Korean Girl Wins China’s Miss Campus Pageant, Netizen Reactions

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From NetEase:

Korean Girl wins China Miss Campus Competition

The 6th annual China Miss Campus ended, Korean Li Xuanzhen “Ice Cream Girl” from the Communication University of China won China’s Miss Campus. In June of this year, she became popular online after pictures of her eating ice cream was posted online, and because of this, she was called the “Ice Cream Girl”.

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Comments on NetEase:

网易江苏省手机网友:

How is this China’s Miss Campus, why does it have to be a bangzi?

网易北京市手机网友:

If she didn’t get cosmetic surgery, she really would be beautiful.

这名字重了没 [网易广东省手机网友]:

China’s Miss Campus, and Korea won? This is a joke right?

网易吉林省长春市手机网友:

South Korea is now a province of China?

网易山东省青岛市网友:

This kind of news is disgraceful, she is not even that beautiful. As if there are no beautiful girls in Chinese universities, the organizers should be ashamed.

145053405 [网易山西省太原市手机网友]:

How did China’s Miss Campus select a Korean girl? Is this China’s Miss Campus or International Miss Campus?

网易湖北省武汉市手机网友:

To tell you the truth, Korean girls are good looking.

网易广东省佛山市手机网友:

Are they crazy? China’s Miss Campus must be Chinese.

网易湖北省武汉市手机网友:

There are no one left in China?

网易广东省深圳市手机网友:

No boobs!

哩哔哩哔哩 [网易黑龙江省哈尔滨市手机网友]:

What the fuck does China’s Miss Campus have to do with Koreans, so now Koreans can smugly claim that Korea had conquered China.

昔日不足夸 [网易福建省莆田市网友]:

The should change the title to Korea’s Miss Campus.

为乐而来 [网易上海市网友]:

This type of girls have to use beautifying apps to look beautiful, 200 yuan a night at the most.

涛涛的扇子 [网易山西省晋中市手机网友]:

Where is milk tea girl?

网易江西省上饶市手机网友:

This is an insult to Chinese people, China’s Miss Campus selected a Korean, does China have no beautiful girls left? A country that can’t even look up to itself, no wonder other countries look down on us.

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Written by Joe

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  • Stefan

    Korea has actually been part of China once in it’s history, so maybe it’s time to reclaim it?

    • mr.wiener

      That didn’t work out so well last time….

    • lacompacida

      And Japan should reclaim China, and the occupation wasn’t as far back as China occupying Korea.

    • Gordon Gogodancer

      not that debate again…

  • Was this a beauty pageant?
    Did she win anything (besides the cool looking bottle of Bubble Bath)?

  • AbC

    Wow… Lots of hate from the online Chinese community over such a trivial matter.
    She is clearly not the prettiest girl in Chinese universities, but she was voted by the Chinese due to her high profile and won. She is a student in a Chinese university, so she has equal rights to win an award intended for Chinese university students. The backlash online seems so petty and moronic.

    • Zappa Frank

      I don’t see hate, maybe disappointment.

      • terroir

        “bangzi”, allegations of cosmetic surgery, “no wonder other countries look down upon us”.

        Oh, China: of all the Charlie Browns in the world, you’re the Charlie Brownest!

        • Probotector

          Good grief

          • terroir

            Let’s put it this way: China doesn’t expect you to pull away the football before you kick it, it NEEDS you to pull away the football.

      • AbC

        Nah, I read the comments again, and I still feel the ‘hate’ in the comments. Disappointment is definitely too light a word to describe most of the comments…

        • 山炮 ShanPao

          Bangzi is a racist term used to belittle the Korean race. How anyone that understands Chinese can claim that this is not full of hate is beyond me. If they dont speak Chinese, then how can they comment?

          • Zappa Frank

            maybe you didn’t notice that comments are translated in English

          • 山炮 ShanPao

            Wow, thats a really stupid comment. Is your reading comprehension really that low? You must be American.

            After visiting this website for 5 years I am quite clear on the its presentation. For lower level readers I’ll rephrase my comment to something a little more thought out: ‘Hey, Some of these English translations need a little more background for all readers to understand the context and feeling behind them. Some of them can be quite misleading if you don’t have much Chinese language ability’.

          • Surfeit

            Actually, the semantics behind your previous post are considerably different to the accentuations you impart for readers with your follow-up comment. A readers level and/or their comprehension skills are not liable to such equivocal short prose. The onus falls upon the writer; Sardonic indictment is not befitting of entropy.

          • 山炮 ShanPao

            I normally don’t respond to comments 24 hours after the fact, but I couldn’t let you get away with this one. From you short ‘American’ style response it was easy to see you’ve tried far too hard to sound clever. This means two things; firstly and ultimately, you’re being pretentious and anyone with half a brain can see that; you look like a tit. Secondly, your ‘Google synonyms’ troll came off as exactly what it is – the wrong words being used to explain away a vanished point. Oh Americans and their patriotism, it is the cancer of nationality…

          • Surfeit

            “firstly and ultimately”

          • David

            Sad little man. I hope you feel better about yourself now.

          • 山炮 ShanPao

            American.

          • David

            And very proud of it.

    • Xio Gen

      She is clearly not the prettiest? Jesus Christ your standards are high. She’s gorgeous!

      • Gordon Gogodancer

        I don’t think you read his comment properly

      • donscarletti

        Prettiest is a comparative term. To be the prettiest, there must be no prettier girl. It doesn’t imply she’s not up to one’s own standards, just not up to the standard of another girl.

        • Sputnik

          superlative*

    • wrle

      Seeing how some chinese people have to talk down others in such a way, it just reveals the deep insecurity they have with themselves. Because the reality is, there are so many chinese girls that look up to korean beauty standards and at the end of the day they are basically just copying those “cosmetic surgery” “bangzis”. Is it no surprise that chinese tourists make up the largest number of foreigners that get plastic surgery in korea every year?

      • donscarletti

        For what it’s worth, Koreans probably have a worse case of using shallow pride to cover deep shame.

        For every shit talking Chinese denigrating others and making dubious boasts because they hate themselves, there is at least one other Chinese who is actually deeply proud in their nation’s history and culture. I would not say the same about either Korea right now.

