Jobless and Homeless 4 Years After University Graduation

Liu Ning being interviewed by the Chengdu Business Daily journalist.


From QQ:

Gaokao Sciences Top Scorer and University of Science and Technology of China Graduate Hasn’t Found a Job After Four Years, Drifts Homeless on the Streets

Father searches for son

After searching over a dozen internet cafés, 55-year-old Liu Guohua finally found his son Liu Ning engrossed in playing computer games at an internet café on Tongjin Road.

25-year-old Liu Ning’s hair was messy, his face pale, as he devoted his entire attention to the computer screen. Liu Guohua stood behind him, hesitating for a second before patting him on his shoulder. The latter turned his head around, startled as he beheld his noticeably upset father.

Eight years ago, Liu Ning became the top sciences scorer [in the Gaokao college entrance exam] of a certain county in Liangshan with a near 650 score, testing into the University of Science and Technology of China. Four years ago, Liu Ning graduated from college yet was unable to find an ideal job. He started to lose himself in the internet, wandering everywhere.

>On the 6th day of the new lunar year, a kind-hearted person noticed that a young “homeless person” has already spent three consecutive nights sleeping on a bench in the Jiulidi campus of Southwest Jiaotong University. He helped contact the “homeless person’s” family and the next day, Liu Guohua rushed over from his hometown, but his son had once again disappeared…

The call before he disappeared, “you embarrass the entire county”

After his son disappeared, what Liu Guohua regretted the most was the last phone call. “I shouldn’t have been so harsh.”

On the night of February 4th, Liu Ning found a public payphone to call home. Ever since he lost his mobile phone in November of last year, he hasn’t had a set method of contact. In the call, he first asked his family how things have been, if they had a good [Chinese] new year, before saying he has been i the Southwest Jiaotong University area for several days now.

“At the time, I thought he was asking his family for money again,” Liu Guohua recalled. Ever since Liu Ning graduated in 2010, most of the time he hasn’t had work, with all of his living expenses being provided for by his family. In contrast, before going to university, his son was the top scorer in the sciences of the county, who had been admitted into a famous university on account of his outstanding academics. The huge difference between the years of accumulated honors and the failure after graduating from college made Liu Guohua lose his temper. This phone call lasted for over 40 minutes. IN the call, Liu Guohua said some harsh words to his son, “I say, you’re simply an embarrassment to the family, an embarrassment to the entire county. Before college, you were well-regarded in the entire county seat, but now when others ask about you, I don’t even dare say.”

Afterward, Liu Guohua also said: “It would be very easy for me to deal with you. I just won’t pick up any of your calls, and just block all calls with a Chengdu area code.” Liu Ning’s mother also answered the phone, “simultaneously cried and scolded our son, ‘hating iron for not becoming steel’ [expressing disappointing in failed expectations].”

Their son hung up. The next day, an old man called Liu Guohua’s mobile phone: “Your son is on a bench in the school, and has already slept there for three days now, in such cold weather…”

The silent meeting in the internet cafe, startled as he beheld his father

When he first answered the phone, Liu Guohua even wondered if this was another way his son was asking for money from his family, but he very quickly dismissed it. On February 6th, the seventh day of the new lunar year, he immediately set out to Chengdu first thing in the morning, but he son had once again disappeared. Every day, Liu Guohua went to the internet cafes near the campus searching, showing the owners of the internet cafes photos to see if they recognized his son, but everyone only shook their heads.

February 7th, he deposited 300 yuan in his son’s bank account and on the third day, he noticed that the balance on the account was less 100 yuan, putting him at ease. “This meant he was still safe [alive], had withdrew money.” After investigating where his son had withdrawn money from, Liu Guohua went there and waited half the day [to see if he could run into his son], without success.

After 5 days of searching, Liu Guohua finally saw his son. Yesterday, when Liu Guohua walked into an internet cafe on Tongjin Road, Liu Ning was engrossed in playing an online game. Liu Guohua stood behind him, hesitated for a second, getting control of his emotions. Then, he lightly patted his son’s shoulder with his hand, and said: “Let’s get out of here.”

A Liu Ning with messy hair and an oily face turned around, startled as he looked at his father behind him. Then, without a word, he turned off the computer, picked up his backpack, and walked out the internet cafe’s doors. The boss of the internet cafe says Liu Ning had been coming to the internet cafe regularly the past few days to go online. The internet fee card still had over 40 yuan in credit.

On the road back to a small hotel, the father and son pair were silent. After a long time, Liu Guohua finally spoke: “Have you had lunch?” “Yeah,” Liu Ning answered softly.


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At 6pm, a Liu Ning that had just come out of the internet cafe and his father were sitting on a hotel bed together. He was wearing a dark coat and a pair of jeans covered with stains. Because of the long time he has been staying in internet bars, his skin was somewhat pale. IN the hotel, Liu Ning accepted an exclusive interview with this Chengdu Business Daily journalist, sorting out his experiences in university and after graduation.

On being a top science scorer

Thesis didn’t pass, took another year before getting diploma

Chengdu Business Daily reporter (hereafter “Journalist”): How long have you been in Chengdu before you father found you today (10th)?

Liu Ning: I returned to Chengdu from Hefei last August.

Journalist: What kind of jobs have you found/held?

Li Ning: Actually, I’ve had quite a lot of jobs during my time in Chengdu. At first, I found a customer service job in a state-owned enterprise, but right from the beginning they brought up all these rules, constantly repeating a lot of very simple things, and there had to be training too. I found that annoying, so after a month, I quit. Then I found another job, making webpage games, but there would be 4 months of training, during which there would be no pay, nor food and accommodations, and whether or not one would be hired officially afterward was uncertain. so after some thought, I didn’t agree to it.

Journalist: What major did you study at the University of Science and Technology of China?

Liu Ning: Electronic science and technology. I should have graduated in 2010, but because my thesis didn’t pass, it took me another year, getting my degree in 2011 July.

On the four years after graduation

Found a few that were all not ideal, so gave up

Journalist: What work did you find after getting your degree?

Liu Ning: At the time, I worked for an internet gaming company in Hefei. The monthly salary was about 2000 yuan [~330 USD], and I even got around 3000 yuan [~500 USD] as a year-end bonus, which isn’t bad for that area. But I only worked there for 9 months before resigning. The main reason was because I had to work night shifts, and what more, I did not get along with my manager, feeling he was always picking on me.

Journalist: Then what happened afterward?

Liu Ning: I found a few more jobs in Hefei, but none of them were ideal compared to that first one.

Journalist: Did you try to find a job in Chengdu? What was your source of income?

Liu Ning: I had about 6000 yuan in savings from previously working in Hefei. When I used all of that, I had to ask for money from my family. The jobs I found weren’t very ideal, so I eventually just gave up.

