up please’
    -Yellow Magic Orchestra.

    • I do not think so,

      thats my job

      • rollin wit 9’s

        way to come out of the darkness and suprise us all.
        Love this guy. He’s like batman haha.
        best let it alone boris.

        • 404namenotfound

          Haha yeah man, i thought he died or something.

      • mr. wiener

        Suggestions then comrade K.?

      • Boris

        How about this one,
        Japan
        -‘Taking Islands in Africa’?

        • mr. wiener

          I think the “Gilligan’s Island” theme might be more appropriate.

  • Duke

    Just goes to show there are racist idiots everywhere. Been to many countries(not all yet) and everywhere I go its the same. A small groups of rich people and a large group of people struggling or working their asses off to survive. Every single country shares this quality. Why is it so easy for us to hate each other when we are all in the same boat? It’s called PLANET EARTH and the passengers are all HUMAN. Your either in first class or coach. Maybe the reason for all the hate is because most of the world is stuck in coach. Just a thought.

    • The Japanese protesters weren’t being racist.

    • Thank you for this good comment, Duke.

      • Winter B4 Spring

        …and thank you for your love Fauna. xoxo :P

      • If you call the Japanese protesters racist, then you get praise from the overlord. Because government and/or nationality somehow equal race.

      • Duke

        No problem Fauna. I honestly believe it to be true. I wish the whole world would wake up to the fact that the only things that make us “different” are the societies we grow up in. I’ve traveled to north America, south America, the Caribbean, Europe, Asia and made friends everywhere I have been to. Everywhere I go, the people are exactly the same. Some are good, some are bad. A few are rich and most are not. The name of their government or the name by which they refer to “god” doesn’t make them “more” or “less” human. As far as I can tell, the most important thing in every country is how much money you have. You either have lots money and therefore many options when making your choices in life, or your money is limited and your options are very small. If you live on this planet, it’s the same for you too. Sadly, its the reality of our current system. Whether your good or bad, honest or a liar, racist or a lover of humanity. All that matters little when compared to the amount of money you have and that’s true in every country I have seen. If everyone in the world was “wealthy”, would we still hate each other? I don’t think so.

        • moop

          “If everyone in the world was “wealthy”, would we still hate each other?”

          what a naive comment. why dont you go to the middle east and ask this question. do you honestly think the japanese are hated in china because of classism? your previous post hinted at your buffoonery but now its fully apparent.

          • El Puma R.

            Moop, my friend

            I don’t think Duke’s comment was about the matter in question, even though he’s right and many people should think like him. However, it’s all related you see, possible armed conflicts are often the best scapegoat for governments who are trying to hide an inevitable fail, therefore use this strategy to distract people from the things that really matter. People is stupid enough not to see it and governments have made sure to raise them that way, 3 months ago it was against Philippines and nobody seemed to care. They did it in my country in 1982 with the Malvinas war (Falklands war) when people was already aware they were living in a dictatorship full of lies they used this excuse to make all of them believe they were doing the right thing. And people was stupid enough to believe. I could call 9-11 as an excuse to invade middle east and drown the US in debt but unfortunately yanks are still too sensitive with this matter because if it was an inside job, it would be much worse than the low punch that already is, and admitting it could escalate the price they’ve already payed for all this.

            Yes Brett, I’m afraid we live in a world of many being managed by the needs of a few.

      • Asis

        Well Fauna, this comment by Duke, displayed an equal amount of ignorance as a car burning nationalist. The only difference was that the ignorance was pointed in a positive direction rather than a negative.

        But don’t let that stop you from your mission to write off the majority of foreigners who complain about China on this site as racist or trolls though.

        • paxman

          The majority of foreigners who complain about China on this site ARE racist or trolls.

          • El Puma R.

            and tell me, what are you doing right now?

            paxman = fail .

          • swat

            I have to second you on this.

            Thanks Asis for aligning direction to this.

    • moop

      “Just goes to show there are racist idiots everywhere” eh, yeah, but this article doesn’t provide much of an example, in fact, if you’re suggesting the japanese protestors are racist, then i’d say you’re full of shit. they are protesting against the ccp, they are not protesting against the chinese people, thats why the signs say “beijing” and not “chinese”. please compare and contrast this with the calls for japanese to be killed by chinese protesters.

      as far as the rest of the garbage in your post, congratulations you’ve spurned racism and championed yet a separate form of collectivism, classism.

      “Maybe the reason for all the hate is because most of the world is stuck in coach. Just a thought”
      is this like your oprah book club moment?

      • The Enlightened One

        Sounds more like Jerry Springer’s Final Thought

      • Maybe he is talking about some of the Chinese netizens? Or some of the commenters on chinaSMACK?

        • Getrealson

          Or maybe the Nuremberg trial? or that KKK article 3 years ago?

        • moop

          nah, i dont think so, he must have been referring to the japanese and the chinese protesters at least, or else i dont think he would have said “Just goes to show there are racist idiots everywhere”, i think the word everywhere is the key there. he might be talking about chinasmack posters as you are, but he is certainly at least referring to the chinese and japanese protesters

          • Getrealson

            Duke! settle a bet!

          • Winter B4 Spring

            i reckon it’s the KKK he’s talking about! Not till he states it explicitly…i’m just guessing :P

          • Duke

            I apologize for what has been referred to as “Jerry Springer’s Final Thought” or “oprah book club moment”(btw lmfao). Again, it was just a thought. In regards to my comment on racism, I was referring to the person asking for nukes in Japan for defense. Nukes don’t just hit military targets, nukes kill civilians who’s only reason for dying in a nuclear explosion are living in the target country. You have to really hate the people of another country to want to nuke said country, even in self defense. If you don’t think that is racist, then we will agree to disagree.

          • moop

            ” If you don’t think that is racist, then we will agree to disagree.” its not racist. is every nuke-holding nation racist? do you accept the view that Han is a race and Asian is a separate race? like Aryians are a race and caucasians are a race? its not racist. they are protesting against a government and the people are all of the asian race…. its called NATIONALISM

          • Duke

            BTW who won the bet?

          • moop

            me, mwuah hahahahah, give me all of your arcade tokens!

    • vince

      two words – Human Nature

    • El Puma R.

      I think the same way as you, Duke. However, we live in times when instead of trying to convince people, we should start punching them in the face, shutting down their 3g networks, cellphone signals, bank accounts and internet. Doesn’t it make you want to punch those few in the face? Please don’t tell me it doesn’t, because we can all find a way to heal the human race; if you can do it by convincing people and explain them what life is about, good for you, but if you can’t.. then you better start punching bags bro ’cause one day you might need those pretty fists of yours.

      • Duke

        Nice to hear from a like minded individual Puma. Don’t worry, while I hope to never use them for violence, my fists work just fine. I maxed out the punching machine at the local arcade three times last week. You should have seen the crowd gathered at try number three! Made a lot of new local friends that night. People in this country can be some of the friendliest you’ve ever met once you break down the barriers. Even if you have to use your fists lol

        • El Puma R.

          My chinese friends and gf are probably some of the most loyal people I’ve ever met in my life. it’s just that the rest are so… so hard to say it, I know other countries (like mine) are famous for making people want to stay… but China doesn’t fit in that category very often.

          the same arcade punch machine is downstairs my place but my wrist is wounded for reasons yet to be found, so far the only suspects are alcohol and a night full of emotional discharge. lol I really hope I could take one of those arcade machines to my house so me and all my buddies could measure how hard we could punch each other.

          I just had an idea someone should invent a machine that punches people in the face and so they can see how weak/strong they are. the higher the level the harder the punch will be. And it would be so funny to see people getting smashed one after another.

          • Duke

            Interesting idea, however the risk of injury, brain damage and even death from a really hard punch to the face would make a machine like that a legal nightmare.

          • El Puma R.

            But when you pass the level you can choose whether you want to go to the next one or not. So no objections there, it’s their own choice!

    • donnachadh

      Yeah Duke, why can’t we all just get along? Those who can’t get along with others really need to be sent for some re-education through labour by the getting on police, or have their country nuked if they are outside the jurisdiction.

