Xi’an Japanese Car Owner Beaten Video Exposed, Then Censored

A shirtless Chinese man attacks a Toyota Corolla with a metal u-lock during anti-Japan demonstrations in Xi'an, China.

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Video of Xi’an Japanese car owner who was seriously injured being beaten exposed

Recently a video of “9·15” Xi’an Japanese car owner Li Jianli severely injured in beating has been revealed/exposed. This video features a relatively complete recording of the incident, further restoring the truth. This video shows that after the Corolla was surrounded, Li Jianli had a brick in his hand protecting his car, had a conflict with the suspected criminal, and was knocked to the ground after being hit 4 times by the latter.

From Sina Weibo:

@李承鹏 [Li Chengpeng]: Although the video has yet again been deleted [censored], still I’m going to post a set of photos: Remember this face, it is this guy who used a U-shaped metal lock to brutally beat the Xi’an Japanese car owner Li Jianli’s head, while Li Jianli was even saying “I’m also Diaoyu Islands activist/supporter, I’m also anti-Japan”, but in vain, and the sound of bone breaking could be heard. Right now the right side of Li Jianli’s body is paralyzed, and has lost a part of his speaking ability. The most frightening thing was not the violence, but the violence being called natural and just. The Cultural Revolution was just like this.

Photos of the murderer.

Comments from Sohu:

克隆猛犸:

So vicious, Chinese people are too capable of being vicious to their own compatriots! Pathetic, disgusting!

BoBo小狐狸哒:

This was taking advantage of the anti-Japanese situation, probably yet another expression of anti-rich mentality rearing its head! If you’re going to smash a car, then just smash the car, why also beat people?! A perfectly good patriotic action was completely turned bad by you people! Severely punish the murderer!

Amy的爹地:

In this kind of situation, why get out of the car at all? If it were me, I’d just drive the car and run them down. It’s clear that if you don’t kill them, you yourself will be killed. If you’re willing to smash my car, I’m willing to run you fucking bastards over!

流光易断443784:

Those who buy Japanese cars are all Chinese traitors.

台妹_雅玲:

I watched a little bit and couldn’t watch any further! This is truly a crazy country!

闫涛:

If Mao’s poison is not wiped clean, evil will always remain!

陈源Hensu: (responding to above)

Even with things already at this point, still there are people compelled to associate it with “Mao poison”, clearly with no good intentions. This kind of opinion will only negatively affect the case/situation.

solo爱:

Everyone be more rational, since they’ve already bought them [Japanese cars], just let it go. To still go and beat them up and smash their cars would be too unfair. They too have mothers and fathers, don’t treat them as less than human. They too have their own kids to raise, and everybody has their own difficulties, who knew Japan would again provoke China? I think every household has one or two Japanese products, except you just don’t know it. Let’s not have our own people beating up our own people, allowing Japan to look at us as a laughing stock.

蓝大胆儿:

In this land, not a single class [of people] is safe anymore. You don’t know whether or not tomorrow you will be deprived of your life. If we don’t fight the state/government for our own rights, our descendants will be like this as well.

翩儿那个翩儿:

There’s an anger in the hearts of many people living in the lowest rungs of China, and this thug is one of them. The one who who is the most heavy-handed is often the one whose life is the most frustrated in real life, taking the opportunity to vent. The funny thing is that it’s labeled as “patriotism”. Pathetic!

白伟31度:

How deep must the hate be, to be so heavy-handed? Truly a scumbag. If he was sent to fight the Japan he probably would’ve knelt and surrendered long ago.

文心蜘蛛:

So many people at the scene yet not a single one stopped him, nor did a single person come out to grab the attacker. Truly disappointing.

特别的爱给特别你:

Chinese people simply shouldn’t be buying Japanese goods.

沧海遇上你: (responding to above)

Beast! Master Kong [a well-known brand of instant noodles] is also a Sino-Japanese joint-venture, has no one in your entire family ever eaten it before? Better drag your parents out and beat them up a couple times! Then you’ll stop zhuang bi‘ing like this!!!

老邪童二世:

In the future, Japan doesn’t need to fire a single bullet, they only need to stimulate the G-spot of China that is the Diaoyu Islands from time to time, and the Chinese will massacre themselves, reducing the population by at least half. Truly a joke the likes of which have never been seen before in history!

moscowman:

Xi’an Police, whether or not there was a measure of indulgence and complicity in this incident is something you guys know clearly in your hearts. Let’s first put aside whether or not this is being responsible to the ordinary common people, let your leaders ask themselves if they were responsible to those police officers in your ranks who were injured. When you set up traps to arrest johns, you guys act so swiftly, and it only takes just a few minutes for your little vans to arrest and take them to the police station. Now it’s fucking September 26 already, but have you cracked the case yet? Have you arrested the attacker yet?

蕾宝1212:

I think in the future when I go out I’ll carry a dagger with me, so when I encounter an attack from this kind of thug I can kill him myself, and not have to waste our country’s police force on issuing arrest warrants, tracking criminals, and holding commendation meetings~

SalarDeUyuni:

SB, if you have the balls, dare you to go smash some Lexus or Infinitis? Only capable of bullying the ordinary commoner who owns a 100,000 yuan car.

冒个大泡泡:

His wife’s screaming voice haunts me! Imagine what it would be like if this kind of thing happened to you? Would I sit in the driver’s seat and without the slightest hesitation step on the gas pedal, ramming my way out of the crowd? Perhaps I would, because I’d protect my family, my possessions, and my life at all costs! Because *** [the Communist Party] is useless! If this happens, please forgive me. It’s not that I don’t have a conscience, it’s because the evil regime has made me into a devil!

Chris_真2如血:

Can’t believe that even now the beast has not been arrested! Way to go, Xi’an Police!

搜狐网友11931284:

Chinese 2B, if you really have the balls, go to the Japanese embassy and kill Japanese people instead of just barking like dogs. Show some real balls and go hit Japan’s face [not one's own].

m王鑫:

Under such a circumstance and still protecting the car with a brick? Is the car worth more than your life?

翻石渡人:

The attacker is not anti-Japanese products, actually he’s just cynical/angry at this society.

醉了个猫:

Those who are on the wanted list are censored on all the major websites, what the fuck~~~
[Note: the police have issued an wanted list of those who have badly harmed people’s lives and possessions during the anti-Japan demonstrations.]

每个人有每个人的板凳:

Netizens are so busy, already having to fight *** [the Communist Party], and now having to find the attacker.

马玥琤:

Where the fuck did all the fucking cops go?! If this kind of person isn’t executed, it’ll just be a waste of China’s food every day! Cao! The 10 yuan tax money I pay every month is all going to feed this bunch of animals!

Charles-Tse:

Good thing I watched this video this morning! Why was it deleted [censored]? Why are all the major websites not allowed to upload/post it? Could it be the doings of *** [the Communist Party]? I don’t understand the actions of all the major websites. For that kind of beast, scum, and bastard to actually be protected, China is too dark/corrupt. Is our Party seeking its own doom? It’s quickly losing popular support!

多多的好爸爸:

If he’s human flesh searched out, I bet the result may just scare a lot of the rabble.

文澜实业:

*** there’s are both photos and a video, if you Xi’an police can’t catch him, what do we taxpayers feed you for?!

T-bagwellery:

If he’s not punished. the government will sooner or later be punished by the people.

What do you think? When this kind of thing happens, who bears the responsibility? The individual? The crowd? The government? The society? Where do we draw the lines?

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  • Vincent Richer

    I want to see the video.
    太无知了……

    • Boris

      In the meantime you’ll have to make do with this:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljPFZrRD3J8
      Song of the article:
      ‘Horse Outside’
      -The Rubberbandits.
      ‘Fuck your Honda Civic……. I’ve a horse outside.’

      • rollin wit 9′s

        dude, you were warned about that song of the article crap. Now cut it out before you get us all killed.

        • Germandude

          On a sidenote:

          Anybody else noticed that Hongjian pretty much stopped posting since that whole Island shit protests came up? What’s up with that?

          Would he feel like losing face if he came up bringing his rubbish propaganda while it shows his foolishness on a daily basis?

          • asdf

            He stopped posting ever since school started. I think I should leave too sometime before midterms. This is too distracting . . .

            wait how old are you guys?!?

    • Mao Ze Shenme Dong Dong

      Not the nicest thing to see but it shows how easy it is to have a bad day.

    • Winter B4 Spring

      OK. Sure. :P

  • Jennster

    in my city, japs got kicked and poured hot noodles on, but no chinese got bashed. maybe that guy in xian looked jap?

    • Boris

      Great f**king detective you’d make. Perhaps the guy who assulted him was just full of pent up anger, and this provided the perfect opportunity to unleash it? Had the victim been a Masai tribesman wearing nothing other than a kilt and a pair of wellington boots, I doubt the result would’ve been any different.

    • Midnight Owl

      so.. next time i see someone who looks Chinese, Japanese or Taiwanese, i`ll kick them and pour hot noodles on them in equal amounts lol.

      • Jennster

        we can tell by each others’ language. some non chinese might get confused with shanghainese and jap though

        • vince

          So while riots are going on, this supposed ‘Japanese’ individual would take his family out, drive a Japanese car and decide to step out of the safety of his own vehicle in a crowd comprised of overzealous retards? Apparently in this situation there is no excuse for what that bastard did to this poor fellow so stop trying to find a reason to justify his actions, how would you even know if any Chinese got bashed in your city, you can’t say for certain that is the case.

          • mr. wiener

            But I thought all Chinese were “so smart”?

        • http://redhotrussia.com Augis

          Why not to use the old American manual “How To Spot a Jap”?

          • e_h_carr

            Since WWII Japan has developed, China is still developing. These days Chinese people are the short, dark, racist ones, not the Japanese.

          • Kukuku

            Japanese not racists? AHAHAHAHA! MY SIDES!

            No seriously, I love Japanese stuff, especially their tv shows and anime. I even learned the language lol, but to say Japanese are not racist is absolutely wrong.

          • mr. wiener

            They are polite and charming racists.

    • vince

      Oh Lord…please don’t procreate.

      • http://www.metro.co.uk/weird/831224-teacher-wants-sex-with-students-to-say-sorry-for-japanese-invasion starting

        a chinese woman always gets the chance to procreate. whether with asian-white -black etc

        • vince

          I’m not talking about Chinese women in general… :|

        • Boris

          The only option available to you, however, is reproduction via mitosis.

      • Boris

        Unfortunately there is a direct correlation between stupidity and the ability to spawn offspring. Your prayer is likely to remain unanswered.

    • linette

      and the china police didn’t do anything? They can pour hot liquid on anyone and don’t go to jail? Amazing.

      • fman

        My understanding is the police organized the protests… so why arrest… this guy is just doing what the Police intended…. If there were any anti government signs the cops would shoot and burn, if the guy was beating a pro government support he would have been shot on the spot… He was just doing what the government wanted him to do… be a thug, a government thug.

    • moop

      you can take the mainlander out of the mainland, but you cant take the mainland out of the mainlander. your growth as a human being stopped a long time ago. pathetic.

      • Jennster

        what are you talking about? im in china. your visa’s up yankee. time to go home. ^_^

    • Bo Xilai For Emperor

      You mean the Jap-looking father of yours got hot noodles on his face like a money-shot? Nice!!!

      • Jennster

        careful. could be whiteys next if yankees start up something darl :D

    • Congratulations! You’re a racist cunt.

  • dede

    chinese people are so stupid
    they destroyed their own culture they are immature and can t think by themselves

    • RuffledFeathers

      You got that right

    • Kukuku

      5000 years and counting…

      Any time now guys.

