From Sina, “12 year old girl forced to live with a man, gives birth to a son 1 year later“:
As parents who are too busy with careers and no time to discipline their child, a 12-year-old daughter met a bad man at an Internet cafe, and not only suffered rape, but was also forced to live with him for 2 years. Consequently, the child gave birth to a son before she was even 14 years old.
October 14th, the man who caused so much trauma was sentenced to 9 years prison by the Shapingba district court on a rape charge, the judge revealed yesterday.
Passing time at the Internet Cafe – meeting a rapist
Xiaohua (alias), whom is 15-years-old this year, is from Hechuan. A few years ago, she moved to the Shapingba district with her parents. Her mother works as a rice and noodle seller at the farmer’s market, and her father is a motorcycle taxi driver. Because her parents normally are unable to look after her, young Xiaohua often visits the Internet cafe to pass time. In September 2005, 12-year-old Xiaohua met a young man 6 years her senior. Eyeing Xiaohua cute/lovable looks, he formed a devious plan.
That year on the National Holiday, as Xiaohua was at the Internet cafe surfing the web, she was coerced by the man into his apartment.
Raped at 12 years of age – being held against her will
Upon realizing his intent, Xiaohua broke into tears saying she was only 12-years-old. However, her pleas did not get her any pity. After being raped by the man, Xiaohua was then imprisoned in the man’s apartment. He threatened: “If you date to leave, I will kill your entire family!” From that moment on, scared Xiaohua didn’t dare bring up the subject of returning home, and also didn’t dare to contact her family.
With Xiaohua’s disappearance, her parents bitterly searched without results and finally reported her missing to the police. However, the local police station kept saying they didn’t have any leads.
One day a few months later, Xiaohua suddenly returned home. Her parents found out that she had frequently been abused, but finally escaped by slipping away while the man left the house which was merely 1 kilometer away. Her timid parents did not report it to the police. Instead, they let Xiaohua go into hiding at her grandmother’s home in Sichuan.
Escaping his clutches – only to be threatened again
To their disbelief, just as Xiaohua left for her grandmother’s, the rapist burst into her parent’s home. Under interrogation at knife-point, the mother called Xiaohua’s grandmother. “If you don’t come home, you can collect your mother and your older sister’s corpse!” the man’s voice boomed through the telephone line.
Xiaohua obediently returned to Chongqing immediately, and have since been using the status as the man’s “girlfriend” to visit the Internet cafe, karaoke bars, and other social locations. Last year March 8th, not yet 14-years-old, Xiaohua gave birth to a baby boy.
March of this year, due to a friend’s blackmail, the man let Xiaohua return home to get money. Because they were unable to get the money, her parents eventually told the police about their daughter’s rape. On March 20th, the man was arrested at an Internet cafe.
Parents lacking discipline – leading to tragedy happening
“Xiaohua’s parents didn’t fulfill their responsibility [as parents]” Shapingba District Judge Wang Xinli said, this tragedy happening as a result of Xiahua’s parents not educating their child to protect herself and be assertive.
Wang Xinli said: actually, Xiaohua had many opportunities to escape the dangerous situation: During her rape, she could shout for help, getting the attention of the neighbors; Upon successfully escaping and returning home, she could have told the police, etc. Not only did she not do any of these things, she even accompanied the rapist to the Internet cafe and other public places, so everyone thought she was his “girlfriend.” It is exactly because of her surrender/compliance that the man was even more fearless.
Comments from Sina:
The girl is too timid! And even more so, she doesn’t have a desire for self-protection! Also, the criminal was let off too easily, only sentenced 9 years. These kind of people should have gotten their roots cut off, sentenced for 40 years, or even 80! 90? See if he will be the same after 90? So infuriating! Who judged this?
Something is wrong with your head
Feel sorry for the guy. Just a little sex stuff and it turns out so not worth it, 9 years is too long. At most 1 or 2 years is enough
This waste of a human! They should bring him to conduct “Humanitarian destruction”
What a pity to the girl
I feel he should have gotten 99 years
Seriously, so young and these things happened to her, when she grows up it’ll be worse. Don’t know what the parents taught her… sigh.
What’s the point of these useless parents
Comments from Vnet:
Kids nowadays…
Actually, it’s mostly all because the parents don’t have time to look after their own kids.
The parents are greatly responsible. They should have reported this to the police a long time ago. Because they were afraid, they even watched their own daughter enter the wolf’s den.
Comments from Leshan News Web:
Comments from Sohu:
Why only 9 years? According to the country’s law, If the victim is under 14, it doesn’t matter if the victim consented. It’s all classified as “malignant” rape, at least 20 years imprisonment, or life, and even the death sentence. There’s something wrong with this judge.
The sorrow of modern times!
What kind of dog-fart parents are these? They should be on Animal Planet, Most Extreme Failures.
It’s all modern society’s resulting this kind of garbage. Hopefully this girl’s life with get better. I believe you’ll find a man that will treat you well someday.
9 years, If the judge’s daughter was the victim, would you still only give 9 years???
Things like this happen?
If I was the girl’s parents, 1. I would kick the girl out, 2. Get a knife and kill that bastard. He willingly arrives are your house doorstep and you don’t kill him? Kill him and report a robbery
Why didn’t they think of reporting this? Is it because they didn’t have faith in the police?
Images: These pictures are not related to the incident of 12-year-old Xiaohua. They were found on Google and are images from other news stories about rape victims. Click on them to see their original Chinese sources and information.
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sad stuff…I agree that the guy should get more years, at least 20, criminals need to be punished more harshly.
comments here always seem to consist of one maverick fighting against the masses
Aren’t rapists supposed to be executed in China?
WTF is wrong w/ the judge?! She didn’t shout when she was raped and that was the parents’ fault?! Did the judge know the details of the rape so that he could discern that the girl didn’t shout b/c she wasn’t taught to?
This is the sort of stupid, ignorant, misogynist bullshit that makes me livid. He has obviously never heard of Stockholm Syndrome, and most likely couldn’t even point out Stockholm on a map. The parents have had to suffer the pain of losing their daughter, only to have her return and them be threatened. What part of the parents being threatened at knife point do these people not understand?
And only 9 years? I hope the rapist gets raped in jail and gets full blown AIDS. I hope he is castrated slowly with the rusty edge of a tin can lid.
I don’t know if you guys subscribe to the comment feed of this blog or not. I got funny item title like this in my google reader:
“Comment on 12-Year-Old Chongqing Girl Raped & Imprisoned Has Baby by USTCer”
at first glance, I was really thunderly shocked.
@ USTCer:
You naughty naughty man, you!
@ Chinamerican:
I agree, the judge is either an idiot or the journalist knew quoting those words specifically (perhaps leaving out other things the judge might have said) would get a rise out of people.
That everyone shares blame for this atrocity should not be doubted, but emphasizing blame on the parents or the child is entirely inappropriate and heartless. Yes, the child should’ve known better than to be so trusting of random strangers on the internet. Yes, the parents should’ve taught her to be more careful or should’ve tried to do more to protect her when she did finally manage to escape home or whatever. Yes, even society alone should teach the kid to be more careful, the parents to teach their children better, and the rapist to not be a crazy rapist.