  • Getrealson

    “get nuclear weapons!”

    FUUUUUUUUUUCCKK NO! Chinese are what they are and we’ve covered it all. But for Fuck sake do not let these people have nuclear weapons.

    • Winter B4 Spring

      i hope no one ever has nuclear weapons. what good can it do but destruction huh :(

  • B

    Haha read the chinese comments , i mean common this was a calm non racial anti chinese government protest , after week a week of violence agaibst Japanese restaurants , companies/ factories, smashing of Japan brands or even beating chinese half to death because they happen to own a Toyota.
    Then you read the chinese comment above “Can’t believe Japan has a portion of people with this attitude against us”
    You bloody chinese retard!

    • rainer

      I happened to come across this shop in China yesterday , had all their “buy Chinese, trash Japanese made products” thingy hang outside their shop, only to find out too much of the jap made electronics inside their shop. The thing is civilians have to get of off this shit and let the gov’ts handle it. It’s better that way because hatred is already there, but this world has too much to deal with right now: poverty, hurricanes , earthquakes, corruption, global warming etc etc
      Not until civilians recognize that their enemy is their gov’ts and all civilians no matter where they are from face the same problem, that we can make this lovely earth a better place.

  • Cleo

    It would be funny if the opportunistic violence of some of the Chinese got them into trouble with the law. They must have had bad personalities in the first place to do it so this gave the Chinese a way to clean house – just like getting the Japanese to grab that hanjian who sold drugs in China with a Japanese partner and is now extradited from Canada to Japan for killing Japanese – Yay!

  • Cleo

    I may be indifferent to Japanese rightists because all the interesting ominousness happened during the Kristof years and before. I don’t expect that era of Japanese coverage to ever return now everything seems tired and stale even when they try really hard not to be like on NHK World News which I can’t really watch not because it is toxic but because it is mediocre.

    • Cleo

      now a wikileaks – that WOULD be fun

  • gregy

    These Chinese reactions made me laugh, as they show how brainwashed Chinese people are. Chinese people have no idea that this whole Diaoyu Island non-sense only resulted in their own humiliation and embarrassment as they showed the world that they cannot behave like civilized adults, alienated one of their biggest trade partners, and destroyed factories/jobs that Japanese companies provided. Way to go, China…Keep showing the world why you are a disgrace to humanity.

    Lived here for 4 years and have very little positive things to say about China/Chinese people. And I tried very, very, very hard over this time to like them and look beyond their many faults. But, I’ve completely given up on Mainland Chinese as they are a disgusting people.

    • vince

      I especially like this comment
      腾讯网友 清风明月(*^_: No matter what, we should still trust in our Party and our government.
      I’m going to call this fellow superwumao.

      • Winter B4 Spring

        LOL!! yeah. This comment caught my eyes most. i hold him down, you kick him :P

        • Winter B4 Spring

          …but pls, don’t miss.

          • vince

            Don’t worry I love soccer so don’t worry about my accuracy :D

    • incorrect CHina will have to nuke a weak US ally like the phillipines to get their point across China will drop a 5 megaton nuclear warhead on the city of Manila and kill 5 million to show Jpan and US that Fenqing-Beijing means business

      • Getrealson

        China don’t have the balls and everyone knows it. Wake up from your dream, you are the laughing stock of the world!

        • rainer

          Yeah, I was kinda laughing when I read his comment.

      • The Enlightened One

        LoL… What kind of insecure Jackass country would go after the Philippines?

        Nuking them would just make the Chinese government look MORE like a bunch of ass clown bullies.

        It’s pathetic… it’s cowardly… for example:

        If there were a few kids at school and one kid strongly disliked a group of kids but instead of showing them how tough he is by going after the strongest of the group… he beats the shit out of the smallest runt (Philippines). Is that suppose to get the RESPECT and FEAR of the others in the group or even the rest of the kids in the playground?

        HELL NO! They will all want to kick the living shit out of that prick without mercy. At least if the kid went after the toughest and lost, he may gain some respect. But going after the smallest he just earned a way one ticket to BITCH TOWN.

        • Linette

          I think China should send all the north koreans refugees like 400,000 of them to philippine and have the philippine gov’t feed them provide them with healthcare and schools. It will save China 1 billion dollar each year, which then they can use it on fixing and helping the china rural people.

          • Winter B4 Spring

            o.O i read that the party’s been sending North Korean refugees back INTO North Korea, and they face imminent Labour Camp for many generations :( ouch! That’s like being tortured, killed, brought back to life, and tortured again.

          • The Enlightened One

            I dread the thought… may as well just off yourself.

          • Linette

            party’s been sending North Korean refugees back INTO North Korea,…….

            I guess China is getting cheap. They weren’t that strict with koreans before. Now they just ship them back and don’t want to be bother.

      • vince

        hahahah oh lol thanks I hadn’t had a good lol all day :D

      • 404namenotfound

        lmao poor Philippines.

      • Nick in Beijing

        Where is Fauna? She’s quick to criticize certain foreign posters for generalizing China, while people like starting give so much ammunition.

        • El Puma R.

          Well maybe Fauna’s given up to the truth, China is a country full of stereotyped people who at the end of the day (or when they’re not in their computers) behave just like everyone else. It’s all good business under the heavenly skies and to get rich is glorious blablabla…. Chinese people could use another Caocao right now. lol

          • El Puma R.

            Fauna tell me if I’m wrong, Caocao said something like this: “I can say sorry to everyone but no one can say sorry to me”

      • Bo Xilai For Emperor

        Starting, quit jerking off in front of the laptop, your brain is gonna get fried!!!

    • AngryCanadien

      i don’t get it. what makes you think that it’s only mainland china that has these faults? what about other developing countries, maybe for comparison? india? pakistan? indonesia? vietnam? thailand? cambodia? maybe they share many of the same faults as mainlanders? maybe their people are as “disgusting” as mainlanders? maybe they’re as rude as mainlanders. i understand that you may be frustrated about living in China, but a “disgusting people”? a bit extreme there. hate generalizations

      • elizabeth

        They came, they courted and were rejected. Hell has no fury like a woman scorned.

      • moop

        but he didnt say that only the mainland has those faults

        • rainer

          damn straight!

        • Nick in Beijing

          Not to mention that none of those countries are the second largest economy in the world, who wields enormous political clout, and is growing aggressive and assertive in ways that are counter productive to regional stability on the same scale that China is capable of.

      • gregy

        Oh why don’t you go cry about it?

        If your best argument is that generalizations are bad, the you’ve got nothing. Generalizations serve a useful purpose, and everyone makes them. Deal with it.

        And yes, I will make the generalization that Chinese people are disgusting. Just today, I saw at least five kids pissing/shitting in the streets, a number of people spitting INDOORS, and sat next to some foul smelling people on the subway. Then, I look at the news and see the same nation of people doing insanely retarded things and having all sorts of childish/nationalistic/hateful temper tantrums about everything Japan. And this is just a typical day.

        You’re clearly so ‘tolerant’ of other cultures that you are tolerating Chinese people’s intolerance. Way to go, dumb-ass.

        Oh, and your nice little list of other developing countries: I’ve been to a number of the ones you’ve listed and have not seen idiotic things every time I’ve turned around and the people are generally cleaner and have a better sense of how others might perceive them.

        • AngryCanadien

          why are you calling me a dumbass? why are you so mad? b/c I disagreed with you? way to have a “civilized” conversation there. my post didn’t even have any hostile language in there. I just challenged your POV. and i’m not tolerating certain behaviour. i’m just saying that anyone in the world can go crazy and it’s not only chinese people. 2 years ago, vancouverites rioted b/c they lost the stanley cup championship. stupidity is everywhere
          you’ve been to those countries, but have you lived there as long as you have in china? if so, I’d like to read more about your comparisons. because I’ven’t lived in India, vietnam etc. so it’d be nice to know what you thought.

          • Well I don’t like you cause you act like a douchebag and make Canadians look bad. Not to mention it sounds like you fall into the E Puff/Notorious/Nanny Hiccups side of things by having no actual living experience, but acting like you do.