      Guys?

    • Winter B4 Spring

      i believe it’s the party that should be blamed. i feel Chinese people too are victims and experiencing communism at its worst today. It was humiliating to have been making no progress, then invaded, and thus resorted to whatever that could seemingly “save” China — communism. As it turned out, on the contrary, communism invaded China, possessed the culture, raped the land, and killed the people :(
      I wish that China can be free from communism some day, and i believe that will be soon as the communist party is imploding :)

      • Winter B4 Spring

        …no progress, as in, during the later years of the Qing Dynasty. Kangxi’s time was glorious. That was early Qing though. I understood that Kangxi adapted the Manchurian culture into the Chinese culture and made it richer.

        • ChineseFighter

          Are you being sarcastic about all the Qing emperors tend to claim credits which don’t even belong to them? vandalising Ming histories and keep recording down fake bullshit.

      • 山炮 ShanPao

        Ever heard of an agent provocatuer? Many countries in the west use them in major demonstrations for press ops and gaining public support/distracting public attention. I dont think for one second that China would be morally above such a thing.

        Can’t think of a better distraction from the upcoming transition tbf. Well played beijing.

        • e_h_carr

          Can you back this claim up with a reliable source?

          • donnachadh

            Can he back up that he doesn’t think China would be morally above such a thing? Guess he could introspect and report his thoughts again. This is all he was reporting.

        • Tengu

          “Agent Provocateur” – great lingerie line.

          I hate to even weigh on on this whole thing, but this going apeshit over some scrubby ass islands is simply a way of redirecting the anger from the current political situation. They’re turning on themselves, makes them more pliant when they have another enemy.

          The old “Hey, look over there!”

          • mr. wiener

            Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.

  • Josh

    Who would’ve thought that when history books contain xenophobic, and in this case, anti-Japanese sentiment and when the government doesn’t try to placate the people that something like this would happen.

    The parts about destroying Japanese cars being a patriotic action was especially noteworthy.

    • donnachadh

      Absolutely. The Chinese government’s actions constitute incitement to hatred (which no doubt was their intent). As Sinead O’Connor once said, – ‘Fight the real enemy!’

  • http://500px.com/justinrjones whiskersthecat

    hurr durr I mad at Japanese I show them who owns island by attacking car hurr durr the world will understand and respect china now forever hurr durr

    • Alex

      herp! derp!

  • Ma Xian Sheng

    Once capable, always capable

    • Kukuku

      You got your prescription of viagra in the mail?

  • DR SUN

    Guess the low life idiots that did this couldn’t afford to buy a Japanese car themselves, simple low life village, non educated Chinese mentality.
    The social divide in China is going to bring it down, the govt running dogs have no idea how to address the massive social inequality in China, that they have created. So they need a enemy for the “common people” to hate, the enemy is Japan.

    Don’t blame him though, blame who did not educated him.

    • Wayne

      Beijing didn’t create problems of social inequality. It’s all rooted in massive overpopulation. India has many of the same problems. The economic outook looks good for China, but the problem is that means the rich are getting richer, driving the prices of housing and everything else through the roof, so the middle class can barely afford to raise a single kid, and even something like day care costs a full month’s salary. A growing economy doesn’t necessarily translate into anything positive for the middle class in a vastly overcrowded country.

      • Kukuku

        Another excuse.

      • Li RuiKe

        Countries with highest population densities, in order: Macau, Monaco, Singapore, Hong Kong. You overpopulation blamers have the tiniest brains. If you really believe your selfish lies, start correcting the problem by killing your family and then yourself.

        The REAL problem: greed, selfishness, and rotten governments.

      • vince

        hopefully your stupidity isn’t contagious.

        • moop

          the chinese love to make these excuses for their terrible behavior, they were too poor, there are too many… all so they can conveniently stay morally stagnant. once they stop making excuses for all the shitty people in their society and actually be proactive things will change

          • tai wai

            Those aren’t excuses. Those are facts. They ARE too poor. There ARE too many.

            Just as there IS too much social inequality, and the government IS too self-serving and corrupt.

            China’s people suffer for many reasons. They cause suffering for many reasons.

          • moop

            no, most of the time they are excuses and they are thrown around very liberally. these are the answers casually given by the chinese when they do something stupid and they act like that’s all there is to it and it cant be changed. you think this guy was beaten because chinese people are poor or because their government keeps them full of hate?

          • Kukuku

            And being too poor or too many aren’t at the top of the list. The rich in China have the same defects the poor do.

          • vince

            @ tai wai those are valid points but the government could at least help provide them with the means to an education, I’ve read quite a few articles on this site about the condition in rural areas of China.
            This course of action would at least allow those in rural areas to be able to think rationally, cause a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.

          • linette

            Just as there IS too much social inequality, and the government IS too self-serving and corrupt..

            YEs, china gov’t is to blame for everything. I agreed. IT’s true. But the 400 millions plus urban rich folks in china cities should take more initiative in taking active roles to improve their society. There are many things can be changed. Like start up some charity services. Petition for the gov’t to raise funds to help building schools and healthcare for the rurals. Petition and ask the china gov’t to tighten building safety and food safety. The 400 millions plus urban chinese can take more active roles. Like the people in Hong kong always pay close attention to their hk gov’t and their society, and on their internet.

          • tai wai

            you think this guy was beaten because chinese people are poor or because their government keeps them full of hate?

            Well, yeah. I do.

          • Chris

            agree..even the Rich ain’t any good in China these days, so what the excuse these Rich Chinese have…ohhh we are too rich..so we are morally corrupt and for the Poor…ohh we are too poor so we are morally corrupt..Its just an excuse…

            A person is not defined by his income but by his morals not the other way around

          • tai wai

            A person is not defined by his income but by his morals not the other way around

            “To get rich is glorious.” — Deng Xiaoping

            That IS Chinese morality.

            Prostitutes get more respect than poor people.

          • asdf

            Correct. The Chinese are all genetically predisposed to be shitty whiny and stupid. We cannot consider any environmental factors as an excuse to their amorality, terrible behavior, and inferior intellect.

          • moop

            “Correct. The Chinese are all genetically predisposed to be shitty whiny and stupid. We cannot consider any environmental factors as an excuse to their amorality, terrible behavior, and inferior intellect.”

            my original comment is to highlight their liberally using being poor and too populous as an excuse and then just writing off bad behavior. as long as that behavior continues and bad behavior keeps getting written off, there will be no change in chinese society. some of their problems ARE cause by their history of being poor and populous, but this excuse has become a crutch for a lot of chinese. as soon as they start even rejecting this as an excuse they will not improve and will continue rationalizing their poor behavior away

          • moop

            i meant to say “not until they start to reject using these as excuses can they improve their society instead of rationalizing their poor behavior away”

          • tai wai

            We cannot consider any environmental factors as an excuse to their amorality, terrible behavior, and inferior intellect.

            Eh, I get the impression that moop is a “personal responsibility” kind of guy, even when talking about a country that epitomizes “groupthink” and “mob mentality.”

            I’ve learned that pretty much whatever a Chinese person thinks, they believe it is “the Chinese way.”

            “Everyone knows that…”

          • RuffledFeathers

            I’m with moop on this one. Overpopulation is of course an issue in China, but who’s fault is that? The government has had a 1 child policy and this is frequently abused by the people. A student once told me, when I asked her why so many of their generation have a brother or sister, despite the 1 child policy, that “you can pay to have another child”. In other words, she was referring to the fine they pay for breaching the law, and it seems many in China were okay to pay it.

            The fact is, there’s two ways of thinking for most people in China. The way of guanxi and the way of meiguanxi: either you get through by favors, backhanders and friends in high places, or you don’t give a shit about anything, and just do what you feel like.

            China exists in an environment of moral relativism, where people just do shit because it’s what everyone else does and no one’s ever told them different, because to do so would be inharmonious. The government is in part responsible for dumbing down and controlling the populace, but to behave in such an animalistic and narrow-minded fashion, like smashing up a car and beating the occupants just because it’s Japanese, without any consideration of what exactly they are doing and what the repercussions are, smacks more of an innate desire not to change and improve themselves.

          • tai wai

            I’m with moop on this one. Overpopulation is of course an issue in China, but who’s fault is that? The government has had a 1 child policy and this is frequently abused by the people

            Iunno, who’s fault is it? The peoples?

            China exists in an environment of moral relativism, where people just do shit because it’s what everyone else does and no one’s ever told them different, because to do so would be inharmonious.

            Circular argument is circular.

            It’s society’s fault that people are immoral. Immoral people lead to an immoral society.

            So who is really at fault? The society, or the people?

          • asdf

            It’s not just the Chinese who make these excuses, The foreign media loves to blame every little act of “bad behavior” by individual Chinese people on their messed up society and the government’s overall incompetence.

            Hit and run in China -> CHINESE SOCIETY/GOVERNMENT
            Woman gets raped in China -> CHINESE SOCIETY/GOVERNMENT
            Chinese Guy smashes car -> CHINESE SOCIETY/GOVERNMENT
            Michael Jackson molests kids -> american society ok, he just has problems

          • tai wai

            The foreign media loves to blame every little act of “bad behavior” by individual Chinese people on their messed up society and the government’s overall incompetence.

            It’s not “the media,” so much, it’s the values expressed by that particular media, or person.

            Some people wholly blame the person for their actions. Others, the society/environment. Me, being a liberal from the West, I tend to lean towards the latter.

            My experience in China hasn’t changed that outlook, only strengthened it, really. “All loo— act same, bad culture.”

            It takes a LOT to be outspoken here. It is easier to be harmonious, to go with the flow, even if that flow is very, very wrong. Individualism is frowned upon!

            So, how can we, with our eyes open, espouse personal responsibility? They only time people are held responsible here is if they make waves, if they don’t just go along. THAT is what is punished.

          • moop

            “It’s not just the Chinese who make these excuses” here we go again

          • tai wai

            here we go again

            Q: Hey, if you can’t blame the West, who can you blame?

            A: Little Japan.

          • asdf

            Yes when foreigners label Chinese as immature whiners, they are the voice of reason but when Chinese ppl criticize foreigners for making the very same unreasonable excuses, that just makes us even bigger whiners. Ok. That’s too much logic for me. I can’t argue with you guys.

          • moop

            i’m sorry, all i heard was “he said something bad about china, i must defend china’s dignity against the big bad foreigners by deflecting”

          • asdf

            i’m sorry, all i heard was “he said something bad about foreigners, i must defend my dignity against the big bad Chinese by deflecting”

          • moop

            “i’m sorry, all i heard was “he said something bad about foreigners, i must defend my dignity against the big bad Chinese by deflecting””

            haha, whats next, “i’m rubber, you’re glue” gtfo

          • moop

            ” I can’t argue with you guys.”

            thats true, you’d have to actually address the argument made to do so. you havent. tai wai has, he joined in the discussion. you have contributed nothing except trying to change the subject.

          • asdf

            Oh here we go again… the personal attacks. When you run out of arguments, start throwing insults. You win again. I’m leaving. Please continue telling everyone what an idiot i am.

          • moop

            everyone, listen up asdf is an idiot

          • Germandude

            asdf, please don’t leave. I for one welcome to hear/read your point of view. I am not necessarily agreeing with everything you say/said but if everyone is of the same opinion, then there is no need for discussing.

