British Man Helps Chinese Homeless in Xi’an, Netizen Reactions

Tony and some of other foreign volunteers.

From NetEase:

British Engineer Sells Possessions and Came to China to Hand Out Steamed Buns to the Homeless

A British engineer sold 3 companies, a mansion, 2 sports cars, and came to Xi’an, China to hand out steamed stuffed buns to the homeless. Like that, 7 years have passed.

Tony and his crew are offering food to people.

46-year-old Tony was an electronics engineer in the the UK’s Royal Navy. After he retired from the military, he opened 3 companies, owned a mansion and 2 sports cars. Tony says, one day in 2002, he suddenly began to get weary of his busy life, and decided to sell his companies, his mansion and his cars, leave the UK, and travel around the world.

The homeless people.

In 2005, Tony founded the “Yellow River Soup Kitchen” in Xi’an. Tony says “Yellow River Soup Kitchen” has two goals: providing help to those who need help, and providing a platform for people to help others. The handing out of steamed stuffed buns has gone from 1 day every week to 3 days every week. “Some people say I shouldn’t help them (the homeless people), that they have houses and cars in their hometowns.” Tony says, “We don’t go judge who is real and who is fake. The truth after all is that most homeless people are real, we can help them, and that’s what gives what we do meaning…” Tony also uses a Chinese idiom “瑕不掩瑜” [xia bu yuan yu, one flaw does not obscure the splendor of the jade, the pros outweigh the cons] to describe this issue.

Tony's house is filled with donated clothes.

“People always encourage them (the homeless people) to go work…” but Tony disagrees. “Every person’s ability is different, for example handicapped people, old people, and people with mental problems. They (the homeless people) don’t have a choice. And there are also some people who don’t want to change for the moment. So, let them be. Our job is to just offer them service.” This picture is of June 27, Xi’an, where clothes donated by charitable people have filled a room. Tony says, they give them out regularly.

Tony is talking with a homelss person.

Tony says, homeless people don’t have a sense of security, so to newly arrived volunteers, they would explain to them not to ask why they beg, why not go work, etc. “We should first respect their right to choose this kind of life. People have the rights to choose how they live.” At present, their services have already expanded to providing the homeless haircuts, baths, giving out clothes, and giving out blankets.

Tony has box meal or Chinese hamburgers for each meal.

This picture is of Tony himself having boxed meals or “Chinese hamburgers” [usually a baked bun with meat or vegetables placed between, but different from a steamed stuffed bun] for every meal.

Tony is contacting the shopkeeper who sells steam stuffed buns.

This picture is of Tony contacting the shopkeeper who sells steamed stuffed buns, telling him the number of steamed stuffed buns to deliver.

The fancy cars and mansion Tony used to own.

This picture is of the photo stored in Tony’s cell phone showing the fancy cars and mansion he used to own.

Tony and some of the foreign volunteers.

This picture is of Tony taking a group photo with some of the foreign volunteers.

Tony and the shopkeeper who sells steam stuffed buns.

This picture is of Tony and the shopkeeper who sells steamed stuffed buns having also become good friends.

A homeless guy is showing his gratitude to Tony.

A homeless man showing his gratitude to Tony.

Tony is on his way home.

Every time after he finishes giving out the steamed stuffed buns, Tony walks 15 minutes to a bus station and catches a bus to return to the place he lives.

Comments from NetEase:

我们养的猪还少吗 [网易广东省东莞市网友]:

A single meat bun and you guys are moved like somebody’s grandchildren [so impressed]. Real promising [sarcasm, more like "pathetic"]!

我们养的猪还少吗 [网易广东省东莞市网友]: (responding to himself)

This nation’s people needs to be cured!

荒狂之风 [网易吉林省长春市网友]: (responding to above)

Please look carefully, it’s been 7 years!
Tony is much greater than you, please behave yourself!

隐逸0 [网易河南省郑州市网友]: (also responding to 我们养的猪还少吗)

7 years for one steamed stuffed bun, you SB have probably eaten his steamed stuffed buns and forgotten him.

芙小小仙子 [网易四川省成都市网友]:

If the steamed stuffed buns were given to the Red Cross to give out, giving out each one would cost 10 yuan, and who knows if the Red Cross would think there was too little money/profit in it [for them]?

[Note: Public trust in China's Red Cross has been very poor over a variety of scandals in recent years over possible misuse of donations and general corruption.]

专业杀西瓜 [网易广东省东莞市网友]:

This laowai deserves everyone’s respect, ding this up, the work he’s doing is even more practical and real than what a nation [the government] does, even 1,000x better than that No.1 philanthropist… those who agree, ding this up… those who have humanity, ding this up.

81点net [网易北京市网友]:

Civil servants, where are you? The Red Cross, where are you?

芙小小仙子 [网易四川省成都市网友]:

Salute.

荒狂之风 [网易吉林省长春市网友]:

The Bethune of today! Thank you!

我们养的猪还少吗 [网易广东省东莞市网友]:

The second picture, is the young man also a homeless person?!

Comments from Sina Weibo:

佳佳爱种花哦:

This may not be a good thing to do.

雪山包包包包:

I truly hope the government doesn’t involve itself in this, and not ruin a good thing~ Thanking on my knees. [鼓掌]

HeavyInfantry:

If one day there are protests against the UK, I dare say he’d still be beaten bloody by the patriotic traitors and patriotic shitty youth, kneeling on the ground yelling: Good people spare me!

[Note: This comment alludes to the incidents of mob violence during protests in China following Japan's purchase and nationalization of the disputed Diaoyu/Senkaku islands.]

_狐狸兽:

It is better to teach one how to fish than to give him one…

胖嘟嘟的袋鼠:

This compared to what I saw yesterday about a certain city locking up its beggars in cages to improve its city image is simply a night and day difference…

脸颊残存你的吻–刘银:

What homeless people…they have arms and legs, [but] they don’t do a damn thing all day except sleep. I don’t have time to do anything for this kind of people, talk about having nothing better to do, If I have money, I’d give it to the children in impoverished mountain areas, and not people like them.

吴广寻陈胜:

The Party’s education will never produce this kind of people. Instead there would be a Chen Guangbiao, but he cares about politics more than he cares about poor people. If one day our ordinary common people stopped protesting against foreign governments, and used the enthusiasm we have criticizing Japanese devils and American imperialists to criticize our own government, then our nation would be truly civilized.

Is丶阿有-UR:

China has so much money, gives it foreigners, and then one of their morons comes over to help the poor here, so laughable!

IT民工蒋勇:

People who have faith/religion are just different, their hearts always want to do good things, while many people just want to gain without laboring.

nannanzhupp:

While Chinese are beating, vandalizing, and robbing their own compatriots, take a good look at what a friendly foreigner is doing.

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  • blah

    The Chinese comments are reliably disgusting

    • blah

      so fa king predictable

    • Kukuku

      Predictable, but I’d say it doesn’t matter. The people he helps and those around him can appreciate what he does and this is what matters.

    • Boris

      Tony,
      You’re the man. Having been a Cardboard City kid myself, I’ve benefited beyond measure from the help of kindly folks like you. I wanted to organise something like this where I live too, but I’ve never been sure how to get it underway, or if I’d upset the authorities. Anyway, you show it can be done. Inspiring work. Keep it up!

    • mr. wiener

      A lot of the comments were very favorable I thought. I was pleasantly surprised.

      • http://www.chinasmack.com Fauna

        Most of the comments are favorable, some of the comments express the normal worry about if the homeless are real or fake. The comments for these kind of stories are usually this way. Why pleasantly surprised?

        • mr. wiener

          Considering the way things are at the moment I was afraid that many comments would be along the lines of foreigners are just losing China’s face by pointing out the problem with it’s poor, Foreigners are looking down on China etc.
          Patriotism is often the last refuge of fools and scoundrels and the way some crazies have been crawling out of the woodwork lately I was almost expecting some netizins to accuse him of attaching GPS devices to these poor people.
          I wasn’t trying to say the majority of Chinese are like these oafs, I was rebuting the statement that these comments [negative] are predictable of Chinese people. Sorry if you got the impression I habitualy expect the worse from the Chinese comments section.

        • https://acrossthetasman.com/forum.php 山炮 ShanPao

          give it a rest fauna, you used to be the editor. Now you became the troll. so unprofessional.

          • Ray

            Shes not trolling, shes just giving her opinion….

            Well it does seem that she has become more active recently, maybe its part due to the patriotism being shared around with the anti-jap protest and the anti-china HKer’s protest.

          • anon

            Wow, a troll calls Fauna a troll for kindly responding to a comment and asking a question on her own website. Will wonders never cease?

          • cc

            Or moderates people for no reason other than some tosspot spouting his secret love for someone.

        • http://500px.com/whiskersthecat whiskersthecat

          So defensive.

        • vince

          Is that a rhetorical question?

        • kodi

          Its kind of disgusting when everything is faked to the point that people worry about if the homeless are authentic.

      • The Enlightened One

        I , as well. I wasn’t really surprised. I was just happy that they said what they were really thinking rather than resorting to nationalistic anti-foreign comments.

        • tai wai

          Yeah. Just comments bashing homeless people, those that help homeless people, and the government for, um, not helping homeless people.

          The rest seemed like human beings.

        • kodi

          well being poor in China is like being born with the black plague or aids. Its not virtuous to be poor because that means you are unlucky and no use to others who wish to use “guanxi” with you in order to make money. Those poor are often even accused of being fake poor! HAHA fuck! What luck they have being born here.