            So, yeah, I’m thinking asshat is a good nickname for you.

        • Northerner

          ‘Oh, and your nice little list of other developing countries: I’ve been to a number of the ones you’ve listed and have not seen idiotic things every time I’ve turned around and the people are generally cleaner and have a better sense of how others might perceive them.’

          Fucking spot on!

          Everywhere else I go in Asia I am still amazed that I do not find anything that repulses, revolts, saddens or pisses me off any where near the same level as things did in China. Haven’t been to North Korea yet but for now they are getting the benefit of the doubt.

      • Linette

        india?….Don’t even talk about India. They have this cast system and even their own people enjoying the cast system among themselves. It’s absolutely crazy.

        • Linette

          If China gov’t takes over the world we will al become slaves. If India gov’t takes over the world we will all become donkeys. I don’t know which is worst.

          • moop

            its doesnt matter. no one is worried about india taking over the world

          • The Enlightened One

            But I am a free donkey right?

            I prefer India then. lol

          • Linette

            free donkey…..

            You are free and starving living in slum. Oppressed by the india gov’t and the rich. Most of them still believe marriages being arranged among the same caste. Like low caste only marry to low caste. High caste marry to high caste.

            I don’t think I want to be a slave nor a donkey.

          • Winter B4 Spring

            LOL free dongkey!! :P

          • cc

            Just hope for all our sake its not Islam that takes over the world, that is most definitley the worst.

    • Nibiru

      he who call others dusgusting is the most disgusting

  • Cleo

    Buddy you’re a young man hard man
    Shoutin’ in the street gonna take on the world some day
    You got blood on yo’ face
    You big disgrace
    Wavin’ your banner all over the place

    We will we will rock you
    We will we will rock you

    Buddy you’re an old man poor man
    Pleadin’ with your eyes gonna make you some peace some day

    You got mud on your face
    You big disgrace
    Somebody better put you back in your place

    We will we will rock you
    We will we will rock you

    • Cleo

      I really hate that song but I know it will piss off Japan especially Akihito!

      • Cleo

        Especially since he’s DYING to tell the World that he got nuked on 3-11 but that would backfire because the Japanese would cower in the face of a superior force as smart goblins know to fear a bigger bully and then who would he collect taxes from?

        • 3-11?????? the Madrid bombings by muslims????

    • elizabeth

      I can see you are having a rockin’ go time here.

      • elizabeth

        …good…

  • moop

    what, no buildings on fire or cars smashed? no users of chinese goods beaten to near death? well, i’m sure they called for the deaths of an entire nation at least, since they are little japanese dogs… no, not that either… oh, thats right, i’m thinking of the chinese.

    close your eyes and imagine what it would look like if hundreds of barbarians aired out their grievances in protests. ok, now what did you see?

    • AngryCanadien

      what’s your point? i’m not excusing for what happened in china, but when i closed my eyes, I also saw pakistan, egypt, and libya too, thousands of barbarians calling for the death of America b/c of a movie made by one idiot. how about that $100,000 bounty put out by the Pakistani minister? but of course, you don’t see anything else other than china. your hatred so focused on one country.

      • The Enlightened One

        You’re right!

        He should build up more hatred and let it spill out onto all countries.

        Seriously, dude… the website is about China.

        • AngryCanadien

          that’s much better! if you’re gonna be a hater, hate EVERYTHING! lol.
          true, this site is about china and you can talk about what you think of the country, but i can still point out the hypocrisy in a person’s comment.

          • moop

            no its not hypocrisy… should i critique the protesting methods of the civilians in every country in the world in order to avoid being a hypocrite? hurrrrrrrrrrrrrr

            instead of being “angry in canada” why dont you try “reading in a library” dummy

          • elizabeth

            Be sure to do that with ‘style’.

          • AngryCanadien

            again with the name calling! I can pretty much be sure now that you have yet to graduate high school. a lot of teenage angst there i feel.

            didn’t say you have to criticize every country, but a little perspective and a little less generalization would be great. that’s all I ask, ok buddy?

          • moop

            i’m not your buddy, guyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

            I’m not your guy, friend!

            i might try to tone it down some, must be having flashbacks from arguing the other day with you

            http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&ved=0CDAQtwIwAg&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D-5uzJVkeaUI&ei=Wd9hUOH0JsbUtAayu4HwCg&usg=AFQjCNGv5IkMWZ5c7gPuP3pDf_vCuVfjQA

          • AngryCanadien

            it was very un-canadian of me to want to slap your face, even though I really wanted to. i ain’t a saintkj. haha. but serioulsy, there are just so much hate and hostility on this site. 80% of posters here are china haters and 20% are trying ask the haters to stop being so hateful.

          • moop

            i think most of that 20% misinterpret frustration and disappointment with hate and hostility. and there is also a small percent of people who want that 80% to not make any kind of value statements at all (not you, i’m thinking of people like anon). and i’ve said this a couple times, but the mainland chinese generalize themselves ALL the time and as long as they treat and view themselves as one amorphous block i’m not sure the habit of us generalizing them is going to go away anytime soon

          • markus

            i think its fair to say that people who use this site have both a love and hate for China… its always easier to remember why you hate and most people tend to be more negative than positive..

            our comments are sometimes filled with anger after having read some stupid story followed by stupid comments. However most of us who come to read Chinasmack wouldn’t come to this site if we didn’t also care about China and its future in fact IF we didn’t care about China or its future im sure we wouldn’t get as angry as we do.

            Its like when someone you love hurts you its a lot more painful than if someone you don’t know hurts you…

          • Nibiru

            What I see is the 80% of the sino-haters expressing their frustration and hostility about their bad experience with China.

      • moop

        you do realize that i am only comparing the protesting styles of 2 nations, the only two in this article, and the only two that are a part of this discussion, dont you? i also see pakistan, egypt, and libya…. does that sounds like good company to be in?

        look at the top of your browser jackass, it says chinasmack.com, i’ll also refer you to the topic of this specific article. you see anything about the middle east there? insecure much?

        and my point was contrasting the two styles of protesting using HYPERBOLE. chinese protested like uncivilized mongoloids, they japanese apparently do not. is that clear enough, or should i paint you a picture?

        • AngryCanadien

          uhhh, btw i didn’t insult you this time. and you call me a jackass?? for what? hey, just b/c this site is called chinasmack, it doesn’t mean i can’t express my opinion of what i believe to be you being unfair. but hey, call me names all you want, b/c you’re the “polite” and “civilized” person. anyway, that’s about all you can do behind a computer i guess. doubt you would actually have the guts to call anyone a jackass in front of their face.

          • moop

            i would, send me a picture, i’ll yell at it

          • C84

            Moop is one of the keyboard warriors who vents out their frustrations behind the anonymous cloak of the internet. She/he would never, ever say the same things he says online he says in public. If he did talk this way in public, he would be given a beating so severe he would be unable to turn on the computer.

          • C84: I happen to know moop personally. He would pound you through the floor into your downstairs neighbor’s apartment. But good call by you and Angry Canadian for trying to goof on him from behind your own computers.

          • moop

            pretty funny to call someone a keyboard warrior and then proceed to praise the use of nukes on the japanese…. clearly a product of mainland education

        • rainer

          AngryCanadiEn must be very stupid, I mean did he/she even read what he typed before publishing?
          Should of well understand what does it mean by Canada before you hit your refurbished Keys on your keyboard.

          • AngryCanadien

            it’s french spelling, dumbass! i speak French too!

          • Nibiru

            to C84: If that MFKer Moop dares say the samething in public in China like what he’s keyboard-worrior’ing here, believe me I swear I will crack and pierce his skeleton with the roadside brick if I were right there on-scene.

          • Getrealson

            AAAAAAAHAHAHAHAH! Run home little Chinaman before you get hurt! You sad little man! Why does he have to be in a public street? So the rest of the crowd can hold him while you try. Stay home you little Chinese nothing. The world is laughing at you!