          • sonny

            @asdf

            “Hit and run in China -> CHINESE SOCIETY/GOVERNMENT
            Woman gets raped in China -> CHINESE SOCIETY/GOVERNMENT
            Chinese Guy smashes car -> CHINESE SOCIETY/GOVERNMENT
            Michael Jackson molests kids -> american society ok, he just has problems”

            it’s definitely like this sometimes. even when the mass media does try to be more “introspective” they usually only come up with superficial garbage e.g. blaming video games for columbine. fuck viacom, newscorp, and the rest of them. private sector cctv.

      • dr_barefoot

        you must be joking
        China will be brought down by the rotten party’s CORRUPTION of staggering magnitude.
        In the ten years leading to 2008 things were still kinda peachy, but once inflation started to add to the existing corruption, numbers stopped adding up for the little man who wants to feed himself and his family and cover their needs.

        Their collective pent up anger is building up and they’ll blow a gasket sooner or later unless corruption is at least brought within reasonable margins.

        tic tac tic tac…

      • fman

        India’s government ministers aren’t mostly millionaires and billionaires though are they? The commie government has problems due tot he fact it’s own “communist” (capitalists) are among the richest in the country. Using their positions of power to get filthy rich all the while “working tirelessly for the common people”

    • linette

      So they need a enemy for the “common people” to hate, the enemy is Japan…..

      I am beginning to feel sorry for Japan. Sure they are stupid for harassing the chinese fishermen and keep insisting diaoyu belongs to them. But japan has nothing to do with all the social inequality and corruption within the nation of China. It is strictly the china gov’t’s fault. The china gov’t is to blame for all the “ugliness” in China. The china chinese are angry and their gov’t is encouraging them to vent their anger on japan. Shame on you china gov’t.

      • tai wai

        Again, if that is the case, they picked a rather bad target to make the enemy.

        They can’t take substantive action against Japan without pissing off the rest of the world (war is right out). But now, they have to do something or they risk pissing off the “common people.”

        “We thought they’d just cry about being oppressed and pledge allegiance to the Party, like usual. Chinese rabble aren’t supposed to get violent!”

        • RuffledFeathers

          I think I made it clear it’s the people’s fault that Chinese society is bad.

          • tai wai

            Hm, OK.

            Not sure what that has to do with the government using Japan as a target.

            The rabble demands that they do, maybe?

        • RuffledFeathers

          My comment was in support of what moop said about the Chinese always blaming overpopulation and poverty for their lack of morals. The fact is it’s not entirely the government who is to blame for the social problems in China. especially retarded acts of violence like the one in this story. Yes the anti-Japanese sentiment is government brainwashing, but it’s up to the individual’s own mind and personality to determine what they do with that sentiment. You think even Chinese people have absolutely no will power? Oh wait…

          “Some people wholly blame the person for their actions. Others, the society/environment. Me, being a liberal from the West, I tend to lean towards the latter.”

          I have my answer then.

          • RuffledFeathers

            “Some people wholly blame the person for their actions. Others, the society/environment. Me, being a liberal from the West, I tend to lean towards the latter.”

            Seriously, I cannot believe you actually typed that. So by your thinking, this guy is not to be held to account for what he’s done, but instead “society” should be punished. Go ahead, blame the rich Japanese car owner, after all being wealthy and driving a Jap car is kind of asking for a beatdown from the common people right?

          • tai wai

            Seriously, I cannot believe you actually typed that. So by your thinking, this guy is not to be held to account for what he’s done, but instead “society” should be punished. Go ahead, blame the rich Japanese car owner, after all being wealthy and driving a Jap car is kind of asking for a beatdown from the common people right?

            Excellent reading comprehension there. Try this: We should seek to discover why this guy is so angry.

            Barring insanity, you’ll pretty much always find that the cause is social. In this case, it is envy of the rich, or hatred of Japan, or just plain poor upbringing and surroundings, fed into his head by a poor society.

            Everyone is a product of their environment. So, that is what you need to fix. Just punishing the perpetrator of a crime solves little if society corrupts everyone to become criminals.

  • simon

    China should enact “an eye for an eye” policy, that way this asshole can get his justice served on a platter, have him fucking paralyzed.

    • DR SUN

      Simon,

      A very very clever person once said

      ” an eye for eye makes the whole world blind ”

      Think about that.

      • simon

        problem is, the justice system is too lenient, not just in China. Child molesters get a few years in jail, human traffickers, drunk drivers who run people over etc. etc.

        Would people think twice about doing some of these things if justice reflected harsher/”fairer” means of punishment? i think very much so, hey you want to rape little kids? well, you’re going to get a lifetime of ass raping when you are in jail. You want to drink and drive and have someone run over? yeah buddy, you’ll get the death penalty too.

        I think what you’re saying is in the context of revenge, nobody should take the law into their hands as the whole world would go to shits. But “an eye for an eye” would be a means for “preventive action”.

        • swat
          • BigCAD

            Glad to see the teachings of Mao are alive and well in the Chinese youth-in-Asia.

          • vince

            That is creepy…

        • HinDL

          So thats’s why in the US there are no murders, because of the preventive effect of capital punishment! Oh, wait…

        • Germandude

          Oh yeah Simon. It’s proven that the crime rate in countries with harsh penalties are safer than the ones without. I mean look at the safety heaven in the US and compare that to the vicious crimes you see in Switzerland.

          Oh, hold on… Did I get things twisted?

          • simon

            you can’t really compare the two countries, there’s a multitude of factors involved including wealth disparity, geographical land area, diversity etc.

            a better comparison would be between countries of similar characteristics, for example (last i heard) singapore seems to have harsher laws in response to menial crimes, you could possibly do a comparison against Switzerland or any other small country with more liberal judicial policies.

          • Germandude

            OK Simon,

            How about comparing the US to France, Germany or the Netherlands then? Either of these 3 countries has a huge level of immigration. In France, you have a lot of black Africans, Moroccans and basically from either of their former colonies. In the Netherlands, the same: a lot of Africans, Moroccans and people from the small former colonies such as Curacao. In Germany, you have a lot of Turkish, Polish and Russians.

            Neither of those countries has a crime rate as high as the US (doesn’t matter if you compare people with immigration background or not). Neither of those countries has such a harsh jurisdicial system as the US.

            Each of these 3 countries has a very organized social service system (which I don’t necessarily support 100%, but that’s another topic).

            I strongly believe that the lack of a social system and the easy access to weapons is a major component for the high crime rates. Also, don’t forget that “From a dish washer to a millionaire” (The American Dream) brings in a lot of people believing it. Nobody is talking about the exact opposite happening “From a millionaire to a dish washer” as well. Bring people to the stage of desperation, give them easy access to weapons and there you go with more brutal crimes and a justification of “I take matters into my own hands”.

            I am supporting death penality for rapists, child molesters and murderers as well, please don’t get me wrong.

          • tai wai

            you can’t really compare the two countries, there’s a multitude of factors involved including wealth disparity, geographical land area, diversity etc.

            You can’t compare the crime rates of countries that are different economically, geographically, or demographically?

            Why not?

            Perhaps the economic, geographic, of demographic factors are the CAUSE of the differences?

          • Germandude

            Lol tai wai. I wish you hadn’t said that. I hoped that Simon would tried to get that by himself.

          • sonny

            @taiwai, germandude

            “You can’t compare the crime rates of countries that are different economically, geographically, or demographically? Why not?”

            you can’t compare countries’ records, because police procedures and legal definitions vary widely. some statistics list canada and australia as the kidnapping capitals of the world, sweeden as the rape capital of the world, etc. obviously not true. experts have this to say:

            “So, for instance, when a woman comes to the police and she says my husband or my fiance raped me almost every day during the last year, the police have to record each of these events, which might be more than 300 events. In many other countries it would just be one record – one victim, one type of crime, one record.”

            “For example, if I punch somebody and the person eventually dies, some countries can consider that as an intentional murder, others as a manslaughter. Or in some countries, dowry killings are coded separately because there is separate legislation.”

            source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-19592372

          • simon

            no shit tai wai, i don’t know why you specifically brought this up. If you read my original post, it wasn’t about comparing crime rates between countries, i was merely just stating laws should reflect harsher penalties as preventative measures.

            Which is why i replied to germandude IF you want to make comparisons, you need to use countries having similar characteristics WITH the only noticeable variable being differences in the justice/severity of punishments. So yeah, you basically supported my point.

          • simon

            Germandude, i think you misunderstood what i’m trying to say. My point was that harsher penalties would be a way of lowering/preventing crime, i never said that it was the only way.

            If you wanted to prove my opinion as incorrect, than you would NEED to gather data of countries similar in most respects with the only difference being the severity of punishment. Than you would be able to say “oh look at xx country and yy country, they both are very similar except in the severity of punishment. xx country has more severe punishment but crime rate is higher than yy country, your opinion is wrong”.

            Statistics is a tricky thing, you could put all sorts of countries in, infer the hell out of the data but it would mean squat because correlation doesn’t necessarily mean causation.

    • moop

      “eye for an eye” is already most mainlanders sense of justice. their idea of justice is revenge. how is that working for them? they need the rule of law not a perpetuation of the status quo

      • cc

        They need the law to be enforced, Chinese populations main problem is there total disregard for any of the rules and laws.

  • beiji

    What a shame, why we never learn from WWII, because China was not united that’s why the Japs took advantage of us. Now the time has come to show the Japs we’d wise up and show them our united “middle fingers” but instead we show to the world we’re a joke by beating each other up while the japs sit at the comfort of their home watching & laughing their ass-off, perhaps after we done killing each other then the Japs could send their imperial army once more to take over the disgrunted China.

    • Nick in Beijing

      You primitive retard. Is that really all you got out of this?

      • beiji

        I will restrain myself from calling people names because by doing so, that person already exposed itself as a weak and uncivilized, so talk and “sting” your oppenent with a resourceful mind and legit arguements not by swearing coz anybody can swear but not many people can think.

        • Young Man

          Your OPINIONS are weak and moronic. Your COMMENT is retarded. Your IDEAS are stupid and immature.

          There you go, that isn’t personal is it? Happy?

          • beiji

            Young man you are what you said for the thing you said is the reflection of yourself and i feel sorry for your race and your ancestors for having such a tainted product in their family tree.

        • vince

          Apparently you’re one of those people who can’t think, the irony! =.=

    • moop

      “What a shame, why we never learn from WWI” while, you apparently have learned… absolutely nothing. the japanese took advantage of you because you refused to open to the outside world. they knew how easily an unindustrialized country is to take advantage of because they themselves were victims. since about the 15th century china decided it was too awesome and did some really stupid things like shutting down their exploration programs, china’s problem was and still is arrogance

      • beiji

        So Moop what r you trying to say here, by China shutting down its exploration programs that makes it justified for the Japs to start raping, looting and killing the chinese in WWII?

        • moop

          nope, i’m saying one of the reasons china was too weak to defend herself because she did things like that. she didnt benefit from ideas and technology and resources that would have come as a result

        • tai wai

          Morally justified, or realistically justified?

    • simon

      what a shame beiji, you made a reasonable statement and now you’re getting gb’ed by the gay-bro brigade.

  • Jennster

    i heard the protests were most violent in tier b cities.

  • Jennster

    gotta thank japan for nationalising the islands on same day as marco polo bridge incident, thus leaving the status quo. wouldn’t that give the chinese an excuse for further military buildup?

    • moop

      they nationalized it to stop the tokyo mayor from buying it because he wanted to develop it. the national government buying those islands actually is the best-case scenario. you’re clueless as usual

    • Bo Xilai For Emperor

      A military build-up to roll into your town and use their tanks to roll over your house with you it for visiting this site.