On homeless life

Bought snacks for [Chinese] New Year’s Eve, and spent the night in an internet cafe

Journalist: Then what have you been doing in Chengdu?

Liu Ning: Mainly playing, reading novels, sleeping, going to internet cafés. Around December last year, my three month rental was up and I didn’t continue renting. So I basically started a period of “homeless” life in Chengdu. In the daytime, I usually take the bus to go around sightseeing. I’ve been to Wuhou Temple, but the entrance ticket was too expensive so I just walked around outside. At night, I usually spend the night in an internet café, mainly sleeping. Sometimes I’ll sleep on the streets.

Journalist: Where did you spend Chinese New Year?

Liu Ning: [Chinese] New Year’s Eve and New Year’s Day were both spent in an internet café. On New Year’s Eve, I bought some snacks and spent the entire night in the internet café. I was going to call my family and wish them a happy new year, but then I thought there’s nothing much to say so I didn’t call.


“The main problem is still mine”

Journalist: Do you think this way of living is normal?

Liu Ning: This month has indeed been very difficult. But when I walk on the street or sit on the bus, listening to people’s idle conversations and listening to their working lives, I feel like an an outsider, and it is very relaxing.

Journalist: Have you thought about what brought you to where you are now?

Liu Ning: I have given that too much thought by now, and I think the main problem is still mine. From elementary school to high school, my grades have always been very good. When I got into the University of Science and Technology of China, I was secretly hoping that I might become a great scientist like Einstein, or Hawking, even change the entire world. But after entering university, my grades were average, and compared to my fellow students, I was just ordinary. Moreover, I felt I didn’t have the brilliance or madness of a genius. However, when it comes to actual life, to be like the vast majority of people, to find a job, get married, have children, and make money to support a family, I find that really boring and pointless.

Journalist: I hear you’ve previously asked “what’s the meaning of life”?

Liu Ning: It was just a random question. Mainly I just feel I can’t see the meaning or goal in the way people live their lives, everything so mediocre. For instance, if it were wartime, would I have more value, more accomplishments? Just like in the past when I liked playing online games, it was because in the game I could lead companions in getting through many difficulties [pass levels, defeat enemies], and be recognized [praised] for it. Actually, I’ve always understand these [games] were illusory [virtual] things.

Journalist: Now that your Dad has found you, are you going home with him?

Liu Ning: I originally planned to go find a job as a website manager after the [Chinese] new year period, so that I can support myself first before deciding what to do next. But considering the current circumstances, I will probably follow my Dad to my older sister’s place, but right now I actually haven’t thought it through yet.


Comments from QQ:

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On the one hand, we should rethink our education system. On the other hand, we should provide more guidance in shaping college students’ perspectives on life, on the world, and their values, achieving development where people are placed at the center, allowing people to make full use of their talents.


Online games in China are all over the place, to the point where even ads for those zombie games have been made into cartoons for kindergarten children to watch. It’s extremely disagreeable, and very poisonous! What’s more poisonous than opium, heroin, and smog are these zombie games, poisoning the teenagers and children’s minds, full of foul atmosphere and chaotic thinking! These game developers care about nothing but making money! Extremely detestable!!

ヾ小 城ヽ:

The value of high education is getting lower and lower. Many college students waste their time playing computer games in their dormitory, while those who did not get into college either either learn a trade or make a living some other way, but after four years, college students have spent over 100,000 RMB and still may not get anything [a good jobs] for it…. This is a very common problem now.


I am an elementary school teacher and personally think I am a fair person. For example, I never criticise China’s football players and coaches because at least China’s football team is still top 100 in the world, while China’s education is nearly at the bottom of the ranks!!!


Taking tests depends on one’s abilities, while work depends on fathers [connections]…


Pathetic exam-oriented Chinese education. I graduated thirteen years ago and realized this problem: those kids who were troublemakers in school are now driving BMWs, while the lives of those who conformed to the rules are now…


Truly sad! It has all become a society focused on money now, where finding a decent job without money or connections is way too difficult. With money and connections, you don’t need to graduate from a famous university and still qualify [be hired, get the job].

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  • moeimoei

    what he needs is just a dose of reality…

    • Gerhana

      or a job

      • moeimoei

        the boy had dozens of jobs, but can’t hold on to one b/c none of those jobs seem to comply with his fantastical standard…

    • Jahar

      This is reality.

  • 21tigermike


  • One for all

    Sounds like the kid is suffering from PTSD…..spending all your life in books with no time to develop your sense of self and personality will eventually take its toll.

    At least he didn’t off himself….he still has a future

  • Gerhana

    is he or the society is the problem here?

    • Markoff

      well even with so many spoiled brats everywhere in China I am pretty sure they are not so much out of touch with reality as this guy – training in new job? quit. doesn’t like manager? quit. I dunno what this guy expect, they will hire him as CEO without any training, no communication with any workers and pay him at least 20K per month for doing nothing? Good luck finding job like that.

      but yeah Chinese education system sucks wasting lives of Chinese youth who are then completely unprepared for real life

    • Jahar

      Blaming society is a cop out. Never, in the history of the world, has it been society’s duty to find you a job, or to stop you from washing out.

      • Perhaps it should be society’s duty to find jobs for people. Have you considered that? Skip back a few hundred years and you might as well say, “Never in the history of the world are people allowed to vote?” or “Never in the history of the world has slavery been considered a bad thing.” We can improve society. In fact, I’d say it is our duty to do so.

        • ScottLoar

          But some societies had found jobs for people, or assigned them jobs. Read the history of China during the Maoist period. Then read the history of China during the Qin (秦) Dynasty. Look to the work programs of the US in the 30’s, then to that of the USSR and Germany during the same period. The feudal system in Europe bound people to work, to a place, to a position. I’m sure there are numerous examples in other places at other times.

          Yes, we can improve society, it is our duty to do so, but assigning work to you and others will improve society? Assigning work will improve you and others? I have seen government favor a particular ethnic and religious group, guaranteeing their education, their employment, and to what end? It creates a group who dislike their work which comes through in their attitude, fosters entitlement from generation to generation, generally keeps such a group unskilled and mediocre, and invites enmity from those disallowed such privilege.

          This subject here is rich with posts from people who have honestly, candidly, recounted what they’ve gone through and why. You should read and heed, read and heed. It seems you’ve had no direction for a decade or more, and should understand that you need management, a control in your life. Get yourself into a structured environment where you are told what to do and when to do it, and in time you’ll find yourself better off. Posting on ChinaSmack to this group is not what you should be doing.

        • moop

          If you’re able_bodied and under 35 why not look into military service? Or take advantage of the fracking boom in the dakotas. The us is looking for air traffic controllers and you dont even need experience. Stop being a waste of space waiting for your fortunes to magically change. Nobody owes you a fucking thing

        • Jahar

          Yeah that’s the same thing.