          • whoa, Whoa, WHOA! Nibiru…none of you bitches are gonna get your hands on moop until I’ve had my way with him. Taunting me with details of his lunch at Sizzler while I’m choking down a fish-head and rice from my company dining room. He’s got to die!

            Burn in Hell, moop! I’m going to call you from my “gala” at the embassy and describe every bite. “nom nom nom nom….Hey moop, try the pate’. It’s exquisite. Oh wait, you can’t cuz you’re not here……nom nom nom”

            Revenge is a dish best served…….on sterling silver trays under glass.

        • Moop’s Mother (aka C84)

          Moop, this is your mother calling. I know you are mentally ill, but you’re not allowed to use my computer. Go back to your basement bedroom. You’re a very angry person, and I want you to make an appointment with the psychiatrist ASAP!!! because I’m afraid you’ve gone off your meds.

          [Note from chinaSMACK Moderator: Please do not use multiple names.]

          • Cooljackal

            Really…?

            Are we going to start with the elementary school behavior now?

        • Nibiru

          do those Mongoloids include your kinsmen-in-law? You MFKer

      • vince

        @ AngryCanadien the reason those countries do that is to vent their anger at their shitty economies and stuff, their psyche has been molded by the environment they live in, try living in places like Egypt, Pakistan and any of those other countries and you’ll totally understand why they’re insane.
        They believe that the US is to blame for many of the atrocities that muslims have faced in countries like Afghanistan, Iraq and so on, plus the fact that the US and Israel are on good terms doesn’t really help. You could say they found a collective reason to vent their anger, religion has it’s fair share of extremists so it’s not something new and one important point to notice is that they direct their anger at their ‘enemy’ which happens to be the US.
        Now let’s take China, ordinary folk decide to burn, loot and beat their own countrymen for the unforgivable crime of using Japanese made goods? Chinese have nothing invested in these Islands at all, let’s say that China did manage to reclaim them how would this benefit the common man? Let me give you some perspective, I asked my wife to change some dollars to RMB and guess what, the people at the money exchange tried to con her haha and my wife is….. CHINESE!
        What you don’t seem to understand is that most people here who complain about China would love to see some changes that would benefit the common man and perhaps reflection on one’s actions while in public. Look for example if you watch HK TV channels they always have PSA’s on all the time, that’s cause they are educating their people so they are more well informed.
        Now on the other hand watch TV Channels in China and tell me what you see, ads, ads and even more ads, what does that tell you?

  • the ace of books

    “Can’t believe Japan actually has a portion of people who have this attitude towards us.”

    No? Oh dear, you’re going to have a hard time with the news these next couple weeks.

    In seriousness, no, disingenuous hypocrisy is not cute. When your own country’s beating up Japanese folks or wasting Japanese cars (belonging to Chinese people) or protesting against the Japanese, don’t forget they’re doing the same thing on their side of the water, and don’t go taking the high ground.

    Frustrating. I’ve got friends who don’t like the looks of this. Hell, I don’t like the looks of it, but what do you prepare for?

  • The Enlightened One

    Sorry… Japanese may have been wild animals in the past but there were not unlike any other nation at war. It seems they have learned how to show their angst in a more civilized and sophisticated manner.

    The Chinese people on the other hand (well the huge mass that protested)… that was just pathetic. When will China learn that when you want to be a big dog, the whole world is watching and judging your every action…?

    And thus far, I have to say China is severely disappointing the rest of the world by how their handle their international affairs.

    • Chef Rocco

      “but there were not unlike any other nation at war.”

      Really? I thought you was enlightened.

      Heard about Unit 731 and live dissection of eight US airmen? Maybe you should read some history books to be enlightened

      http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19950604&slug=2124561

      • Nick in Beijing

        I’m American and this knowledge doesn’t anger me or incite hatred in me towards Japan.

        War throughout human history has been unfathomably brutal. Japan just happened to be one of the last at the end of an era.

        • Chef Rocco

          @Nick in Beijing, I knew this story wouldn’t anger many Americans like you and this is not my purpose to post it here. I don’t hate Japanese people too.

          Actually the story is not about hatred, it is about justice for the victims and closure for the victims’ family. The sad fact is that those Japanese doctors who conducted the grisly crime never got punished, they were set free by US occupying army and continued to work for US because they possess valuable knowledge of biological and chemical war. They lived a long lives and died in peace. Moreover, those A-class war criminals responsible for this are worshipped in shrine nowadays by Japanese. As an American, are you feel comfortable with the fact?

          Hmm.., I forget you are not one of the airmen’s family members, you may not care.

          • sonny

            my relatives did fight in WWII and still, it’s a nonissue to me. there are over two million soldiers enshrined at yasukuni. most were clearly not “a-class” war criminals. there are probably more than a few war criminals buried at arlington cemetery or listed on any given chinese memorial. that shouldn’t keep us from honoring those who fought.

            as for closure, real closure only comes with forgiveness. i like this quote:

            “At times, it feels more painful than the wound we suffered, to forgive the one that inflicted it. And yet, there is no peace without forgiveness.”

          • Chef Rocco

            @sonny, forgiveness is just a empty word, if not full of stupidity, without sincere repent and self-reflection from a fascistic nation that brought so much killings and tremendous sufferings to its neighboring countries during WWII.

            Probably you have known that Shinzo Abe most likely would be reelected as next premier minister of Japan. He is the grandson of wartime premier minister and violently denied existence of comfort women, questioned the validity of the Tokyo War Crimes Tribunal.

            Can you imagine that a Germany politician could be elected as a premier minister if he claims that Nuremberg Trials are illegal and invalid, the Holocaust was fabricated?

      • The Enlightened One

        I meant throughout history not just World War II… with the raping, pillaging, looting… etc.

        Besides, just because you haven’t heard about it… doesn’t mean other countries weren’t doing it it either. Some just got caught, while some are better at keeping secrets. Some just conducted the experiments on their own citizens.

        • Fraser

          You know I’m Scottish, and when I was in school I heard about a lot atrocities that the English committed against Scottish people in the 1700’s (e.g. the Highland Clearances). If I was using Chinese logic, then I should hate the English.

          In fact I don’t hate the English at all, my grandmother was English, my two nieces are English and I have a whole family in England. The Chinese keep banging on about stuff that happened 70-80 years ago. Well guess what, the world moved on, a long time ago, and honestly nobody gives a fuck because “that’s history”.

          What I don’t get is why Chinese people aren’t more concerned about the horrible things the CCP has done, and continues to do AGAINST THEIR OWN PEOPLE. A conquering army doing nasty things is one thing, but a government doing those things to their own people is just so much worse. They get so pissed off at the Japanese for what happened 80 years ago, why not get pissed of at the CCP for what happened in…1989?

          • Jennster

            “The Chinese keep banging on about stuff that happened 70-80 years ago. Well guess what, the world moved on, a long time ago, and honestly nobody gives a fuck because “that’s history”.”

            “why not get pissed of at the CCP for what happened in…1989?”

            ^ isn’t that history as well?
            same as cultural revolution and maozedong ruling times? why do you westeners keep talking about it?

          • Cooljackal

            Because there are people who are still alive from that time and still have it fresh in their memories. The people who were students back then are now the CCP leader’s ages.

          • DR SUN

            To answer cool Jack, the protesters from 1989 are either dead (terminated), missing or have been successfully re-educated into the harmonious society.
            But you are right most of their “college mates” are now big bosses, with their houses spread out all over China, Canada, USA, Europe and their (well their stolen Chinese peoples money) spread out amongst their own families various off shore accounts around the world.

          • Jennster

            isn’t 1989, cultural revolution and maozedong history as well? china moved on. why do you westeners keep mentioning them? LOL

          • DR SUN

            @ Jennister,
            maybe because it’s the Prince-lings and Princesses of the party Guard like you, that will ultimately destroy China.

          • mr. wiener

            Westerners shouldn’t hang on to the past…..?! Sweetie what the hell do Chinese do?! “I hate the Japanese, they did this” , “I can recite the 8 countries that humiliated China last century”, “Never forget the opium wars”.
            I think what you are trying to say is Westerners should have a better knowledge of Chinese history than most Chinese people.