        • wrle

          Every country has people who are shallow and look down on others to feel better about themselves. I didn’t say there were no people like that in korea. Koreans can’t be any more “proud in their nation’s history and culture.” You imply the opposite when in fact in comparison chinese people are following contemporary pop culture of korea and flying over to get surgeries done. Even chinese people are aware of this.

        • Natural Order

          LOL… Your pride is hurt, baby cake?

      • Natural Order

        Plastic surgery is very popular in Korea

    • Xia

      I think the blog post was designed to stir sentiments. Chinese netizens probably only understood “China’s beauty pageant … Korean wins” and switched to rage mode.

    • A Touch of Sin

      I see Chinese uni students do this on a regular basis: don’t say anything, don’t try, then passive aggressively complain about the winner and claim they don’t deserve it or that they somehow deserve it.

  • mr.wiener

    I wonder if the people who sit around trumpeting:”This is an insult to China!!” from their keyboards are waiting around all day trying to find things for China to be offended by?
    As to Miss Campus….pretty yes, but not my cup of cha.

    • terroir

      “waiting around all day trying to find things for China to be offended by”

      Absolutely. How else can one maintain a sense of pride except when it is always under attack by imagined enemies?

  • mr.wiener

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Commanderies_of_Han

    More than 2000 years ago lasting for 400 years and they are still complaining/gloating about it now *tsk*.

    • grand

      you have as much knowledge of asian history as i have of european history.

      the relationship between china and korea was complex. the ancient korean kingdom was established by a chinese noble named jizi nearly 3000 years or so ago after he fled china when shang dynasty was overturned. korea also was part of the chinese tributary system for more than a thousand of years under which chinese emperors were acknoleged as the head of korea and were in charge of korea’s foreign policies.
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gija_Joseon

      japan was also a tributary state of china for much of it’s early histories. the ancient name of japan, wa (yamato, wo), was given by china.
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wa_(Japan)

      • Alex Dương

        korea also was part of the chinese tributary system for more than a thousand of years under which chinese emperors were acknoleged as the
        head of korea and were in charge of korea’s foreign policies.

        Being a part of the tributary system is different than being a part of China.

        Edit

        For example, Vietnam fought very hard throughout much of its history to avoid being a part of China, but it was willing to accept being a part of the tributary system if it meant peace.

        • biggj

          It’s like subjugation…they were still being controlled by them. But different than being a part of china…it’s a thin line though.
          This way is much easier, trying to forcefully integrate another society into your own it’s hard. Keep them separate but together…have your cake and eat it to.

          • Alex Dương

            I absolutely recognize and respect the distinction, however thin it may be. I don’t like it when the distinction is misused in either direction (i.e. to claim that something not Chinese is Chinese, or to claim that something Chinese is not Chinese).

        • George Macartney

          Other examples: The reason for the Zhengtong emperor (Ming dynasty) being captured by the Mongols was that they wanted to pay tribute more often, but Zhengtong would not let them. Various European powers were listed as tributaries to the Qing dynasty, although China clearly had zero power over them.

          • Alex Dương

            The reason for the Zhengtong emperor (Ming dynasty) being captured by
            the Mongols was that they wanted to pay tribute more often, but
            Zhengtong would not let them.

            That’s only part of the story. Another part is that the Mongols increased the number of people who went in each tribute mission, which meant the Ming had to pay more each time in terms of hospitality. And arguably the Zhengtong Emperor was captured because his advisors were so damn incompetent.

  • Guang Xiang

    Trying hard to understand the outrage, but it’s hard to tell without knowing how this pageant work. Perhaps it’s the embarrassment that despite Chinese grossly outnumbering foreigners (assuming this is a nationwide competition), a foreigner won? I can imagine the Korean-fawning males voting her, but what about the female demographic?

    • Gordon Gogodancer

      I can easily imaging Chinese male voting for her and people online shouting that it’s a disgrace

  • Eidolon

    When articles of this sort are posted, a bit of context is helpful. The netizens sound livid that this Korean exchange student won, in which case one is led to believe that they didn’t want her to win. In which case, how did she win? Was the selection process by online popularity/vote, the way it is in a lot of internet pageants? Was it by a panel of judges? Was it by attendees? None of this information is provided and therefore one’s only conclusion is that a Korean exchange student won a Chinese pageant even when the Chinese didn’t want her to win, which is obviously not what happened because that’s not how pageants work.

    • terroir

      Outrage knows no context, only self-righteousness.

      What does it matter if the contestants of this beauty pageant had to recite pi to the 25th decimal place all while wrestling a panda who only wants to sleep? The (selected) comments all show the outrage of a discriminatory public who place national pride over reason, and that’s what we have.

      For sure there’s a clear explanation that isn’t provided here. So in the meantime, all we can do is enjoy the butthurt.

      • Eidolon

        It makes a lot of difference to the discussion in the event that she was actually voted by that same ‘discriminatory public.’ Plenty of people in the US trashed Obama throughout his administration, and were we to listen to those voices, we’d get the impression that the US public is very racist and right-wing. Yet, just the fact that Obama got the presidency in the first place shows that the US public isn’t so racist and right-wing, doesn’t it?

        • terroir

          Yes. Even though he’s not relevant to the discussion, here he is again, getting all up in my grill. Thanks, Obama!

  • Xia

    Nothing but inferiority complex hidden as nationalism.

  • Eric Hill

    hey look, it’s Fan Bing Bing – or maybe just one of her generic-looking plastoid replicants… I really wish Asian women would stop chopping themselves into that featureless, alien baby shape. Oh well, good luck in her studies.

    • Gordon Gogodancer

      As so i sir. The worst part is that most of them (at least where i live in Chengdu) not only look the same but they also look repulsive after their “transformation”. Abnormally big eyes, perfect triangular face shape.
      I know a bar girl who is super hot and has a natural pretty face. Not highly educated but still not your average Chengdu rustic girl. Since she met her Chinese boyfriend she started fucking talking about surgery. I tried to convince her not to fucking destroy herself for the manga fantasy of a dickhead but what can I do…low self-esteem and social group pressure might just get to her.