  • Markoff

    just one more spoiled brat, nothing special happening here

    “Four years ago, Liu Ning graduated from college yet was unable to find an ideal job.”
    – yeah, ideal first job for rest of your life, that’s daily reality of majority of people…

    “At first, I found a customer service job in a state-owned enterprise, but right from the beginning they brought up all these rules, constantly repeating a lot of very simple things, and there had to be training too. I found that annoying, so after a month, I quit.”
    – all these rules and training for new employees? what an horrible company, how dare they?!

    “The main reason was because I had to work night shifts, and what more, I did not get along with my manager, feeling he was always picking on me.”
    – because we all love our managers

    common, is this guy for real or is he? can someone be really so dumb and out of touch with reality?

  • ScottLoar

    This story is typical of the times, of the generation, not the culture. I can see such examples in any affluent or developing society, or among any affluent group, and the mistaken notion that education, a university degree, should guarantee an income (it doesn’t) is also common.

  • SonofSpermcube

    Perhaps the Gaokao isn’t a good predictor of student success…

    • LeftVentricle

      What about those who’s life has been changed for the better because of this exam. They don’t get mentioned a lot.

      • SonofSpermcube

        No one’s life has been changed for the better by the exam itself, but by the opportunity afforded by using means other than who your daddy is to decide who gets to succeed in life.

    • comradewang

      Just like the SATs are not a good way to measure students’ intellect. Some people are very bright and is filled with potentials but are just bad test takers.

    • Eileithyia

      SAT and Gaokao are about the same. Just different kind of questions. People who do well in SAT will do well in Gaokao or vice versa.
      we are facing the same problem here in US. We have homeless MIT students too. Tons of US college grads can’t find jobs.

  • ScottLoar

    Which one would you choose at age 30? At age 40? Ya’ see yourself sightseeing each day, relaxing, reading books and playing computer games at age 50 and liking it still? Living alone of course, friendless and loveless, and in poverty no less because the support of your parents had long since dried up.

  • FYIADragoon

    If you actually read it, this kid’s the one who screwed up. He had an SOE job locked in that he just threw away because it was “annoying.” Felt like I was listening to an American kid complain. Kids these days don’t understand that it’s called work for a reason.

    • Yui

      Of course it’s an American kid.

    • Chris McKenna

      I don’t think you’re wrong. But don’t you think there is something terribly wrong with the world that all we do is work, breed and die? I think that’s what the guy was talking about. He knows there should be more to life that just slaving away all day. At least in the past people use to believe in something (even if that belief was misguided). Now very few people believe in anything: family, God, country, they’ve all gone out the window (and that’s a good thing in some cases). But we’ve not replaced them with any great ideas. Instead all we have left it the void where we know something should be.

      • Germandude

        Isn’t the real fault produced through the media? Two words: Consumption & Entitlement.

        No matter if you are in the US, in GER, in China or anywhere else. The one thing that you can find everywhere is a constant, never-ending bombardment of commercials on TV, Internet, banners, taxis, busses and wherever else you can imagine that are suggesting you to consume. Brand clothes because you look prettier. Make-up to match that model’s look. Big car to show what kind of man you are and so on.

        You are suggested to consume to not lose track and status to the other consumption-whores around you. Dude next to you has the iPhone 5 while you have the iPhone 4? He is ahead of the game. And when you lost the race of consumerism because your paycheck and your credit card has limits, you are reaching the next step: Entitlement.

        As you can clearly see in wealthier nations, entitlement attitudes justify that somebody should pay for it. It’s your god-damn given right to participate in society. And in a consumer society not being able to consume kicks you out of society. In that case, let the government (others) pay. You are entitled to be a human being since you were born one. So if you cannot consume, you cannot be one member of society.

        Only a few understand this concept. Only fewer are living out of this concept and try finding alternatives.

        • Kai
        • ScottLoar

          I think you credit “media” with too much power.

          The media – no matter print, film, art or sound – can only pander to desires, it cannot create a desire that is not already inherent to a person nor can it incite a need that the person does not already have. What? Yes, look to the simple constructs of “bravery” and “obedience” What nation, what group, does not want their people or those in their supposed influence to be brave and obedient? Yet despite authorities’ best efforts, abetted by law and proclamation, people stubbornly remain themselves,and don’t swallow that line unless they are predisposed to do so: Look to the example of China or Korea these last hundred years. Now look to yourself: What has last convinced you do do something you did not want to do? An advertisement? Government propaganda? Big business telling you to buy a product or brand you don’t like? If you made any choice or decision it is by simple fact that you – just you – had a predilection to do so anyway. Just look at the arguments here and understand it is not reason that convinces people to a purpose but pandering to their own interests and likes.

          We at this time give too much credence to that amorphous “media” or “government”, sounding like we are clay within their hands, yet our pronouncements, our very fact of posting and blaming media and government proves that we are not their creatures.

          • Germandude

            Sorry Scott, are you trying to tell me that marketing and media cannot create a desire for sth that you wouldn’t even know about otherwise?

          • ScottLoar

            Yes, and I gave the examples of bravery and obedience as qualities governments and authority gave tried to create in those under their control but to no avail.

          • Germandude

            If I remember correctly, you are a Vietnam veteran, right?

            Bravery and obedience are the easiest to create and to exploit as proven in history a billion times. Until today. And for sure as well tomorrow.

          • ScottLoar

            I can tell you most people are not brave or obedient and do not go forward as brave or obedient. Behind those brave and obedient to a cause (and for their own reasons, not because government or authority washed their minds to it) are hundreds more indifferent at least, compliant at most.

            Despite the most strenuous efforts of political cadre, calls to save The Motherland and other political work, men could not be driven to save the USSR. They deserted en masse – by divisions – in the early stages of WWII, and by the end had to be driven forward by machine gunning in the rear. This does not deny those activated by patriotism, but they are in the minority, and the virtue of patriotism quickly evaporates in combat. At one time more than 20% of the American bombers directed to bombing Japan would excuse themselves on technical difficulties and turn back before engagement until the commander of operations General Curtis Le May prosecuted them for cowardice. You see, they had to be “compelled”, not induced or otherwise persuaded contrary to their basic and inherent fear and loathing.

            Soldiers well know they stand and fight not for abstractions like country and patriotism but because those alongside them think ill of cowardice, and so they go on. When that icon of American manliness John Wayne toured the Pacific Theater and presented himself before a crowd of combat US Marines they booed him away; they well understood the fiction he presented.

            But my point is, media (okay, marketing as well) panders to existing desires and can incite those desires, but media cannot change one’s nature or cause one to act contrary to one’s dislikes. People are not so malleable.

      • ScottLoar

        Chris McKenna, I think you’ve hit the nail on the head, and squarely. This kid is lost, asking himself “Is that all there is my friend?”, and he’ll not rise out of the doubt and depression until he finds purpose in life.