          • mr. wiener

            …Shouldn’t have…sorry typo.

          • Jennster

            haha. so are alive the men and women and comfort women of ww2. hypocrite much? it is no wonder the world does not trust westeners, let alone china. you’ve brought it on yourselves :D

          • Getrealson

            why do you post on this site jennster! Your English is disgusting! It’s so bad no one understands what you’re saying so they try to get you to clarify, and your responses to the clarifications are childish dribble. Go back to Weibo or something.

          • mr. wiener

            Jen, really did not understand that last comment or who it was directed at. Could you post it again please?

          • DR SUN

            Jennster,
            Comfort woman, yes a terrible thing, an abomination of how the Chinese Generals, army and leaders, run off from the fight, money being more important than their women, their wives, their daughters and their sisters. A truly huge humiliating shame for Chinese manhood.
            But now we can burn Japanese cars in the street and call a fishing rock ours

          • Cooljackal

            I think the “alive” comment may have been directed at me.

  • Rod

    “Both Japanese people and Americans are loathsome like this, always bullying us Chinese”

    …because anything that happens anywhere is about America and Americans.

    • The Enlightened One

      I told you guys in the previous articles they would bring the Americans into it (regarding these protests). They even harassed the American Ambassador’s car during the protests… I think in Shanghai could of been Beijing.

      They think the Americans are always the puppet masters of all democratic countries and out to get them.

      That train is never late!

      • Cooljackal

        Probably because we are, haha

        Talk about us not learning from decades of blowback.

  • waihang

    “5 Reasons Why the X Islands are Not Chinese Territory ”
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnlr_OBN2uw
    Is that an accurate video, just want your opinions.

  • blah

    Just wondering why there was never a story up on the original protests in China and just this story about protests in Japan…I know you guys are operating from within the firewall and all but talk about balance…..or lack of. The Chinese protests involved flipped cars and burning department stores…..

    Oh and not to mention the “riot” at foxconn recently, which was actually probably warranted but from the videos I saw seemed fairly peaceful just peeople walking around

    • ChinaSmack is afraid of the CCP boogieman. Not me though, Fuck ’em!

      • AngryCanadien

        I dare you to unfold a fuck the CCP banner at Tiananmen square! LOL. oh and you must have picture proof or else you didn’t do it.

        • mr. wiener

          I had some pictures of me mooning the big portrait of Mao in Tianamen many years ago, but the flash didn’t catch him to well and it’s very unclear. Had to run like hell afterwards into the waiting taxis.
          Ah to be young and stupid again.

      • Winter B4 Spring

        i say do it, kopykat, do it!!! prove it to angrycanadien :P

        • Winter B4 Spring

          …and as elizabeth put it above, gotta do it with “style”.

          • I’ve always wanted to go visit the Mausoleum in T-Square and hork a luggie on the Great Helmsman. =oD

          • Winter B4 Spring

            do it! kopykat! do it! and with style… :D

    • The Enlightened One

      I was wondering about that too. Obviously it was big news all around China, yet why not on ChinaSMACK?

      ChinaSMACK picks and translates stories that have been sort of “pre-approved” by the government since they have already appeared on sites such as Sina Weibo and others. And also popular.

      Therefore there isn’t really any risk. Going out of those borders could get this site shut down faster than you could type a response to this post.

    • There are no bad things in China, there is only the Japanese assault on the Diaoyu Islands.

    • We did not know how sensitive it could become. You are not a Chinese citizen so it may be difficult for your to understand our considerations. We tried to report about the issue through other ways such as the Taiwan reaction and the Sola Aoi incident and many of the translated Chinese netizen comments refer to the protests in China too. I hope you will be respectful of our situation.

      • The Enlightened One

        Fauna this comment reeks of segregation and assumptions that all Chinese think the same.

        I don’t know why but when you put a comment together like this it makes me angry. Strike that, I do know the reason. Because a foreigner is being put into a box because he isn’t Chinese and couldn’t possibly understand how “us” (the legions of China) feel about the situation.

        I don’t think how you reported it was even close to how the event unfolded. Many people lost property, there was violence and even some threats towards Americans. None of this was displayed in your articles.

        How long must “an outsider” as we are always reminded, live in China before he or she is part of an “our situation” in China?

        I may be looking too much into it, but I smell a lot of underlying segregation in your mental stance.

        • You have completely misunderstood. There are sensitive topics that may be controlled in the media and internet and can affect reporters and netizens. You are not a Chinese citizen so if you get in trouble, you can go back to your country. That is not the same thing that can happen to us. We did not know how the government may deal with the protests issue so we were cautious.

          How can you think I think Chinese all think the same?

          • The Enlightened One

            Understood, I possibly did read too much into it.

            Just had flashbacks of things like…

            Foreigners can’t possibly learn how to do things like… Speak Chinese, Play Ma Jiang, Landlord… etc.

            It’s a side effect from being here too long. My apologies.

          • Worried the tanks would roll and thousands would be slaughtered. China is due for another round of mass culling. so perhaps you were wise.

          • DR SUN

            Fauna, the first people to rescue you (this site) will be all the arm chair Revolutionaries and freedom fighters from the west, like The enlightened one, b4, weiner, Koopykat, Elizebeth, Whiskers.. etc..etc.
            They will all quit their jobs,leave their families, fly to China, live here, defend and support you, even if it meant jail time torture or even death for them.

            They will, they say they have backbone, passion, commitment to all things right.

            or are they just full of “smack” ?

          • mr. wiener

            “They will all quit their jobs,leave their families, fly to China, live here, defend and support you, even if it meant jail time torture or even death for them”.
            Um….I’ll write an angry letter to CNN , does that count?

          • elizabeth

            …and Dr Sun would wet his pants while running home to mama.

      • Fuana I posted about it on my blog. Got hacked around the same time. Surprise surprise. I even posted the pick of the recently disappeared protesters that raised banners calling for Freedom, Democracy, Human Rights, and Constitutionalism. BeijingCream ran this pic and quote too. Some of us are not afraid.

        • Canadian_Skies

          Yep, and various forums are noting the disappearance of Japanese in China thought to have gone underground for safety but have not resurfaced. Another post stated mass female Japanese students in Tianjin had been raped, but nothing has made newspapers.

        • mr. wiener

          Some non holders of foreign passports have much more to lose than you.

          • “Some non holders of foreign passports have much more to lose than you.” Exactly, just look at AiWeiWei…

            Still, if everyone acted like AiWeiWei, the regeime would crumble. Power of the masses!

        • the ace of books

          “Some of us are not afraid.”

          What Mr Weiner said. And: some nationals have more to lose. And: some people choose their battles. And: some people don’t go blasting their mouth about everything. And: some people have good reasons to not say things. And: some people have consequences to deal with, far more important than showing off the size of your antinational balls to the internet.

          Seriously, calling people who don’t shoot off about political issues “afraid” is idiotic. Calling someone a coward just because they don’t engage in the same kind of loudness over sensetive issues that you do? Shit, no, son. Grow up and learn that people have reasons for not saying something.

      • blah

        I understand, but honestly cannot respect a situation where people must walk on eggshells over important events like this

        You have concerns I don’t, I think most people here get that, and so my criticism isnt really pointed at you but more this whole mess that is bred primarily from ignorance. Keep doing what you do its a valuable service but cognitive dissonance tends to get my blood boiling…..

        and as others have stated, the whole “you wouldnt understsand” is the biggest pile of shit ever

      • DR SUN

        ” Um….I’ll write an angry letter to CNN , does that count? ”

        Don’t forget Fox news and you can surely mobilize a militia from the NRA, Michigan etc..that could be in China whenever Fauna needs it.

        (or would the yellow skin, not work for those freedom fighters for freedom, equality and democracy ?)