  • biggj

    These 3 are the winners or what?? That shit has to be rigged. Those girls are not beautiful….average looking at best. See the girls on the left and the right of the pic in the background ????? Those girls hands down beats these 3 ten fold.

    • bzhmaddog

      Chinese taste in beauty are, well like in many other topics (food/music/movies). WEIRD!!! (this is my opinion).

    • Brett

      I’m pretty sure those girls are the paid models that hand out awards. Losers don’t hold microphones.

      • biggj

        Could be. I would like to see the the other finalist….just to compare. The rest were probably on all fours and barking. Thats why we can’t see them haha…..wait a minute….maybe that “scholar dog” a few stories back was a contestant and would have won…..but the dog was “dealt with” ……anything to win i guess.hahaha

      • terroir

        “Losers don’t hold microphones.”

        Yes, we winners be droppin’ dem, yo. You feel me?

    • Ryo Saeba

      Those 2 aren’t prettier. Left one looks quite average with the round face. Right one has a super long face. They look prettier because their hair is down. This only goes to show that long hair (or not tying it up) looks better.

      • wnsk

        I don’t think it’s the hair. Almost everybody looks better from a distance. How many times have you spotted somebody you thought was attractive from a distance only to change your mind once you get a better look up close?

        • Alex Dương

          The acne, man. It burns; IT BURNS.

        • Ryo Saeba

          It’s much worse with Asian girls when looking from behind. Long hair, skinny legs, small waist 9/10! But when they turn around and you see their face, chances are they are below average.

          • Alex Dương

            Not a fan of rounded posteriors?

          • wnsk

            that’s impossible. let me work out the math for you…

            by virtue of definition, there are more “average” girls than “below average” girls. hence, the chances of the girl turning out to be average are a lot higher than her turning out to be below-average. try spinning random girls around on the street or something. if you still get a lot more “below average” girls, then it just means you’re one unlucky bastard.

            another suggestion is to try switching your standards away from “long hair, skinny legs, small waist” –ESPECIALLY if you’re judging from behind. i went by that criteria once, and turned up a couple of guys. now it’s strictly “smooth throat, high voice, vagina” for me.

          • Alex Dương

            smooth throat

            Surprisingly useful.

          • ClausRasmussen

            >> smooth throat

            Plastic surgery can do that for you. My boss with experience from Thailand once advised me to look at their feet instead, too many delicate bones and ligaments there

          • Alex Dương

            Wonder if that can be “cosmetically adapted” too…

          • Ken Morgan

            I once taught a class with a Thai student. Pretty unusual (me teaching this class as I teach maths and economics). After one of the teachers was ill and I just happened to be the only person in the staff room.

            Anyway the topic was health and we were talking about body image. The Thai woman constantly disagreed with me. I asked her about it and she said anything is possible with surgery.

            She showed me on her ipad pictures before and after, also during. There were photos where they had peeled the skin off her skull and used a grinder to reshape it. Same deal with her jaw and also the lower part of her rib cage. They even put filler into her cheeks (the skull) and reshaped the cartilage of her ears. She’d had bum implants and had her poon altered to be tighter too (I was surprised she was showing me these pictures).

            I didn’t really feel hungry at lunch time.

            Carol Cheng a HK TV star had the same things done too. She had so much surgery in Thailand that when she returned to Hong Kong immigration arrested her as they didn’t believe it was her she’s 57 but aside from her skin not looking right looks about 25.

          • Alex Dương

            I suppose honesty beats “I’M 100% NATURAL!!!!111”

          • ClausRasmussen

            Note that I’m not an authority on the issue, but the reason supposedly was that every part of the foot has a function and that if you begin messing around there, the whole thing would collapse

          • Ryo Saeba

            I think only in Thailand where you’ll find guys with long hair, skinny legs, small waist. Ladyboys be everywhere over there! Always check the nuts first before diving in!

          • Ken Morgan

            Nope the best way to check is shoulder/hip ratio and also hands and feet.

            You can’t change the shoulder hip ratio. Hands and feet also can’t be reduced in size by the gross bone breaking tendon reattachment method Chinese do in reverse to be taller. As there are too many tendons and too many delicate muscles that if the surgeon messes up it means you’re disabled for life.

          • Ryo Saeba

            Well, that may work if you were sober but once you have had a few drinks, the nuts is the only way to be sure… Unless they’ve had the full surgery package, then oh well… ignorance is bliss! lol

          • ClausRasmussen

            I would settle on hand and feet as many Chinese women are relatively broad shouldered compared to Western women

          • donscarletti

            If you’re talking about median there are equal number of below average and above average looking girls and between zero and one average looking one.

            If you’re talking about the mean, I would say far more girls are above average than below average looking. This is simply because it’s a slanted distribution since girls can only be so pretty, yet there is no finite bound for ugliness.

          • ClausRasmussen

            lol

      • biggj

        Point is….these 3 chick are borderline ugly.

        • Ryo Saeba

          Attractiveness, of course, is a personal opinion. But the way they are dressed, their hair tied weirdly up, and that retarded hat/bun/shit pile on their head doesn’t help either.

          The regular pictures (although looks highly photoshopped) of the winner looks a lot different from the contest pics.

    • BBMayMay

      if they had their hair down you would think differently

  • Eidolon

    You don’t understand how petty East Asians are. There’ll be people who’ll use this pageant result to bash the Chinese, of that I’m pretty sure. It’s just not worth paying attention to.

  • FYIADragoon

    Milk Tea Girl was already confirmed to be another gold digging whore on the Chinese net……….

    Also seeing a lot of anal pain from them that a Korean lady won.

    • Ryo Saeba

      Honestly, I don’t see anything wrong with gold digging. They can only gold dig when the guys allow them to.

  • biggj

    Why do they always vote for the ones with the body of the 10 year old boy? For fuck sake at least vote for the one with the prettiest face.

    • Zappa Frank

      Asia’s beauty standards…

      • Probotector

        “Why do they always vote for the ones with the body of the 10 year old boy?”

        It worked for Bill Paxton, in True Lies. Some people are just into that shit.