But, if the lion’s portion of blame does not fall on society/government as a whole for failing this girl, it should fall on the rapist who willingly committed an obvious crime for his own selfish, perverted ends. Understandably, if we can’t rid the world of bad people, yes, we are necessarily responsible for protecting ourselves too, but being quoted like that on mainstream media just makes the judge look heartless. Fortunately, it looks like quite a lot of Chinese people feel likewise.
I did like the comment about how the bastard even shows up on on their doorstep but instead of being happy they don’t have to go hunt him down to exact revenge, they’re bullied again. Of course, we all know it isn’t as simple as that (not much you can do when some guy shows up and then suddenly has a knife to your throat or something), but the idea is pretty amusing.
Kai, some people are born victims, I guess.
My neighbour would only have to scream for me to emerge from my hole holding some form of weaponry.
@Chinamerican
He’s only in jail for 9 years, I don’t hope he gets AIDS – he’ll likely get out and spread it to some other unwitting victims. I think that a board posting phone-cam vids of his face ’squeeling like a pig’ while getting gang raped by groups of northern Chinese thugs would be appropriate though, maybe all of the country would be able to recognize “pig boy” for the horrible shell of a person he is.
What a mix of modern and old in Chinese society!
First, we have parents that seek for fortune and to busy to take care about child. After 5000 years of seeking for virtues, chinese society seeks for money.
Second, poster said that child wasn’t disciplined, but children should not be disciplined. Parents should bring up their children.
Third, instead to play with hers friends, she went to internet bar.
Then, she was kept as mistress, which is new.
After learning what happened to their daughter, they didn’t take a legal action, to prevent shame on family(!), which is old.
At the end, judge’s verdict is dummy. Any sex with minor is raping. Maybe she screamed, maybe she was to frightened to scream.
At the end, parents went to police only ’cause they didn’t have a money.
So, guy blackmailed parents, and that should be taken in account.\
What is sentence for parents?
@krdr
The sentence for the parents is already handed to them through having (likely) the most precious thing in their life ripped away, destroyed in many ways, and handed back to them broken (mentally and physically). I think there is no worse punishment that can possibly come to them.
The problem is – parents [everywhere] do not have manuals. Most modern nations have a lot of shared parenting information resources and such to help parents cope with children in modern society, but in China, society has changed so rapidly I would imagine migrant-type parents such as hers (selling rice, driving motorbike taxi as careers) are not highly educated or…well, knowledgeable on modern problems. Rapists luring daughter from internet bar? They likely have no concept of what the internet is, hell, there is an unlikely but potential presidential candidate who doesn’t.
It’s a really unfortunate situation all around. Failed parenting (partially parents fault, largely government/society’s fault, how can one be expected to learn without being taught) which I think Kai touched on. I don’t think the parents were “seeking fortune” – are you serious, selling some rice and driving a motorbike taxi? That would not even come close to paying for their daughter to have any sort of higher education, let alone “seek fortune”.
Another unfortunate thing here is that many parents or children in this same situation will not hear about this case and wisen up, not immediately, maybe they don’t have access to or time for the news. Maybe the government should consider some sort of sponsored parenting information distribution for the poor?
Yes, being wary of strangers you meet on the internet potentially wanting to impregnate you with his spawn better be covered in the Chinese sex education textbook.
Sounds like there is something else involved. I mean, the fact that she was out and about without him when she returned to him. Drugs, maybe?
Yes, it is definitely Stockholm syndrome, a captive takes on the identity of the captor, his cause and attitude. Some of the very famous victims of Stockhom syndrome are Patty Hearst who joined in violent terrorist activities after having been kidnapped by force, and the recently rescued French captive of Columbian rebels who submitted herself to being raped and subsequently fathered a child by the rebel. For that matter the girl was only twelve, a time in life when social development expands exponentially. They are curious about people and the have the need to belong in a group of peers. This is the reason for teenagers to be loud party animals. This kind of cyber sex predators are everywhere. It happens in good families in U.S. also. It has nothing to do with the parents seeking their fortune as alleged by one blogger (they are mere laborers earning a small income as explained on the blog posting). It is very likely that the parents are unaware and unsophisticated of the danger of the modern day cyber world. All sex predators of Children should get his name and face published and posted in public places. After his jail sentence, he perpetrator should be required to report to the police regularly.
At least, in this case the guy got thrown in jail for 9 years. In U.S., because of the kidnapping charge, he would have received 30 years.
@ Rick
Sounds about right. There should be a “pedophiles” section in the Human Flesh Search Engine for people like him.
@ krdr
I hope you understand that using “mistress” in this context is extremely insulting. She was a hostage in every sense of the word.
@Chinamerican
I said “kept as mistress” not “she was the mistress”. I’m not native English speaker and two years in China just worsen my knowledge of language. I’m forced to choose each word wisely. I didn’t said that she was mistress willingly. She was “kept as mistress”, as someone who fulfill sexual desires of someone who keeps (kept) her. I used passive, to stress that she was in passive situation. Action was on her. She was forced to act as mistress.
@Rick
Correct me if I’m wrong, first sentence is:
As parents who are too busy with careers and no time to discipline their child,
Parents were busy with careers. I catch on this sentence, and somehow overlooked part with their jobs (I was on my job). Anyway, “fortune” is relative. In big cities, 10k kuai is big money. In rural parts, 1k kuai is much bigger money. “Fortune” doesn’t means just “wealth”, it means something like “luck” and “happiness” with cherry on the top. Moving from Hechuan to Shapingba (according to wikipedia) is like moving from New Jersey to Manhattan, and that looks like “seeking fortune”
Failed parenting (partially parents fault, largely government/society’s fault, how can one be expected to learn without being taught)
I can argue only with common sense. Who taught my parents? I grow up in very harsh conditions. Serbia in ‘90 was like Harlem. A 10 million people Ghetto. My aunt was grown up during WWII. She survived occupation, bombing, hunger, diseases. Who taught my grandparents?
I remember my parents forbidding me to go play pinball and arcade games, as there “kids that smokes cigars”. Pinball’s didn’t existed in their time, but they knew that is not good for me to spend hours. I was taught to read books, to play football and not to talk with strangers.
I would not advise my child to go to internet cafe to spend time. It cost money (every fen is precious for noodle sellers and taxi drivers) and who knows who goes there…
Maybe, I cannot be on this governmental stuff with you, ’cause in Serbia we are taught that family is basic cell of society. Who you are is shaped by your family, not government. Our laws reflects this: if criminal is minor, not suitable for jail, parent will go to jail.
Maybe the government should consider some sort of sponsored parenting information distribution for the poor?
This is very good idea, especially for developed countries, as many parents works overtime. For poor, it is better to organize meetings with teacher or party leader in their village, and money to be spent on organizing after class activities.