          • tai wai

            China looks down on poor people, and not prostitutes.

            That says something.

          • kodi

            Yeah I got that Tai Wai! I had a girlfriend who was like, “Make money at all costs! I don’t care what you do.” I was a little surprised that a society that seems bent on keeping order and peace on the outside can hide such ideas about getting rich to the point that if it will make you rich then it must be ok. People look up to the rich powerful mob boss who hurts and exploits people, but look down on the poor craftsman who is actually contributing to the culture of a society.

            Get rich at all costs! Why don’t Chinese view cheating as cheating? http://cleverchinacheaters.blogspot.com

          • tai wai

            I had a girlfriend who was like, “Make money at all costs! I don’t care what you do.”

            I’m lucky. My wife grew up Christian.

            So she’s just, like, 50/50 “make money at all costs” versus “yeah, but that doesn’t fill your soul up.”

            She just wants a small house in the country at this point.

    • Rico

      I agree. I thought this would be the first story to have near unanimous support, but once again I was dismayed to find that these little fucks find something wrong with everything in the world. After I saw the one about “Chinese government has so much money but sending a moron over to help..” I just lost all hope for humanity. Fuck these whiney netizens.

      • http://www.chinasmack.com Fauna

        I think there is a misunderstanding about that comment and I have edited the translation which I hope will be more clear.

        Original: China has so much money, gives it foreigners, and then they send a moron over to help the poor here, so laughable!

        Revised: China has so much money, gives it foreigners, and then one of their morons comes over to help the poor here, so laughable!

        That netizen is complaining that the Chinese government should use government money to improve this domestic problem instead of giving it to other countries. I do not think this is an unusual opinion.

        Peter translate 一个脑袋坏掉 as “moron” which I think is an acceptable translation but it just means “someone with a broken brain”. Why does this netizen say this? Because he believes it is foolish that this man does not care if he is helping true homeless or fake homeless. Many people in this world believe most homeless people need to stop being lazy.

        So this netizen just thinks the entire situation is ridiculous, just like many foreigners think it is ridiculous or they would be morons to give money to Chinese beggars who may be fake beggars and when the Chinese government has money to buy Audis and host expensive Olympics and should take care of their people first.

        • Getrealson

          but he is still calling a philanthropist a moron!

          • anon

            As she tried to explain, that Chinese commenter is calling him a moron because he doesn’t automatically judge him as a philanthropist as you do. He sees him as doing something foolish just like plenty of people think it is foolish to give money to panhandlers.

            What was it that Fauna said in the last post? That people have reasons for what they say but it still doesn’t justify the stupid things they say? This is one of those cases. To us, this Chinese netizen isn’t justified in calling Tony a moron, but Fauna has given you the likely reasons for why he did so. You don’t have to agree with the guy, but it doesn’t hurt to acknowledge that there’s more to it than just blind malice. We have to understand something before hoping to change it.

          • Getrealson

            ONCE AGAIN anon, he is STILL calling a philanthropist a moron!

        • Snicker

          Thank goodness normal Chinese people don’t know how the World Bank and Asian Development Bank work…

        • tai wai

          Many people in this world believe most homeless people need to stop being lazy.

          Many people lack empathy.

          So this netizen just thinks the entire situation is ridiculous, just like many foreigners think it is ridiculous or they would be morons to give money to Chinese beggars who may be fake beggars and when the Chinese government has money to buy Audis and host expensive Olympics and should take care of their people first.

          What is ridiculous is that logic. “The government has lots of money, why should I give mine away?”

          Even in a liberal country with a strong social safety net, that’s just a dodge, a poor justification for being selfish. “It’s not my job to help them, let the government take care of it.”

          In China, with it’s weak social safety net? That argument becomes more than just a selfish dodge. It’s downright sadistic.

          • MeiDaxia

            There’s a major difference between the West and China regarding charity, though. “The gov’t has money why should I give mine away” is exactly the logic, because throughout the last half century the government has done just that. The cultural revolution turned desperation into every man for himself, and China has yet to recover culturally. It is horrible, yes, and some of those “fake” beggars are surely just trying to send home as much money as possible… living poor so their family may be better off. Selfishness and selflessness both exist here, they are just manifest in clearly different ways than perhaps we are accustomed to.

          • tai wai

            The cultural revolution turned desperation into every man for himself, and China has yet to recover culturally.

            There’s an interesting question.

            Did socialism fail in China because Chinese people are selfish, or are Chinese people selfish because socialism failed?

          • whatamess

            interesting question but i think it is human nature to be selfish and socialism, as a theory is a beautiful idea, it will never work because of our selfish nature. someone will always want more or take advantage of others to gain power or wealth.

          • tai wai

            interesting question but i think it is human nature to be selfish

            Compassion for others hasn’t always been vilified. Greed hasn’t always been good. For example:

            “Culturally, due to the popularity of the novel Romance of the Three Kingdoms by Luo Guanzhong, Liu Bei is widely known as the ideal benevolent, humane ruler who cared for his people and selected good advisors for his government. His fictional character was a salutary example of a ruler who adhered to the Confucian set of moral values, such as loyalty and compassion.”

            Whether he really was compassionate can be debated, but shouldn’t that still be held up as an ideal? Like socialism?

            Ah! Again, that’s the real core of so many problems today. Because past idealism didn’t work, this society has totally done away with any idealism.

            Imagining a better China is frowned upon. Some are even jailed for it. “It is what it is, it will not change, get used to is” is the national theme.

            So, anyway, I’ll ask you, if it is human nature to be selfish, does that mean that being selfish is GOOD? That’s an “argument from nature” fallacy.

          • moop

            “someone will always want more or take advantage of others to gain power or wealth.” eh, yeah, but you’re leaving out that there will also be those who do more work and better work than others and therefore want what they would view as fair compensation.

            “human nature to be selfish, does that mean that being selfish is GOOD?” what do you mean by selfish? this british guy clearly enjoys what he does and does so because it makes him feels good. there’s nothing wrong with it, helping people does feel good. so he has two motivations to do what he is doing, helping others and personal selfishness of doing what makes him feel good, both are good though. i think selfishness is pretty nuetral and in many cases gets a pretty bad wrap, it drives people to do some immoral things, but it also drives people to compete and do great things

          • whatamess

            selfish competition is capitalism and not socialism proving my point that socialism can not work.

          • moop

            whatamess, i’m not arguing with you, i’m a… libertarian and a follower of the austrian school of economics. you wont get any arguments in support of capitalism from me

          • whatamess

            anyway, don’t take anything i say the wrong way. i like reading what you guys have to say, thats why i comment.

          • tai wai

            i think selfishness is pretty nuetral and in many cases gets a pretty bad wrap, it drives people to do some immoral things, but it also drives people to compete and do great things

            Sure. But lemme ask you this: Would you say that, now, China is a selfless, giving society, or a selfish, competitive society?

            And, if it is the latter (which I believe), do you think that is a good thing? It seems to me that selfishness and competition are tearing the seams of this place.

          • tai wai

            anyway, don’t take anything i say the wrong way. i like reading what you guys have to say, thats why i comment.

            What a nice thing to say.

            Cheers!

            *raises tsingtao*

          • whatamess

            It seems to me that selfishness and competition are tearing the seams of this place.

            is capitalism to blame or a lack of education about responsibilities of being wealthy and your role in the community once you “made it”

          • moop

            “Sure. But lemme ask you this: Would you say that, now, China is a selfless, giving society, or a selfish, competitive society?

            And, if it is the latter (which I believe), do you think that is a good thing? It seems to me that selfishness and competition are tearing the seams of this place.”

            i see your point, but personal property is not protected here by any means and that doesn’t really help the situation. the graft and corruption and the system of guanxi that excludes most people from participating in the process of enriching themselves and their society is responsible for this too. i don’t think greed and selfishness are the same thing. also, here in china you have a society that worships power and money is a form of that. they are conditioned to not get involved in others affairs (good or bad) and to not question things. i think greed and indifference is more the problem in china than selfishness and competition. then you have the whole white cat black cat thing that really is engrained here. there is no system of ethics in place

          • tai wai

            i don’t think greed and selfishness are the same thing.

            Ah! My mistake, I should have figured you were using the Randian definition of “selfish.”

            I’m not. Selfishness is greed is avarice, in my dictionary.

            i think greed and indifference is more the problem in china than selfishness and competition.

            Well, again, I’m equating selfishness with greed. We can just call it greed. As for the indifference? I believe it comes from competition. Why care about your opponent?

            then you have the whole white cat black cat thing that really is engrained here. there is no system of ethics in place

            Yes, that’s it! Pragmatism without an ethical or moral foundation on which to hold it. It leads to “It doesn’t matter if the cat is white or black, as long as *I* get the mouse. Fuck you.”

          • tai wai

            I guess, to me, it seems like this:

            Strict competition (capitalism) leads to material wealth and societal advancement, at the expense of egalitarianism, equity, and a shared sense of purpose. It is pragmatically useful.

            Strict cooperation (communism) leads to a shared purpose (we’re all brothers), at the expense of material wealth (and we’re all starving equally). It is ideologically useful.

            I guess that’s why most religious figured eschewed wealth in favor of “brotherly love” and soul searching.

            Anyway, how to balance these two things?