    • Winter B4 Spring

      LOL “just people walking around” is a “riot” in China to the CCP, cos the CCP says so!! whatever the CCP says, Xinhua follows. *shrug*
      All anyone needs to do is stand in a group of…ONE…just alone…with a message to the party…and you are “inciting subversion” or “inciting riot”.
      For eg, write a love letter to President Hu, tell him how much you love him and his suit, and visit the petition office in Beijing. That’s it. Ya get thrown in jail. Maybe they’ll try to concoct some allegations that the letter has poison or something. :P
      p/s: not bashing China, just criticising the “party” here.

      • Winter B4 Spring

        …and i m not saying President Hu is responsible for the current culture of dictatorship. Just saying :P

    • moop

      its was a riot at foxconn? i heard it was a brawl

      • Winter B4 Spring

        *bang* *boom *kapow* *!@#$%*

      • iRiot!

      • chinese are lucky had it been america all 2000 workers face jail time. In China they let them go :P

        • Bo Xilai For Emperor

          are you on drugs starting?

      • mr. wiener

        Sounds like one of the stories Coalabanana used to tell.

    • Winter B4 Spring

      I always seem to think Chinasmack operated OUT of the firewall…? no? dang must self-censor myself now…

  • JC

    Japanese people can write English??? 0.O

    • The Enlightened One

      Yup, and foreigners can speak/write Chinese/Japanese too!

      Can you imagine that?!!

  • Beijinger in California

    What does the sign about Chinese students studying in Japan say? It’s in the same picture as the sign about china not claiming diaoyu until 1971.

    • Winter B4 Spring

      i dont read jap. i’m guessing, it says: “Konichiwa, anatawa bagaro! banzai!”

      • Winter B4 Spring

        see how polite they are. they greet you first. then say it to you :P

        or…

        it says: “sakura, sakura, ya yo i no so ra wa”

    • Ray

      I think it says:
      “Chinese boats going to Senkaku gets sunk, but Chinese international students still get 150k yen support per month?”

      I could be wrong though.

  • Deepzen

    Isn’t Asian Nationalism fun? This is what happens when you don’t teach history kids…

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  • Dat Ankle

    That guy that wants Japan to have nukes really wants the world against him.

  • moonmickey

    Its a huge embarrassment to be associated with China these days, they’ve really showed the world how they are going to behave if not given exactly what they want when they want. Very dangerous and easily manipulated people.

  • Japan > China ><

  • fannypack

    Is that a Tibetian independence protestor on the right in the seventh picture?

  • Canadian_Skies

    腾讯成都市网友 喂、小方块他:

    Can’t believe Japan actually has a portion of people who have this attitude towards us. I wonder what sort of propaganda the Japanese government used to change their people’s knowledge of their past fascist war. How can they not feel even the slightest bit of shame?! Get out of our planet?! Fucking better be careful, every single one of us can breath out two extra breathes of carbon dioxide and have you wiped off the planet. Destroying you guys is this easy.

    Canadian_Skies: What opinion would you demand they have of you? You so easily ignore the entire Chinese documented history with the islands and claim Japan doesn’t have any knowledge of the past? You sir, are the epitome of a Chinese constructed bridge. Cheaply made, and crumbles at the first sign of use.

  • Jennster

    apparently because 6 chinese patrol ships went in ‘their’ territory.
    im glad beijing is the capital, so in case there is a beijing massacre in the future it’s northerners that dies.

  • Oh Dear!

    japanese people in this picture are not very attractive. koreans were bless with attractiveness. so i guess korea ftw

  • Racesunite

    I say drop three atomic bombs on the fucking Japs and exterminate those cockroaches.

    • C84

      I’d agree with you. Gather up the Japanese right wing extreme nationalists and politicians up first and toss them into a hellish bonfire.

      • moop

        pretty tough talk from behind your keyboard… hurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

    • Rob

      3s not nearly enough. Just reduce it glass… China needs a new parkinglot anyways.

    • Alice S

      I agree.

  • Alexander

    Run everyone before they send their samurais to commit suicide in front of all of us…… I know, get the Mongolian Horde to drive them out! Quick open a hole in the Great Wall so the Golden Horde can ride through to chase out the Japanese…

    • C84

      What would be done with all the Japanese bodies if they all commit seppuku? I hate cleaning, so they should do mass seppuku in their country to “protest/express their displeasure,” and then the vultures/insects can take care of the rest.

      • moop

        hey mouth-breather, tough talk internet warrior. did you know that china and japan’s suicide rates are about the same right? and the suicide rate for women in china is higher than in japan? that explains a lot considering that most of the men are as pathetic as you. your hatred for the japanese still doesnt change the fact that you’re a barbarian compared to them

        • moop

          not to mention the japanese masses seem at least intelligent enough to separate people and their governments… guess which country’s masses arent? i’ll give you a hint, it starts with “zhi” and ends in “na”

          • Moop’s Mother (aka C84)

            Moop, this is your mother. You are a very bitter, mentally ill person who should not be using the internet and posting nonsensical diatribes on chat boards. Go back on your medication, sweetie.

            [Note from chinaSMACK Moderator: Please do not use multiple names.]

          • moop

            aww, not c84, thats not vewwy nice

      • Alice S

        I support Japs protesting CH by seppuku.

  • Misiooo

    I’ve seen on Reuters that there were two Chinaman trying to block this protest. Nothing happened to them. Picture two Japanese trying to block protests in China! Images from the last minutes of movie ‘Perfume’ come to my mind when the crowd devoured alive the main character…

  • grovesman

    @ Boris:

    If you’re talking about the guy in the green headgear…look a little closer…it seems to be either a T-shirt tied to look like a “do-rag” or a “do-rag”. Not even close to the Imperial Army cap.

  • MAO-420

    If it wasnt for the communist party, China would not have come up so fast.
    China would have be divided in to 4 or 5 countries. Maybe even more. The definition “Chinese” will no longer be so vague. I can easily see Canton and Shanghai as seperate countries. Xinjiang,Yunnan and Tibet will definately bring religous and tribal factors into account.
    Neighbouring countries will continously fight over land and shared resources. Transport routes will be a havoc. Neighbouring countries may not coperate with transporting of goods from one region to another. Anyting that could have been delivered within 2 hourts may take upto 48 hours after re-routing and custom checks.
    But the World will be balanced as other countires will equally benefit from China’s destruction. Becoming equally, if not more competitive in price and delivery.
    Beijing is what keeps China together. Being together is what makes Chinese stronger and others weaker.

    • Jennster

      yep like i’ve said, my mum can slap me, but not a outsider. :D

      • moop

        spoken like a true slave

        • Jennster

          ofc that has never happened to me. but im just tating a possibility on behalf of chinese people. you are a yank darl. go with ur own ways. :D

      • Boris

        And I bet she does. Frequently.

  • Jennster

    i have a strange personality. only i can gain others must be worse of than me. thus i support the current govt. yep i said it. :D

    • moop

      “only i can gain others must be worse of than me”

      wow, and i thought maybe you’re just shitty online. i cant imagine a worse kind of personality. this awful attitude of yours is why china has so many societal problems.

      • Jennster

        like i’ve always said, we live and die by our own laws. the country is developing and the highest populated in the world, social problems are expected. at least it is improving.

        yep i am shit because i am the minority of asians on here disagreeing with yankee parasite behaviour on fauna’s site. you need to understand, you are just another loser foreigner who choose to live there for whatever reason. the chinese do not need to cater to u because you are a yank.

        ^_^

  • Poltergeist

    Linette wrote: “I think China should send all the north koreans refugees like 400,000 of them to philippine and have the philippine gov’t feed them provide them with healthcare and schools. It will save China 1 billion dollar each year, which then they can use it on fixing and helping the china rural people.”

    Last info I got was that it’s actually China that is supporting North Korea. But of course you know better…

  • Appalled@everything

    Hi all. I stopped posting here and this one I thought warranted a comment from me, or at least, a question to all Expats like myself living in China.

    Do you think there will be a war? Do you think we need to leave?