@ krdr
I understand English is not your first language but just the word “mistress” is completely incorrect in this context, no matter how it is used. “Slave” or “hostage” is more appropriate b/c even if a mistress, in modern terms, is a kept woman, it is usually given that the woman has some sort of autonomy and can live a relatively normal life (i.e. going home to see her family, going to school/work, etc.). This girl was threatened with violence toward her family and repeatedly raped over a length of time.
@Chinamerican
I explained what I meant. She wasn’t “slave” nor “hostage” as that words have their own meanings. She was “sex slave”, but “kept as mistress”. The guy presented her in society as “girlfriend” not as “slave”. So, you are wondering what bullsh*t I’m talking about.
First, girl was sexually abused by that guy, but guy presented her as “girlfriend”. He did that ’cause having a mistress is “in” in China, a status symbol.
Again, I never said that she was his mistress, but forced to fulfill his sexual demands, stay at his home unwillingly and be represented as “girlfriend”.
No need to start rant over me, just ’cause I wrote on English in spirit of Serbian.
krdr:
O.K., you grew up in Serbia and survived the traumatic times. Luck you. But, that is no reason to be holier than thou. The parents of this girl are peasants, noodle sellers making a meager living. You have to remember Chinese girls are not as valued in families as boys. It is very likely that she was not shown a lot of care or love. Being twelve, she was starting to develop self-awareness, social curiosity and discovery. This happens for every teenager because it is a natural biological and psychological developement in order for each youth to move to the next stage of eventual separation from parents. Unforunately, it ended in tragedy for this girl and family.
I feel for the family and the girl. There is no room for condemnation here.
@ Ann:
Dude, it was not Stockholm Syndrome.
The girl was held captive against her will, under threat of her family being murdered. She even escaped and tried to go into hiding but selflessly returned to her captor because, jeebus, HE HAD A KNIFE TO HER PARENTS AND SISTER.
She did not grow an emotional attachment or become sympathetic with her captor, neither did she fear rescue. None of the details available suggest that she was afflicted by Stockholm Syndrome.
O.K., you grew up in Serbia and survived the traumatic times. Luck you. But, that is no reason to be holier than thou…There is no room for condemnation here.
Dude, where do you get that he’s being “holier than thou?” Moreover, he isn’t condemning the girl. At most, he’s condemning Chinese society and his parents (in addition, obviously, to the rapist). What is wrong with him being upset that no one was able to teach her to be careful when on the internet or at an internet bar? What is wrong with him suggesting that his upbringing of reading books and playing football might be more healthy and less risky than letting one’s 12-year-old daughter go to the internet bar all day to chat with strangers? You’re being a little harsh on the guy, aren’t you?
I love how you have to add some sort of “female development, empowerment, liberation” into everything. This poor girl had the misfortune of being raped and imprisoned because 1) there are evil people out there, 2) society AND her parents for one reason or another failed to teach her to be more careful. No one is chastising her for “developing self-awareness, social-curiosity, and discovery.” All of those things can be done without being raped and imprisoned at the age of 12.
People, like krdr, are quite naturally upset and frustrated that all of this wasn’t avoided. No one wanted the girl to go through what she did and no one wants any girl to go through what she did. That’s why it is appropriate for people like krdr to point out where society or where her parents might have failed her. That includes making appropriate comparisons that helped shape other children in more healthy and less dangerous ways. Surely this girls parents could’ve encouraged her to read and play football, right? Those aren’t out of their means relative to letting her pay by the hour to go online, right?
krdr has bad English, but most of what he wrote wasn’t too hard to understand.
@krdr
RE: “Parents were busy with careers. I catch on this sentence, and somehow overlooked part with their jobs (I was on my job). Anyway, “fortune” is relative. In big cities, 10k kuai is big money. In rural parts, 1k kuai is much bigger money. “Fortune” doesn’t means just “wealth”, it means something like “luck” and “happiness” with cherry on the top. Moving from Hechuan to Shapingba (according to wikipedia) is like moving from New Jersey to Manhattan, and that looks like “seeking fortune””
I totally do NOT see any correlation between your analogies. Hechuan to Shapingba is NJ to Manhattan? I don’t think so. It’s like moving from Hechuan to Shapingba. I’ve been to Shapingba. Shapingba is a university area of Chongqing, in fact, it’s a place where a lot of people go to pick up girls..which so happens to make it a place high in prostitution and relatively high in scummy people. I live in Sichuan – it’s only a 4 hour drive, I went with some friends and they wanted to ‘check it out’, it’s not exactly an urban development zone with white collar workers… Also, assuming to know her parents financial situation or relative wealth to living expense to make your point invalidates your argument.
RE: “I can argue only with common sense. Who taught my parents? I grow up in very harsh conditions.”
I understand your point – building relationship between your situation and hers, however…while it seems you are lucky to have gotten through a relatively difficult past, and be raised by parents who knew how to take care of you as well as provide for you, that doesn’t mean everyone else is in the same boat. Saying “who taught my parents” – well, I’d have to say her parents did. China is a different nation. There was massive shifts in government and society which left many kids orphans, maybe nobody taught her parents because it’s very possible her parents had none. Also, times are different – risks and threats are different – relating your raising in 90’s serbia to her raising in 200X China is impossible.
I think you mistook my implied meaning as being an excuse for the parents, it’s not. It’s a testament to the importance of society/parents in raising children. We’re not able to point fingers and say who is to blame, because..well, we don’t know the situation with the whole truth or many significant details, so I think it’s safest to say the blame falls on many.
@Rick
About moving from Hechuan to Shapingba:
You are right. I never been in Chongqing, so I tried to find any data about Hechuan and Shapingba. I compared with NJ-Manhattan as its looked to me like that. I thanks you about this information ( Still in love with books ;) ). Now it looks me more like Haidian district in BJ.
Still I am thinking that they moved to seek better life. Maybe, ’cause wages are bigger, rents are smaller, they have more customers. They didn’t move just to move.
Also, times are different – risks and threats are different – relating your raising in 90’s serbia to her raising in 200X China is impossible.
Yes, times are different, places and cultures are different. But, in each time, on each place, in each culture, parents should take care about their children.
China is a different nation. There was massive shifts in government and society which left many kids orphans, maybe nobody taught her parents because it’s very possible her parents had none.
Is it possible. They still have common sense about do and not do in parenting. Let’s assume that both parents are orphans. Someone took care about them, a party, a governmental institution, aunts, uncles, friends of friends,… someone took care about them, and they should took care about girl.
I think you mistook my implied meaning as being an excuse for the parents, it’s not.
I didn’t. Our misunderstanding is about how much of blame should be on parents. I’m not Chinese, I can not say they where 60% percent bad, 40% percent good. They where bad parents (in USA or Canada parents would lost custody for much smaller reasons). How government and their institution performed? Also bad.
We’re not able to point fingers and say who is to blame, because..well, we don’t know the situation with the whole truth or many significant details, so I think it’s safest to say the blame falls on many.
The easiest way is to blame the society. That means no one will be punished, none will be ashamed, no action will be took.
I wanted to write many examples of similar child abuse from developed countries (Serbia too), but someone would think that I want to minimize what happened to poor Xiaohua.