        A true story. I knew a man through business, and through that we came to know each other as men and could share our thoughts. His oldest son committed suicide and for reasons none could understand, but it tore apart father and mother (as he told me, “the nights are the worst”, and this coming from a man in his 50’s thinking life is constant; how many of us could bear up?). The other, younger son who had been directionless, without purpose, looked at this and changed his life completely, becoming in time (this is no idle tale) a member of an 8-man Green Beret team deployed to Afghanistan. And deployed again. His father spoke of this with pride on the one hand, fear on the other that he would lose a second son, but he could not deny his son found salvation and purpose. Yes, salvation and purpose.

        I’ve seen boys and men, again and again, dedicate themselves after wandering aimlessly. I think this kid will turn out okay, he just needs time. Time. Time. And a little help on the way.

      • Jahar

        Blame the world. As if the world was better before?

      • Reptilian

        Well, we all think about existential issues like that. Why this kind of existence? Are we alone in the universe? Etc, etc. But at the same time, you cannot deny that there is a living, breathing organism supporting that brain of yours, and your primary instinct is to feed it and survive. So the kid should go out and get a job, and leave the philosophical musings to late nights with beer or caffeine.

        To devote yourself wholly to endless mental and physical wandering at the expense of your own growth, as well as your father’s retirement funds, is simply irresponsible.

    • SonofSpermcube

      “it’s called work for a reason”

      When people say this (with this phrasing), are they trying to sound stupid for the sake of sarcasm, or are they not pretending?

  • Commander Jameson

    He seems to have a similar mindset to our Western ‘Millenials’ who all seem to want to start as a CEO because they spent a few years at University. He may be suffering from some type of mental illness and certainly has no intestinal fortitude.
    If he doesn’t pull himself together soon he will be on the scrapheap of life.

    • miomeinmio

      That’s not fair at all. Most college-educated youngsters ANYWHERE aren’t asking to be CEOs, they’re asking for jobs that will challenge and stimulate them. They don’t want to be cogs in the machine doing repetitive tasks that they could have done without being educated and banging their heads against the wall. And they want to be paid a living wage. In what world is 2000 kuai/month a LIVING wage?

      How do you get the life you were promised all your life? Because you’re given 22 years of promises about how you’re going to be able to do anything you want with this degree and this education and this hard work, but then when it comes down to it you’re asked to do something that’s boring, unfulfilling, and unrewarding. And on top of that you’re paid shit. I’m sorry, what the hell is the point of doing a shitty job when you get literally no reward for it? There’s no experience to be gained, there’s no chance for improvement. There’s no money or joy to be taken out of it. You’re basically doing a favor for someone and getting shit on, but because it’s so utterly SHAMEFUL to ask for more, because that would be so UNGRATEFUL to ask for what you’ve been promised while they were pocketing your cash, that you’re supposed to put your head down and be miserable?

      How dare you. You try to live the “privledged” life and then judge us who ask for better. There isn’t a single person on this planet who isn’t suffering from SOMETHING, so you think about that next time you dismiss this kid for ‘lacking fortitude’.

      • moop

        “How do you get the life you were promised all your life?”

        who is making these promises?

        who is naive enough to believe that spending a small fortune for a piece of paper automatically entitles them to something that they were wishing for? is a diploma like a magic lamp? could have saved the money and just thrown a quarter in the wishing well

        almost everyone starts off in a shitty job, its the hard work and dedication that separates us and puts us ahead. we’re supposed to earn the things we have in life, not ask for them. i bet a majority of the people here started with a shitty job. if doing some grunt work to get some experience is somehow beneath someone then i’m pretty sure they’re going to fail their entire life, thats not the attitude that breeds success.

        my father was an assistant manager at a denny’s and worked through his career and eventually became the director of operations for a national restaurant management corporation. you think he was promised that?

        • SonofSpermcube

          It’s connections and luck that puts most people who get ahead ahead. Working hard at grunt work does not guarantee advancement, and in some positions it doesn’t even give you a chance at it.

          Did everyone who didn’t have the success your father did lack his hard work and dedication? Everyone?

          • moop

            “Did everyone who didn’t have the success your father did lack his hard work and dedication? Everyone?”

            nope, but you’re leaving out ambition, aspirations, and recognizing opportunities.

            just because someone works hard doesn’t mean they have the ambition to progress or act when new opportunities present themselves.

            a teacher can work hard and not have any ambition or simply prefer to be a teacher rather than make more money as an administrator.

            connections can help, depending where you are and who you are. in china connections matter a lot more then in the US. the connections you forge yourself are usually more fruitful and meaningful anyways.

            luck doesnt account for much unless you literally won the lottery. even if you do happen to be in the right place at the right time, in the long run hard work, talent, and social skills will keep you up top. the lucky rarely stay there

          • SonofSpermcube

            Just world fallacy’s a hell of a drug.

          • niggaplz

            what most people don’t realize is that today is a different world from 30-40 years ago. The age of economic growth is over as the era of cheap oil ended in 1999. It will not get better, it will only get worse. When macroeconomic condition is bad, hard work and ambition can only get you so far. The US financial crisis and Euro debt crisis has already happened, the china/emerging market crisis is about to begin.

          • ScottLoar

            “what most people don’t realize is that today is a different world from 30-40 years ago.” Really? Most of us still think we are floating somewhere between 1974 and ’84 in “big hair” do’s, watching the Johnny Carson Show, using pay phones, driving chromed gas guzzlers, and sneaking peeks at Playboy magazine?

            “The age of economic growth is over as the era of cheap oil ended in 1999.” Then why don’t worldwide economic indices – life expectancy, consumer spending, manufacturing and services, GNP – show a decline since 1999? And those developing economies which have clearly grown since 1999 are – what? Anomalies?

            “When macroeconomic condition is bad, hard work and ambition can only get you so far.” Yet another truism from “niggaplz” and warning that hard work and ambition can only get you so far. How far? Ask “niggaplz”, or ask the wealthy in any country who continue to wax wealthy, mostly through returns on investments (warning here: only 6% of wealthy Americans became so by inherited wealth).

            “The US financial crisis and Euro debt crisis has already happened, the china/emerging market crisis is about to begin.” Crisis after crisis! The US and Europe are down and soon China and the emerging markets will be down and out says “niggaplz” – the sky is falling! the sky is falling! “niggaplz” do you own stocks? Seen any stock growth since 1999?

            As counter example to the pronouncements of “niggaplz” look to this article by Robert Kagan, The Myth of American Decline dated January 11, 2012, from The New Republic,


            Why, “niggaplz” do you insist on posting inane generalities? No proof, no references, just grand and silly pronouncements. Why don’t you read on the very subjects you presume to represent with authority? You don’t know what you’re talking about so why bull on?