          • moop

            “As for the indifference? I believe it comes from competition. Why care about your opponent?”

            i think it has more to do with the black cat white cat thing and the fact that the individual is not respected here and there is no belief in the power of agency. competition tends to change from zero sum game (the state that it is stuck in here, but thats to be expected when one group of people practically run the show, what other kind of competition have the chinese ever been witness too?) to mutual benefit (or something resembling it) when governments actually protect both individual freedoms and property rights. i cant think of any countries which respect the individual and property rights and has such severe societal problems

          • moop

            “Anyway, how to balance these two things?”

            but doesnt a capitalist society allow for communes to form? in a free society couldnt a bunch of people band together and form small commun-like societies (they do). communism doesn’t allow capitalists to function, because capitalism requires private property. in capitalist society people can band together , buy a large piece of land and do their own thing

          • moop

            anyways, enjoying the discussion though

          • tai wai

            anyways, enjoying the discussion though

            Me too. But unfortunately, I gots ta split.

            Let try to foster more discussion around here more often. Might raise the quality up a bit from “damn near ask yahoo” to a more respectable “youtube comments section.”

            Argue more with you later :)

          • moop

            i’ll see what i can do between my angry bigoted rants

          • kodi

            HAHA wow actually those are exactly my views inverted on Mao ze dong and the regime that destroyed China. Instead of government insert poeple……….

          • Bo Xilai For Emperor

            See what I meant when we have to lower the expectation of PRC’s level of culture? You see in Vancouver and in China, most of these rich and successful Chinese are trying their hardest to smuggle their ill-earned cash out to Canada and the US in order to buy mansions and set-up fake companies for investment immigration, us expats with goals and ideals went to China with almost nothing and made something out of ourselves and we sell it and gave it back to the people in need. Shame shame…socialism is and always will be a failed social experiment, especially when it got hijacked for the purpose of becoming a closet capitalist

    • tai wai

      “From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.” — Karl Marx

      “The Party’s education will never produce this kind of people.” — 吴广寻陈胜

  • red scarf

    Sofa salutes a kind foreigner in China

  • pc

    sofa with a stuffed bun :P

  • eattot

    omg@
    is he married?
    kind hearted man is wonderful….

    • eattot

      and he is not fat ugly bald ugly laowai…. good….

      • moop

        yes, because fat ugly bald ugly laowai cannot do good things, in fact only beautiful people are capable of such wonderful deeds

        • eattot

          my sooner husband is not fat ugly bald but he wont do this either…..hahahaha!

          • MrT

            yea I bet he does nothing but stare at you..

          • Jennster

            :D

          • charles

            Hey – I am a fat and ugly laowai! I resent that! Well not really. I guess I am fat and ugly no matter where I go. Actually in China some woman seem to think I am attractive, shockingly. Or is it the passport? I don’t know.

        • manujoro

          So if he were a “fat bald ugly laowai” his good deeds would count for nothing? Intersting… Being one myself I should not try helping others then.

      • red scarf

        Yes, but does he give you steamed bun on a daily basis :P

        • red scarf

          ophs wrong place….

      • B*tches, Leave

        I’m sorry, eattot, but such kind of men will not go for girls like you … let’s be real here … Ok? Thanks!

        • Dr Hung Low

          exactly, that kind of man would have nothing to do with such a shallow, materialistic, selfish, superficial bimbo such as eattot

          • eattot

            hahahaha.i do not care what u say, i know myself well.
            my ex liked doing sth good to poor people when i was with him, because he knows me well.he knows how kind i am inside.he knows i cry often for nothing…

          • Dr Hung Low

            completely self unaware too…

          • manujoro

            eattot, if you cry often for nothing you should see a specialist. Maybe that’s the reason he is your ex… Wait, the reason he is your ex must be you being shallow, materialistic bitch. Congratulations to him!

          • http://soundcloud.com/starhawk-1 Little Wolf

            Well….for what it’s worth, I happen to know Eattot personally (don’t even try to start with any sexual innuendos) and she happens to be a real nice lady. She has strong opinions about things and is limited in expressing herself properly but she has way more integrity than alot of the mongoloids on this site. I’ll never be able to persuade the true shit-heads on this site to lay off but to those of you with half a brain(MOOP!), I hope you can cut her some slack. Alot of her expressions are easily mis-interpreted on a website but easy to understand in person.

          • manujoro

            Well… I don’t know her personally, so I apologize for my comments. She really may be a real nice person. However judging people by their appearance is just prejudice. Is there any other way to interpret that?

          • Rick in China

            @Little Wolf

            Eattot leaves notoriously idiotic comments on the forum. Whether she’s nice or not in person doesn’t mean people should overlook her stupidity here – does it?

          • http://soundcloud.com/starhawk-1 Little Wolf

            Rick…I’m telling you that alot of those comments are misunderstood. It has nothing to do with her being a nice person or not. I’m not trying to be “white knightish” or anything, I’m just being straight with you. If some of these mongoloids can only prey on a girl that half the time doesn’t even know when they are goofing on her it’s the very definition of chickenshit.

          • mr. wiener

            I like Eattot. She is free range, uncensored Chinese and her opinions are useful to listen to for this reason.
            I think we should all park our egos outside when we come here. I’m better than some but worse than most at this.

          • Lord Helmet

            Little Wolf very noble of you to stick up for eattot on a web forum. “You are real man”! I hope she gives you some for your brave acts.

          • The Enlightened One

            @Little Wolf

            Yeah I noticed that about eattot…

            She says things that are sort of spur of the moment but in actuality I think she is a really good person. I think the same of Linette and Nanny Hiccups… although Nanny you really should give China a visit.

          • http://soundcloud.com/starhawk-1 Little Wolf

            Lord Helmet: I like your username. But I can assure you that Eattot and I are only friends and neither of us are interested in
            “Le Sexy Time”

          • linette

            Rick in China…as for eattot…can also be because she is not a native English speaker like you. She can’t type large paragraph fully expressing her thought. She maybe able to express her thought fully typing in Chinese. Most time she just leaves one or two sentences. She wasn’t trying to give you her full thought.

          • tai wai

            he knows how kind i am inside.he knows i cry often for nothing…

            No reason, huh? Hmm. Coupled with your need for attention, I’m going with Histrionic personality disorder.

            “Histrionic personality disorder (HPD) is defined by the American Psychiatric Association as a personality disorder characterized by a pattern of excessive emotionality and attention-seeking, including an excessive need for approval and inappropriately seductive behavior, usually beginning in early adulthood.”

          • charles

            You guys are too hard on Eattot. She is probably a nice person. Everyone wants an attractive mate, right?

          • Bo Xilai For Emperor

            The gay Mr. Roboto

      • Dr Hung Low

        typical chinese…

        • MrT

          “i cry often for nothing…”
          That”s because your hate your self.

          • markus

            Moop and manujoro you should work for the news because you have a nice way of screwing someone’s real meaning into something bad.

            You should send your CV to some news agencies asap.

            But i must say even though you twisted her meaning I’m going to reply to your meaning…

            If he were fat, ugly, old etc… the impact of this story wouldn’t be as strong (its true but it shouldn’t be, but we all know this deep down)

          • Rick in China

            That’s a ridiculous and presumptuous thing to say.

            It wouldn’t be as strong, TO YOU? To whom? Shallow idiotic people who are likely fugly with shit fashion sense. It would carry the same impact for most people who don’t really give a shit if someone looks good or not and read the headline saying, “Cool, someone is doing something good!” then read the article.

          • Rick in China

            ++ should add in there “fugly and shit fashion sense themselves.” implying they like to talk shit about other people to help themselves overcome their own insecurities/shortcomings.

          • markus

            Rick in China i agree that it’s ridiculous but its also true is a lot of cases. (i even said in my last comment its true but it shouldn’t be) You said that’s a presumptuous thing to say and its true that it was a generalisation but on the internet the mass’ of people say things that they wouldn’t face to face (real life)

            If the same story was about a fat old man can you tell me that the same story would have been popular enough on the Chinese forums to get onto Chinasmack?
            Or maybe the top comments would focus more on that?… who really knows for sure but are you telling me it would have the same impact? We all know that it should have the same impact but it isn’t always the way…

            If you have a different opinion that’s fine, I think a lot of the Chinese internet users would react differently. That’s my opinion.

            However I personally don’t care either way. I was just making a reply to another comment. It wouldn’t change anything to me.

          • eattot

            markus :
            your a man with some social sense, those idiots guess are ugly losers,they bark so often because they wish peopel are so stupid and ugly as them…

          • Rick in China

            I think had he been ugly or fat or old or whatever, but had been doing the same deeds for the same time in the same place, the same story would have come about. People just wouldn’t talk about his appearance. That’s what I think.

            I would not say being any of those above things would *DETRACT* from the impact of the story, in fact, maybe it would allow people to focus on the good deeds he’s doing instead of make stupid comments about his appearance or age?

          • manujoro

            “markus :
            your a man with some social sense, those idiots guess are ugly losers,they bark so often because they wish peopel are so stupid and ugly as them…”

            … unless, of course, you’re a fat ugly bald ugly laowai, which would make all your efforts here a complete waste… We all know this deep down

      • xiaohouzi

        I guess to the immature or uneducated, fat, ugly and bald people are poor, worthless creatures who might as well die alone because they are fat, ugly or bald. It’s a very ignorant and discriminatory remark.

    • Ed

      When and why did bashing Eattot get more relevant that the actual topic of this article ?