    I am not being facetious or inflammatory. I plan to leave anyway, but I mean, I hear regular fighter jet flyovers almost every night, repeatedly, and loud loud air raid sirens being tested here in Shanghai, so I really don’t know what to think. Is this going to turn into a war?
    I mean, one of those sandwich boards in the above photos said “Get Nuclear Weapons”.. wtf? (which from a Japanese is absolutely baffling).

    So yeah, could you give me your feelings and your plans, if any.

    Cheers.

    • cc

      I think you need a good stiff drink to make you come back to reality.

    • Getrealson

      Appalled, this is God!

      I want you to build an Ark! A ship that can weather any storm. Then I want you to fill it with two of each animal so that they can flourish after the storm. Except the Chinese who are to stupid to flourish anywhere. In their place, stock it with bacteria as it has the same properties without all the noise.

      Now go! honor me with this task.

      Amen

      • Brett Hunan

        God doesn’t make spelling mistakes.

        • Getrealson

          haha! which word?

          • Getrealson

            oh, I see!

          • elizabeth

            Did it take you 36 minutes to find your dictionary?

          • Getrealson

            yeah, it was with your calculator!

      • Nibiru

        Simple and sheer nationalist who really should be removed from earth

  • Akuma

    Japan declared Senkaku as our territory in 1895, China claimed Senkaku in 1971 after potential underground resources was found. Going by history, apparently it is true.

    • elizabeth

      Why only after 39 years do you claim and defend your territory?

      • elizabeth

        41 years…

      • Northerner

        Did it take you 7 minutes to find your calculator?

        • Northerner

          9 minutes…

          • elizabeth

            Ok, you win, by 8 minutes.

  • Rob

    Go ahead 小日本, just try to start shit. China will just say fuck it and nuke you to dust.

    • Wayne

      War always seems glorious until it happens and then when the dust settles everyone realizes they were hot headed fools tricked by the newspapers.

      • Rob

        The rest of asia won’t miss 小日本 though.

        • Robisadumbass

          If China actually nuked Japan the United States would wipe China and North Korea off the map in a matter of minutes, and then thank the Chinese for giving them the excuse.

          Big talking pussies like you are always so eager for innocent people to die. Go play some more Counter Strike and fantasize about having a big dick – it will make you feel better without hurting anyone…

          • Jennster

            so will the 335 million yanks also be nuked. :D

          • cool

            And all the usless 1 billion plus peasant chinks

          • Alice S

            I don’t think there’s any need right now to curse Maricar over the Diaoyu Islands. I’ve read Marican comments on the Diaoyus & they are surprisingly neutral. Some say the islands should be split… Half is better than none. Some say if there is a war they will support CH because no one likes the Jap track record. That’s more than enough we can be thankful about. :)

          • k

            No they won’t actually, because it’d destroy their own economy in the process, and embroil them in WW3 basically. Americans aren’t that stupid; they only attack countries that can’t fight back, because once the war hits American soil, their democracy won’t be able to control the upset masses, used to living in peace times.

          • cool

            Fuktards America has been at war consistently for the last century, china got raped in ww2 and got lucky the US didn’t nuke them in korea.once nukes start flying nobody gives a fuk about your sweatshops or the economy

          • Exman

            People like you should die, I can’t believe you could say such things about people who have died so horribly in wars.

          • Exman

            Pffft……. Um, glorious China? Lol, great and Glorious China? What happened at WWII and Korean War? The whole reason that America can’t fight China is because not just for economy, but of our formidable military. It ain’t technology alone, it’s morale, bravery and skill which wins wars. China has proven itself even in it’s weak times, and you think a few nukes can wipe us out? Then why not wipe us out now? Half the world hates us, but you’re all still scared. Fuck off you racist scum.

  • Bill Stack

    Domo arigato, Mr. Roboto Mata o hima de

    • Winter B4 Spring

      do i ta shi ma shi te!!

  • sara

    日本军国主义又复燃了

    • Vault Dweller

      Derp Derp

  • Sherry

    I noticed that majority of people in this demonstration are middle-aged and old people whereas majority of people in the Chinese demonstration are very young men. Is my observation true?

  • Nibiru

    A quote from 闾丘露薇’s Sina blog:
    “激进的反日人士,往往会让我想起日本的那些右翼分子,因为思维方式很类似。每次去采访中国领导人访问日本,酒店还有一些活动场所的外围,总是会有几辆右翼组织的卡车,还有酒店附近右翼人士的集会。最惊险的一次,是在早稻田大学门口,我们好几家香港媒体在拍摄和做直播,几个右翼人士站到我们面前开始谩骂,阻碍我们的工作,最终惊动警察。为了避免事态恶化,警察劝我们先离开。这次近距离的接触发现了一个有趣的现象: 原来这些右翼人士里面,有不少中国人,那几个情绪最激烈的,都带着闽南口音,年纪都已经不轻。”
    See the last sentence: Among the Japanese right-wing anti-China protestors, a certain number of them are with Chinese ancestry,vehemently protesting with Hokkien accent, and they are not young. Why?why?

  • DR SUN

    It’s going to be a interesting war , are the Japanese coast Guard both samurai & Kamikaze, are the Taiwain and PRC fishermen ” Kung Fu hero’s” from a past dynasty ?

    Is it going to be shown live on pay for view IFC , with some real action !!

    or is this just BS ?

  • Hongjian

    http://freebeacon.com/manchu-missile-launch/

    DF-41 ICBM hidden in 3000 miles of hardened tunnels under the tibetan mountains, each 12.000 km range, with ten MIRVed 150 kilo-ton thermonuclear warheads, and equipped with penetration aids and decoys.

    All the US cities including their obese fucking population will turn into dust if the US attempts to butt into this conflict.

    Japan has to give up these islands and finlandize themselves sooner or later, if they want to surive and maintain their status as a country and not as a parking lot.

    Also, it will be foolish to assume that only the communist party or the (ROC govt for that matter) claim these islands that are rightfully belonging to the Chinese nation. Even with “Beijing getting out of this planet”, the Japanese and the Americunts will still have to deal with subsequent democratic or non-democratic chinese governments who will have to serve the nation’s inherent territorial interests. Even without Beijing and the govt. being in Nanjing, Japan will experience no good end in continiously holding onto their their historic landgrab of their aggression of the first sino-japanese war of 1895.

    And also the USA will still be turned into a parking lot by DF-41 and JL-2 ICBM/SLBMs if they think that without Beijing, China will give up their claims and bow to the historical injustice done to them by the Americans and Japanese.

    Beijing doesnt always represent the people, but in this case, it does. The entirety of the Chinese people and nation on both sides of the strait.

    If you mess with us, you die. Learn this, americunts and japs.

    • sonny

      lol, yes, clearly the most likely scenario.

    • Getrealson

      That’s the funniest thing I’ve read all day! Thank you HJ.

      But let’s get real here son…… Chinese people are not tough, they are by nature cowards. They also have a unique ability of taking even the most simple of tasks (Let alone a co-ordinated and complicated missile launch) and fucking it up so bad that you would probably end up bombing beijing. Every day in China I see examples of stupidity that would that would make primates shake their heads. I am fairly well travelled having been to many first, second and third world countries and can say without any apprehension that Chinese people in general are the dirtiest, rudest, most un-educated, self deceived, morally corrupt people I have ever come across. What do you think the worlds opinion of chinese people really is? A force to be reconed with? ha ha ha….You funny little man.

      Your officials sit at their lavish banquets and raise their glasses of MaoTai, telling eachother how great they are and the glorious nation of China. This closer resembles pigs at a trough, rather than the calculating strategists you suggest, that could launch missiles at other countries. If just one component of those missiles were made in China, there is more chance of you idiots just blowing up Tibet. Nothing of quality comes out of China except foreigners going home.

      You act and talk tough but you, me and the rest of the world for that matter, know the truth. You are a persecuted, dimwitted, narrowminded slave. A cog in the machine with no individuality and always will be.

      As for me? well……I’ll be heading home soon to my tropical Island and blue skies, white sandy beaches, subsidised health care, a block of land the size of a small chinese city that I own outright which I will pass on to my children with my governments blessing. OH YEAH….. WITH one of your beautiful women aswell. One less for you to mistreat! Guess the idea of a Chinese 2 inch dick is too much for most Chinese women to bear.