      • tomoe723

        i think it’s more of the idealized fantasy of college girls in China. I found it weird when my Chinese girl friend showed me her idea of what’s pretty. If this contest was won by votes, and I presume only those college students voted, then it’s limited to that standard.

        • Zappa Frank

          well sure, but we cannot deny that the beauty idea of college guys or girls cannot be that far from the general idea of beauty in china. every day I can see plastic surgery advertisements on lifts here in china (and not only on lifts, but for a strange reason lifts are always full of that kind of advertisements) and the girls are more or less like that one (doesn’t help that most clinic are proudly ‘korean’), with some girls that I dare to say are ugly, but apparently are beauty standard here (I should take a picture to show clearly what I mean)

          • tomoe723

            Yah, I suppose the standard will propagate elsewhere sooner or later. But it’s just weird. Because the Chinese boys I knew didn’t have this standard of pretty. They preferred the “sexy” kind of pretty as compared to this homely kind of pretty. So that’s why I think it “originated” from college girl’s idealized notions.

          • Zappa Frank

            I talked about it with some Chinese colleagues and they all told me they prefer the ‘cute’ style of girls (and also that we, foreigners, are simple mind because we prefer hot girls). But, here the interesting thing, they also do like the sexy and hot, only they don’t want to bring home this kind of girls that may disappoint their parents and therefore would prefer a ‘cute’ style…. anyone, I did do a survey on thousands people, just a chat with a few guys..

          • tomoe723

            but the ‘cute’ one didn’t look like this… it resembled more like the milk tea girl or goddess teacher.

            but i wouldn’t be surprised if the standards changed into this, china is easily influenced by japan’s cosmetics, feminine hygiene products, so they’ll be influenced by korea’s other things female related.

    • Gordon Gogodancer

      because if it were the body of a boy older then 10 then she would be bigger then her boyfriend?

  • Zappa Frank

    I really don’t understand beauty standards in Asia. But since in western countries people like lady gaga, Victoria beckham and so on are considered sex symbol I guess I don’t understand western standards either..

    • Alex Dương

      Who do you consider (your own preferences) Asian and Western sex symbols?

      • Zappa Frank

        i consider sex symbol someone like Jessica Alba, Gisele Bundchen, Adriana Lima (two of them are mixed)… i can add some Italians names but i think are unknown.. For the Asian side i really don’t any actress or model that can be comparable, not that there aren’t, simply i don’t know

        • Alex Dương

          I agree all three of those are sex symbols.

        • terroir

          Geez, not enough yellow fever around here.

          Starting with people who have taken their clothes off: Shu Qi, Tang Wei (maybe ten years ago when she did her best work, now she’s let herself go).
          Then for the current crop of ingenues: Maggie Q (typecast after Nikita), Angelababy (for some reason, I’ve never learned her Chinese name), and Lin Zhilin (who is a real-life doe).
          And the group Oil of Olay/even a laowai can name: Maggie Cheung (on a comeback in a band), and Gong Li (among the best things of Miami Vice, if she didn’t speak).

          Then there’s some broad named Fan Bingbing, but she’s always wearing a tablecloth at a film festival gala when she wants to be taken seriously.

          • Zappa Frank

            i didn’t know any of them. but to be sincere, after a quick search, i don’t consider any them to be a “sex symbols” . yes some are cute and beauty, but really nothing so special.. some like Maggie chenung and Maggie q are, in my opinion, not even that beautiful.. also gong li really doesn’t turn on any light on me..

          • terroir

            I guess you watch Chinese movies solely for the story. You poor, miserable bastard.

          • NeverMind

            Google ‘Shu Qi nu..e’ for a better comparison.

      • ClausRasmussen

        >> sex symbols

        I could name a lot of Western women that are sex symbols but not pretty and a lot of Asian women that are very pretty but not sex symbols. It’s like comparing apples and oranges

        http://images.eonline.com/resize/500/500//eol_images/Entire_Site/2013111//reg_600.grndrss.cm.21113.jpg

        • Alex Dương

          Interesting point.

        • donscarletti

          Works either way, try Hsu Chi (舒淇) for example. I haven’t met a single Chinese man who says she’s pretty, nor one that would trade a night with her for one with Fan Bingbing.

          • ClausRasmussen

            Westerners and Asians have different concepts of beauty.

            I find slanted eyes attractive while Chinese prefer them almond shaped; I admire high cheekbones, Chinese loves round faces; (Northern) Chinese protect their white skin while I love the warm golden color some Chinese have; Chinese girls like to be skinny to the point of being underweight, while I want meat or at least a hint of muscle tone etc. etc.

            I’ve heard some Chinese say that Westerners liked the ugly girls, I’m perfectly fine with that lol . Beauty is really a cultural phenomenon

          • donscarletti

            Southern Chinese protect their skin even more, it’s just that it’s not as effective. Chinese like tapered faces (the shape of a melon seed) rather than round faces, but you’re right about them not liking high cheekbones.

            However, I’ve always felt that either the difference in ideal beauty standards is not as profound as Chinese like to believe. It’s mostly based on two misconceptions:
            – Chinese don’t understand that western fashion houses deliberately don’t get models with overly attractive faces.
            – Chinese seeing an expatriate with a local woman will see her face and think that’s what he and other westerners want, without looking below the neck and seeing what he was really after.

            Before WWII, the western standard of beauty was also skinny pale girls. I’ve personally always liked skinny pale girls. I would also say that if you’re looking for a woman that you will still want to jump on top of every day at 55 after she’s had a few kids, this is your best option. Skinny girls rarely get fat and pale girls rarely get leathery. People say that Asian beauty fades slower, but it works just as well for white girls Asian men find attractive.

          • Eidolon

            I think the takeaway is rather that beauty standards are subject to change. Western standards were different a century ago than they are today. Chinese standards are also different; just the fact that bound feet used to be considered sexy in China says it all.

    • Gordon Gogodancer

      Not from where i’m from

      • Alex Dương

        Is Eva Green considered a sex symbol in France?

        • Gordon Gogodancer

          I just looked her up, i didn’t know her name…i check out a few of her photos…i wouldn’t say that she’s a sex symbol, but i guess she’s alright looking.

          • Alex Dương

            You never saw Casino Royale back in 2006 or any time afterward?