      • http://soundcloud.com/starhawk-1 Little Wolf

        Nobody is making it more relevant Ed. Don’t worry, you’re buddy will get plenty of face time.

        • Ed

          I think you misunderstand LW. What I was trying to say in a subtle way was that I’m surprised people want to waste their time bashing someone instead of have a useful discussion about the topic. And Tony doesn’t need face time. I’m pretty sure he would have preferred to remain anonymous. He’s probably say the cause is more important than the man behind it. http://www.yellowrivercharity.com/

          • http://soundcloud.com/starhawk-1 Little Wolf

            It’s ok, Ed…. no malice intended. And you’re right. Guy’s like this aren’t worried about people stealing their thunder. Isn’t it amazing though how a few useless, non-contributing shit-heads will still try to find a negative spin on the guy?

          • Rick in China

            I get the feeling he’s the type who donate to charity with anonymity, the “true” type of donation without expecting a clap of hands afterwards.. glad to see a “soup kitchen” type thing around here, something that I think has been sadly lacking and always wondered why nobody started one up for the poor.

      • manujoro

        Sorry for getting off the topic Ed. I just found it quite astinishing that some people would pay so much attention to Tony’s appearance after reading what he has been doing for the past 7 years.
        But to get back to the article – somehow it made me remember the story of that guy that wasted all these buckets of KFC “in protest”, just because he could afford it.

  • Ed

    I find some of the comments by these Chinese people absolutely disgraceful. I live in Xi’an and know Tony personally. He is one of the most inspiring and unselfish people I have ever met. He was not ‘sent’ here by anyone, he ended up here by coincidence 7 years ago and decided to stay to help the homeless. I have been handing out clothing and blankets to the homeless and I have been disgusted that certain Chinese people came along or made donations just to get their pictures taken and gain some mianzi (face), after which some of them would help drive around while all the while complaining that ‘there are no homeless people in Xi’an’ or ‘they don’t need any help’.
    Tony doesn’t take any money from his NGO, lived in a Buddhist temple and when we helped him carry hundreds of packs of soup tins into a warehouse one volunteer asked after all the hard work ‘can I have a can to try it out’, Tony answered:’This soup wasn’t donated for you to eat.’
    Regarding the homeless, there are often many reasons why they are homeless. For instance, some are mentally disabled and have ended up on the street because there is no social security for them.
    In the World Giving Index, a research how willing people are to donate, volunteer or help a stranger, out of some 150 countries China ranks the lowest out of some 150 countries in the world. Go figure. https://www.cafonline.org/pdf/World_Giving_Index_2011_191211.pdf

    • Jennster

      I’ve always wanted to search for this because my mother always told me Chinese people usually don’t donate (from friends and relatives). You can also tell from their comments regarding this issue. they focus on other issues instead of donation issue.

    • markus

      i admire him, i couldnt do that for 7 years.

      people like him make this world a better place.

      the internet is full of idiots who say bad things. i know it can hurt but it cant stop those that are doing good things.

      • simon

        seconded

    • Rick in China

      I think that’s awesome that you’ve helped out with this. If something like this started up in Chengdu I’d like to know. Good for you Ed!

    • Kukuku

      Ed, please tell Tony I love him (no homo). Seriously he is an inspiration and a great man.

    • Web of Lies

      Nice job man, Tony seems like a great guy. Seven years and still motivated and driven to help others is simply amazing. Most of all, I hope he is able to influence others that this is the direction people should take in life.

    • Rico

      Well said, Ed. Good to hear some background on this guy. I hope if I ever find myself in any long term stint of volunteerism in China, the Chinese people don’t bash me and turn it into something negative. Keep up the good work, Tony!

    • The Enlightened One

      Hey,

      If you guys are in Xi’an, I would like to meet up sometimes and maybe contribute some help. I love Xi’an and I live a few hours away by bus. If you have a free weekend or something I would like to meet up.

      • Ed

        No problem. You can contact Tony through the soup kitchen website. http://www.yellowrivercharity.com

        • The Enlightened One

          Thanks, appreciate it.

          Has a video on the website too about what you guys too. Others should check it out.

          • The Enlightened One

            This group has done quite a lot. Including providing wheel chairs, medical care and way above any beyond just passing out steamed buns. I don’t know why it doesn’t mention these other acts in the article.

          • Ed

            > Has a video on the website too about what you guys too.

            In order to avoid confusion. I do not work at the soup kitchen. Tony is a personal friend and I have done some volunteering at his organisation and made some donations but I’m not involved in it. I myself work at 2 other NGOs, one that takes care of orphans and one that recruits volunteers and financial resources to support a range of organisations in Xi’an that help mentally disabled people.

    • tai wai

      In the World Giving Index, a research how willing people are to donate, volunteer or help a stranger, out of some 150 countries China ranks the lowest out of some 150 countries in the world. Go figure. https://www.cafonline.org/pdf/World_Giving_Index_2011_191211.pdf

      #140 Wow. Friggen wow. It only loses to some small eastern European or African countries.

      CHINA HAS NEARLY THE LEAST GIVING, MOST SELFISH PEOPLE IN THE WORLD.

      This… explains a lot.

      And oh, hey, neat. USA is the most giving.

      • kodi

        If you grew up eating only steamed buns and rice and occassionally had beans, vegetables, and meat maybe once a month you would be selfish as well. Thank you once again Mao for destroying China!

        • tai wai

          Yeah, I see that.

          Formally poor people can be the most greedy. Hoarders, basically.

  • Es

    I am very happy to learn that a foreigner like Tony is helping Chinese people, wish he could travel to other asian countries to help those distressed people.

  • MrT

    Brits 100 Chinese 0. Major face loss for China, again.
    See how fucking tight they are? They got no conception of giving money away unless its for over price goods to their compatriots then complaining the rich getting rich quick.
    I like to drop some food (or money) to them sleeping rough, nice surprise for when they wake up.
    I don’t donate to the iron bowl crews. I seen some of them go home at night like they been at the office all day. Twats.
    I did the one day see two fatty Chinese guys go over to a homeless guy a sleep and put some pots of food around him.
    So their not all cunts.

    • wacky

      so this is a news right??? just like those foreigner who make trouble are also news
      many of the chinese comments above are supportive as well just like many of the comments on the trouble making foreigner are full of cursing.

      • Getrealson

        Congratulations Wacko! Your the first one to bring up the negative foreign incidents, in a positive article about a great guy. knew it wouldn’t take long!

        • wacky

          it;s balance enough, isnt it

        • http://www.chinasmack.com Fauna

          It did not take long for someone to use this story to unfairly attack Chinese people, forgetting so easily the charity and donations of so many Chinese people in so many other situations. Do you think this attitude is intelligent? Is it civilized?

          So ridiculous.

          • Nanny Hiccups

            Fauna you should post more of those stories of Chinese charity. Maybe they are not informed. I loved the story that showed the Monk at the train station holding the hand of a man who had just died. That to me, was a pure and warm act of kindness. More stories like those too.

            It will also prove the racist nature of some of the ex-pats, who will probably accuse any Chinese philanthropists of having an ulterior motive.

          • Kukuku

            Nanny, even if they have ulterior motives it’s one of these cases where it doesn’t matter. Doing good should be encouraged.

          • wacky

            well like what i said, of course many chinese help their fellow chinese just that such thing is considered as a regular (and i dont think it should be reported either)
            in the end i think fascination for the foreigners is still there only now more and more negativity get reported as well.

          • http://500px.com/whiskersthecat whiskersthecat

            Last Chinese charity story (Chinese Red Cross providing orderly tents for the folks who lost their homes) had mostly negative, disillusioned comments from the Chinese netizens. The only positive ones who saw the fact that there were orderly tents for those in need were from the expats. It’s just one example, but it’s also the most recent example.

          • anon

            whiskersthecat, what a strange comment, why do you think cynicism about the Red Cross is mutually exclusive with appreciating orderly tents for those who need them? And how does that respond to Fauna’s reaction to Getrealson and MrT?

          • blah

            It wasnt an attack on Chinese people but an attack on Chinese comments, which are usually overly obnoxious or sappy.

            For whats its worth, I hold the same level of disdain for the American yahoo! comments section, which even on an entirely positive news story would devolve into Obama bashing madness.

            I dont judge people by race or ethnicity or by god forbid fucking country. But certain presumptions can be made about internet commenters and this story proved me right. Chinese internet comments rank with American internet comments as some of the worlds worst as far as being negative to the point of absolute absurdity….

            but thats why we read it.

          • moop

            yeah, yahoo! is by far the worst.

          • tai wai

            Oh, one more thing before I scoot off, to the Moderator:

            There is a political forum that I frequent that has a meme/cliche that goes “Both Sides are Bad, so vote Republican.” It comes up whenever there is a topic about a Republican doing something stupid or evil.

            Someone will inevitably come out to say “Yeah, well a Democrat did something similar before!” This implies that, all things being equal, Republicans are still superior.

            This is wrong in two ways. First, it deflects the focus back to the original poster (an ad hominem attack), making them now have to defend themselves. Secondly, it assumes that things are, in fact, equal on both sides.

            I see the same thing happen here, quite often. Someone will criticize something about China, and the reply is “but where you’re from isn’t great.” Or, they’ll point out racism, only to be told that Westerners are also racists.

            Which doesn’t matter. Such fallacious tactics don’t even try to answer the original criticism. Even if Both Sides ARE Bad, we are discussing YOUR side being bad right now. That needs to be addressed.