I don’t want that. I want that Chinese parents take care about their children. I know that they are under the pressure. There’s a story on this blog about sister who left family ’cause they are poor. It is better to spent one hour more with the kid, and one hour less on the job. There should be no misunderstanding.
@Ann
I’m aware about everything you said. I’m also aware that in villages, girls are sold to in-laws, as parents lost workforce. Like a horses.
It is very likely that she was not shown a lot of care or love.
This is my point. Thanks.
@Kai
Thanks on support. Ann, Chinamerica and Rick was harsh on me, but I don’t took it personal. The story is shocking. We all have an urge to do something. We came from different cultures, we have different views, and we all would took sledgehammer and smack some heads.
BTW, I don’t think my English is so bad, I just don’t feel comfortable in foreign languages, as I am always afraid of being misunderstand.
I meant “misunderstood”
Rick in China,
Words of wisdom and thank you:
“I understand your point – building relationship between your situation and hers, however…while it seems you are lucky to have gotten through a relatively difficult past, and be raised by parents who knew how to take care of you as well as provide for you, that doesn’t mean everyone else is in the same boat. Saying “who taught my parents” – well, I’d have to say her parents did. China is a different nation. There was massive shifts in government and society which left many kids orphans, maybe nobody taught her parents because it’s very possible her parents had none. Also, times are different – risks and threats are different – relating your raising in 90’s serbia to her raising in 200X China is impossible.
I think you mistook my implied meaning as being an excuse for the parents, it’s not. It’s a testament to the importance of society/parents in raising children. We’re not able to point fingers and say who is to blame, because..well, we don’t know the situation with the whole truth or many significant details, so I think it’s safest to say the blame falls on many.”
There was a tremendou vacuum left in Chinese society in terms of parental influence and control during the Mao era. CCP did all the preaching and teaching while parents were just surviving from fear and desititution. It is very possible that the chain of parental skills has been broken like animals that abandon their young. I suspect also that this young girl is not as valued as she should have been because of Chinese tradition of favoring boys. She was mostly left on her own device. For that, Chinese culture also is to blame.
Wow, Ann just went from “parents too busy trying to make money to support the family” to “parents neglected daughter because she’s a girl (and they must like boys better because they’re Chinese and traditional Chinese culture says boys are better).”
Dude…
I dont understand why people keep on blaming to parents. I mean, they are noodle vendors and motocycle taxi drivers for petes sake. What do they know about sick psychos on the internet?? Sure, they could have taught the whole “dont talk to strangers honey” thing to her.
You watch the news here, read the newspapers here and theres hardly ever any awareness of the potential dangers on the internet. Ask a chinese person what the most important invention is… and its the internet. Ask them the cons of the internet, they would say there is none. I teach students here… and i make sure they are aware of things like this. Alot of chinese people here arent ignorant. Its just the things they know are limited and weird society problems such as paedophilia, internet predators, are considered a taboo. Parents will NEVER talk about these things to their child even if they know about it.
If parents dont have knowledge to educate the children about these things, then the government has to do something about it. This a society problem where they dont give enough credit that children are more capable of understanding the dangers around them, than perceived.
I would say the judge is an idiot. This girl is 12…. she was probably so scared she didnt know what to do. She’s not street smart yet…. so now she’s gonna grow up thinking its her fault that these things happened to her. Just cause she didnt think to scream. argh… am sickened… who promoted this dumb-a$$??
@Kai
Maybe her ideas are changing with additional perspectives and reading, which isn’t necessarily a bad thing… :)
@ TaiIn:
Strange, I feel the Chinese media has plenty of stories about the dangers of the internet and parents are pretty darn aware. Haven’t heard about “very yellow, very violent” yet?
@TaiIn
Maybe parents doesn’t know about internet, but sure they know about internet caffe’s, and dangers for 12-year-old girl wandering alone.
The parents, the judge, and especially the rapist should be punished. The rapist deserves many decades of imprisonment. The judge needs re-education. The parents should not be allowed any more children at the minimum.
Oh puh-lease
A chinese rape victim? that’s like a rebel without a cause.
He didn;t pay, if he had, he could have saved himself 9 years
Expect this little bittiy titty on a street near you soon. lol
Pedophilia is nothing to laught at, whether the victim is coerced, voluntary, or paid. She is just 12! You have a in appropriate rotten sense of sarcasm.
You “sound” like you are promoting prostituion by young girls, and may be you are!
I don´t think is pedophilia,is a rape of a young girl and the man who raped her should die in prison.
Pedophilia is sexual attraction towards children under 11 years.
Chris:
Here is a psychological definition of pedophelia in U.S.:
“A diagnosis of pedophilia cannot be assigned to an individual in late adolescence (age 17 to 19) who is involved in an ongoing sexual relationship with a 12- or 13-year-old person.”
This man as is described as a young man six years her senior which would make him 18 to 19. In that case you are right. It was rape and kidnapping. He would have been sentenced to at least 30 years to life imprisonment because of the kidnapping.
then it´s all about the definition of what is a child,what an adolescent(or teen) and what an adult—I think there s a great confusion about it..personally for me the guy could have been a 30 years old instead of being 19yr and it would be still a rape…
By the way i though that death sentence was the reward for a rape…
It is comforting to see a GUY, red meat eating gentleman to support rape victims. Some commentators here have blamed it on the parents and the girl. It is as if in the old archaic definition of rape – the woman caused it by the way she walk, talked or dressed. Very sad to still have this opinion in thid day and age.
All western countries have legislation that protects children from neglecting. Poor kid was two years in hand of rapist. What parents did? They didn’t report crime to police. Not report a crime to police is a crime too. Knowing that crime will be committed and not preventing – is a crime. Let child without proper education – is reason for loosing custody on child. Girl wasn’t protected by her parents!
Ann is fierce fighter for human (women) rights, but forgot ultimate right of minor girl: right on childhood, right on education, right on parental and social care. All kinds of maltreatment, neglecting or appropriation are forbidden (taken from Convention of Children Rights).
In countries where the police are corrupt and unprofessional with the job they have sworn to uphold, citizens avoid the police, not knowing if the police would ask for bribe before starting a luke warm investigation. Or in the worst case scenario, the police may actually be involved in the crime, then the complainant would end up getting harassed or mistreated by the police. Contacting the police could fetch more trouble instead of resolution.
Serbia for one is still full of corrupt police and so is China. If this girl had been kidnapped in UK or US. or any country in Europe, it would have been a very different story.
No point in blaming the parents for all the wrongs that had been done to the girl. It is much harder to raise children now-a-days even in good homes. Abundance of drugs, alcohol, pornographic material are available easily,; cyber bullies and pedophiles fishing for young girls happens everywhere. In U.S. a TV reality show set out to catch pedophiles using an adult who looks like a young girl with fake id as bait. The pedophiles were shown on TV when they arrived at the set-up house of the girl they had arranged to meet. It is amazing how many got hooked by the TV reporter doing the show. These pedophiles came from all walks of life and income and some with children of their own.