          • Paul Schoe

            Thanks for the link. One of the problems of America is what I would call “over-publication”. Every problem is published and discussed more publicly and with more intense then ever before (possible).
            This leads to a tendency to find the individual anecdotes more important then the overall picture.

            A century ago, and millenia before that, only the highest level officals and businessmen would be very aware of ‘failures’ in other regions. These blips would fall away in the overall picture. Nowadays, each such failure (or victory) is discussed as an example of a trend. Moving our view of the world from reality to juicy anecdotes.

            As far as the perceived decline of the US is concerned (which, in my own opinion, is taking place as far a personal liberty/rights and social fairness is concerned), this article presents an clear antidote. A nice read.

          • niggaplz

            “do you own stocks? Seen any stock growth since 1999?”
            Well looks to me the stock market has peaked. If you had bought stocks in 1999 and hold it til 2015, your return would be negative.

          • niggaplz

            In fact, adjusted for inflation, today’s stock market is still below the 2000 peak.

          • ScottLoar

            Once again,do some research; see


            The Dow has gone from 11337.90 in 2000 to the present 15680.35, which does argue against your stubborn supposition of stagnation, even economic depression, and grand pronouncement that “it will only get worse”. Other indices show increasing longevity worldwide among countries as the global economy grows, better health, less conflict (fair warning: I can argue that one with support so take care), higher standards of education and health care – this is the world we live in, not the short, nasty and brutish fantasy cynical mopes exchange on the internet.

            “niggaplz”, without independent or original thought you can only repeat popular hearsay rather than give time to investigate the facts of a matter. Please read that sentence with understanding. And the crying shame is this: You needn’t be at all knowledgeable in navigating through a library or culling reference books to find such facts; just type, tap and a listing is thrown up on the screen (do try to advance beyond Wikipedia). You do, however, need a discriminating mind, a reasonable intellect and some facility in a language to gain from that convenience.

        • miomeinmio

          I think there’s a difference between what your father did and what I do, sitting in an office listening to people’s mobile phone voice searches for minimum wage.

          I’m not learning a skill, I’m not interacting with people, I’m not being mentaly stimulated. I’m not even getting paid enough to save money or pay off my student loans. I’m pressing the button, over and over and over again, for forty hours a week. And you know what? I’m the best in the office at what I do. Guess that Master’s degree paid off. Wow. What a skill. I’m really creating something valuable here. I’m missing my opportunities and promotions left and right as they come whizzing down the aisle.

          So I’m unhappy, because I went to school looking for a job that would get me respect as a human being, not a machine. I go into work everyday because it’s that or homelessness, and I choose a roof over my head. But don’t think for a minute that the slightest upset couldn’t throw me into poverty. So yes, I’m upset. I’m upset and I’m unhappy and I’m insecure. I’m bitter that I didn’t need to get myself into mountains of debt to do what I’m doing now. Because whether or not you accept it we are ‘sold’ education as a way to avoid the very jobs we end up doing when we leave. When you don’t get what you paid for, are you pleased? Do you look up with ‘thank you sir may I have another’? I don’t think so.

          Yes, this kid’s choices put him there, but making a moral judgement on him, calling him ‘lazy’, is a convenient way to ignore the fact that he doesn’t act in a vaccum, and by demanding respect as a living breathing person instead of a cog he’s being punished. He didn’t pop out of the ground thinking the world owed him something, he was taught that by slaving away and giving up his childhood and subsuming his desires he’d get a reward. So where the hell is it? Oh, wait.

          • moop

            what is your master’s degree in?
            what area of the country are you in?
            what is keeping you there?
            would you be willing to move?

            we are sold the idea, but we arent forced to buy into it. did you decide to go get a master’s when the bubble popped because you were fearful of not finding a job (i know someone who did that)

          • ScottLoar

            Because I was faced with questions I could not answer, because I was not conversant in the canons of common references, I knew I needed higher education. Yeah, maybe that sounds abstract, elitist, snobby, but I went to a higher education – as my daughter did a generation later – because I was compelled by intellectual need and not for money or the questionable status of a higher degree.

          • miomeinmio

            I’m less bitter over the amount I paid and what I got for it, and more bitter when people like you or the guy I originally responded to throw out oh so casually, “Kids today are so ENTITLED, they think things should be HANDED to them. Don’t they know about HARD WORK? My father did this, and I did this, and it all worked out so perfectly fine for us and so I don’t see why they have the GALL to complain.” The condescension inherent in such statements and assumptions truly grate. My end line in the first post about everybody have something that causes them to suffer – my point is that none of us here can speak for other people. We can say what we believe, and we can say what we’ve experienced, and that’s it. You don’t know me, I don’t know you, but casting moral aspersions on me or people like me because we’re unhappy with where we are in life is insulting, because nobody here knows where we came from or what we’re facing.

            Who are you to say what my expectations were? Really, who are you to sit there and dismiss me? Here, let me tell you what my lofty fucking expectations were: $2000/mo in a job, preferably an office, where I ideally had career advancement opportunities and experience to gain. You know what I make? Like $1200. So you sit the hell down, because if I’m struggling to find that you can damn well bet I’m gonna open my mouth and complain about my position. I’ll do this work and slave away for some corporate giant who doesn’t have the courtesy to toss me a bone, and I’m going to be unhappy. And I’m not going to be ashamed about being unhappy and I’m not going to let someone else shame me about being unhappy. I work damn hard for what I’ve got, and it’s only by the good graces of my friends and family that I get by on that. Can you imagine this kid? He doesn’t even have that.

            For your information I got a Master’s in the US, where I am a citizen, to do work in a specific field, not because the economy was bad. I got the damn thing because I have a goal. And yes, I’m willing to relocate anywhere in the world to get “the” job, and no, I’m not holding out for my ‘ideal’ job. But I demand to be treated with respect, not talked down to or treated like less than a human being. And believe it or not, we very rarely get treated like human beings in minimum wage positions. And since we’re SUPPOSED talking about China here, LET ME TELL YOU that people in China very rarely get treated like human beings full stop. I sympathize with this kid. His own parents condescended to him like you’ve done with me, I can’t imagine that feeling. I’m grateful everyday for my mother who knows how to tell me to get my ass in gear and still let me know she loves me. That Liu Ning didn’t have that? I couldn’t imagine.

          • moop

            I’m 30 years old so I’m in the same generation I’m supposively disparaging. The reason I asked you the series of questions believe it or not is to see if I could actually help you. If you’d like to contact me feel free to get my details from chinasmack. dont be too offended by my aspergers moments

          • miomeinmio

            I’m sorry, Moop, for getting so jacked up about the whole thing the other day. I read all these comments from people basically dismissing this kid and it really struck a chord for me, because I can see myself in him, I think. Sorry that I happened to take it out on you by getting a bit hostile.