            Criticisms against China on this site should be addressed, not dodged. For better or worse, your website is focused on Chinese culture, and people will come here to criticize Chinese culture.

            Maybe if the debate was more forthright, it would attract more intelligent discussion, and the comments wouldn’t so quickly devolve into shouting matches and name calling.

            My 5 mao.

          • Oh Dear!

            When I read the Yahoo comments section, I momentarily lose faith in humanity. By the way, it’s me Nanny. Tired of the name, trying on new shoes. Oh dear!

          • PeterScriabin

            @anon – how do your 2 random non-sequiturs, addressed to whiskers, constitute a worthwhile post? Just wild stuff.

            Don’t you think it’s time for you to get a new handle, what with all the confusion with Anon (except his posts make sense)?

            I’m torn between Fauna’s Little Lap and Little Lord Fauna-leroy (OK, maybe only older Brits will get that one, but it’s perfect for you, if I do say so myself). What do you think?

    • Rick in China

      Sometimes after a long night out partying if I’m walking home and pass people sleeping outside I’ll give them whatevers in my pocket, sometimes a few hundred kuai – figure just dropped a lot more drinking and they’re *truly* homeless, could use it for something a little more necessary than I would.

      The “iron bowl crew”, never heard of them referenced like that, but yah – lots of the cripples/youth/etc they get herded up and dropped off daily, many of them have bosses who give them quotas to meet or they don’t eat etc..lots of shady shit going on, so while it’s great to help out homeless, like you said, need to make sure they’re the real deal.

      • Nanny Hiccups

        you are helping the homeless if you give those shady people money. if you don’t, they don’t get to eat, right?

        • Kukuku

          Going to the local KTV to get a girl is also “helping her”, but there are better ways to lend a hand.

          • simon

            she’d also be lending you a hand ;)

          • Kukuku

            Rather partial to feet tbh.

        • linette

          nanny, I really want to cry on this issue. Giving money to homeless people many times will encourage kidnapping of kids and disabled people in China. They have a whole underground organization of kidnappers. The kids they captured sometimes they will break their legs or hands to get more sympathy.

          http://movingmandarin.wordpress.com/2011/02/23/baby-where-are-you-abducted-child-beggars-in-china/

          I always cry when I read about them. I have very weak stomach and I can’t control myself.

          I strongly advise you folks don’t give money but give foods and clothes instead to the homeless. And don’t be mean to the homeless eventhough they harrass you for money. They probably get a lot of beating from the gang.

          • Rick in China

            About those kids, exactly. DO NOT give them cash to buy their roses or whatever.

            Instead, if you see the same ones near your local favorite restaurants or clubs, make friends with them and take them to snack shops by the places they wander and buy them a snack and drink. That’s what my friends and I used to do with the groups near clubs (which there don’t seem to be many of any more in Chengdu at least), there were about 8 of them and 99% of the time the same kids. They were just young kids put in a shit situation with no way out, unfortunate, but at least paying some attention and buying them some snacks whenever you see them lets them know the entire world isn’t a bunch of dickheads trying to squeeze everything out of them.

          • Nanny Hiccups

            This is the part that makes me feel like the Chinese government doesn’t take care of its people. Instead of raiding whorehouses, they should be using their manpower to steal these children and disabled people back and arrest those responsible. I saw a horrible story on Chinasmack once where a bunch of disable people had been enslaved for years. Broke my heart.

          • tai wai

            About those kids, exactly. DO NOT give them cash to buy their roses or whatever.

            Instead, if you see the same ones near your local favorite restaurants or clubs, make friends with them and take them to snack shops by the places they wander and buy them a snack and drink.

            I started carrying snacks for this reason. I’ve always soon found myself mobbed, and wishing I had brought more :\

          • Rick in China

            @Hiccups RE: “Steal them back”

            And put them where? There isn’t exactly a good system in place to handle tens of thousands of ‘stolen back’ children. It’s a shitty situation for them. Sometimes their parents even sell them or ‘rent’ them out to these crews to get some cash for their family. It’s a whole lot of bullshit and no real good solution.

    • Wayne

      I remember a couple years ago there was a major disaster and every Chinese I knew gave at least 50 RMB to the relief fund. A lot of people gave way more than I expected giving their modest salaries. Chinese can be extremely generous for their friends, families, and charities, but they don’t like to be cheated, I can tell you that for sure.

    • kodi

      The real humans in this country are not rich. They are often common people who understand life and living.

  • Jennster

    mmm i feel good giving $200 aud donation to sichuan earthquake. but then again it probably got stolen by red cross.

    • Rick in China

      Red Cross – F them. My maid’s hometown was near the very center of the Sichuan quake and her family’s house got destroyed, so while I didn’t donate a single dime to the Sichuan quake through an organization, I gave her a big bonus. Much better to give directly to the people than through shady organizations here :D

      • Nanny Hiccups

        I much rather give directly too, instead of the money going to administrative costs. There was a story here in my town about this group of suburban white women who were out begging, pretending to be homeless. One day, someone followed them home and discovered that they lived in huge mini-mansions out in the suburbs. It wasn’t against the law at the time, but now it is considered fraud for doing such things. The sad part is that, begging or giving money to beggars is now against the law in my city.

    • Ed

      I work as an international volunteer for an NGO myself and I can tell you that there is a serious issue of trust in charities in China. There’s various reasons for this. First of all a lack of transparency, so people don’t know where the money goes. Second many scandals and corruption cases that have come to light after the Sichuan earthquake. So NGOs need to improve their openness and transparency. However, incidents like last year with Guo Mei Mei, a model who put pictures of herself with expensive cars and handbags on the internet and claimed to be working for the Red Cross (a made up fact) are not helping. They have seriously damaged the charity sector in China. Just imagine the damage that has been done by one girl trying to gain face and driven by materialistic lies.
      Regarding Tony’s soup kitchen, I need to add that it runs with mostly Chinese volunteers and donations of both laowai and Chinese people. As far as I know every mao donated is going to the beneficiaries.

      • Germandude

        Ed,

        I know that this comment will sound like a slap into your face. And for that I am very sorry. In fact, I really admire Tony’s and your work. This is out of the question, but in fact, I think that while you are helping single persons out of their misery, or improve their lives as good as you can, in the big picture I don’t think this is the case.

        You are taking the role, a specific part of it, which in fact shouldn’t be and is not yours. The only institution that should, must and really has the power to help the poor, left behind people, is the government and through it, the Chinese people themselves. How can a society go to bed with the wish for nice dreams while knowing that the poorest here have ZERO support by the government and tax payers? It’s a society’s own responsibility to take care of its weakest. Nobody else’s!

        Now you can argue that I am cold blooded, which somehow is right, but I strongly believe that any improvement of a status quo needs to come from the inside, as otherwise has a bad impression to the receiver. In the eyes of a Chinese, you are a westerner that comes to China for teaching how to do things and create a distance to the problem.

        And by no means do I say that western societies are better. The help is, no doubt, but the system itself is based on perfidy. I am spending taxes on my salary and what not, SO THAT I can go to bed saying to myself that I have done enough. Is that right? No, it is not. Unemployed, poor and homeless people in Germany are much better off than their counterparts in China are, but is Any tax payer actually helping them? No, they are paying to ignore the problems, which might be easier to bear in a western economy than in China, but doesn’t solve the problem.

        In fact, I think the comment saying “give a a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach him how to fish, and you feed him a lifetime” is the right approach. This however seems to be unachievable because humans are sick bastards and would not go the extra mile.

        Again, your actions are honorable, but I doubt of any help.

        • Ed

          Germandude, how can you judge me when you don’t actually know what I’m doing ? For your information, I’m a volunteer that works to build the capacity at 2 *Chinese* NGOs, helping them to improve their fundraising, CSR cooperations with companies and on- and offline marketing. As such, I’m helping existing Chinese charities get improve, not do their work for them. So, I *am* teaching them how to fish.
          If you expect the government to do this kind of work then you should read up on the non-profit sector. You’ll find that the government has actively started sponsoring NGOs because they realise these NGOs are – in many cases – much closer to the benificiaries and can do a much better job then they can.

          • Germandude

            Ed, I am not judging you. If at all, I admire what you are doing.

          • Ed

            Guess it’s just me that finds a statement like “You are taking the role, a specific part of it, which in fact shouldn’t be and is not yours.” to be judgemental then … ;-)

          • Germandude

            I am sorry, but u might have noticed through my English that I am not a native speaker.

            It shouldn’t be yours – it should be the Chinese role to help themselves

            Is not yours – it’s the Chinese’s

            Hm, now thinking of it: in German this sentence makes perfect sense, my English is probably too limited to bring the message across. Sorry for that.

          • Kukuku

            He probably meant that the government’s responsibilities have unjustly fallen on your shoulders for you to bear.

          • Ed

            Your explanation just confirmed that I understood you perfectly the first time. ;-)

          • Germandude

            But Ed, then I don’t understand why that would offend you. I am judging the Chinese govt. in a bad way on this. NOT you!

            Kukuku understands my meaning.

          • jin

            germandude, what ed does earns my respect, hes trying to change the way china works with charity, hes a human and is trying to help a fellow human, whether they are asian or not.
            you said that the chinese should help themself, so does that mean the africans should just help themself? and not get any help from around the world???