      Good Luck with your little rocks!
      AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

      • Cooljackal

        Hahaha, I almost choked while laughing at this!

        “They also have a unique ability of taking even the most simple of tasks (Let alone a co-ordinated and complicated missile launch) and fucking it up so bad that you would probably end up bombing beijing.”

        • Getrealson

          Chinese prove it every day!

      • Vault Dweller

        ‘Chinese are all terrible and bad and shitty but oh, i’m taking one as my eternal soul mate’

        • Not me.

        • Cooljackal

          And eternal soul mate is a little emo don’t you think?

          Maybe short-term organic companion?

          • Vault Dweller

            It was a juxtaposition with his rather negative comments of Chinese people before. I just find it a bit funny that someone can be so overwhelmingly negative about Chinese people but still take one in marriage. I’m guessing most of the negativity is towards the males?

          • Cooljackal

            Naw, I’m sure it’s nothing personal. When a large population displays traits that you deem very negative then it’s easy to love someone from that population who stands out in a positive way.

          • Vault Dweller

            I dunno. It seems a little too hate-filled to be taken that seriously (penis size insults.) I’m just wondering if he harbours dislike for the male population only, since that’s the vibe it gave off, at least to me.

            @getrealson I’m guessing you don’t consider your wife dimwitted or servile? I’m just curious, you truly seem to dislike Chinese, wouldn’t it be better marrying someone from your own country? Then you wouldn’t be at risk of any of those despised traits showing up later.

            Have to admit, I did like the ‘nothing quality comes out of China’ line. Lolol

          • Well, the girls certainly circumvent the negative characteristics of most of the males. (5’3″ lightweight doofs that somehow are covinced they’re alpha males with inferiority complexes at the same time) “Cool” just does not exist for these guys. Of all the Chinese guys(locals, not ABC) I’ve met I have 1 friend that I consider a friend for life and displays the qualities that I think a man should strive for. I don’t think I’m stuck up or snobbish, I just find most of the “men” I meet here are quite annoying even when I know they’re trying to be polite.

        • mr. wiener

          Chinese Culture I think rather than Chinese people. Most Chinese folks outside of their parent culture bloom like seedlings after a long drought. A few unfortunately [Jin and Jenster spring to mind] think that drought is their natural condition and rebel against the western climate. Bad mummy syndrome maybe.
          I’m not a great believer in love and eternal soulmates crap. It sounds like new age bs mixed with trashy women’s romantic fiction.
          I do know however the person I’m with now I like the best out of all the women I’ve ever met, I can happily be with her most of the time without wanting to strangle her [except for the odd occasion] and she puts up with my bs and feels the same way about me.
          Lets call it love then, the long term one, not the one you get which is the same as eating too much chocolate.

          Incidently I think Chinese culture is changing, slowly [glacial pace] , but surely. We’ll see in the future if Chinese remains the land too vast and unruly to be ruled…kindly.

        • Getrealson

          @VAult dweller

          That whole post and that’s all you got? and who said eternal soul mate? and I noticed you don’t post, just reply (selectively)to other people. Real brave. Jog on dickhead!

          • Vault Dweller

            That’s what I gathered from your comment. Tell me, are Chinese women different to the ‘2 inch’ Chinese men?

            To answer your questions, I was the one that said ‘eternal soul mate.’ It was me poking fun at your statements – you seem to rather dislike one portion of Chinese, but seem quite fond of another. And no, I have posted without replying to others. You will gain one internets per post you find.

            Finally, I don’t know what bravery has to do with this. Please refrain from dishing out hurtful words like ‘dickhead’ so my self-esteem may stay intact, many thanks.

          • Getrealson

            Just to clarify, My post was in response to Hongjian. I felt he needed a little reality check and I thought I would TRY to give him a little. Although I am starting to suspect that he is not even Chinese or maybe even an alter-ego of another user.

            @Vault dweller, maybe calling you a dick-head was a bit harsh and I apologise, I was coming off the end of a rant and knee jerked.

            I am always open to posters who have a different opinion/position on a certain subject and have in the past after being made aware that my position was weak, rethought certain things so calling you a dickhead was a little contrary to that train of thought and once again, I’m sorry.

            In regards to soulmate, I am at the age where I have played the field and come to the conclusion that the childish notion of soulmate or perfect match is a distant second to someone I don’t feel like hanging over the edge of a building by the feet to get my point across. Her being Chinese has nothing to do with it as I have dated Chinese, Japanese, black, brown red and it just so happens she fits the mould.

            In conclusion, I don’t hate Chinese I hate people who contrary to facts, evidence and reason continue to behave as though their righteous. Which is why I am an athiest but we won’t start that here.

        • tai wai

          Usually we take ones that agree that Chinese are shitty.

          My wife refused to date Chinese men. She knew they were scoundrels.

          She loves her country (as do I), she just doesn’t like the caliber of the men running everything. They just don’t measure up.

          *snerk*

          Get it? “Caliber?” Meaning both “degree of competence” and “diameter of something tube-shaped?”

          HA!

          • Vault Dweller

            @Getrealson No problem dude, I agree with you on the whole soul mate thing too. I was just being a dick, so apologies on my behalf as well.

            @Little Wolf thanks for the explanation.

    • cool

      Hahaha dumb chink

  • Persimmon5

    Just because a Japanese person feels that the Senkaku/Diaoyu Islands belong to Japan doesn’t automatically make him/her a right winger. Japanese are used to thinking of those islands as theirs since 1895 for all the reasons they give. You might not agree with those reasons, but I believe most Japanese have grown up with that assumption. So to them it feels like another country is trying to take away what was rightfully claimed by their country over 100 years ago. And that claim (via terra nullius) was reinforced by the fact the Allied occupying forces relinquish the islands to Japan in 1952 (?). Japan has been administering the islands ever since and most citizens (many of whome weren’t even born at that time) have just assumed it was part of their territory. So they feel they are protecting what is theirs. So yes, some of those demonstrators may be virulently right-wing militarist types (and sure, there is a danger of the rise of militarism in any number of Asian countries) , but most of those demonstrators are probably just ordinary people who are rather bewildered by all the controversy. It is important to distinguish between a country’s government and its people. Do you know there was actually a peace movement in Japan in the early 1900’s that was against Japanesel aggression in other countries (these were mainly Japanese socialists, who unfortunately weren’t able to gain sufficient influence). There were also many ordinary non-political Japanese people who just “went with the program” because they were brought up to follow their leader’s decisions. I’m not making excuses for Japanese or any other brand of colonialism. But isn’t that the way it works in most countries even today? Our only hope as a human species is to thoroughly educate ourselves about world history, but not let our disgust at man’s inhumanity to man cloud our ability to connect as individuals from all nations, to be citizens of the world. As soon as we say “All Korean are this,” “All Japanese think this” All Americans do this” we are thinking in generalizations, stereotypes. And as my father once said to me: “The sign of true intelligence is to be able to distinguish how two or more things or phenomena are different and how two or more things or phenomena are alike. Don’t lump things together that shouldn’t be lumped.” I wish you all well and let us hope and pray for peace.

    • persimmon5

      I need to make a date correction to my above comment. The Allied occupying forces relinquished the islands to Japan in 1971 or 1972, not 1952. Lazy me for trying to guess at the date. Apologies. In any case, Japan controlled the Senkakus/Diaoyu islands since 1895 to the present except from 1945 to 1972. And my main point here is that as a result of this, most Japanese naturally assume the islands are part of the territory of Japan. Japanese people and anyone else who state the islands are Japan’s are not necessarily right-wing militarists!

  • k8

    China should take this opportunity to increase trade with South Korea and Taiwan, decrease trade with Japan, since everybody is angry with Japan right now. They should be thanking Japan for providing a common enemy for everybody else to unite against, ultimately solidifying their position against US interests in the region. It’s a good move on the government’s part to be largely passive in this situation.

    • chopsuey22

      I agree totally

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