A 12 year old should not be burdened with any blame. The trauma would trail her for the rest of her life. The parents given their circumstance, lack of street smarts and unsophisticated cannot be blamed either. To blame them is to take away responsiblity of the perpetrator and society.
Those who condemn her and the parents are heartless with a holier than thou, smarter than thou arrogant attitude.
I’ve maybe got something to add on the parenting issue here given my situation in China.
I teach at a very expensive private school here in Beijing. All of our students are from very rich families, and they’re all Chinese. (sorry, almost all – we now have about 15 Korean students too; but in previous years, it’s been all Chinese). Several times a year, we have “parent-teacher interviews” where we sit down (with a translator) and discuss the students’ progress with the parents. I’ve seen parents of all kinds, obviously, but they do have one thing in common: a startling lack in education. According to the lady who signs all the students up for the school, more than half of the parents can’t read and fill out a form in Chinese. To me, that’s shocking, and I wonder what other parts of their life this lack of education affects.
One other thing I’ve noticed is that our kids are isolated, and most come into the school with no knowledge of what it means to be a student, or part of a society with rules. A lot of them have never been told “no” in their whole lives, so when I take a cel phone away for 24 hours because it was being used in class, some kids will literally throw a fit and chase me down the hall crying for their phones back. That was a bit of a tangent – back to the isolated part. One clear memory I have is when a student wrote about the happiest day in his life. The following is a paraphrase: “The happiest day in my life is when both my mother, father and I played football in the park one Sunday afternoon. We had a picnic and we spent a whole 5 hours together being happy.” I felt sad when I read that because it seems that should be more of a natural part of a childhood – not some “it happened once” treasured memory. And Ann, this was a boy writing this. One thing I’ve noticed in my situation is that boys and girls are treated equally by rich parents. They’re too busy to have the time for either of them, and too busy to teach them any skills they need to survive in the real world.
Yes, I am making generalizations here, but I would say all of this holds true for at least 70% of our students.
Anyway, just something from a different perspective.
@Ann
“It is comforting to see a GUY, red meat eating gentleman to support rape victims. ”
And you’re talking about other people being holier-than-thou? Where do you get off making the suggestion that guys would not support rape victims? And where does eating red meat come into all of this?
Ann is a liberal… She is a bleeding heart liberal zombie with a bleeding liberalized brain (or lack thereof). Brainzzzzzzz
Everything in her world is either black or white, left or right… It’s a sad state of living. I refuse to be a zombie like her… trapped in your left-right paradigm mind-prison-matrix.
With that out of the way… We should find the one’s responsible and kill them.
@c*inkunitarseho and Fuller
I did not mean all men would not support rape victims. There enough commenters blaming the girl and the parents, that was the prevailing sentiment on this blog. I certain know and wish to acknowledge that some men are sympathetic. Just as in the West, not that long ago, at least within my life time, victims had no right. Police would not trust the victim as telling the truth. When in court her sex life, her demeanor, the location and time of rape would be a fact for consideration as well for evidence of truth in her accusation. The victim would be a suspect of false accusation at times if she happened to have met the rapist previously. The victim became the criminal on trial rather then the rapist. Also boyfriends and husband had rights to sex without consent of the women. In other words spouses and girl friends can be raped. Thank goodness that it is no longer the case.
I am a ldefinitely a liberal and proud of it. I support woman’s rights, civil rights, humanitarian rights and animal rights, and the latest environmental causes. I am a true blue Obama supporter.
@Teacher in China
I agree that the kinds of parents and students you get in your classroom is disappointing. The practice of parent teacher interview (conference in U.S.) is to improve communication between parents and teachers to work together to educate the child. Unfortunately, in the case of uncaring parents, it is just a waste of time on the part of the teacher. The description you gave about your students makes me think they are spoit kids with material things, but had not been given any descipline. I guess parents are too busy to make money now and are relegating the job of “teaching” to teachers. Not only are you expected to teach the curriculum, you have to teach descipline, manners, respect. Teachers in schools with rich kids have to take on more and more while the parents are absent in their children’s lives. There was once an old Chinese saying, “Wealth never lasts three generations”.
@Ann
“Serbia for one is still full of corrupt police and so is China”.
I suppose you were in Serbia lately? Or you are world-prominent specialist on corruption, working for Interpol? Yes, you can pay police officer to tear-off your traffic ticket, but not to be blind on rape case. We still fight over high-official and court corruption and that is a part of fight over mafia.
It is good to know that corruption in USA have legal variant: Lobby and campaign donations.
@Ann
RE: “Those who condemn her and the parents are heartless with a holier than thou, smarter than thou arrogant attitude.”
Those who remove ALL blame from the parents are as ignorant and blind to natural nurturing instinct and the should-be common sense requirement for procreating that cause this kind of situation to proliferate in modern societies as the parents themselves. There is a lot of blame to go around, and the parents certainly deserve a large chunk of that, whether we root-cause analysis that back through to society on whole for not providing the parents resources from which to learn or past problems with cultural and social shifts that might have left them in a ‘blind zone’ to which they were not made aware of their responsibilities or not.
@Ann
I am a ldefinitely a liberal and proud of it. I support woman’s rights, civil rights, humanitarian rights and animal rights,
Children rights? That is not in your agenda?
and the latest environmental causes
Environment is not a fashion to be “…latest…”. But, wait, you like diamonds, right? Shiny stones from South Africa, dig by poverty striven black people, to fill pocket of De Beers…
I taught liberals don’t wears diamond as they are symbol of conservatives, slavery and blood of Africans.
@krdr
Hypocritical ones do :) You forget, there’s different standards when evaluating yourself and evaluating others. Do as I say not as I do / Cherry-picking sub-topics of an overall movement to believe in and fight for and others to reject based on what suits you / etc. To paraphrase King Henry, “Bible? Ya I believe in it, after I modify the shit of out of it to suit my preferred lifestyle.”
@Rick
Well said, Rick!
@Rick in China, et. al:
Is’nt it enough that the parents and the girl have suffered terrible personal degradation, humiliation and loss of personal dignity? Society want to heap condemnation and disgust as well?
Quoting, “cultural and social shifts that might have left them in a ‘blind zone’ to which they were not made aware of their responsibilities or not.”
This I agree totally. The parents in this case are street hawkers, their level of awareness of modern day hazards are most likely non-existent. It is probably from lack of education because of their peasant background. Do you believe a non-English speaking Chinese immigrant can survive without help in U.S.? An Ameridan Indian adage goes, “Do not judge a man until one has walked in the man’s mocasin.” Do not judge a man until you have the exact same experience.
This family needs understanding and empathy of all things. They have learned their lesson and paid a very dear price for it. Whereas, society has failed them in not teaching children how to be aware of child predators. But then again, if her parents are to be blamed for not showing enough care and love because she was born a girl instead of a boy, the whole society and Chinese culture have failed her.
Condemnation is a plain old expression of arrogrance. In old Europe when there was a majority peasant class, the nobilities looked down on the poor of society, that they they were lazy, cheats, dirty, vulgar, and they deserved to be poor. Some of the commenters’ opnions here pretty much mirror the same of the European nobilities towards the peasants. It is arrogance.