          • jin

            oh and he did say: You’ll find that the government has actively started sponsoring NGOs because they realise these NGOs are – in many cases – much closer to the benificiaries and can do a much better job then they can.

          • Germandude

            jin, what Ed does of course deserves respect. I don’t question that at all. I even said that it’s honorable what he does.
            I am sorry, but why do u bring up this comparison with Africa? On the one hand I surely think that the world should help Africa (in the way Ed does help China for example).
            However how Europe and the US are helping Africa over the last decades is proven to be wrong. Throwing money into corrupt countries has never helped. It actually results into the state of closing the eyes and dreaming about how great u were today with saving the world, while wishing not to be bothered with the problem tomorrow again.

            Please don’t try to put me into a racist corner. I have the feeling that’s what u tried to do when writing “whether they are Asian or not”. It wouldnt matter if they had green skin and pink hair either…

          • jin

            im not trying to say that youre a racist, what i tried to say is, he tried to help a fellow human being, ethnicity doesnt matter because we are all humans. yes, but what ed is doing (what most charity should do) is helping directly, and not just send money to them. african dictators will take the money/food/other stuff and put it in their own pocket. these charity should send the food/clothes to the poor personally, but they dont give a shiit, because most charity are corrupt as fuk. they receive 100million+ and somehow their administration costs are the same than what they give to the poor. i would say that about ALL the big charity fund around the world are corrupt, the president of those charity funds are all rich, their yearly income are about 100-500k or even more(corruption) a year payed by the charity…….

        • Snicker

          It is my impression that almost all countries have a problem with homelessness. People are usually not homeless because they don’t know how to metaphorically fish. Rather, they are homeless because they are not able to fish due to reasons such as depression, mental incapacities, substance addictions, other social strife, natural disasters, or the unfortunate issue of unhirability due to no fixed address, no access to clean clothes/shower facilities, etc. These are people who will not be able to fish, and require either the charity of private donors or the charity of government to help them.

          It is a given that no charity can help every person in need. However, a charity stands to offer compassion and assistance to those people that it can help. Many people are one meal away from death on the cold street, or thievery and prostitution out of desperation to help themselves or their unfortunate children. Giving people the wonderful (and often taken-for-granted) feeling of a warm, full stomach and also of acceptance can only help people on a one-to-one basis. A soup kitchen also offers a “gateway” for other charities or even government to access homeless people to offer larger-scale social assistance, counselling, or even entrance into social housing and employment projects.

          Other governments also have no good ways of solving these issues, and homelessness is often a target of charity, whether it is in Canada, UK or I am sure, Germany. The fact is that for many homeless people, the only difference this will make is to make them feel full for a few hours. But that might just be all the difference in the world for them.

        • Jennster

          the Chinese govt does give out lots but 90% is stolen through intermediaries like charity organisations and people working as agents. this is why it is so annoying.

          • Cooljackal

            I wouldn’t be surprised if what is officially given out, as shown in government accounting books, has quite a bit stolen even before it reaches those intermediaries.

  • k

    What an awesome guy. He doesn’t have to prove a damn thing to netizens, the only people who matter are the ones he is actually helping. The netizen reactions just show how ugly their hearts and souls truly are and that isn’t his problem to fix.

  • Kukuku

    ***Out of topic***

    Going to live/work in Beijing at the beginning of next year. Anyone got a spare room to rent or know a place dirt cheap? My reqs are simple: laundry machine, hot water,a bed and not infested.

    Thanks

    • Cooljackal

      Couchsurfing.org. You don’t need to couch surf but you can probably find tons of people in beijing who might have spare rooms or information on spare rooms.

      • Kukuku

        Thanks

        • Cooljackal

          No prob.

          • Kukuku

            Statement: Optimal ratio achieved!

  • limeycant

    I love the fact the legion of useless foreign dregs – or better known as bottom feeding english “teachers” – who are trying to bandwagon the good work of one person. And, just because he happens to be white, it some how validates the other foreign deadbeats – talk about ethnocentrism.

    • Kukuku

      Ni haaaaaaaaaooooooooooooooo.

    • http://soundcloud.com/starhawk-1 Little Wolf

      Give us an example of somebody bandwagoning here, Einstein.

      • Rick in China

        I presume he’s trolling :D If not, he’s seriously disturbed, imagining things — or projecting how the story originally made him think onto “others”, unspecified others at that.

    • UsefulForeignDreg

      Bottom feeding english teachers? Thats a bit mean

      • Kukuku

        I guess that’s what I am, if she is cute. Nvm I guess that’s not what he meant.

    • Nanny Hiccups

      Good point. They take one exceptional person who happens to be white, and take ownership of his good qualities all the while bitching and not contributing a damned thing.

      • http://soundcloud.com/starhawk-1 Little Wolf

        Again…who? Who is bandwagoning or trying to hang on this guy’s coat tails? All I read are people saying “damn good job, man”.

        You really are your own worst enemy, nanny.

        How do you know what we do or don’t do? Do you have your own CIA drone following me around? Are you keeping track of all the random acts of kindness that alot of us do or are you just keepin track of all the foreign womanizers that apparently can’t score in their own country because you read that somewhere on a website.

      • The Enlightened One

        Oh wow,

        I, hereby revoke my above earlier statement about you.

      • What a stupid fucking comment.

    • The Enlightened One

      You know,

      You are very quick to talk about “dregs” and such as though you are segregated from them. This suggests a high probability of an inferiority complex, in which you need to somehow validate your own worth by trying to insult and debase others. Well, my friend… you really are a “limeyc*nt”.

    • k

      So wait let me get ur point…..because Im a white girl and I say “what an awesome guy he is” then that automatically makes me a “dreg” trying to take credit for the good deeds of this man who just happens to also be white? Wow what a racist, stupid comment….apparently white people arent allowed to compliment someone who is also white? Seriously how the hell do eveb make this into a race thing? And how the hell do you know what us other white people do or not do? He is a stand up HUMAN, has nothing at all to do with him being white…and fyi I was an english teacher in korea but im also a certified elementary teacher in the states and when I worked in Korea my other “bottom feeder” expat friends did ALOT of charity work with orphanages and soup kitchens for the poor…

      • Cooljackal

        K, you aren’t allowed to compliment other white people if you are white. That is the law.

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  • Nanny Hiccups

    A very good man. The world needs more people like him. More hearts, that are open to helping others. More hearts willing to love.

    Not some loser in China using up the resources then bitching about how much they hate it here. Really, if I were an ex-pat who came here to complain about how utterly awful Chinese people are, I would read this story and feel thoroughly ashamed.

    Instead, some of you hate China but stay because you want to find a girl. Other than work, I cannot see any other reason why an ex-pat would live somewhere he hates and complain about if not there for the women. I bet this tony guy has a british wife.

    • moop

      no matter how many times you make this argument, it fails to carry any water. people have a right to criticize any society they live in, its very authoritarian of you. but i wouldnt expect anything less from someone how has never been here and probably never will.

      • Nanny Hiccups

        People don’t have the right to criticize the society they live. You are applying an American ideology to another country. You need to adapt to China, China doesn’t adapt to you. 20 or so years ago, much of China was still pretty closed off to the world. And slowly, gradually, that changed. Just as some of the social issues that have annoyed you will eventually changed. You are so typical of disillusioned American youth – thinking the world revolves around your wants, needs and desires. I fear for the future. But of course, you are thick and incapable of understanding anything that isn’t laid out in black or white for you so much of what you could have learned from this opportunity, has gone over your head.

        • moop

          god, please just come here and see for yourself, you are clueless. the chinese DO complain about society. they do it all the time. if you had ever been here you would know that, and wouldnt say stupid shit yet again

          • Nanny Hiccups

            Of course they complain! DUH! But not the way you complain. Your complaints have a different meaning than someone complaining about their motherland.

          • simon

            a lot of chinese bitch and moan because that’s their only outlet, they can’t move to another country if they wanted to. You however have a choice so it’s rather ironic seeing you constantly whinge, it’s like seeing a fat person complaining about being fat while he chomps down on a double quarter pounder with cheese

          • moop

            “Of course they complain! DUH! But not the way you complain. ”

            how would you know? oh, thats right, 48% fluent right? you’ve seen lots of kungfu movies, i forgot.

            you’ve NEVER heard a chinese person complain about their homeland, you NEVER read a chinese person complaining about their homeland. your experience of china is ordering an eggroll in a restaurant. the chinese are their harshest critics at times, of course this would escape you. i’m not sure how we are precluded from having an opinion, especially on a website FOR FOREIGNERS. buy a plane ticket and find out for yourself

          • moop

            simon, its not that easy when you’re married and you pay for your mother in law’s doctor bills. get your head out of your ass

          • Nanny Hiccups

            Moop – they are already overcrowded with 1.3 billion people. Do you really think they need some “foreigner” with a chip on his shoulder sucking up the already limited resources?

          • Nanny Hiccups

            Moop, I can understand venting if you are literally “stuck” there for a while. But you do need to put your environment in perspective.

        • http://soundcloud.com/starhawk-1 Little Wolf

          Enough with the cut and paste function, nanny. We’re onto you.

          • Nanny Hiccups

            wtf are you talking about “cut and paste”?

          • http://soundcloud.com/starhawk-1 Little Wolf

            Wtf are you talking about? You really think we take your shit seriously with your bullshit “China expert” comments? Yeah…we’re all really impressed.