            I do hear you, and I do understand the point others are making. After all, I suppose there’s a reason I make the choice to keep going into my shitty job every day. I guess I just wish there was a better system in place. While I’m a firm capitalist, I’ve always felt Marx was on to something when he talked about the separation of man from his labor. It hollows you out inside.

            Good luck in your endeavors, and do let me know if you ever need anything yourself.

          • moop

            “When you don’t get what you paid for, are you pleased”
            welcome to the education system, the one place where the customer is always wrong. i hated college and resented being more or less coerced by society’s expectations to be there, and i hate that i mounted debt for a piece of paper. but i couldnt imagine feeling as bitter as you do about it. i didnt have the lofty expectations you seem to. i never viewed a diploma as a free ticket to my future, or a symbol of my “right” to a rewarding and lucrative career. i just viewed as some shit i had to deal with in order to do what i wanted to do.

      • Commander Jameson

        Wow, what a wall of text.
        Frankly, nobody enjoys just being a cog in the machine but we put up with it to put food on the table while we search for better opportunities. I myself am in a repetitive tedious job, but it has the benefit of being well paid. Sadly that doesn’t make me any happier and I find it depressing so what am I doing? Sending out my resume and applying for more interesting jobs….the job I have has given me a great deal of insight into how large companies work and I intend to use that knowledge to find a more satisfactory job.
        The poor fellow in the article is just slowly losing what skills and knowledge he has as he wastes away in internet cafes.
        Thinking about it more, I am even more positive he is suffering from some mental illness, unfortunately he is in China where those things are not well handled so it looks quite grim for him.
        As for you, I hope you can use your skills to find a more satisfying job.
        Good day.

        • miomeinmio

          Regarding looking for something better, I hear you. I’m doing the same thing every day myself. My post wasn’t intended to say that when you’re in this situation it’s totally hopeless and there’s nothing you can do. Indeed, I would definitely not have made the choices this kid has made, and I agree totally with your comments about his mental state and the social situation he’s in. He needs some serious help he’s not going to get in China.

          I’m sorry if my post came off as a bit hostile. I had just read all these comments by people basically slamming this kid, a kid I feel like I see a lot of my own self in, and I was pretty jacked up. Unfortunately, it happened to be your comment that caught my eye. I try not to randomly attack people on the internet for stating their points of view, but apparently the other day I was a bit off my rocker.

          Hope you’re well.

  • narsfweasels

    It would appear that the kid firstly had too many expectations piled on top of him, and he began to believe his own hype. Being feted like this can only lead to an ego trip, and the words of the father show that he has been on the same thing.

    When I left University I went for every graduate job I could find, when I didn’t get a single one, I started my own crappy company that made me a lot of money. At no point have I ever felt that I deserved the success, rather I had taken the steps to EARN it.

    I hope this young man, and anyone in a similar situation, can realise the fallacy of their own invincibility and find peace with their self-image.

    • yanukovitch

      What company did you started ?

      • narsfweasels

        It was a photography studio, a business partner and I took out a business loan, paid it back after 6 months then I sold my stake for about triple. Then a few years later I had some kind of mental aberration and came to China.

        • yanukovitch

          Thank you, I’m planning to open a starbuck-look-alike back in my country , every entrepreneur story inspire and encourage me :)

  • mr.wiener

    Secret to happiness? Lower your expectations I guess. As long as you find satisfaction in what you do, and maybe even a chance of advancement, things usually turn out OK.

  • North-eastern

    Chinese dream:
    1. Study hard.
    2. Go to a “good” university.
    3. Find a “good” job.

    Problem with that? Well, younger people have been so brainwashed by the society, they think as soon as they walk out of the college with a degree, millions of jobs will be lined up waiting for them. It’s typical. Every young person I ask what he or she want to do in the future? the answer is always the same: “Find a good job”.. but no one is able to realize or understand the concept of “working your way up by improving yourself during the job”. They all want to “get” the top position instead of “reach” to the top.

    I worked in a trade company for 8 years. Started as an office boy and when I quit after 8 years, I was the Manager of Export Department. There was nothing more left to achieve. So I quit and offered them a partnership. I used to work for them, now I work together with them.

    • Things were different when you started working at a trade company. That kind of job isn’t common anymore since wealth disparity has gutted the economy. And companies no longer reward you with 8 years of work just because you are loyal to them. These days they rent people from temp agencies for a few months, then let them go and bring in the next set of monkeys.

      • North-eastern

        I would disagree with some of yours and others comments here…

        I started college in 1996, two years later dropped out. Meanwhile, I did plenty of patty jobs, and enrolled into some skill development classes. I learnt typing (on a manual typewriter), then computer basics, worked in a library, worked as instructor in the same institute where I learnt typing and computer. Then, in a clinic, a real estate agency, a delivery boy, and then in a trade company. So, no.. back then was not so different from now.

        Why I changed many jobs? Because each of my next job had something to do with my previous job or skill. I learnt typing, that made me learn computers. Then I worked in the same institute teaching the same to beginners. Library. They had just computerized all their systems and needed someone who knew basic typing or computer skills. Clinic was something a little different. But still sorting out things and boxes and stuff was kinda similar to sorting out books. Real estate agency, I learnt how to convince patients they’re gonna be fine and it helped me to improve my salesmanship skills. Worked pretty well for me. Trade company, basically I was hired as a sales assistant into one of their outlets… and rest you all know..

        The young boy in the article has been through the same. He just didn’t have the patience I would say. He had higher expectations and with every job he had, his expectations didn’t meet with the result. Simple is that.

        • You were very fortunate. Be grateful for that. :)

    • SonofSpermcube

      The bottom position IS the fucking top position for most jobs these days.

  • bprichard

    It sounds like he was a big fish in a small pond. Then university just revealed what had always been the case, he was pretty good but not great.


    Confucius say…Chinese education…is path to cocky ignorance

  • nqk123

    this guy is just lost like most people when they’re young. he is a little more extreme than rest of us though.

  • ESL Ninja

    Can’t he just go to a western country and earn way over the average by teaching Chinese to schoolkids?

    • Jahar


      • ESL Ninja

        Man, it must suck to be Chinese. Even the Filipinos that they hate come over here and earn a good wage doing easy work. Hell, even AFRICANS do it.

        • Jahar

          Careful. to the untrained eye that might come across as racist (I get it though).

          • ESL Ninja

            Yeah sorry, I was typing from a Chinese perspective…

  • A Gawd Dang Mongolian

    Seen this far too often. Students who graduate with little to no work experience and are surprised when things don’t turn out as they wanted.

  • Boris_Da_Bengal_Tiger

    I’ve not met many Chinese people in China who ask “What’s the meaning of life?” they just get on with what is expected of them (job, for house, car, get married and have a kid, etc.).