In old Europe when there was a majority peasant class, the nobilities looked down on the poor of society, that they they were lazy, cheats, dirty, vulgar, and they deserved to be poor
Same in old China
I agree. The only difference is China’s economy did not grow to the extent of Europe, so the gap between rich and poor was not as significant and as common in China. Neverthless, the attitude of the rich would be the same. It is right called the successful man’s syndrom. I made it, why can’t you. Your deserve what you got! Sounds familiar?
@Ann
On this topic in particular – your rhetoric is unfounded and invalid, I don’t think you’ve really thought about this topic with enough perspective, and some of your facts are incorrect. I’m not saying I have, but perhaps we’re at an impasse. We don’t need to discuss it further, as, well, it’s getting to a repeat-repeat point now.
The around and around discussion is becasue the discussion did not start with any foundamental principal, but manipulation of facts. My foundamental principal is a rape victim is never responsible for her rape. The parents in this case are not morally respnsible either due to their circumstance. End of discussion.
My foundamental principal is a rape victim is never responsible for her rape
No body said rape victim is responsible. We said that rape victims aren’t protected in China, and their families aren’t supportive, as we found here: http://www.chinasmack.com/stories/netizens-discuss-if-reporting-rape-jeaopardizes-wedding/
The parents in this case are not morally responsible either due to their circumstance.
Parents are always responsible, as “Declaration of Children Rights” says.
End of discussion.
@ Ann:
No one is heaping condemnation and disgust on the parents beyond a frustration that her parents failed to educate her to be more careful in modern society. People have even gone further to be angry at society for possibly failing to educate the parents to do so or to directly educate the child to be more careful. Throughout all of this, no one has absolved, pardoned, excused, or lessened any blame, condemnation, or disgust for the rapist.
No one suggested that the parents neglected her because she was a daughter instead of a son EXCEPT YOU. There is not a single detail in this story that suggests she met this fate because she was a girl and Chinese society traditionally favors boys. YOU CREATED THIS STRAW MAN AND ARE NOW ATTACKING IT. By all accounts, her parents were merely too busy making a living to support the family and their child. They not only provided for her internet bar expenses but also searched for her nervously when she went missing, and sought to protect her by sending her into hiding. They clearly care for the girl even if they failed to educate her properly to avoid strangers or were unable to be around more.
How dare you suggest and then condemn them for being sexist? They have TWO daughters! Instead of taking the easy way out and aborting them, THE CHOSE TO GIVE BOTH THE OPPORTUNITY TO LIVE IN THIS WORLD.
Where the fuck do you get off on accusing them of neglecting her because they favor boys?
There’s a difference between people wishing the girl could have avoided what happened and people blaming the girl instead of the rapist for being raped. You clearly haven’t the mental capacity for distinguishing the two. Moreover, you and your wine-swilling self-righteous ignorance is the most atrocious form of “arrogance” I see in these comments. If you want to look at someone manipulating facts, look in the mirror.
It is amazing the attitude of “some” men in dealing with rape victims, implying that the 12 year old rape victim could have avoided it if only she, meaning she should be responsible for what happened. Her uneducated parents should have taught her differently and should have reported to the police immediately. This is all hind-sight and unfair judgement. I applaud those who say this is a terrible thing to happen to a 12 year old girl. People in the vicinity of the rapist should also start asking questions, what is this young girl living with a man so much older. Had they asked the young girl in a friendly caring way, may be the case would have broken open much sooner. I am only advocating that it takes a village to raise a child, and a caring village for that.
@Ann
You are liberal and democrat. Democrats doesn’t fight against “collective guilt”. Democratic societies and countries abandon that after WWII. According to you, whole city of Chongqing should be arrested. Maybe you should be arrested, as you did nothing to educate poor parents. You are rich. You can spent some money on free parental education in China. That is what true blue Obamist should do.
When discussion get heated, they start the personal attacks. I am not hear to socialize on this blog. I can do that on Myface. I am trying to bring out another point of view here than the majority view.
I am trying to bring out another point of view here than the majority view.
By forbidding others to have their on opinion.
How do I forbid? What mechanism do I use? I am not in China and have no access to State sponsored censors.
Aren’t you supper intelligent? You have enough money to bribe some corrupt officials.
@ Ann:
“I am only advocating that it takes a village to raise a child, and a caring village for that.”
Bullshit.
First, you accuse anyone for suggesting the parents (part of that “village”) have some responsibility for educating (raising) their child as BLAMING the child and parents for the rape. You attack and insult everyone who expressed any frustration that this wasn’t averted had the parents or larger society (village) educated the girl to be wary of strangers on the internet. You even start suggesting that the girl was raped because the parents and Chinese society traditionally favors boys.
Now you flip-flop back with this kind of bullshit?
How dare you suggest and then condemn them for being sexist?
Come on, Ann, don’t skirt around it. Own up to your overstepping idiocy. You just might earn back a wee bit of credibility if you had the ability to acknowledge when you’ve made heinous, offensive mistakes. I still can’t believe you suggested that the girl was raped because the parents must’ve preferred boys and neglected her.
You’re so fucking shameless. You did not bring another point of view, you simply came on here to insult everyone’s intelligence and then flip-flop your way back into SAYING THE SAME EXACT THING you attacked everyone else for saying the moment you realized how untenable your position has been. You’ve personally insulted everyone and now when people call you out on your idiocy, you start whining and pretending you’re some victim merely crusading for good. What a crock.
@ krdr:
Please do not insult “Democrats” and “Liberals” by association with Ann. Both are supposed to stand for good things NOT flip-flopping, self-righteous, idiocy.
Ann does not censor anyone. She merely overwhelms them with enough nonsense to make anyone who doesn’t agree with her want to shoot themselves in the head.
I posited that the favoring of boys over girls in Chinese culture may partly be the problem in that when children who are not shown love and affection, girls in this instance, become vulnerable to stranger’s show of interest. It is a well known fact that Chinese culture values boys over girls and the practice is still prevalent in the underclass particularly.
It is your priviledge to consider this sh_t. Others, will think otherwise.
I posited that the favoring of boys over girls in Chinese culture may partly be the problem in that when children who are not shown love and affection,
You said “may partly be the problem”.
Part of Chinese culture is to spit on street, with good rationale, but you are still disguised with that.
The girl cannot be fully educated because she is only 12. 12 years old do not have the full brain development to be able to sort out adults who have honest intentions and adults who are clever in the ways of manipulation. Additionally, the girl who having received the love and attention makes her more an easy victim. I am saying the parents are victims of ignorance, poor education and Chinese culture in favoring boys. The neighbors living near by the rapists home should have noticed something different. They should have asked the girl questions as to why she is there with a young man. The parents did not know where the girl was so they are not responsible after the girl had disapeared. Now the police, who knows what they would do at the beginning. What is a life of a peasant girl worth in China?
Corrections:
the girl not having received the love and attention makes her more an easy victim.
going to fast here.
@Ann
She was well educated to go to Internet caffe, but not to talk to a strangers?
That’s a good one.