          • Germandude

            Am I understanding correctly that Nanny is not in China? I am not reading this website daily, but she is commenting here often I thought she is in China.
            Honestly she got me close to the point where I thought I am watching the wrong movie here and only see the bad side doubting my own experiences…

          • Kukuku

            She’s not here and has NEVER gone outside her own country and yet knows more than all of us combined about China and the rest of the world for that matter.

          • vince

            @ Nanny Hiccups I completely agree with Little Wolf nanny unless you really live here and know what the place is like, noone is going to take your advice or points of view seriously. We all live in China and experience it on a day to day basis.

        • Cooljackal

          Haha, come on Nanny, do you really think you wouldn’t complain or criticize if you were living in hardcore saudi arabia for example? What about when their religious police come and whip you with a cane while you walk down the street not accompanied by a male family member or your husband? Can YOU adapt to that? I highly doubt it.

          So take it easy on these guys. The environment here creates a type of stress you have no idea about no matter what you might think. Sometimes it boils over and can cause people to show it in different ways, like for example posting it online in a rant. Just let it go…

          • Nanny Hiccups

            Are you being whipped or caned? Mentally and physically oppressed? Made to wear a burka? Awww someone called you laowai? Someone spit on the ground? Someone said “heeeeerroooow” You want some cheese to go with that whine? Seriously.

            You are not a woman being oppressed in the middle east. No one is forcing you to have an escort whenever you go uot the door, no one will stone you if you have sex. How dare you compare such a thing.

          • Cooljackal

            How dare I compare such a thing? Nanny, for one, you are not the judge and jury of what is acceptable as material for comparison. Based on your previous posts even in other articles it looks like you are a person who has a very superficial understanding of certain things and like to react with your “gut”. If you took some of the advice (minus the hostility) that others here have given you then you might start seeing things in a little less one-dimensional way. Going with your gut can be good, but it just makes you look uninformed when you do it with regards to a subject you don’t seem to know the details about.

            I think my comparison is actually fair considering the fact that they are two completely different cultures and working/living in either one would be very different from your home country. You have just picked up on the oppression of women part and took offense to that without actually trying to understand what I am telling you (just like quoting gbs without fully understanding it as tai wai pointed out below). Since you don’t speak for all women and men, I would assume that every individual would and could find something they cannot adapt to and, which might even go against their principles.

            Like dr hung low said below, if you live in and are a part of a society then you have EVERY right to criticize it. You aren’t a guest, you aren’t a traveler.

            And just some friendly advice, don’t shoot first and ask questions later, ask questions and think HARD about whether you should shoot or not. Hopefully you will try to understand what is implied and not assume I am telling you think about shooting someone.

        • Dr Hung Low

          People don’t have the right to criticize the society they live.

          Is this idiot for real? Listen sweetcakes, Im a business owner here and I pay taxes and I will criticise this place as much as I bloody want.

          You are applying an American ideology to another country.

          Yes, because its only americans that criticise their own country. No one else in the rest of the world does this. This is an american only thing…

          You need to adapt to China, China doesn’t adapt to you.

          Bullshit. China wants to open up to the world by, apart from other things, being part of the WTO and invite FDI into its shores, by doing so it opens itself to criticism. If it doesnt like it they can close up shop again and see how that works out for them…

          “The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” George Bernard Shaw.

          Spend some time here before you comment on the place. You sound like a fu*king idiot.

          • Nanny Hiccups

            ““The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” George Bernard Shaw.”

            You idiot, you just posted the opposite of your argument. The above quote is what I said to you. you want china to adapt to YOU and not the other way around.

            As for the others who comment about where I have been or have not been, you wouldn’t know. I tell people what I want them to know, or what I want them to think.

          • http://soundcloud.com/starhawk-1 Little Wolf

            Yeah….but you know everything about us and our circumstances that compell us to stay here and how we’re all bitter losers and asiaphiles. You claim to have come to this site for research so why don’t you just sit back and shut your pie hole and people might be civil to you and you might actually learn something.

          • tai wai

            you want china to adapt to YOU and not the other way around.

            Oh, wow. I think you need to read that quote again. I’m going to give you the benefit of the doubt, and assume you were just lazy and didn’t think about it, and not that you are incapable of understanding it.

            Here, I’ll help point out the important part.

            ““The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” George Bernard Shaw.”

            Get it now? No?

            Unreasonable people demand progress. Reasonable people do nothing. Useless.

          • vince

            @ tai wai I see what Bernard Shaw did there, well played :)

        • tai wai

          People don’t have the right to criticize the society they live.

          Are you for real?

          • Dr Hung Low

            She probably feels that way because she more than likely doesnt pay any income tax and sucks off the govt welfare teat for a living. Id feel the same way as her if I was in her position.

          • Dr Hung Low

            “Here, I’ll help point out the important part.

            ““The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” George Bernard Shaw.”

            Get it now? No?

            Unreasonable people demand progress. Reasonable people do nothing. Useless.”

            Thanks tai wai…

            I take it back about eattot and give her the benefit of the doubt due to the language barrier, but nanny has no excuse, she is that damn thick

            “As for the others who comment about where I have been or have not been, you wouldn’t know. I tell people what I want them to know, or what I want them to think.”

            You have written before that you have never been to china. So now youre a liar and playing stupid childish games on the internet or just being deliberately misleading, either way, grow the hell up.

          • Mengkong

            @Nanny Hiccups

            Sigh…

            How is it “wrong” to criticize a culture, exactly?

            If I weren’t so sure that you weren’t born in China, I’d say you were Chinese. A very China-like mindset you have there…

            At risk of Godwinning this thread, I wonder what it would be like if you lived in a different time / place, like… Nazi-controlled Europe? Spain during the Spanish Inquisition? USA during the Red Scare? China during the Great Leap Forward? I think it’d be funny to hear a chorus of Nanny’s no-criticism-of-society mantra then…

          • tai wai

            How is it “wrong” to criticize a culture, exactly?

            Because you’re white. Probably.

            See, she’s confusing criticism with prejudice, because that’s all her mind sees. We’re apparently “looking down” on the country that we choose to call home.

            For some unknown fucking reason.

            I guess we’re really that masochistic!

    • Ed

      You just lost a bet.

    • The Enlightened One

      LOL… And another one bites the dust…

      I am not even going to read your posts anymore. You assume too much while in reality have no experience or any real knowledge to add credible input.

      Most of your posts are feng pi.

    • http://500px.com/whiskersthecat whiskersthecat

      You get mad about people criticizing and then you criticize by insulting anyone who lives in China with a Chinese girlfriend. Brilliant, bumpkin.

    • cc

      Meh

    • blah

      What resources do foreigners use in China, get a grip.

      • Cooljackal

        Rice and tofu of course. They’re national resources.

    • hooots

      YOU HAVE NEVER BEEN TO CHINA SO YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE FUCK YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. It’s hilarious that you think you contribute anything to any of the discussions here on chinaSMACK.

      I lived there for 2 years, and know what people on chinaSMACK are talking about when they criticize China. From most of what I’ve read, ninety percent of their complaints are valid. YOU on the other hand sound laughably ignorant and nobody here takes anything you say seriously. Please go away.

  • Cynic

    I like what was written in the post up top.

    ‘If one day our ordinary common people stopped protesting against foreign governments, and used the enthusiasm we have criticizing Japanese devils and American imperialists to criticize our own government, then our nation would be truly civilized.’

    It’s so common here to blame and critize outwardly rather than analyze what’s going on internally. It’s one of the major reasons I hate Chinese people.

    Tony has a big heart and I feel a certain amount of redemption in knowing people like him exist and don’t generalize and hate as I do. He’s a selfless guy. I also enjoyed his comments on homelessness. It gave me a fresh perspective that brought me closer to actually being human for a change.

  • BigJ

    Good for this guy. At least this guy is doing something productive. This has a lot of work to do. :) This guy does more then I will ever do. Most I do is give bums my left over food when I get off the train. Old people do need help, so do mentally handicap people in china. They don’t get much help from the government. In Canada most of the bums I see do it to them self with drugs or alcohol…not all but most. I tip my hat to this guy. And everyone one has something bad to say about what he is doing is a straight fucking ass hole.

  • moonmickey

    Those chinese commenting have black hearts, such outbursts simply wouldn’t happen in other countries. They really hate each other and more so when people have less.

  • diverdude

    I feel he may be an Angel.

    I personally believe that Angels do manifest in human form.

    If you do believe in Christianity/Jesus Christ, then you see that this is not a preposterous idea.

    http://www.talkswithangels.com/angels.html

    (b4 u ask, I am not being sarcastic, disingenuous, cynical)

    • Getrealson

      cuckoo!……..cuckoo!……….

    • Cooljackal

      Quick, somebody get this guy a soapbox.

    • Kukuku

      Quick, let’s reduce this good man’s work to that of an imaginary entity!

      • I was about to comment until I read your reply. Yours takes the cake.

    • Jen

      In Buddhism, we refer such being as a Bodhisattva, someone who would sacrifice his/her own interest for the sake of others.. Anyone can be a Bodhisattva, though.. If one helps others, then he is a Bodhisattva, if one creates trouble for other people, then he is simply a demon.

  • Cynic

    Moonmickey your dead on about them hating eachother and more do when the person has less. (lower in the hierarchy)

  • Cleo

    wth? Chinasmack recently posted an article about professional beggars in Indonesia and now we get this in China??

  • Andy

    He only did it to try and get laid.
    He’s probably a predatory pedophile on the run from Interpol.