      • Jennster

        what a dumb foreigner you are. this is fauna’s site, living in the same city as me. you are an outsider darl. know your place.

  • Getrealson

    “Everyone be more rational, since they’ve already bought them [Japanese cars], just let it go. To still go and beat them up and smash their cars would be too unfair. They too have mothers and fathers, don’t treat them as less than human. They too have their own kids to raise, and everybody has their own difficulties, who knew Japan would again provoke China? I think every household has one or two Japanese products, except you just don’t know it. Let’s not have our own people beating up our own people, allowing Japan to look at us as a laughing stock”

    This guy/girl should be running the country!

    • tai wai

      Not really. They’re just saying “the enemy is out there, guys! Out there!”

      A real leader should be calming the people and saying that “Japan is not our enemy.”

      Mature nations don’t have enemies. They have conflicting interests.

      “Enemies” are for the rabble.

      • Getrealson

        You’re right! Hu jin tao doing a sterling job!

  • http://500px.com/justinrjones whiskersthecat

    Whatever happened to Richardnorth? I miss his ability to make every article needlessly sexual.

    • BigCAD

      That is raging retard has obviously never felt the touch of a women…good enough for you?

      • http://500px.com/justinrjones whiskersthecat

        I’m not entirely sure of what you just said or the point you were making…

  • Cleo

    This nonnegotiable aggression is the Blackification of the Mainland Chinese. If this hadn’t already happened to African Americans, Africa wouldn’t be as safe from German operatives. Making the targeted tribe this way puts their predators on notice.

    Cue Lil’ Wayne.

    This is not about the car owner, he’s incidental but there will be a fringe benefit because they will never fear righteous indignation of Chinese the way they cower and appease and HAVE NO PROBLEM with the Japanese goblins. This changes the script.

    Is this what they call a “pivot”?

    • Cleo

      Heidi Klum is NOTHING compared to what Black Folks want to do to Germans and Japanese and all their long term American operatives. You think, Mark Fuhrman was an accident? It’s all part and parcel of the same game, the same war.

      And it stokes and keeps the fire ALIVE because some people SHOULD be hated.

      • Getrealson

        You weren’t just indoctrinated! You were ass raped with the whole book! WTF are you on about? You are a raving lunatic. Do chinese mental asylums have internet access now?

      • Germandude

        Hey Cleo, what have my country mates done to your kind that u r hating the Germans? Can u clarify?

        • Young Man

          My mother’s family are Jewish so Germans did plenty to MY family.

          Hope your grandmother enjoyed being raped when the Red Army marched through your shitty little country.

          Now; why don’t you go fuck yourself, mmmm?

          • moop

            why do i get teh feeling you’re lying? why say your mother’s family? that would make you jewish. why not say you’re jewish? but i could be wrong. either way, you’re dumb

    • http://500px.com/justinrjones whiskersthecat

      but has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

      • simon

        i think it would make sense if we were all smoking weed.

        • Vault Dweller

          Nope, makes no sense :<

          • Jennster

            he’s saying the american pivot and non-negotiable agressive containment to asia and china respectively is like how they treat african americans or black people, whilst bowing down to japan regardless of how ‘evil’ japanese have been to asians. this is all due to the need to create something to hate, which in this case is mainland china and chinese.

            he uses sophisticated English words but has bad expression.

          • Brett Hunan

            No, Jennster. Where the hell did you come up with that?

            I’m pretty sure his point is that Cleo is crazy and her ramblings are impossible to comprehend, as was his reply.

          • mr. wiener

            Jennster.
            That’s kind of like me taking a dump in the middle of the street and you calling it a “statement of post -modern art”.

          • moop

            “he’s saying the american pivot and non-negotiable agressive containment to asia and china respectively is like how they treat african americans or black people, whilst bowing down to japan regardless of how ‘evil’ japanese have been to asians. this is all due to the need to create something to hate, which in this case is mainland china and chinese.”

            i see you’re fluent in raving retard

          • tai wai

            whilst bowing down to japan regardless of how ‘evil’ japanese have been to asians.

            America doesn’t bow down to Japan. We use them to further our interests. Take notes. That’s how a superpower rolls.

            this is all due to the need to create something to hate

            If the Chiense government wanted to use Japan as a target/scapegoat, they picked a poor one, because the government is powerless to actually DO anything against Japan.

            So, now they’re in a corner. Start a war during a pivotal transition of power (and piss the world off), or do nothing and appear weak against Japan (and piss the rabble off).

            BAD TIMING.

          • Jennster

            you whiteys can’t even understand your own language LMAO.

          • Jennster

            i’m pretty sure japanese manufacturing data went down from the expected 0.4% stagnation t0 1.3% just recently, due to Chinese boycott on their exports. It is very easy to punish japan, rare earth ban is another method. we are their largest exporter, yet china is not their largest. FACT

            tee hee

      • the ace of books

        Come on, Whiskersthecat, you need to take a holistic view of Cleo. In fact, I’m absolutely certain that Cleo has been further even more decided to use even go need to do look more than anyone else in the area in which s/he resides. I mean, could you, in good conscience, really be far even as decided half as much to use go wish for that? The going theory about Cleo is that, once s/he has really been far even as decided once to use even go want, it is only then that s/he has really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like.

        • Kukuku

        • http://500px.com/justinrjones whiskersthecat

          You are right in the sense that we as a people want that do going to other than the right way is of even not go if decide.

          • the ace of books

            Yeah. I’m glad we agree on that. Now if only China could be further than decide to want which way need there to even look go, while Japan would just be going to want decide there to need going to do looking more than to use more like, then we’d have a nice stop to this whole damn nonsense and everybody could take their toys and leave the sandbox alone. Ah, if only.

            (Now all that’s left is the Middle East…)

          • Kukuku

            The goggles do nothing!

        • Brett Hunan

          I swear I read that like 6 times until I figured out you were taking the piss. I thought I lost my ability to read. I need coffee.

          • Wu

            Yeah… I am with Brett here. I was wondering what they are talking about, but now I am wondering how they can understand each other? Must be the same person.

          • Brett Hunan

            I don’t think they understand each other. They are just having a good time making no sense at all.

          • the ace of books

            Wu – Nope, I am not in fact Whiskersthecat. We are both quoting a certain meme – http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/has-anyone-really-been-far-even-as-decided-to-use-even-go-want-to-do-look-more-like .

            Brett Hunan – Basically :D Also, drink enough coffee and I swear it’ll start making sense.

          • http://500px.com/justinrjones whiskersthecat

            ace of books and I are twins. The kind that develop their own language and have some sixth sense about each other. Like the ones you see on TV that get separated but end up marrying people with the same name and then one dies in a horrible, grisly, painful traffic accident (ace of books) and the other (me) just starts crying as if randomly, but it’s because he subconsciously knows his brother is gone.

        • http://soundcloud.com/starhawk-1 Little Wolf

          I think Cleo’s post are the Chinasmack version of the daily Sudoku or NYT crossword puzzle. You know, like a brain teaser to help us exercise our brains trying to decode whatever the fuck she means.

          • the ace of books

            That must be it. Although – watch out if you do start uderstanding. That is when the conversion begins.

    • Getrealson

      You are the perfect example of what happens when you spend 12 years learning how to pass exams, rather than actually learn something. In this case – English. I’m sure you got a high mark, but real world application yet again fails dismally.

    • Bo Xilai For Emperor

      Cleo, were you the Madam Cleo the Jamaican fortune teller who have the informercials on around midnight on TV? Damn you smoke too much Gunja

  • Vault Dweller

    How much would one have to give up in order to boycott Japanese goods? I’m not an expert on Japanese trade, but it seems like it would be quite tough in the electronics realm. Even if you side with non-Japanese brands for things like computer hardware, fans, cameras, MP3s, displays etc, Japan makes alot of the basic components like capacitors and controllers that end up inside everyone’s stuff. Sure, you can get non-Japanese capacitors, but Japanese caps are high quality – it seems like you’d just be hurting yourself in order to hurt someone else, kinda like looping a rope around both your and your enemy’s legs and jumping into the ocean.

    I don’t blame the guy, if a bunch of people tried to damage or destroy my car, i’d brick the kents as well.

    • Alex

      First they’d have to stop using their ID cards(身份证) they’re made by a japanese company.
      Then they’d have to stop using almost anything electronical, including screens which only 2 companies in the world make some of the components(Samsung-Korean and Shark-Japanese).
      Stop using cameras. Even Leica cameras use japanese components.
      Subway computer system is japanese.
      Gaotie is based on japanese-korean technology.
      All the cars made by chinese companies have mitsubishi motors.

      Is what I say always.. “yeah, 抗日, but if you had a bag of milk powder from China and one from Japan, which one would you give your child?”

      • Anon

        You know, throwing Chinese into English sentence isn’t really less obnoxious than Chinese throwing around English buzzwords.

        • tai wai

          不,你

  • Getrealson

    Anyone got any links to protest videos? Great firewall trumped me and ninjacloak.com not letting youtube load.

  • White Guy in USA

    Japanese Cars are superior to all other cars. Also I asked my friend if she would smash her own Car if that country did something like this and she didn’t understand what the hell I was talking about. Who the hell smashes up their own car?
    Crazy Chinese!

    • Jennster

      http://www.chinabuzz.net/buzz/man-sets-his-japanese-car-ablaze-in-shanghai/

      i’m pretty sure lamborghini, ferrari, mercedes benz, bmw, porsche are all better than japanese cars

      • Cooljackal

        I don’t know about that. As a car person myself I would say that for the value, japanese cars are superior right now. Korean cars are getting close to it. German cars like vw still have quality issues to work out (i.e gti engine issues anyone?) but they do man really nice cars in terms of initial quality. Mercedes, BMW have good engines and mechanical designs but they have issues with electronics and some basics.

        As for the high end cars, I would agree that ferrari’s are great. Take a look at the ferrari factory documentary to see how much care goes into every single car they manufacture.

        • Jennster

          cleary german/italian cars are the best. that’s why they are not called economical but luxury cars.

          in china we don’t really use japanese cars like the yanks, majority import german or yank cars. and most rich people don’t got for japanese cars but german cars. those rich young people go for italian brands.

          • Getrealson

            Chinese stupidity! More expensive + rich people buy it = better

            BBAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH! Fucking sheep

          • Jennster

            cheap chinese goods are fine too of course. thanks for making the chinese richer.

          • Cooljackal

            It’s alright getrealson.

            Jennster, don’t confuse luxury with “best”. If you mean german cars have the best sales among rich Chinese, then yes I agree. If you say chinese cars have the best sales among China as a whole, then I agree too.

          • Cooljackal

            Also, there are economy cars from german and italian manufacturers as well. It’s a type. Just like there are luxury cars from america, japan and korea.

          • Jennster

            even though being obsessed with status things isn’t good but the old chinese who always go for those black benz cars would know which one is better, due to comparison, wouldn’t you think? plenty overseas use economical japanese/korean cars as well, even though they are more uglier.

            ps. when i was in singapore 1/3 cars was eiher bmw or benz…

          • Cooljackal

            ….

          • Getrealson

            there is a difference between fair comparison and overcompensation for a racial inferiority complex. Cars are put into categories ie. Best small car, best luxury car, best 4wd, SUV etc.

            People have different needs:

            Luxury/Safety = usually Euro

            Economical = Jap/Korean

            Power/Awsome looking = yank

          • Wu

            Whoa, hold on. There are lots of Japanese cars in China.

            Sure, Luxury cars are better, but that is like saying a Aus. Steak dinner is better than tuna salad for dinner.