          • Gordon Gogodancer

            I do recognize her face and yes i’ve seen Casino Royale…i just didn’t know her name

          • Alex Dương

            So who are currently considered female sex symbols in France?

          • Zappa Frank

            Letitia casta?… Carla Bruni ahahahah

          • Gordon Gogodancer

            lol

          • Alex Dương

            I’ve heard of Bruni in the media as Sarkozy’s wife. Never heard of Casta, though, but I can agree with that.

          • Gordon Gogodancer

            so what’s your opinion of her? Do you think she’s beautiful? A sex symbol?

          • Alex Dương

            In my book, yes and yes.

        • plorf

          I like Eva Green, though she’s not a classic beauty her looks certainly appeal (to me).

    • biggj

      Do guys think Lady gaga is hot??I would not call her sexy…I would call her sexual.And shit, i’ve met crack heads in better shape than Victoria Beckham. I know everyone like different things…. but people who think these girls are pretty the majority? Can’t be….

      • Zappa Frank

        well i guess someone like them, or you think people listen their “music”? it’s like Madonna, someone must had liked her…but no one want to admit it..

  • lacompacida

    Love to see how classy the Chinese commentators are, all showing off their cultural tradition in spades.

  • Gordon Gogodancer

    “No boobs!”, the only reasonable Chinese comment so far

    • terroir

      Yes. Statements that also serve as complaints are always reasonable.

      • Irvin

        Women are the most reasonable creatures on earth.

        • terroir

          That’s why men marry them for emotional reasons.

        • biggj

          False. :) I think you forgot to put “un” in front of reasonable.

          • Irvin

            I’m just saying they like to make statements that also serve as complains.

  • biggj

    This guy has an honest chance of winning against these girls….Fuck that is funny haha

    • Gordon Gogodancer

      sick!

      • biggj

        Sorry I just woke up. lol

    • linette lee

      hahaha…lol you are always so funny. LOL

  • Balkan

    My dear China, why even this has to be political?

    • Gordon Gogodancer

      Because you see paintings of happy red star tanks alongside with flowers and cheerful children in kinder gartens of course!

  • terroir

    This isn’t “ice cream girl”; this is “Sister Ice Cream”. This title brings her into your family as a trusted and familiar person (notwithstanding what some folks may want to treat her…)

    Even going by cS standards, dozens are references are made to “Brothers”, be they “Brother Noodle” or “Brother Lean” or whatever.

    Let’s keep it Chinese, and keep it in the family.

    • Joe

      no its intended to play off milk tea girl

      • terroir

        “Milk tea girl” trumps your “ice cream girl” with two “sisters” in her name.

        Joe, there’s a long tradition of cS to employ the family header to address internet characters. For example, you would be “Brother No-Family Caller”.

        • Joe

          Again its based on the usage of “milk tea girl” that we translated previously, just like how chopstick brothers is not brother chopsticks. since I’ve been at cS since its inception I would be a better judge of whatever “long tradition” you speak of.

          • terroir

            Seriously: are you breaking out the seniority at the same time you’re referencing a story less than a year old?

            Look at us, fighting like the Brothers chinaSMACK.

          • Joe

            umm I’m just pointing out there is not fast rule with it comes to translating personalities, green dam girl is not girl/sister green dam, it wouldn’t make sense

          • terroir

            Hey Bro Joe, just letting you know that I’m not trying to be harsh with you. But yes, there is a reason why “Sister Green Dam” (that’s a thing) makes sense.

            The entire societal construct of China is based on the family unit. When trying to show friendliness, Chinese will bring people into the family (like calling Chinese President Xi as “Uncle Xi”). (on the other hand, if a Chinese calls you “pengyou”, watch out)

            Sister Ice Cream or whomever makes sense because you’re giving them the respect, and using the culture of China as context. You can leave it out, but then you’re leaving out the real meaning of the title.

            These laowai can take it, give ’em a try.

          • Joe

            Yes, the issues here is making it clearly understandable, as far as I know Chinese filial honorifics does not exist in English unlike Chan or Kun in Japanese. Likewise, Chinese people calls XJP, Xi Dada, which should it be big xi or xi bigbig? you decide.

          • terroir

            “Dada” is a family honorific (thank you!) meaning uncle as a child would say it.

            Again, this is important because Chinese are openly adopting their Chairman as part of the family, something kind of important considering the guy is starting to establish a cult of personality around him, what with the power he wields.

            Harmony for all: I haven’t checked, but isn’t this in the database? Use it, and then just link to it.

          • Joe

            I think you are too focused on the socially constructed aspect of translations, such cases do not apply to all instances. This of course is a issue of the english language where seniority doesn’t really exist. For example, sister feng and milk tea girl (or sister milk tea if you want to call her) holds very different meanings, one being exclusive and one being inclusive, also the term 妹子 refers to a girl not sister in real life

          • terroir

            “This of course is a issue of the english language where seniority doesn’t really exist.”

            That’s so weird; you just tried to assert yours not two comments ago.

          • Joe

            Again you missed my point (or you didn’t), I was saying the notion of sister as in jie jie and mei mei holds no distinction in English, hence sister feng or sister milk tea have different meanings to Chinese people. All I am saying is that the uses of brother or sister for online personalities do not all conform to filial inclusiveness as you put it, which is why there is no hard rule regarding its translation.

  • SuperLaowai

    Korea has better surgeons and higher quality cosmetics, period.

    • wrle

      Before you judge, you should know the Chinese make up the largest number of plastic surgery tourists to Korea every year. There are hospitals in Korea catering just for Chinese clients. They do more surgery in korea than koreans.

      • jin

        Before you say that, you should know that the Chinese outnumber the Korean by a large huge enormous gigantic difference.

        • wrle

          Thats because majority of chinese people can’t afford it. If you go to shanghai and Beijing, pretty much every female has done some sort of procedure, many who went to korea to do it. If you go to myeongdong or apgujeong in seoul, there are chinese tourists everywhere walking around with bandages on their faces and doing shopping. In china there are plastic surgery hospitals with chinese models dressed in the hanbok and jibberish korean to advertise themselves. So you’re not really getting the point. Koreans don’t go to china to get plastic surgeries. What does that say about the beauty standards and self image of chinese people?