    Personally, it does sound like the guy needs a bit of help, his head checked and made to realise that things don’t come easy, you have to start from the bottom. Or if he was smart he would have saved the money and invested in it wisely.

  • I graduated with a computer science degree from Cal Poly in 2002 and the only job I could get was a telemarketing job in the Bay Area. It was right around the tech bust, and there were too many people with longer resumes in my field. I was fired after a year, and haven’t been able to find employment since. They only want new workers just out of college, or people with very long resumes and long experience. My parents support me.

    • Jahar

      You sound like a Democrat haha.

      • I don’t care much for either Democrats or Republicans. There are far more important problems to solve in this country than a childish “Red versus Blue” culture war.

        • Jahar

          If your couldn’t find a job other than telemarketing in 12 years, either the US economy is worse than I could ever imagine, or you have other issues. In my 15 years since dropping out of university, I’ve never gone more than a month without a job, and that was by choice.

    • donscarletti

      You’ve been unemployed and supported for 11 years. What have you done in that time?

      You’re presumably a trained computer programmer, so you could have written any software you wanted to in that time, unconstrained by the pressures and orders of management.

      You could have written Open Source software, with a world wide group of enthusiastic people, volenteers and corporate employees, developing software used by thousands of organizations, websites, desktops, etc and honing your skills with others. Doing this would make your resume stand out to any company that relies on that software and land you a good job in at most a year or two.

      You could have written applications for the iPhone App Store or Google Play, you could have made a couple of hundred dollars a week at the very least and if you’re lucky possibly even strike it rich. At any rate, your resume would put you on par with any other professional mobile developer if you wanted to become an employee later on.

      Did you?

      At least you would be doing something you’re trained to do and would be far more satisfying.

      • I wrote several extraordinarily popular maps in the Source engine, among other things, and volunteered at a homeless shelter. That didn’t get me a job, though. :)

      • Have you written a lucrative iPhone App that made you a couple hundred dollars a week? Perhaps it’s not as easy to do as it is in your imagination. I can’t even afford an iPhone.

    • ESL Ninja

      Get a job in McDonalds you fucking loser. You are in your 30s(I think) and living with your parents and doing nothing for yourself. GROW UP. there are jobs out there but people like you are too lazy to apply yourself to them. I also have a computing degree but I have never used it professionally, I have however worked in bars and restaurants, data entry centres and building sites. every penny I spend I have earnt by myself and it feels good.

      • ESL Ninja

        Sorry for the harsh language but seriously?

      • It’s cute of you to think there are all these McDonalds jobs available all over where I live. But I do congratulate you on the great fortune you have been the recipient of. :)

      • Care to recommend a local bar or restaurant that’s hiring? I’d love to work there. :)

  • ScottLoar

    Customer service in China is an alien notion. The best service is when the server sees you as a courtesy, not an imposition.

    • Rick in China

      Often the case – however, I’ve recently experienced the most amazing ‘customer’ service ever, from a government employee (or, 2 of them). Here’s what happened:

      I was searching for ages to find where I needed to go to get some kind of document that was part of the application for a birth permit in China. Since I am a foreigner, there was some kind of document which I couldn’t get from my consulate nor from anywhere in China but they said I needed it or they couldn’t process the application. I eventually ended up at the second floor in some big government building with a series of offices, most closed, all with various titles none of which seemed to be the one I wanted to find. I ended up wandering and found one office down a hall in a corner was slightly opened – so peeped in and asked the lady who was alone in there at her desk if she could help me figure out where to go. It ends up it was some office for foreign affairs, but had nothing to do with what I needed. She spent the following _1 hour and 45 minutes_, along with another lady she called in, calling a ton of different gov’t departments and trying to figure out how I could get this document, agreeing that it seemed ridiculous I needed it in the process. Eventually, seeming neither of them could find the office which could provide the document, they asked for my phone # and would contact me if they found anything. I thanked her immensely for all her help, and left, thinking nothing would come of it.

      15 minutes later, she phoned me – gave me a # (it was Friday afternoon) to call the following Monday, and they would ‘sort it out’ for me. The next Monday the phone # she gave me worked out, and the person on the other end said they contacted the people who issue the birth permit and I can just bring in the documents I had already and they’d go ahead with the processing. I don’t know what they said, we talked with them several times trying to ask them where I can get what they said I needed to no avail, but I was pretty shocked that government employees are notoriously lazy and “not here *ignore*” type response, but this lady who I randomly stumbled upon helped me without asking for a single thing, so immensely, when it wasn’t even related to her job.

      That is ‘customer’ service, especially since I wasn’t even a customer…

      • ScottLoar

        Yours is an uplifting story.

        When my wife and I had paid off our mortgage and went through the process of getting a title we were prepared for the worst, at least a day dealing with Chinese bureaucracy. Instead we were met by smiles and genuinely helpful people who went out of their way to help us, even to correct some small detail, and even holding their position open for us. We left uplifted – and embarrassed that we had assumed the worst from them.

  • Jahar

    Someone’s life didn’t turn out the way he and his parents thought it would? Oh my. Also, why was someone taking pictures of that “moment” with the father and son? was a reporter just following them around?

    • Paul Schoe

      Most likely those are stills from the security system of the Internet shop.

      • Jahar

        I think the quality is too good for that. and they aren’t taken from the same spot. and, of course, he is centered in them. that would take a whole lot of luck.

  • ESL Ninja

    I think the reason this article is important is that it shows that China is developing first world problems. Traditionally Chinese people would be completely controlled by their parents/family, now that is easing off and the kids don’t know what to do with themselves.

  • Misiooo

    Healthy sign. Chinese society slowly shows symptoms of maturity.

  • ScottLoar

    “When a resolute young fellow steps up to the great bully, the world, and takes him boldly by the beard, he is often surprised to find it comes off in his hand, and was only tied on to scare away the timid adventurers.”

    – Ralph Waldo Emerson

  • Mister.Y

    I had the worst service imaginable transferring money at a bank here for most of a year then someone suggested another bank once. The girl there was not only very helpful, but she speaks perfect English and a process that took me 3-4 hours at the other bank would take me 5-10 minutes at most at this new bank. I also have her phone number so if I need help at the bank she’ll tell the other workers what to do.

  • commander

    What’s the point of this aritcle?

    The lack of employment opportunities despite having talent?

    or just a tale about a young man who he thought has the great potential but transpire to be a mediocre?

    or a youthful tendency to get a decent job from the very start when the jump into the real world after graduation but easily quit a job whenever he or she is not well treated?

    or a cautionary tale for the government calling for more job creations in a bid to calm the simmering greviences underneath a chronically high youthful enemployment?

    I dont get where this article gets at.