          • moop

            “when i was in singapore 1/3 cars was eiher bmw or benz” you do know that it costs like $50,000 to get just a certificate of entitlement, dont you? at that price, why would it be surprising that there are a lot of expensive cars in singapore?

      • White Guy in USA

        Every German car from VW to Porsche constantly breaks down. They cost a fortune to service and repair. You have to take them to the dealer to have the oil changed and it cost a fortune for just that. Japanese cars are the most reliable and can be serviced anywhere for very little money.
        The only reliable luxury cars are the Japanese ones, Acura, Infinite and, Lexus.

        • Cooljackal

          You know, for the longest time I wanted to get a GTI but the main thing holding me back were the quality problems (mainly the random engine stalls when you are stuck in packed freeway traffic)! I sat in one in the UK and it was fantastic. The quality drops slightly when it goes stateside though.

          • linette

            I had leased a honda accord, hyundai sonata , and owned a volkswagen jetta. And I will say straight out Japan made cars are no doubt without competition better. Japan are able to make good quality cars selling at reasonable price. Korean hyundai is a piece of garbage. If you have the choice between honda and hyundai…trust me..after driven both you will pick honda without hesitation. The hyundai false market and lied about the horse power. They send me a recall notice after they sold me the car. Jetta the car feels more sporty and more fun to drive. But german car is expensive to maintain and price more expensive. America car like chrysler is nice too. Price is competitive and maintenance is not expensive. I will pick japanese cars over American cars. German cars for fun but a bit too expensive. I won’t waste my money on Korean cars.

          • Tengu

            Depends on how long you’ve been driving big German cars.

            You have a good mechanic, a reliable model and year, you’ll get 250k out of it and it will drive better than any other car with 60k on it. And some of the big ones will scream like a savage.

            Just need to research your years and have guys who only work on them. My guy won an award the last two years. Benz gives 6 o them out worldwide in a year. No dealer !!!

            Certain years, models you just stay away from.

            Italian cars are great, but ridiculous to maintain, I assume we’re talking the bull and the horse here, Lambos oddly enough hold some value, never find one for under $90k.

            The red heads are different….

          • Cooljackal

            Haha, yes Tengu. I’ve had a cousin with a 2001 3 series that ran like a champ for about 9 years without any big issues. My other cousin had a 2000 3 series that had nothing but trouble. He eventually replaced it after his wife wrecked it in an accident.

            The italian cars I was talking about were like the alfas. But a lambo would be nice too. I don’t know if I would want to pay for a $600 door handle replacement in san fran though :)

      • markx

        Jennster – I’m sorry to tell you, but you are simply a victim of good marketing.

        Though it depends how you wish to value a car – if it is on reliability and efficiency, Japanese cars (usually) win, with Korean cars a close second.

        If you judge them on prestige and status, yes, the German and other ‘luxury’ brands have that ‘manufactured’ into their marketing.

        Audi for a long time topped the list in Britain on RAC stats for number of callouts (adjusted of course to account for number of each type on the road) VW is probably topping the list out now, and years ago it was Jaguar and Rover (yes, before they were even connected!)

        Beemers however, are pretty reliable, just not quite as good as Japanese and Korean cars.

        • Jennster

          look, japanese/korean cars aren’t bad but the chinese won’t prefer them first based on overall rating. they are second best. i know americans like japanese cars, but chinese like german cars lol. also all poll ratings put them in first place (the have great engines), japan second. you can’t simply pass a country with over 100 years in quality with a lexus. :D

          • Cooljackal

            Well, going back to your original statement then. You should have said, Chinese really like german luxury cars. Because no matter what you claim, there is no person alive today who knows cars that will tell you that german cars beat japanese in terms of reliability. At least right now.

            Personally, I’ve owned four cars:

            1) Dodge neon – not very nice looking but had a lot of features for its class. Old but ran along just fine without any issues other than a radiator leak.
            2) Mazda 3 – new, not bad for its class, never had any issues with it. Ran like a champ.
            3) BMW 328i – Slick sexy car, a little skimp on the options unless you drop some money (only needed the sports package). The driving was amazing, beats most other cars. Reliability nightmare, was in the shop every other month. Brake light failed withint 8 months, traction control system failed within a year. Bluetooth went intermittent. Clinking noise from rear axle (needed a part from germany to lubricate it!).
            4) Infiniti M35 sport = sexy inside and out. Not as luxurious on the inside as a fully loaded merc but still up there. Again, NEVER had an issue with this car. I miss this car more than the others because it had style, was fun to drive and never gave me any problems.

            Luxury, sportiness, etc are another story. For example, in the compact car side, I would like the mito gt over say the honda civic si, because of the slick look interior/exterior design and fun-to-drive factor. But the honda will probably last longer with less headaches.

          • Cooljackal

            Also, the “100 year” comment doesn’t work anymore.

            Some people hate to admit it but California wines ended up beating some French wines at competitions in France, even though France has many many years of experience. There is actually a movie about this as well (albeit a bit dramatized).

            Just because you have been doing something longer doesn’t mean you can’t be beaten at it by a newcomer. Lots of other examples of this.

          • Nick in Beijing

            Jennster is just pointing out Chinese snobbishness. Chinese don’t often buy cars for their reliability or economy, only for their status giving ability.

            I bought a 150cc R9 style scooter with an engine made by one of the 4 or 5 big scooter engine manufacturers yesterday. I went to fill it up at the gas station for the first time (woohoo for being able to get legal plates and certs!) and when I was at the pump filling up a big ass boat of a merc rides up beside me and starts berating the pump attendant for having the audacity to let an inferior vehicle fuel up before them. Never mind that I was halfway through filling up and buying a prepaid fuel card before they even lumbered into the fuel station.

            The entire time the entire population of the car (children, parents of children, grandparents of children all squished together in the car) were alternately staring death at me, then the attendant, and back and forth.

            I ended up taking my sweet ass time putting my helmet back on, closing the tank, locking the seat into place, putting my registration and certificates (required for motorcycles to buy gas in BJ) back into their compartment then wove through the dense traffic pack of the gas station and zipped away carefree as could be. Looking back this last action pissed them off even more, because they couldn’t navigate their big stupid luxury car into position and a little chinese built economy car popped into the now opened slot.

          • Cooljackal

            Nice…

            What makes me sad is when young Chinese kids with super expensive lambos and ferraris scrape the bottoms while going over speed bumps and generally don’t give a crap about their cars.

            I wouldn’t even do anything close to that with my mazda 3 let alone an expensive car. For car people like me, that is painful to see. If I ever got lucky enough to buy one of those in my lifetime, you’d be damn sure that I wouldn’t drive it in China!

          • Bo Xilai For Emperor

            So what if you guys can buy luxury german cars, still drive like shit…

          • Jennster

            just to clear things up, chinese like european cars. most are german brands, not luxury brands. 70% cars here are german or yank. the rest japanese, chinese, korean etc.

      • cc

        No. There just more expensive.

    • linette

      Those chinese are smashing up another person’s car…not their own car. They do it also out of jealousy. When they see other people rich they get jealous. Driving foreign car means you have some money inside China. 95% of the time in China, it’s either you are born rich or born poor. You can’t really change your status too much no matter how hard you work. Born rich means you are member of gov’t officials stealing money. Another rich are people who’s family live in big cities like shanghai and has properties already for many years. Still a small cases got rich through marriages. But the poor will never get rich by being entrepreneur. No such story like bill gate or mark zuckerberg even if you have the brain and hard work.

      • tai wai

        Another rich are people who’s family live in big cities like shanghai and has properties already for many years. Still a small cases got rich through marriages.

        Let me ask you, it might help change my opinion of HK culture a bit:

        Do HK women require a house (and car) before marriage? Because that is typical in the mainland.

        Now, of course, it is impossible for an average white collar guy to be able to afford a house before getting married. They’d need to save for twenty years on an average salary.

        So, the tacit understanding is “I will not marry you unless your family is wealthy enough to buy me a house.”

        Love? Pfft. You marry for money. It’s like the friggen dark ages.

        • tai wai

          *Addendum: My wife didn’t care. But the idea wasn’t far from the surface, either. “Chinese guys would do this…”

          • Young Man

            Oh, Christ yeah… tell me about it.

        • linette

          No, hong kong women most will still marry a man even if he doesn’t have a house. Hong kong is different than China. It’s a different gov’t system. Even if you are born poor(like me), you can still work hard to move up the ladder. You do good in school(free education for all hk citizens), then you can take out loans from banks to attend university for higher education. With college degree people tends to have higher income. If you are professional like doctors, lawyers, engineering..you can make very high income. HK pays very well to professionals. Business people can make a lot of money many work overseas. So in HK people who are born poor can get rich. The men who are born poor can get rich. The woman marry her man and they both can start a family together. They can take out a mortgage loan and buy property in hk.
          I don’t require my man to be rich or have a house. But he must be my equal in terms of education and occupation level. I don’t want to marry to a man who is a high school drop out. I think most women are like that.

          • tai wai

            Hm, well that’s refreshing.

            Do HK people typically value money as the most important goal?

          • linette

            yes, Hk people like any people in busy city. They love money also. But loving money don’t mean you are not aware of what’s morally right and wrong. I love having money but I will not go rob a bank or steal from my neighbor. If I see a man drop his iphone or $100 on the street, I will tell him so he won’t lose his property. I will want to live in a society like this. I love money.

          • tai wai

            But loving money don’t mean you are not aware of what’s morally right and wrong.

            The love of money is the root of all kinds of evil.

            Or, so they say.

          • linette

            I had done it before. I saw a man dropped his fat wallet (you can see cash sticking out…a sloppy wallet) and I called him to pick up. A guy forgot his camera in the stadium the expensive one with big lens..I called him to pick up. I found a iphone and I dialed the phone number and spoke with owner. He got his phone back. I picked up 2 other phones and gave them back. I saw at least 5 or 6 times people dropped their money and I called them to pick up.

            I am sure there are plenty people like me. They probably live in a different society than china.

            I still love money.

          • This Side Ground

            I don’t think it was love of money that is the root of all evil but rather money, period. However that could simply be an excuse to divert the blame away from ourselves. May be appropriate to say that people are the root of all evil, since we define what it is.

            I don’t think the guy in this article was beating up a stranger because of money. Seems to me he wanted the attention and be recognized by his countrymen; an act of misguided patriotism to please the disgruntled masses. In a country with so many people, it is understandable that some would like to take an opportunity to stand out, even it means using brutality.

            Morality is a thin line because it is up to each individual mind to weigh the pros and cons of each decision. It is the inner deliberation leading to an action that determines right and wrong in the rule of law. Often only the individual(s) involved know how it was that they reached their conclusion.

            The reason why the average person does not go robbing a bank or steal another person’s property is because they know the consequences of getting caught. If people were born model citizens there would be no need for the law.

            My question to Linette would be, if the person you hated the most in the world dropped their wallet, would you still call them to pick it up? Or, if you dropped a piece of garbage on a dirty street, would you still pick it up? Or, would you stop to pick up a complete stranger waiting at a bus stop in the dead of winter when you know there are no buses running?

            Yes is a possible answer, but then I’d have to show you a liar.

          • linette

            person you hated the most in the world dropped their wallet, would you still call them to pick it up? Or, if you dropped a piece of garbage on a dirty street, would you still pick it up? Or, would you stop to pick up a complete stranger waiting at a bus stop in the dead of winter when you know there are no buses running………..

            Yes, I will tell my asshole coworker to pick up her wallet when she dropped it, because it’s not mine to take. It’s wrong for me to take.