          • Eidolon

            Statistics are normally required when making such assertions. ‘Pretty much every female in Shanghai and Beijing has done soem sort of procedure?’ I call bullshit. You need to remember that there are plenty of people on this website who visit China frequently. Shanghai and Beijing have plenty of poor and ugly people.

          • Xman2014

            Chinese statistics on anything is as reliable as your local used car salesman. The statistics in Korea don’t lie. Most of the foreign plastic surgery patients in Korea comes from China. There are so many of them (China having the largest population in the world does have something to do with it), the local surgery clinics have to write letters for their patients to take home, so that they can present them to the Chinese immigration officials who have tough time matching Chinese passport pictures with the Chinese plastic surgery tourist coming back home from Korea. If you ever see people walking around in bandages to their faces in Korea, it’s certainly Chinese. Koreans who do surgery, go home right away to rest before they’re seen. The Chinese do their surgery, but don’t want to miss doing the touring and the shopping before they have to go home.

          • Eidolon

            “Statistics in Korea don’t lie.” Why not? Why are you so sure Chinese statistics are unreliable but Korean statistics are infallible? That is the first sign that you are biased. The second sign is that you didn’t actually read. I took issue with wrle’s statement that ‘everyone in Shanghai / Beijing has plastic surgery.’ You, on the other hand, responded to a strawman about plastic surgery patients in Korea, which jin above has in fact already responded to – even were it the case that most surgery patients in Korea were Chinese, the fact that China has 26x the population of Korea states that less % of Chinese are getting plastic surgery per year than Koreans. Indeed, the ‘statistics’ bear this out: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-UU7yS8PIrv0/UFDqMQyPDlI/AAAAAAAAA24/BXAXRMFoHEQ/s1600/per-capita-plastic-surgery.png, such that even were it the case that 75% of the Korean procedures in that graph were assigned to Chinese, Korea would still top China in per capita plastic surgery.

          • wrle

            Same thing can be said to those people who generalize Koreans.

          • jin

            “you should know the Chinese make up the largest number of plastic surgery tourists to Korea every year.”

            I was replying to this, you’re FULL of assumptions.

    • Guest

      pretty sure korean surgeons work with as much or even more chinese people than koreans lmfao

  • Irvin

    I’m surprised so many people gives a fuck, it’s just another girl in another pointless competition.

    • biggj

      BUT SHE’S A FUCKING KOREAN!!!!!! WINNING A CHINESE UNIVERSITY FUCKING THING!!!!!!FUCKING KOREA!!!! IM CHOKING ON MY OWN RAGE HERE!!! AAAGHGHGHGHHH!!!!!!!

  • biggj

    This is almost as bad as a black girl winning miss KKK.

    • mr.wiener

      Could happen. There are offshoots of the KKK that are taking Blacks, Jews and Hispanics.

      • UserID01

        Seriously? Some Klan offshoots are accepting Blacks? Am I right to expect real life Clayton Bigsby in the near future?

        • mr.wiener

          You couldn’t make this shit up…

  • Jahar

    Some things we gotta keep in mind. One, people had to enter the contest. There weren’t thousands of experts scouring the country to choose, and second, these things can’t just be judged by photos. Especially considering that’s now how the judges would do it.

    • biggj

      I was trying to find a pic of the other contestants just to see a comparison. And as I was reading they say 10,000 girls from 100 universities and 80 cities sign up for it. And these 3 girls are the best??? ouch.

      I think these 3 have the richest families maybe…that’s why they won.

      In a dick sucking contest maybe these 3 could be finalist…..but not in beauty.

      • Jahar

        but. let’s just compare her to the other two…. of course she wins.

      • Jahar

        The hottest of the hot never sign up for this shit. Their looks have always gotten them everything they want. They don’t need the validation either.

  • Marcus Black

    China is like a pedophile’s wonderland. Grown women with the face and probably body of a prepubescent girl. I now understand why European and American males flock to China in droves *cheeky grin*

    • jin

      That would be thailand Philippines cambodia, where child prostitution is strong.

      • plorf

        You’re a bit late to the party, try that today in any of those countries and you’ll more likely than not land in jail. It first shifted from Thailand to Laos and Cambodia, but for the last 10 years or so that increasingly got a dangerous affair for foreign Pedos, and many, many Westerners rot in jail for trying to this day.

        Doesn’t mean that it’s inexistent today, but all these countries have made huge progress in fighting it, fortunately.

        • jin

          And how would you know that? try that in China then lol.

    • 42

      Oh no you would rather grind up woman who is wrinkled up like a grandma at 35 years old?

  • Xio Gen

    How do they not even know their own country? First of all, Li is very cute. Second, do none of them know about Liaoning Province and the ethnic Koreans there? It’s even called “the third Korea” ffs.

    • Xman2014

      Yanbian Autonomous Prefecture. I believe the Korean population there that used to be over 2 million, is now no longer, as many as a million of them have migrated to South Korea. As of 2006, only 33% of the prefecture were ethnically Korean, with Han Chinese making 64%. Eight years later, there’s probably even less number of ethnic Koreans remaining there . The Chinese government in the recent past have hinted at scrapping the autonomous nature since ethnic Koreans are no longer a big part of the prefecture anymore.

  • Amused

    All this hate, when the male commenters all know they’d hit it, and the female ones just wish they weren’t so damn ugly.

  • Small twon

    You go there , I will “entertain” your share of ladies here.

    • Irvin

      which is zero, it was -1 before he left.

  • Ken Morgan

    Well I wouldn’t kick her out of bed on a cold winter night

  • Willie Nailer

    You guys DO know what racist is , right? And , that it’s a BAD thing?

    • jin

      No but I do know that you’re a racist when you embrace racism.

  • wnsk

    was gonna say something about Koreans and their straight eyebrows, but then i thought better. de gustibus non est disputandum!

  • Xia

    How would these Chinese netizens react, if they knew foreigners would read this and whom foreigners actually look down upon?