@ Ann:
It is your priviledge to consider this sh_t. Others, will think otherwise.
1. Who considered that shit? Please cite.
2. LoL, no one considered favoritism of boys over girls to be “shit.” We considered YOU accusing the parents of neglecting the girl because she wasn’t a son to be SHIT.
Nice try worming out of that one, though. LoL!
The girl cannot be fully educated because she is only 12.
I’m sorry, so now you’re saying this 12-year-old girl is too stupid to understand self-preservation…because she’s a Chinese, poor, and her parents neglect her because she’s not a son.
Wow.
In other post, you agree with sex education covering sexual abuse and dangers in the first grade, yet here you’re saying the girl is incapable of being educated to be wary of strangers? Are you serious?
Wow. Idiocy has reached new depths unseen before on chinaSMACK (oh wait, there was this vanity author…).
Education is empowerment. Psychological vunerability is specific depending on the home and social environment.
Chinese are easily emotionally stoked when criticized. This is an international forum. My advice is you should be more comfortable in Chinese only forum. You will have many like minded brothers there. It sounds masochistic to me when someone allows himself to get stoked to the point of using foul language and become irrational.
@ Ann:
LoL, so you’re going to avoid the point and repeat nonsense no one was talking about. WE were the one who was arguing that education was empowerment and psychological vulnerability may stem from home and social environment. You were the one who accused us of BLAMING THE GIRL FOR THE RAPE when we did so.
Now you’re misappropriating our argument as your own. LoL.
Chinese are easily emotionally stoked when criticized.
You know nothing about me, Ann. You are a racist.
This is an international forum. My advice is you should be more comfortable in Chinese only forum.
Aren’t you the one who has so many complaints and suggestions for the Chinese to improve themselves? Shouldn’t you be going to the Chinese-only forums to help out those in need, you know, helping them see the light you so clearly see? Or do you just enjoy TRYING to preach to the choir (but failing to do so in any legitimate, intellectually-honest way)?
Ah well lets forget about the girl for awhile, regardless of her education, intellect etc, the fact remains that the guy is a bastard and deserve to be shot. Simple as that. We should leave the girl or help her stand up but not discuss how she has allowed it to happen. No one knows what went through her mind.
He would have been sentenced to at least 30 years to life imprisonment because of the kidnapping.
I think it’d technically be two separate charges of kidnapping, once for removing her from the cafe, once for demanding her removal from her grandmother’s house. With the other charges (rape, attempted murder, so on) he’d get life without parole, unless his lawyers could prove some kind of psychological issues which make him unfit to stand trial, in which case he’d be remanded to a prison hospital until he was either deemed fit again or he died. Also, even if he did get some kind of early release he’d have to register as a sex offender.
By the way i though that death sentence was the reward for a rape…
Statutory rape involving an adult perpetrator, using violence or the threat of violence and/or by causing fear of harm in the victim for themselves or for another person is considered a capital crime (ie death sentence or life in prison) but currently federal law mandates that the maximum penalty for any crime in which the victim does not die is life in prison without the possibility of parole.
The US Supreme Court (top federal court, over-rides state court opinions) recently ruled (in a 5-4 decision) that Louisiana’s law providing the death sentence for raping a child was unconstitutional. (Therefore death row inmate Patrick O. Kennedy can not be put to death for the brutal rape of his then-8-year-old stepdaughter. His sentence was changed to life in prison without parole.)
All western countries have legislation that protects children from neglecting.
We define child abuse as “any recent act or failure to act on the part of a parent or legal guardian which results in death, serious physical or emotional harm, sexual abuse or exploitation, or any act or failure to act which presents an imminent risk of serious harm.”
In the US, there are four categories for child abuse:
1) Neglect (54% of cases)
2) Physical abuse (22% of cases)
3) Psychological/emotional abuse (8% of cases)
4) Sexual abuse (4% of cases)
Punishments vary, from fines to having their children turned over to foster care, to the parents being put in prison.
If this girl had been kidnapped in UK or US. or any country in Europe, it would have been a very different story.
There is a nationwide system called “Amber Alert” for children who’ve gone missing. It is basically a coordinated effort across federal and local agencies, together with many businesses and civilian groups, across multiple jurisdictions. Their first priorities are to collect any and all possible video sources from the area, put recent photos and a description of that day’s clothing for the missing child on tv, have volunteers and police talk to people in the area where child was last seen, and put the child’s description on commercial radio.
Authorities also use SMS, text messages, email, LED traffic condition signs near roads and billboards on buildings and businesses, the scrolling display in front of the lottery terminals, cell phones, CB radio (popular with long-distance truck drivers and used by emergency services (police, fire, ambulance)), and anything else they can think of that might help.
In U.S. a TV reality show set out to catch pedophiles…
Chris Hansen and producer Lynn Keller together with online group Perverted-Justice do the series for Dateline NBC. The subjects of this program should be labeled sexual predators, because as previously argued pedophiles have the very specific definition of people who are interested in sex with prepubescent children.
This show targets anyone over the age of 18 (age of consent in the US) attempting to have sex with someone under the age of 18.
Police would not trust the victim as telling the truth. When in court her sex life, her demeanor, the location and time of rape would be a fact for consideration as well for evidence of truth in her accusation.
With the increasing capacity for genetic and other medical tests (ie semen sample, photos of bruises, ect) the burden of proof has finally shifted off of witness testimony and on to accurate scientific principles. This increase in forensic capability has reduced false reporting rate to low single digits, allowing police to be much more sympathetic and trusting.
Even today, many times the defense lawyers will still try to put the woman’s character on trial if they feel there is the potential to sway the jury, and they can convince the judge to allow it.
It is good to know that corruption in USA have legal variant: Lobby and campaign donations.
US is listed as 20th least corrupt out of 163 countries, but we fell three places because of House majority leader Tom DeLay being placed under indictment for campaign finance abuses and the general sense of impropriety caused by transferring political donations to unregulated “527″ political action committees.
Recently, Sheriff Michael Carona and his wife were charged with accepting bribes from Don Haidl (among others) to give him the power to deputize people as well as issue concealed weapons permits for cash, proving that everyday corruption remains an issue here as well.
Do you believe a non-English speaking Chinese immigrant can survive without help in U.S.?
There are strict quotas on the number of immigrants allowed entry each year, and they are issued with preference to those who have family, employers, or schools waiting for them, or those who have or are serving in the US military. Some slots are always awarded by lottery.
I’m not sure what the requirements are for leaving China.
Both [Liberals and Democrats] are supposed to stand for good things NOT flip-flopping, self-righteous, idiocy.
I have no opinion on Ann’s conduct nor the merit of her arguments, but flip-flopping, at least, is quite common in US politics. Often a candidate will say one thing to a particular group he is courting and then say another thing to a rival group. Like Obama and his stance on Cuba, illegal immigration, public campaign financing, ect ad nauseum.
And it’s not just Democrats. John McCain may have lost the election because he made quite bold promises to limit “pork” (which is what we call unrelated spending attached as riders to a piece of legislation). But after (also quite boldly) suspending his campaign to return to Washington for the bail-out he was forced to watch helplessly as more and more pork got added, and he was ultimately forced to go on record supporting it.