            Yes, I will not litter a plastic wrap on a dirty street. I will put it in my purse until I throw it in public bathroom trash bin. If I accidently dropped a small paper on a dirty street, I will pick it up,but if the wind blows it away..I don’t think I will chase after it.

            I won’t pick up any stranger at the bus stop even though there is no bus.

      • Jennster

        the ones born rich are called fu er dai. the ones stealing money are those found overseas in usa canada etc, not in china, and i wouldnt call stealing money from corruption rich anyhow. the rich people here are entrepreneurs. im sure you’ve seen the rich list out recently with china now talking up 17%. they are not all from shanghai. LOL

  • Cleo

    Something doesn’t work about the dollar amount of the damages claimed by the Japanese company:

    http://www.asiaone.com/News/AsiaOne%2BNews/Asia/Story/A1Story20120927-374156.html

    Let’s just say I wouldn’t sell fire insurance to any Japanese businesses.

    • Jennster

      in china, if somebody smashes his/her own japanese branded car, they get one (non japanese brand) free as insurance from that entrepreneur guy who sells air (4got his name). that is why the chinese would dare to smsh their own cars. LOL

  • Fraser

    I live in Xi’An and I witnessed a lot of similar scenes. I don’t think I saw anyone getting beaten up, but I definitely saw a few people’s cars getting smashed up. What I find truly disturbing is how badly brainwashed Chinese people are. If you’ve read 1984, then you’ll know about the 2 minutes of hate everyone has to go through every week. This is exactly the same.

    Thankfully there is a fairly severe economic collapse on the horizon for China. Recently a steal factory had to close because of lowering demand. Let’s hope that the CCP loses power, for good and we get a real government in China. Of course there are people like my ex wife who claim that “Mao never killed anyone”. But I’m sure brainwashing can be cured eventually.

    • LeBateauPolice

      Cockgobbler

      • http://www.bestvpninchina.com Rod

        I believe the term is “Nut Gobbler”.

    • markx

      Fraser would obviously be the only rational commentator in this particular little conversation (other than myself of course).

    • Alejandro

      tell her the uncle Mao killed at least 40 million chinese! ;-)

    • Gontraf

      The minute of hate is exactly what springs to mind.

      As much as I want to see the CCP gone, they’re unlikely to go without a bang, the brunt of which will be felt by the people of this country. I can’t say that I am looking forward to that, the loyalty of the army is probably high considering how well they have it under the current regime. I wouldn’t be too thankful for any kind of economic collapse in this country either, once again those who will be left to die in the ditch are not the sort of people who can afford taking time off-work to go and protest against the Japanese.

      And how could you marry her ?

      • Nick in Beijing

        I agree with the idea that one shouldn’t be thankful for economic collapse of any country. It is always the poor and disenfranchised who suffer the worst.

        That being said though, in a country like China which has had so many opportunities handed to her on a silver platter (preferential treatment in foreign policy by many of the world’s countries, preferential treatment by western businesses, unrestricted military build up despite obviously aggressive intentions come to mind immediately when thinking about opportunities). Despite these opportunities they have managed to shoot themselves in the foot.

        They had the chance to take the helm of the world and be the impetus for a new model of world governance, but of course it wasn’t in the interest of a few people so they let it go south.

        People were given the choice between getting rich quick, or having the ability to push for greater social and political change. They chose get rich quick, but had they thought about what they were doing they would have seen that social and political change would have also brought about great wealth and in a more sustainable way.

        At this point in Chinese history anything bad that befalls China will be entirely the fault of the Chinese for their arrogance and shortsightedness.

        I wish the best for China. This is the country I have chosen for my home, even if not a permanent home. If Chinese society were to develop, and the government institute policies more conducive to immigration then I might actually consider more long term residence here. This place is likely where I will have and at least begin to raise kids (although I would take them West for the bulk of their education). All things considered I have many reasons to want to see China prosper.

        It won’t happen though. China will develop a closed environment where everyone can pat each other on the back about how great China is and how bad the outside world is. Society will spiral in on itself, and the government will experience huge crises. Stability in China is only a myth, as history has shown us. Sooner or later the mask will be torn from the real face of China, and when the average Chinese people confront this face en masse they will panic, as people are wont to do.

        Bleh

        • Gontraf

          I agree with your conclusion, but when you write that people were given the choice between get rich quick or push for social and political change, I really have to disagree.

          The Chinese people have not had their say in social or political change in a long time, if ever. Last time they tried was in 89 and we all know how that went. I mean even the end of the cultural revolution had nothing to do with the people’s will, and it’s hard to think of social change on such scale without resorting to examples of just plain revolution in other countries. People weren’t so much given the choice as they were told to get rich quick, and not to worry too much about politics and society, that’s Party’s business.

          And to be fair, it’s not like the Party had lots of options either. I mean how do you rise through the ranks with clean hands and a pure heart if all those above are power addicted old farts with both hands in the cookie jar? You just don’t, and the only one who do are those with a healthy taste for cookies, those who are deemed worthy successors by the aforementioned old farts. Any of those suddenly taken with a change of heart will be swiftly put aside by the rest of them (Hu Yaobang), so it’s a bit of a self sustained rotten system.

          Anything bad that befalls China will definitely be the responsibility of the CCP, and yes to some extent of the Chinese people, but I wouldn’t blame them too hard because I cannot sincerely say that I would have acted otherwise under the same circumstances (put my family at risk).

  • GodsHammer

    All the cars that are being smashed and burnt are owned by Chinese, made by Chinese in Chinese joint venture factories. They are Japanese in design only. Who do the Chinese hate the most? Japanese…and then Americans… the same 2 countries that have injected by far the most raw funding, knowledge and joint venture investment into China…the 2 countries that suffered the most from outsourcing to China and the 2 that continue to try and treat China like a progressive member of the Pacific community.
    Guess what assholes… this kind of behavior will be your end. When Mitsubishi, Toyota, Panasonic etc all move out of China and are followed by the American companies shortly after (next logical scapegoats), will your economy be in better shape than before or not? When your students can no longer go learn or work in Japanese or American labs… will you really make and innovate new technology? Highly unlikely. Not even 10 whole years into real prosperity and the masses are already forgetting who their real friends are.
    Here’s a hint… your real friends don’t always agree with you. They will tell you when you are being a whiner or when you are being greedy. They’ll partner with you and share ideas and time with you as well as help you when you’re down.
    Japan and America have both given a LOT of technological knowledge and industrial savvy to the Chinese. Many join ventures and millions of jobs. Left to themselves the CCP would have failed miserably.

    • Fraser

      Yeah, the Japanese and Americans did that, but they were blinded by the money prospects. The other thing is, the Chinese stole lots of good ideas from the Japanese and Americans. The Chinese are very good at copying stuff, horrible at actually thinking on their own.

      I had a student write me a project over the summer. I told him I need to see him at least once a week so I could keep up to date with his progress. He refused, so I just let it be. He handed in his project, and his entire introduction (about 8/10 pages he wrote) was copied directly from my PhD thesis.

      It’s ridiculous how much Chinese people copy stuff. I haven’t encountered a single student since I’ve been here (and I’ve met close to 100) who doesn’t copy things. I really don’t understand why they have that mentality.

      • Kukuku

        If your goal were to obtain high marks and that everything else was irrelevant, cheating wouldn’t be a problem to you as long as you don’t get caught (don’t forget about !!!!FACE!!!!).

        • Fraser

          Not getting caught? Ok, let give you an example, I gave them all homework to do, to be handed in on a particular date. Being a helpful teacher, I gave them all sample solutions to the problems on the day they were supposed to hand their work in.

          Rather than listen to me lecturing them, they simply copied my sample solutions word for word, then handed that back in. Like you think I wouldn’t notice it?

          • Kukuku

            Their Chinese teachers don’t pay attention. Why should they expect you to? During their entire life their teachers won’t care so the fact that YOU do is not something they can comprehend.

            My students both love and hate me. They love me because we work on projects and they hate me because I don’t give them clear targets to satisfy me and keep telling them they need to do better. They stopped asking me what I want this year, which is refreshing.

          • Fraser

            Truly a great testament to the awesome Chinese education system, brought about by 5000 years of history.

          • Kukuku

            Wait for it…

            Any moment now…

            XD

          • RuffledFeathers

            Same thing happens to me all the time. They weren’t taught how to think, and are therefore incapable of it, so copying is all they know.

          • Capt. WED

            Hey Fraser the other day you posted how you were paranoid about the CCP bugging YOUR store bought macbook, I was busy so I didn’t reply there… hmm if you are so paranoid why don’t you encrypt all your stuff? Which is more common sense-y? The CCP taking over your O.S, or sitting and grabbing all your traffic?

            LOL.

          • Capt. WED

            Butttttt many things are counter-intuitive! Amirite?

      • http://www.bestvpninchina.com Rod

        copying stuff is hard to get around. I’m sure you know, because you’re a teacher, but how the hell do you make an example or analogy of ANYTHING without asking for copies.

        As a teacher, I see two possibilities. 1. Give an example and have everyone copy it. 2. Give no example and have no one know what they’re doing.

        • Fraser

          I teach university level mathematics. We ask people to prove things, and solve problems. Sometimes it can be difficult to tell if work has been simply copied, but the students have to demonstrate that they’ve understood the work required of them, i.e. write their proofs in their own words.

          With research stuff it’s much easier to tell. That requires originality, and also solving a problem where nobody knows the answer. So copying an introduction from my thesis word for word will earn you exactly 0 points.

          I didn’t give my students my PhD thesis so they could just copy it and give it back to me. I gave it to them as a resource for information, and also an example of the style of writing required.

    • tai wai

      China has always tended to bite the hand that feeds her.

      From isolation to revolution to (terribly) governing policy, they keep thinking they are somehow able to be self-sufficient, that they are their own masters. Yet history shows that they only succeed when they are being fed by “outsiders.”

      Pride is a funny thing.

  • Chris

    Jennster your mouth and opinions are obnoxious You shouldn’t criticize anyone’s English writing abilities.

    • Jennster

      who are you?

      • Winter B4 Spring

        He is Chris. you know, Chris! Aiyah…

      • Getrealson

        He is the “un-silent majority!”

      • The Enlightened One

        lol Jennster are you Chinese? Cause they do this a lot when they don’t know how to respond to an insult… they say.. “Who are you?”

        You could be wearing a name tag while a herald is bellowing your life story in front of them but they will still say “Who are you?” when you disagree or criticize them in some way.

        • Jennster

          i don’t know what this guy is on about. it was really random.

          • tai wai

            what this guy is on about

            That’s an English colloquialism.

            Are you British? Aussie?

          • moop

            chinese who lives in australia

  • Carlito Johnny Briganti

    brilliant, another proud moment in chinese history. this place is insane. it will take a few decades and some education before insanity is irradicated.

    God bless china and the decent chinese people who also have to live amongst these idiots in society. The funny thing is what disappoints us foreigners, also disappoints the good chinese. they are also disgusted by some of the issues that arise here.

    I’m not sure if chairman mao’s red army mentality is still in affect, and affecting some individuals in society. We need to remind these fools in society that his ideas and actions may have met some of the needs in the 50′s/60′s but in the 21st century, come on get a grip, you imbeciles.

    For fuck sake, your insulting your society. Pathetic individuals. I really hope he rots in hell. Also where were other locals, who should have got involved. Oh silly me, it wasnt a foreigner. it was chinese on chinese, it doesnt matter. ah well.

    Pricks

    • Jennster

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYgvkidOHbw&feature=relmfu

      my mum <3s mao. everyone's different.