  • yurah

    Their reaction is very similar to when Miss America was awarded to an Indian looking girl

  • So many salty betas in the comment section

  • biggj

    Business on the left, party on the right. lol

  • Xman2014

    She would have been far more attractive if she didn’t allow the Chinese makeup artists to do her makeup with Chinese style makeup. Drawing big mascaras a big no no, and the hairstyle and clothes definitely not Korean. Chinese tend to ape things Koreans but will never admit it, which explains all the racist comments by Chinese commentators. For example, look at this Chinese snack on sale in China, masquerading as a South Korean snack (the gibberish Korean writing gives it away as fake, there’s no such Korean snack).

    http://i2.media.daumcdn.net/svc/image/U03/news/201411/21/kukinews/20141121020815949.jpeg

    I guess ethnic Koreans in China, born in China and who lived in China for over a century, aren’t still accepted as Chinese, unlike what my Chinese friends have told me. Now I know better. So much for Chinese bragging that they are a nation of 56 different ethnics. It’s a nation of 55 different ethnic slaves, and one Han Chinese master.

    • Eidolon

      Not an ethnic Korean born in China. Besides which, Korea has little room to talk in this regard, given the backlash against people eg Jasmine Lee.

      • Xman2014

        Korea doesn’t claim and pretend that it’s a multi-ethnic state, like China does. How about Korean KPOP girl Victoria Song of girl group Miss-A, and whole slew of Chinese performers in the Kpop industry in Korea? None of them got flack for being Chinese. There were no calls to kick them out and no-one say they don’t deserve to perform in Korea because they are Chinese. They’re just as popular as any Korean performers. As a Chinese, how would you fee if Koreans say the same things?

        • Eidolon

          Multi-ethnic is different from multi-national. She’s not a Chinese national. She’s an exchange student. I know very well how ‘foreigners’ are treated in China because I am one. But the xenophobia is no different from what exists in Korea and Japan. In the case of Jasmine Lee, she is a Korean national but still gets discriminated. I find that even worse than xenophobia, because it is literally racist.

          • Xman2014

            How’s Jasmine Lee getting discriminated? She got elected as a government rep and still serving as one. Are you referring to a few Koreans commenting badly about her on the internet? Are you aware she has come out on TV that far more Koreans have come out with comments supporting her, then the other way around? Were there any Chinese comments supporting this Korean girl?

            Few questions for you, since you’re Chinese. Can a foreigner take Chinese citizenship and then get posted into Chinese government office? No you say? But if theoretically if this was ever allowed to happen, I would like to see how Chinese internet would have reacted if another person like Jasmine Lee from the Philippines got posted into the local government leader post in China.

            But anyway, I find your conclusion that since Korea is racist against a Filipina ethinic, it’s only fair for the Chinese netizens to dump on the Gaoli Banze girl. Very interesting and defensive.

          • Eidolon

            Let me turn that question back at you – if Chinese were really so against a Korean girl winning, how did she win? It’s not though her identity was secret, and the way in which pageants work, there is normally a selection process that is based on votes, either from a panel or the public. Obviously, Chinese panelists/students must have ‘elected’ her to win, regardless of a ‘few Chinese’ commenting badly about her on the internet. Given that this girl, judging by the final photo, advertises her Korean identity, it would be foolish to say that ‘far more’ of Chinese hate her, because in that sort of environment she’d have never become popular, and therefore never have won.

            Besides which, I am not Chinese, and I don’t recall saying that it’s ‘fair’ that Chinese netizens dumped on the Korean girl. But I am rather familiar with hypocrisy and how East Asians jump to the defense of their own while making excuses when it happens the other way around. I brought up Jasmine Lee because I consider it to be a worse case of ethnic/racial discrimination than a handful of loud Chinese netizens getting their panties in a wad about a Korean national who won a *Chinese* pageant voted on by *Chinese* panelists/audiences. The latter sentiment is protectionist/xenophobic/nationalist, but the former is worse because Mrs. Lee is a Korean national and therefore ought to be treated no different from any other Korean.

            As for your question about foreigners naturalizing in China – the process exists, but we don’t need to go that far. There are, in fact, ethnic Koreans living in China, both as Joseonjok and as North Korean refugees. Joseonjok ie Chinese nationals of Korean ethnicity have held high positions within the Chinese government. An example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhao_Nanqi. The same goes for other minorities. To say that China has, therefore, less discrimination would be a stretch. But to say that Koreans and Japanese are less xenophobic/racist is also a stretch. All are guilty of the same sort of prejudice, and it’s less productive to whine about other people’s garbage than to take care of your own, because ultimately nobody’s going to change as long as they see others doing the same.

      • Guest

        Can you, as a Chinese poster, enlighten me on exactly why some Chinese netizens seem to feel such hostility and hatred for the Koreans? Why do they make up lies like the “Koreans claim Jesus was Korean” or “Koreans claim they invented this” and spread it online when they know it’s a lie? Why make up lies about Koreans supposedly beating a Chinese girl up at a KFC, when it was in fact 4 Chinese people who were arrested for beating her up? http://www.chinasmack.com/2012/videos/chinese-girls-beat-up-by-suspected-korean-men-in-chengdu-kfc.html&sa=U&ei=wyJ9VObIDoTEPK7zgfAF&ved=0CBIQFjAG&client=internal-uds-cse&usg=AFQjCNG40zeQnCkuPl7WIElbst2w1gUKCw Why express hatred and racial slurs like “bangzi” over something as irrelevant as a beauty pageant? Why did they greatly exaggerate or more likely, LIE, about the Nanjing Youth Olympic Games incident where they sent death threats to a 12 year old South Korean kid and the ENTIRE country of South Korea for that kid allegedly pointing a laser pointer at a top ranking Chinese official. http://www.chinasmack.com/2014/stories/korean-laser-pointer-incident-nanjing-youth-olympics.html&sa=U&ei=_CJ9VLv5B8SqPPbYgLgF&ved=0CAYQFjAA&client=internal-uds-cse&usg=AFQjCNHau5CpwHvdhgzk2UnnTH7SiGK_hg
        If anything, it honestly should be the South Koreans that hold grudges against the Chinese, as China is the primary reason why North Korea still exists. China absolutely refuses to stop supporting North Korea, and China is responsible for the suffering of the people there. It seems to be that the Chinese netizens constantly make fun of North Korea, but they never go that step further and condemn their own country for being the ONLY reason why North Korea even exists. Do the Chinese netizens have the ability to be introspective and reflective about their country and their extreme nationalism?