    • yanukovitch

      You decide…

  • Foreign Devil

    His story is common in China I think. My wife also was like him. . always pushed, never praised. . excellent student. but burnt out and could not stand having her entire life planned out. Didn’t see her parents money and work centered life as something she wanted to have. So she dropped out of college and started drifting around China working odd jobs and online gaming.

  • lonetrey / Dan

    Feeling some extreme sympathy for this guy.

    I went a year and half without getting a steady job, even after getting a hard-fought degree from college. It’s understandably disheartening and depressing to get to a certain point, and only to receive such a fate.

    I know my opinion won’t be shared by all, or if any one else, but I really wish he knew how bad i feel for him.

    • miomeinmio

      Ding, Dan, Ding.

  • SonofSpermcube

    “I think we can assume that both of you guys’ opportunities were quite similar”

    Why would you think that?

  • G

    I can tell you whats wrong. From my office in Canada I see myself in this boy. It’s not the education, it’s not the family doing something wrong, it’s him and how he sees and values himself. I am him, and now much older I see the path of my life. I was a worker, I’ve never been unemployed since I was 14, because I’d do anything and now I own my own company and this is where the chickens come home to roost, there is nobody else to do it for buy myself and I don’t think I’m worth it. I became a designer of machines. My inventions spawned 4 companies and made a lot of people rich. I was just happy to have work and I always felt I was — less– than most other people and always put their needs ahead of mine. The people that profited from me saw my talent and gave me just enough encouragement/acceptance to keep going until I was completely burned out,

    They always feared I would see my own worth and want more … profit from it, I’ve recently been told as much by an ex partner in one of the companies I help start.

    Now I’m on my own and don’t want to work. I could be just as “happy” (that isn’t the right word) sitting in my comfortable office as laying on a park bench like this boy.

    This is anxiety and depression at work and it’s all in his head. This is what it looks like, if he could make it different for himself he would, All the scolding and anger makes it worse In his mind whats the point?!.

    The only thing that kept me existing is the people that relied on me. I felt I had to because they would suffer if I didn’t and that gave me their gratitude, This boy is too young to have people that rely on him so much. It’s such a trap, you have to be able to give yourself that kind of credit. If it can only come from someone else then it’s as worthless as you feel. In the end the negative feelings, thoughts and doubts are all just noise in your head, things like games quiet those and put your brain in neutral for a little relief.

    I really hope he finds his way. You can change your thinking and the way your brain works, I believe that now and didn’t before. I think in China especially they have the answers to this kind of problem better than we do in the west and I hope he finds his solution.

  • I don’t watch the Simpsons, or sit on a couch.

  • I would like to have some responsibilities, but apparently you have none to actually offer.

  • 10 Years. I graduated in 2002. I was unable to find a job for a year or two, then got my temporary telemarketing job from which I was fired after a year. Where should I move, exactly? Is there a McDonald’s hiring in rural Oklahoma, for example? Should I start renting an apartment there in advance of moving there? What’s my job security, if so?

    • Irvin

      Besides the degree, what are you good at or specialize in? I’m talking about practical application of your skills not just a piece of paper.

      • Very little, I suppose. It has been a long time.Perhaps I could teach English somewhere. :)

        • Irvin

          perhaps. but if you’re good at programming we could make some iphone apps or something.

  • Guest

    I would disagree with some of yours and others comments here…

    I started college in 1996, two years later dropped out. Meanwhile, I did plenty of patty jobs, and enrolled into some skill development classes. I learnt typing (on a manual typewriter), then computer basics, worked in a library, worked as instructor in the same institute where I learnt typing and computer. Then, in a clinic, a real estate agency, a delivery boy, and then in a trade company. So, no.. back then was not so different from now.

    Why I changed many jobs? Because each of my next job had something to do with my previous job or skill. I learnt typing, that made me learn computers. Then I worked in the same institute teaching the same to beginners. Library. They had just computerized all their systems and needed someone who knew basic typing or computer skills. Clinic was something a little different. But still sorting out things and boxes and stuff was kinda similar to sorting out books. Real estate agency, I learnt how to convince patients they’re gonna be fine and it helped me to improve my salesmanship skills. Worked pretty well for me. Trade company, basically I was hired as a sales assistant into one of their outlets… and rest you all know..

    The young boy in the article has been through the same. He just didn’t have the patience I would say. He had higher expectations and with every job he had, his expectations didn’t meet with the result. Simple is that.

  • Paul Schoe

    You mention my frustration: “after a few years of French you’re ready to discuss existentialism in Parisian cafes while after the same time studying Chinese you can still only talk food, family, money and other superficial stuff“.

    I haven’t given up yet, but it is a long way before you can discuss emotions, philosophy, meaning of life . . .

  • Oh your mom’s retirement money isn’t enough to cover her rent? Perhaps she should get a job like yours. After all, apparently there are so many of these jobs.

    • moop

      If you’re under 35 why not join the military? Why not go to south dakota and exploit the boom there? There is demand for airflight controllers right now with no experience required. Get off your ass and do something other than take up space. Nobody owes you a fucking thing.

      • I’m not under 35. Tried a unpaid internship thing in a military position though about three years ago. I was fired in a few months.

    • moop

      If you’re able_bodied and under 35 why not look into military service? Or take advantage of the fracking boom in the dakotas. The us is looking for air traffic controllers and you dont even need experience. Stop being a waste of space waiting for your fortunes to magically change. Nobody owes you a fucking thing

      • Oh it’s funny you mention air traffic control. That division was across the street from the VMS building. But after a pretty terrible internship 16 years ago they don’t want me.

  • don mario

    got average grades and felt was doomed to a life of mediocrity. a familiar story the world over. grades don’t mean shit in the real world, but they will never teach this in school. ruining kids confidence is much better for them.

  • DRaY

    This is the problem with stupid college kids. They feel a sense of entitlement and deserve the best job , just because they graduated University. Fuck outta here…. Dude didnt even stay at any job for more than a year it seems and is discouraged from finding a new job … When I graduated University, I took the first job I could find, then left that job after 9 months for another job that paid less, but after 3 years my salary had jumped from 20k to 60k. per year. The first 6 months at any new job is kinda weird and you need time to master you craft and learn the politics.. this kids is a fucking idiot… he should starve!!!!!

  • Willie D

    false sense of entitlement… much?

  • mike921

    Yep, those Chinese kids are great as passing tests…..

  • Subhajit

    It is said that run behind excelence, donot behind success, if you follow the excelence, success follow you, donot spend life by only reading the books, try to grab the knowledge from the books and use those for welfare of the world, donot wait for job, try to do something ownself which will inspire other and will lead to bright up the future along with the society, so need trust and confidence, use the study to carry you, donot carry the study.

  • Dr Sun

    sums it up quite nicely

    “Taking tests depends on one’s abilities, while work depends on fathers [connections]…”