    • Getrealson

      Mao was a CUNT! pure and simple. A scumbag who bent an entire nation to his sick will whether they liked it or not. Mao was a coward and a liar. Every time I go into a government officials office there is a statue of the fool on their desk. I always wondered if they knew that if he was alive today, he would probably have them dragged outside and shot.

      Chinese adore this turd and you wonder why most of the country is morally bankrupt? Their hero was frightening villagers and hiding in the mountains when the nips came but then his cronies re-wrote history to say otherwise.

      School children know that communism leads to an unfair society. Read “animal farm” by George Orwell. It’s like communism for dummies.

      Mao either knew the end result and condoned it or was too stupid to see it.

      The chinese made their bed now let them “lie” in it!

      • Jennster

        lol nips

        well she lived through the times and she liked the past better (can open door and sleep, no thieves etc). it was after 1979 that chinese became weird due to capitalism.

        • moop

          liar. everyone was so poor that no one had anything to steal. one courtyard might just have one cooking pot unless of course it was melted for iron scraps.

      • Jennster

        regarding communism, there are bad aspects. but i gotta thank them for giving out free apartments/property per chinese citizen after 1949 as allocation and distribution. that’s why the average chinese in my city has 2-3 apartments per person. hahahahaahah

        • Kukuku

          Yes, that obviously makes up for the 40 million deaths.

          /rolls eyes

          • RuffledFeathers

            Nearer 60 million

          • Kukuku

            We’re jut arguing numbers here. Big is big.

        • linette

          My family owns 3 properties too. But we bought them with our own hard earned money from working. They weren’t given to us from the gov’t. The gov’t my family live under never gives out property to the rich taken from the poor people’s blood. I am so glad I was raised under this kind of gov’t. lol… ;)

          • Jennster

            same. i was talking about investment and taking advantage of the property market and chinese economic growth. but i’m sure the wenzhounese are better at that. :)

      • White Guy in USA

        I watched the Documentary “China: A Century of Revolution [1949-1976] Part 2″ At 00:40:10 in the video they talk about making steel. They gathered up all their useful tools and melted them down in homemade furnaces to make steal so as to catch up with the West in steel production. That just shows you the tip of the iceberg of the lunacy of Communism and Mao.

        • Jennster

          but the lack of morals was due to capitalism. during pre 1979 times they just suck at economics hence famines etc.

          • fredf

            Mao raped, murdered, lied to, tortured, abused, and stole from the Chinese people.
            Where are the morals in that ?

            You are Chinese, but you obviously do not know your own Chinese history.

          • Fraser

            fredf – don’t even bother. Chinese people have been very badly brainwashed into believing that Mao was a “great man” and “built the new China”. Before Mao everything sucked, then he built the new China and made everything good. Sure later in life he went a bit mad and did a few bad things, but that’s understandable after all he did for this great and proud nation right?

            Mao was a reprehensible human being. He, like Hitler, took advantage of the situation presented to him at the time. China had just come out of WW2, the KMT had worn out their troops fighting the Japanese, and China was in a very poor state. The people were looking for extreme answers to extreme problems.

            I honest to god have no idea why the West opened up to China, politically and economically. After 1989 we should have put a full trade embargo on China and forced a collapse of the CCP then re-instated the ROC in it’s place.

          • Gontraf

            Lack of morals today is nothing compared to what Mao did to morals during the cultural revolution.

            Get an education for Pete’s sake…

          • Congratulations! You don’t know jack-fucking-shit about Chinese history!

          • Jennster

            lmao. plenty hate him and plenty like him. everyone’s different. don’t force your perceptions onto others. i am pretty sure you foreigners know nothing of chinese history. the only thing you know is what lies on the surface. it is no wonder chinese people say ‘foreigners don’t understand china’ because that is simply FACT.

        • tai wai

          I asked my wife about the cook pot thing. That’s not the whole story, or perhaps not the real one. According to her grandmother, they melted down their cooking pots simply because THEY WEREN’T ALLOWED TO COOK.

          Food was strictly rationed, only to be cooked, and eaten, communally.

          I’m thinking now that the “make iron from your cook pots to beat the West!” perhaps was just propaganda to get the people to go along.

          That, coupled with the fact that everywhere Mao went, the local leaders made the piss-ants pave the roads and build new houses (to make believe that everything was going smoothly, so as to not be punished) led to this idea that he was so far removed from the reality that he thought you could make steel in a backyard furnace.

          Who knows, though. Maybe he was.

  • Chris

    Jennster you are a racist. Your comments belong in the sewer.

    • Jennster

      elaborate

      • Winter B4 Spring

        …on the sewer… :P …urgh…

      • Boris

        Elaborate? To a simpleton like yourself, perhaps. Everyone one else got his meaning.

  • MrT

    On the national news to day they posted mugshots of every one that went around smashing sht up, quite a few turned them self’s in all ready rather then wait for the knock at the door…

  • http://www.bestvpninchina.com Rod

    It’s refreshing to see intelligent comments from Chinese netizens. It makes me think that there is hope for this country and the people. It reminds me that every country, no matter what the nation, is made up of different kinds of people.

    • Carlito Johnny Briganti

      i agree there are a good chinese people who wouldn’t harm a fly (exaggeration),. but there arent many left. Save your great nation from disaster. Enforce stronger laws. Fight for a better nation and fight for a civilised society.

      It’s quite sad to see what life in china is like. it really isnt something to be proud of. I was disgusted with the English society, but to honest that involved a small group of idiots. In china the nation as a whole keep slipping up. I’m not sure where peoples morals lie.

      A chinese friend of mine said, that taiwan is real china as they retained chinese culture and the teachings of morality. get a grip idiots.

      Im not here to slag china, but I really hope the good ones in the nation can see this and do something about it, for there GREAT nation.

      • markus

        In regards to Taiwan, all foreigners who have been to Chian know this whether they want to admit it or not is another issue but we all know it

        -now my opinion-

        China likes to show tv shows about how good the cpp is and even more so during ww2 however it was taiwan who did a lot of the fighting while mao just waited until they were weak and after the war attacked them (ok it wasnt quite that simple i know but in basics that pretty much what happend)

        then mao and the ccp took all the credit for everything that happend and changed the history facts which is funny beacsue China is angry at Japan due to them not showing the true history (shocking)

        =
        i forgot what i was saying now as im drunk but i think you get the idea.. i was trying to think of a word after shocking but i cant think right now)
        the meaning of the word i was thinking of is when you say someone shouldnt do something yet you do it your self… [anyone?]

        ill come back in the morning/afternoon with a fresh head and correct this post

        • Tony

          In World War II, Taiwan was a Japanese colony. The ROC is who I assume you mean.

      • tai wai

        i agree there are a good chinese people who wouldn’t harm a fly (exaggeration),.

        Cool Story Bro: I remember the first time I visited here, we were in Hangzhou. I had just finished eating, and had stepped out for a cigarette (not yet accustomed to the idea of smoking at the table while others eat).

        Outside the restaurant was a little white field mouse. “Ah, that’s cute,” I thought.

        The shop owner came out fo smoke, too (perhaps wondering why I had done such a strange thing.” He saw me looking at the little mouse, and his face went ashen. The promptly ran over, cornered the mouse, and stomped the life out of it.

        Then he looked at me with such pride. I reluctantly gave him a thumbs up.

        “Good job! You are a horrible person, for all the right reasons!”

        • MrT

          he was happy because of the extra meat for the next dish…

          • tai wai

            In to the wine jug you go!

            *plop*

        • Northerner

          I had a similar experience the first time I went to Sanya, (about 2004).

          I was walking on the beach early evening and some fishermen had pulled in their net (boat not far from shore at one end, person walking up the beach holding the other end sort of set up).

          They were sorting out the catch. Edibles thrown in one pile. Inedibles thrown in the other. The inedible pile was only a few fish, one of which was a really beautiful Puffer Fish, it hadn’t inflated itself and was just lying there gasping.

          One of the fishermen saw me looking at the Puffer Fish quite closely — I was in two minds whether to pick it up and put it back in the sea, when he came over to me so I assumed they had some use for it. He looked at me and smiled a sort of ‘what’s so interesting about that?’ smile then put his foot on it and stepped down until its insides came out of its mouth.

          To this day I can remember the vacant yet slightly self-satisfied look he had while he was doing it yet I have never fathomed whether he thought he was doing something useful like saving me from some sort of danger or whether it was just the equivalent of a 6 year old’s mind at work whilst pulling the legs off a spider.

          7 years of living in China has convinced me it was the later.

          • tai wai

            To this day I can remember the vacant yet slightly self-satisfied look he had while he was doing it yet

            Yes, that. Exactly that.

        • mr. wiener

          I was walking around in Dali feeling pleasantly stoned [dope use to grow wild there] when I say a large crowd gathered. Investigating the cause I saw a young man had a rat in a cage and was busy torturing it to death with a sharpened piece of wire. The crowd were applauding every squeek and shrill scream he could elicit.
          Nothing good on TV that night I guess.

          • Northerner

            Christ Dali is so far away from anywhere they may have mistaken the rat for a Japanese. Just as the good citizens of Hartlepool mistook a ship’s monkey for a Frenchman during the Napoleonic Wars.

            Never, ever ask someone from Hartlepool ‘who hanged the monkey?’

          • mr. wiener

            Heard that story, it’s a good one.

      • RuffledFeathers

        agree there are a good chinese people who wouldn’t harm a fly

        Too few and far between

        • tai wai

          Would you say that the MAJORITY of Chinese people are not good?

          If so, isn’t that akin to saying that the SOCIETY isn’t good?

          • Kukuku

            I dunno about the others here, but I’d gladly say that the vast majority of Chinese people are no good. Been here for two years so far, had many Chinese “friends” (but only a single true one) and been hit by cars 4 times so far walking/cycling.

            I’ll be staying here as long as it is profitable for me to do so then I’ll move on.

          • RuffledFeathers

            Yes. What’s your point?

  • Carlos

    Damn and I’m going to buy a Scion FRS
    try doing that in my town
    9mm will surely be in the glove box

  • markus

    at least most (not all) but most agree that this is stupid..

    some know its stupid but for the wrong reasons however some people understand

    id like to re quote these

    Those who are on the wanted list are censored on all the major websites, what the fuck~~~
    [Note: the police have issued an wanted list of those who have badly harmed people’s lives and possessions during the anti-Japan demonstrations.]

    Good thing I watched this video this morning! Why was it deleted [censored]? Why are all the major websites not allowed to upload/post it? Could it be the doings of *** [the Communist Party]? I don’t understand the actions of all the major websites. For that kind of beast, scum, and bastard to actually be protected, China is too dark/corrupt. Is our Party seeking its own doom? It’s quickly losing popular support!

    i agree with them, if they are wanted why are the names censored???..
    maybe the government secrently wants this to happen (or maybe its not so secret…)
    either way we all know who is truely to blame and its a shame to say it…
    things have gotten better over time but even tho the change is really fast its not fast enough.. give power to the younger people stop letting old farts be in power and that will create a more open minded country… or we can just wait for the old mao generation and those after to (sorry to say) die and let the new generation deal with china in a worldy manner…

    i doubt (and this is with regret) but i sadly doubt this change will happen in my life time..

    • tai wai

      i agree with them, if they are wanted why are the names censored???..

      Because of human flesh searches.

  • vince

    So noone in the crowd thought to subdue this man while calling the cops? That poor fellow who got hurt, a life ruined due to one fuckwits jealousy and misplaced hate. Hopefully he is able to recover completely and the perpetrator is found out and given a harsh punishment.