        • Eidolon

          I am not a Chinese poster, but the answer to your first question is – because it’s easy for rumors to spread online, and because not all such rumors are baseless accusations against innocent Koreans. I don’t know about Koreans claiming Jesus, but they did, in fact, claim that Confuciusm, various Chinese emperors, Daoism, Chinese writing, Chinese medicine, Chinese folk culture, Chinese symbols, all Chinese territory above the Yangtze River, and so on so forth were ‘Korean.’ I’m not making this up. Do a search on the Korean internet and you’ll find the examples.

          The answer to your second is that Chinese love to use racial slurs. Koreans are regularly called ‘bangzi.’ Westerners are regularly called ‘laowai.’ Japanese are regularly called ‘xiaoriben’ and ‘ribenguizi.’ The concept of political correctness with regards to slurs does not exist in China and there are no regulations against it, hence its widespread usage.

          The answer to your third question is a simple no. Chinese nationalists are not introspective/reflective about their extreme nationalism. But the same is the case for Korean and Japanese nationalists. You want to me to direct you to examples of extreme Korean nationalism, there are plenty of those to go around. Pointing fingers in East Asia is in general useless because everyone engages in the same behavior. To which end, let me turn that question back at you: are Korean nationalists any different in how they act? If you believe so, then I reckon you are just as incapable of introspection and reflection as those you accuse.

  • Xman2014

    For all you dorks who insist on bringing up Korean plastic surgery because of this girl (which is probably unfair to her, since she’s not even South Korean, but a Chinese national passport holder, born in China), watch this funny Chinese news about Chinese plastic surgery industry growing by 40% per year – look at all the Chinese plastic surgery clinics using Chinese models wearing Korean hanbok dress, and using gibberish Korean writings to advertise their plastic surgery hospitals (as if that’s going to up their reputation… this is just hilarious).

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hCEVMP8BUY

    • wrle

      says alot about “chinese” beauty standards.

    • donscarletti

      Really? The article makes it pretty clear that she’s a national of the Republic of Korea, since it uses the term 韩国, short for 大韩民国 (RoK) and not of the Korean ethnic group 朝鲜族.

      • Xman2014

        Really? I thought she was born in China, since she didn’t look like a South Korean (probably due to the makeup, hairstyle, the dress, etc).
        Where’s the biography on her?

        So how come she still has single eye lids if she had surgery? (look at the third picture from the most bottom pic). The last photo in the bottom clearly shows she has an attractive face, without all that ridiculous gunk on her face. She would be a stunner if she laid her hair down too, instead of rolling it up in Chinese style bun.

        • Joe

          according to Chinese media, she is an exchange student from South Korea. I believe she is in Korean press as well but I don’t know her Korean name.

          • Xman2014

            If it’s in Korean press, I haven’t seen it. But I like to know her bio, to see how long she’s been in China. Sounds like she went native.

        • Eidolon

          Are you not aware that Koreans also traditionally rolled their hair up into a bun? See for example: http://www.sonjjang-hanbok.com/sonjjang/accessary/hair/dongyichupji2.jpg

          • Xman2014

            Eidolon, maybe Korean grandmothers 100’s of years ago used to do that, just like how it was shown in those set period costumes.

        • Guest

          she looks pretty south korean to me

      • ClausRasmussen

        The sign she is holding up in one of the pics also says “韩国”

    • 丢你二

      我楼房电梯里面的广告五成整容,目前放着一个,女生脸好大,大头旁边写的“我来自韩国”

    • chucky3176

      Interesting… 1:44 and 1:55 of the video. What’s more offensive – is Chinese constantly put down Korean appearances as fake, yet they’ll do anything to achieve the same look. What do you call this double standardness?

      • Alex Dương

        Hypocrisy.

  • Kochigachi

    Who cares this was Miss University not Miss Universe, beside look at these two Chinese girls, they don’t even look Chinese at all. It seems Chinese can not have enough with NE Asian looks.

    • Eidolon

      I fail to see how you are an expert on Chinese looks, consoleman. Bored at KKKoreansentry already?

  • lonetrey / Dan

    Hmm. Is it just me or did her face get a more chubbier in the first few photos in comparison with the following photos?

    Still cute in all photos though!

    • Xman2014

      Easy explanation.

      Photochopped.

      They do the same thing in Korea too, especially in beauty pageants – makes their faces look unnatural. The more Chinese people make fun of Koreans for manipulating unnatural beauty, the harder they try copying the very things that Chinese put down Koreans for. It’s pretty sad and ironic, really.

  • kaizenmx

    For a country that is huge with many populations, 99% of these people are petty and has inferiority complex of a teenager.

  • UserID01

    The incredible amount of rectal clenching going on by these netizens over something so astronomically insignificant as to whether “Miss Campus” is ethnically Chinese or not is baffling. It’s hard to imagine just one person giving an actual single fuck about this. The fact that several seemed to be genuinely upset is mind blowing.

  • 42

    In China a korean girl can win a miss pageant contest. Don’t see this happening in the United States though. China the place where dreams come true!

    • Xman2014

      Don’t get ahead of yourself. It was some two bit pageant for local schools. This isn’t the international beauty pageant.

  • 42

    Apple is all looks, no substance….

  • 42

    that world is liza minellis home….

  • Rafasa Arandas

    Who do you guys prefer? Chinese or Korean girls?

  • Mike S

    How come all korean girls have very similar features?

  • Kiiro .

    These guys saying she’s not pretty.. not one of the would reject her given the chance to be her boyfriend.

  • Karze

    Beauty is skin deep. There is other qualities such as personality, character etc. May be she won not by just her face.

  • Why China?

    Han-Chinese are not only Chinese, China. You have Manchus, Tibetans, Chinese-Koreans, and other nations. She is Chinese. Deal with it.

  • Korean1Wizard1

    Korean woman being prettier than average Chinese girls is more accepted in China.. I really cannot blame them………. even in Korea think the same way.