We all lie, to a greater or lesser extent.
@krdr:
Your English is perfectly serviceable. (When I read your posts, I imagine the voice of the Lev the cosmonaut from Armageddon, played by Peter Stormare.)
Forgot to mention:
re: In U.S. a TV reality show set out to catch pedophiles…
The series is called To Catch a Predator
@jayman
I my voice is harder and sounds Scottish (my “r” sound is very soft, thus non-understandable to others; I took advice from my brother no to try to imitate British English, but to speak slow with strong “r”; I sounds funny, but people understands me)
oh my god what happened to the parent look am like 12 years and if i got raped come on i would unless try and do somthin the parents are stupid enough to let there daughter talk to boys seriously
what the hell whats islam got to do with raping and other stuff what happened to make 3 mans sex or rape a 13 years old just because she’s muslim NO they shouldnt think like that cause they wouldnt now whats going to happen to there daughteres and sons but i hope it happens to there daughteres and feel how it feel like a parent
it’s good to see the “blame the victim” mentality is alive and well…among chinese judges! did these privileged chauvinists ever think about the TREMENDOUS mental stress and terror an ADOLESCENT GIRL was subjected to? blaming her for not “asserting herself” more? gimme a f-ing break! if a grown man is put through physical/psychological abuse and torture, does the experience not scar him permanently? her socioeconomic background, age, gender already make her naive and vulnerable. it’s society’s duty to offer resources to SUPPORT her when she is being ABUSED & TAKEN ADVANTAGE of, not to condemn her for “encouraging” a man’s “natural inclination to be fearless”! until such outdated, sexist pricks are replaced in the powerful positions, disenfranchised chinese will be held back as menial, expandable labor forever. Damn sick to blame the victim!
and the judges’ solution is to imprison the man for 9 years? what about the girl now ruined: she obviously has little financial resource for counseling. how does the family feed/care for additional child? any complications if the sick-F rapist gave her STDs? being a product of rape, what kind of harsh life will the new child face growing up and being treated by society in school, work, life? a never-ending cycle of nightmare for social welfare! but it’s all “ok” cos it’s “other people’s problem/ Not My Kid”, right? do these A-holes understand a rape isn’t just roughed up “lovemaking”? it’s to take a person’s sense of power away, to gain control over their thoughts through fear, coercion and violence — why, familiar territory for those prone to use political oppression!
Its a sad thing that women get raped.
Its a crime that there is a blame the victim mentality.
Personaly, I’d like to destroy violent criminals who do things like this.
Oh no, poor baby.
Got to educate children about stranger danger. Too many poofters loitering around. The cops should be watching an eye out for these gits.
I remember when I was in Shanghai, kids were getting kidnapped from internet cafes and sold to farmers for use as sex slaves/housewives.
Scary thing about rape is, evil doers can bust into your house and assault you given enough time. In china, alot of the communities are so quiet, and insular, it can happen and people are scared to speak up.
The fact that this man only received 9 years in the slammer. It is further evidence that the Chinese culture is sexist. Even in birth, girls are less desirable. Men are treated better, even when they commit heinous acts of violence, rape, and abuse.
“the man who caused so much trauma was sentenced to 9 years prison by the Shapingba district court on a rape charge, the judge revealed yesterday.”
i wanna ask the judge, or all the judges who handled this case, if u were raped, imprisoned and got pregent then gave birth to a son (if it is possible for u to get pregent or if u were a woman whatsoever), how many years do u wanna that asshole imprison?
u wont say 9 years, maybe 90 years or longer, even though ur parent and u r stupid and timid enough to make things even worse.
when i read the word “9 years”, all i wanna say is “wholly shit”
a chinese girl raped? hah. u suckas
she or her mother/ whore/ mamsan didnt get payed enough. that is what rape means in china. no such thing as a chinease rape victim.
Another lowlife. Crawl back under your stone, scum
“Its a sad thing that women get raped.
Its a crime that there is a blame the victim mentality.
Personaly, I’d like to destroy violent criminals who do things like this.”
r u 4 real? its probably heroes like you behind their keyboard that commit this kind of “violent criminal things”
i bet theres alot of things u would like to do but somehow cant do aren’t there?
TO nutalie
“she or her mother/ whore/ mamsan didnt get payed enough. that is what rape means in china. no such thing as a chinease rape victim.”
it is get paid not “payed” okay?
In China, Rape means she or her mother didnt get paid enough. So, if ur sister (if u have one or ur mother if u dont have a sister) got payed enough after a man force her to hae sex with him. Then u wont say ur sister or ur mother got rape right? Coz she got enough money.
i highly doubt if ur sister or ur mother will like ur fucking stupid theory.
and one more thing, if u r a foreigner dont come here again until u eradicate illiteracy.
if u r a chinese dont come here too, coz no chinese will like ur “paid enough=not being rape” theory.
Speak 4 youself ho.
I for one welcome this new concept of paying equates to no rape. I’m off to “paying” Nutlaie’s mum. Hell yeah. A bit lose but then again I only got 2 dollars on me.
Nutalie is the shit.
its a life and death situation. if she did yell, what if he killed her? yes she would have been heard by neighbors, but she could have been dead at the moment.
i dont think there is a need to pick on the girl for not being assertiveness. yes if you imagined yourself in that predicament, you would have done otherwises. but you never know until you’re in it.
the biggest issue is to bring up awareness about meeting someone over the net or if you witness a something pecuilar at a location. also use a buddy system. most of all, dont follow a stranger home. stay in the public place!
her parents were timid and so was she.
he took advantage of the situation as much he could.
world is full of corrupt people. the stories never end.
ALL PEDOPHILES MUST DIE!!!!!
Ah man! Where’d you say that internet cafe was again?
When you are that young and you come from a country where you are to be obediant. it’s hard to take the heroic step and disobey especially when your family is being threatened. I don’t think his time was long enough. being an attemptive rape survivor, NOBODY HAS THE RIGHT TO DO THAT TO ANYONE AND IF GOD WAS SO KIND AS TO DELIVER HIM TO ME; LET’S JUST SAY THAT DEATH WOULD BE A WELCOME TO HIM!
I feel that her parents should have notified from the beginning, but I don’t know what was going onin their mind.
Fucking idiot parents. The rapist should’ve been jailed for at least a life sentence (25 years minimum). The parents should’ve been jailed for neglecting their child as well. They obviously don’t give a fuck about her so she should be put into care with a loving foster family who would take care of her. 9 years is a joke. Some woman got 10 years for cutting her cheating husband’s dick off after he brought a mistress home, had sex with her in his wife’s face while swearing at her for not joining in. WTF?
people need to start realising that if you can’t stand kids. don’t bring them into the world. your only going to be a bad example. if you had bad experience growing up. your only going to be a bad example. if you want them to continue your family name. your only going to be a bad example.
Nine years in prison is really a lenient sentence. Appealing to a higher court might possibly have led to a much harsher sentence, but I don’t know anything about the Chinese judicial system.