    • Brett Hunan

      vince- He’s getting flesh searched now. Very good use of the 人肉搜索 if you ask me. They should find him within a day or two.

      • simon

        how exactly does this human flesh search work? i’ve always been quite fascinated by this process, they look through pictures of social sites such as renren/weibo or something?

        • Brett Hunan

          I don’t know the full process, but I guess people from all around China contact others and search networking sites, blogs, and forums to find the identity of the perp. They already know his location (Xi’an), now it comes to filing down his name, address, family’s names… The netizens have become pretty efficient at it.

          Fauna, or some others here could probably explain better than myself.

        • http://www.chinasmack.com Fauna

          It is nothing special. It is just people working together to find information about a person or thing and sharing it with each other. The same thing happens everywhere. It is just that the Chinese term sounds funny or scary in English but don’t be misled by the name, it is just the opposite of a computer search where people do the work instead of computer.

          • tai wai

            Huh. The intent usually seems to be to “punish” the person they are looking for.

            A perfectly normal, everyday Chinese tool of mob justice. No big deal.

          • http://www.chinasmack.com/ Fauna

            “Human flesh search” can be used for that purpose and that is the most famous but on the Chinese internet, it is not the only situation where it is used. It is not only for mob justice or vigilantism.

          • Brett Hunan

            I don’t think Fauna implied that the intent was “nothing special”, but rather the process. Like old school police work on mass scale.

      • vince

        That’s good but it’s rather bewildering that they let him get away in the first place, it looked like assault with a deadly weapon (can a brick be considered a deadly weapon btw?) and while the protesters doled out unwarranted suffering on normal folk they decided to let a would be murdered get away? Just goes to show their hypocrisy make a noise about protecting a bunch of shitty rocks and not being to protect their own countrymen, laughable.

      • tai wai

        Mob justice is a kind of justice.

  • The Enlightened One

    This probably happened hundreds of times it is just that this one got out on the internet for a bit. Poor guy… people like this are fucking animals.

    I suggest people that own Japanese cars take the bus or subway until this blows over.

    • Brett Hunan

      I suggest that these Japanese car owners don’t stop for anything. Follow these rules and you won’t have to worry about getting hit with a blunt object.
      Disclaimer (I tried to keep this as tasteful as worldly possible. Not all links are from chinaSMACK or about Chinese people.)

      Don’t stop when you are drunk and approaching a red light.
      Don’t stop even if there is a crazy woman lying in front of your car.
      Don’t stop for a group of byciclists.
      Don’t stop even if you are towing a woman on the back of your Porsche.
      Don’t EVER stop for a pedestrian in a crosswalk.
      Don’t worry about buildings (graphic) or bodies of water.
      Finally, never in a million years do you stop for an angry mob.

      • vince

        Sounds like GTA to me without the stealing of the car heh :)

        • Brett Hunan

          I wanted to put a GTA clip but couldn’t find a good one. I also left out roadspikes, roadblocks, and as ace of books mention, the name of love.

      • the ace of books

        …but do you stop in the name of love?

        • Brett Hunan

          Omg I wish I had thought of that! Nice one.

  • Chris

    You are a typical Chinese loser. Sorry to point that out.

  • Greg

    I wonder how many people involved in that own japanese cars themselves? The government shamelessly started these riots deliberatetly knowng full well what would happen. Instead of using its people as political pawns why don’t they show some balls and actually do somethingto claim ownership of the Islands instead of these typicalchinese back door tactics where the government can deny responsibility.

    • markus

      They cant do anything else because deep down the government knows that it doest belong to them.

      if china truly thought it was China’s they wouldnt act like this… they would simply go and re claim it.

  • Cleo
  • Odom

    you know, the more I think about it, the more this reminds me of the cultural revolution…or the beginnings to it.

  • Xianlives

    After reading this story my girlfriend and I went to KFC and bought a bucket of chicken. Fun times… inspired by another’s grief, pure inspiration!

  • Xianlives

    This country is going to hell, and every citizen is too cowardly or scared to stand up to the GOV. They would rather fight each other. As a foreigner, I feel sorry for you lot. My country is so much more developed. You guys are still in the old dynasties. Reading stories on this website makes me laugh and cry. I’ve been in this country for a long time and I still think you guys are a pack of zoo animals. And you wonder why the rest of the world doesn’t take you or your crazy country seriously. If you want respect, stand up for yourselves and fight the GOV. Fight for your rights. Fight for your children and your wives or gf’s. Just stop fighting each other, arguing and bickering, what does that do? Stop thinking you are weak, you’re not. Be proud! Be courageous. Be daring. Just be…. and the hole world will get behind you. Silly people! Will you ever learn? Will you ever change? I’m not your enemy. The enemy is amongst you. You are your own worst enemy, so accept it and start making the change that needs to happen. Sacrifice in the face of fear will give you rewards in this life or the next. Care about each other. One person can make a difference.

    • Boris

      What a pile of self-righteous, rancid toss. Fuck off!

    • Gontraf

      Hahaha ! And here I was thinking maybe I was losing it, getting all full of myself and borderline racist. Cheers mate, I feel a lot better :D

  • Xianlives

    This country is going to hell, and every citizen is too cowardly or scared to stand up to the GOV. They would rather fight each other. As a foreigner, I feel sorry for you lot. My country is so much more developed. You guys are still in the old dynasties. Reading stories on this website makes me laugh and cry. I’ve been in this country for a long time and I still think you guys are a pack of zoo animals. And you wonder why the rest of the world doesn’t take you or your crazy country seriously. If you want respect, stand up for yourselves and fight the GOV. Fight for your rights. Fight for your children and your wives or gf’s. Just stop fighting each other, arguing and bickering, what does that do? Stop thinking you are weak, you’re not. Be proud! Be courageous. Be daring. Just be…. and the whole world will get behind you. Silly people! Will you ever learn? Will you ever change? I’m not your enemy. The enemy is amongst you. You are your own worst enemy, so accept it and start making the change that needs to happen. Sacrifice in the face of fear will give you rewards in this life or the next. Care about each other. One person can make a difference.

    • Boris

      Thou, whose shit doth not stinketh. Doubtless a paragon of virtue.

      • Kukuku

        Boring Boris strikes back!

        • Boris

          So you agree with his sentiments?

          • Kukuku

            Why wouldn’t I?

          • Boris

            You want me to waste my time refuting that garbage?

  • s.pockets

    Talk about misplaced rage!

  • Bill Stack

    that car was made in China

  • beiji

    Many Japs here said Chinese’s EGO is getting too big, FYI, nobody has bigger EGO than the U.S. Try stand up to the U.S to prove that the Japs dont suck-it-up to the U.S, when the US navy come to satisfy their libido’s urge in Okinawa all the Japs can only moan in anger moreoever the U.S the one who NUKE you. Perhaps you Japs are barking at the wrong tree.

    • tai wai

      They’re pretty much required, by the terms of their surrender, to suck up to the US.

      • JT

        Or — GASP — is it possible that they realize the error in their imperialistic ways and are content to help the US maintain the status quo, as far as international territories and borders are concerned?

        If your government is open, the people and the media free, and the market fair — Western democracies will be your best friend. It could work for China, too, you know. However, it seems you all prefer authoritarian governments, fewer freedoms for the people, and no freedom for the press. If that’s what you like then, sure, be friends with North Korea and Russia… We’ll take Japan, South Korea and Taiwan over NK and Russia any day!

        • JT

          And by “take” I mean “accept as friends” …not actually take. In before someone cries “American Imperialism”!!! :P

    • moop

      step one: buy some gasoline

      step two: buy some matches

      step three: pour gasoline all over yourself

      step four: immolate yourself

      • tai wai

        Step five: Tiki party!

  • bert

    Not enough guns in China.

  • bert

    We all know there is almost no law enforcement in China, at least for the sake of the society. It is truly every man for himself here. Chinese commit murder everyday with almost no threat of punishment.

  • Mop

    It’s all just an excuse to turn cars over and break stuff.

  • karlnotfromgreece

    what is meant with 毛毒? Can’t find anything on the internet..

    • JT

      Are you looking on the Chinese internet? lol.

  • http://www.kalanstar.com KopyKatKiller

    Chinese Civilization: So uncivil!

  • 平凡人

    I don’t see why they should hit fellow country man’s car, the boycott should start now but for those who have bought earlier, why should these people be punished? The fact remains that Japanese cars are economical; many people around the world would agree. Moreover, all Japanese brand makers in China, China counterpart is the major share holder in the entity. Well, how about smashing all Japanese made cameras? Almost all reporters will be affected.

  • JT

    This is so uncivilized and counterproductive to their hateful, government-willed cause. First, let’s pause to realize that these damaged products and cars will be repaired — with Japanese parts. That’s what I mean by counterproductive.

    As for the government-willed part, it’s commonly known that governments stir up trouble abroad to increase their support at home — this is especially true with authoritarian regimes like the Communist Party in China and the North Korean government, too. The Chinese people are SO easily manipulated by the government.

    Finally, this is just uncivilized behavior. Assuming you consent to the government’s manipulation, you believe their exaggerations (about Japan’s crimes*), and you want to boycott Japanese goods, then you should go about it in a smart, rational and civilized manner. That’s the only way such an effort could even dream of being effective.

    *As for this, I am not suggesting that Japan has not committed some gross, unjust acts against China and other countries, too. However, it’s a commonly known fact outside of China that the Chinese government exaggerates Japan’s crimes to fuel the Chinese hatred of Japan — this is a way for the Chinese government to control and manipulate the people.

    Finally, I will say that *most nations* are guilty of some horrendous crimes in their pasts. Many of the USA’s crimes are well documented (killing the native people, slavery, various wars including with Vietnam, etc). European countries have many crimes from the days of colonialism and slavery, too. China, however, is not exempt from the list of countries guilty of gross, horrendous crimes. Many of China’s crimes have come against it’s own people — Cultural Revolution, T-Square Massacre, etc.

    When one considers the number of Chinese that perished due to starvation, a direct result of Mao’s communist policies (the disastrous communal farms, etc.), it becomes crystal clear that the revered Chairman Mao himself is responsible for the death of more Chinese than even the Communist Party’s exaggerations accuse Japan of slaughtering.

    For clarity, I’ll repeat, Mao is responsible for the deaths of more Chinese than the hated Japanese. Be realistic about Mao, take his picture off of every RMB, tell the truth of Mao in the children’s Chinese history textbooks and THEN — and only then — complain about the wrongs do to your ancestors.

    • JT

      *done to your ancestors (last sentence)

  • “5000 Years of Civilization!”

    • JT

      “ANCIENT HISTORY!” — that’s my line! :P

  • blah

    Glad to see we finally have some reporting on it here, and the vast majority of the chinese comments are pretty good and interesting….

  • moop

    looked at the pictures again… why did this guy decide to take off his shirt?

    i mean, its not like he’s standing in a circle with other dudes who also have their bellies exposed talking about housing prices and how much shit costs

  • Not Buying US/Jap Cars

    Well, this sure looks scary. I do not care whether the crowd is rationale a lot (as if things are rationale here)….I just want to ensure my own safety. Never will I buy a Japanese cars while I am in China.

    Come to think of it, I will avoid USA car too. You never know when a conflict breaks up and USA enter into the fray with its Pacific Fleet!

    If you want safety, avoid Jap cars in China. If you think long term, avoid Jap and USA cars in China!!!

    • DUXESTLUX

      why not avoiding damn China?!!!

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