    • moop

      arent we all

      • http://soundcloud.com/starhawk-1 Little Wolf

        moop: ZING!

    • Germandude

      Andy, your comment really shows what a low-life you are. Thanks for letting us know…

      • http://soundcloud.com/starhawk-1 Little Wolf

        Pretty sure he was kidding Germandude.
        Right Andy?

        Andy?

        • Germandude

          Little Wolf, usually I hear that the Germans are all too sarcastic? In Andy’s case, I would say he was too far off, if that means anything to u.

          • http://soundcloud.com/starhawk-1 Little Wolf

            Germandude…. you may be right..hard to know the tone on a forum sometimes. But I’d like to give him the benefit of the doubt.

    • mr. wiener

      riiigght…..I’ll just spend the next seven years of my life helping the needy in order to get laid.
      Take you that long did it Andy?

    • Snicker

      OH no you din’t!

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  • Cynic

    Nanny if you have never been here you don’t know enough to argue with the others. I’m close to a decade. 4 of those years in a huge industrialized village. It can be really really really raw.

  • Akuma

    Besides I absolutely admire this guy’s ambition and doings, am I the only one who finds that little Asian girl cute?

  • Cynic

    German dude. That is what I gathered from reading this string of posts. Could be wrong though. We will need her to confirm.

  • Slob

    Reminds me of Scott Neeson – The Australian millionaire film executive who gave up everything to help kids in Cambodia.

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Neeson

    Good on the guy for lending a hand that most of us don’t have the courage to. Especially someone who gives up everything including mansions and sports cars and seemingly has life made, then goes to help the poor for free. I guess every wealthy person who hits a certain What-else-is-there? point in there life should take inspiration from this man rather than throwing millions of dollars on absolute useless shite like Paris Hilton’s diamond encrusted car dashboard for example. I suppose us lower collared folks could do the same too and give a hand when needed.

    There’s no reason to bad mouth this man. He isn’t just helping the poor, he’s giving up his life of luxury. Something I think very few of us would actually consider doing.

  • jeffli

    When this Brits money does run out, and make no mistake the opportunists will milk him dry in China and spit on him when he has zero money and the the bun supplier gets no money.

    When he’s finally broke the response from Chinese “Yeah thanks n fk off”
    I don’t ever think I have seen Chinese grateful for help, more like …..” more more more” greedy!

    Why don’t Chinese take care of their own?
    5000 years of culture and history?
    western or Eastern BARBARIANS ARE ARE BARBARIANS!

    I BLAME
    MAO
    GANG OF FOUR
    CCP
    EVERY SUCCESSFUL BUSINESS IN CHINA
    SNOBBY CHINESE CHILDREN OF PARTY CADRES, GOVT OFFICIALS AND ARMY.
    CHINESE CULTURE

    • The Enlightened One

      Well, at least he is setting an example.

      If rich foreigners can come to China and help why can’t Chinese help their own people? Maybe he will open a few minds and hearts and in China, that is a rarity like no other…

      • tai wai

        Well, at least he is setting an example.

        Hopefully. But I’m pretty sure many would dismiss him solely because he is foreign, maybe more than would follow his example

    • Ed

      You might be surprised how grateful some of the homeless people are.
      Also, Tony used to live in a Buddhist temple where the monks provided him with free food and lodging. They considered him a boddhisattva and wouldn’t even allow him to do the dishes. A local church has made a building available for the soup kitchen but does not interfere religiously. He leads a very simple life not at all according to the wealth he might have gathered in the UK. The soup kitchen is operationally run by Chinese volunteers, so he empowers the local people to help their fellow Chinese.

      Jeffli, I might harbour some of the same frustrations you vent here, but I also think that Tony is a truly inspirational guy that deserves a lot of respect.

      Regarding Enlightened One’s response, culturally China has for centuries had a ‘courtyard mentality’, meaning that your own (extended) family is highly important but anything outside of it is considered to be relatively irrelevant to them. Now, with the current young generation this seems to be changing and even the government has included elements in their new 5 year plan to stimulate things like volunteering. Wherever you go in China people tend to talk over love, care and compassion … but it will take several generations before the mindset has changed enough for people to not just talk the talk, but also walk the walk.

      • tai wai

        Wherever you go in China people tend to talk over love, care and compassion … but it will take several generations before the mindset has changed enough for people to not just talk the talk, but also walk the walk.

        True.

        Gotta stay optimistic about China. Gotta stay optimistic about China. Gotta stay optimistic about China…

        Aw, crap, no, I’m pessimistic again.

  • http://www.bestvpninchina.com Rod

    I’m curious about how many hoops he had to jump through to get this started. I’m sure there were plenty of leeches looking for an opportunity to exploit this kind of venture.

    But yeah, good on him.

  • Carlito Johnny Briganti

    local villager helps homeless in xian

    Could you imagine that. Now slap yourselves in the face and wake up from your day dream. It just aint gonna happen.

    rephrase of the headline

    “local villager helps homeless in xian and asks him tom pay his tab, 2 weeks later”

  • Bill Stack

    This would be a better story if it looked deeper into why people are poor & homeless.

    • Misiooo

      Poor and homeless are walking warning signs for the rest of us enslaved to not even think about quitting the system. Yet, they themselves are usually happier than most of us.

  • Racesunite

    The people who actually disrespect what this guy is doing makes me sick. These are the people who got spoiled to much by thier parents and should have gotten thier asses kicked instead.

    To the people who think this guy is pathetic…WTF have you done in your life that is so admirable? Idiots hiding behind a keyboard.

  • The Enlightened One

    Anyone who knows anything about “professional beggars” usually knows that they are in it for the money and normally get angry or annoyed when you give them food or clothing.

    The comments that suggest he is a moron by helping “professional beggars” is just asinine. They don’t seem to be begging him (as shown with the guy lying down), he is clearly handing it out to them and they seem appreciative. All the people trying to make these comments to undermine his charity truly need a lesson in humanity.

    • Racesunite

      I have been to many countries in my life and this is the only country that I know where people actually get criticized for actually trying to do the right thing. It’s like this idea is foreign to many of these people. This guy get’s criticized for giving buns out to the homeless cause he is the moron. And remember the case of where this girl got run over by a bus and a car and an old lady went in to save her??? She literally get criticized for it.

      Sometimes it is actions like this where I am actually ashamed to have the colour yellow running through my blood. Whatever happened to the benevolence of Lui Bei, The virtues of Song Jiang? The humanity of Guan Yin?

      Tell me I am wrong, but I am pretty sure the people who are calling this man an idiot is probably a teenager or in thier young twenties. The same people who believe that the homless can simply get a job is in the same age group.

      Who will give you a job if you have no address?
      Who will give you a job when you have no skills?
      Who will give you a job when you have no feet? hands? physical defect?
      Who will hire you if you have an IQ of a child?

      There are many reasons why people are homeless and all of them don’t want to be there. Don’t be so quick to judge. It’s true that they say this generation has never really suffered any hardships. If they had, then this younger generation of people will understand the importance of doing work like this regardless if you think the beggers are liars. Newsflash for most of you who believe this, YOU SAY THIS TO MAKE YOURSELF SLEEP BETTER AT NIGHT!

      Don’t go judging other people
      What have you’ve done that has benefitted this world?
      PS this does not include what your Mommy or Daddy did in thier own lives.

    • tai wai

      But what if these people could already afford food? That means they’re eating for free! They’re professional eaters!

      Best to not give anyone any food.

      • jeffli

        @ tai wai
        So you are admitting there is a problem with this society?

        Oh yeah the “homeless guy” actually has a split level condo and a series 7 BMW. pwppwp!

        • tai wai

          There are always cheats and free riders. They are not an excuse to be selfish.

      • Racesunite

        If they are begging for it, they probably need this food more than you do.

  • bomber

    It’s only interesting because there’s a foreigner doing the dispensing. In 50 years this kind of behavior won’t surprise Chinese people.

  • blah

    Just another political correctness madness, he such an idiot. The UK is bankrupt with China buying its ports, buildings and towns, yet this asshole brings help to his future masters.

    • vince

      Oh boy, another troll and go take some english language classes please.

    • Racesunite

      You sound like the idiot.

  • vince

    This guy has achieved something most of us haven’t a sense of purpose and fulfillment, hopefully his efforts gain popularity and blossom into something bigger.

  • JinaSensei

    Amazing how people spit on the unfortunate. Who cares if they are employed or not. Every single person has to eat. Why question if they have a job or a working body. Why blast people for simply caring for another human being? Why are hearts so evil that people get pissed if money THAT ISN’T EVEN THEIR OWN gets spent on feeding a person. Seriously. People are jerks and they totally don’t have to be.

  • Dat Ankle

    Its wonderful to see someone helping the less fortunate in China, I like his rule of not asking question about how they came to their situation but not about them choosing that lifestyle, nobody choose to be homeless it sort of just happens. I hope things like this will inspire other people to do the same though.

  • Tom

    To the writer: come on man!
    If you want to make him sound so waaa, at least take the photo off with the iphone.
    sports car? its a normal common 3 series at most 320i not even sport model.
    its not a mansion, just a normal house in the countryside!

    • redgirl

      How much is unicorn food around your way?

    • Racesunite

      Good good, you had your say, no go back home and spend your daddy’s money because we all know you are pretty useless.

  • http://www,facebook.com/kedafu Kedafu

    For all of you 牛Bs out there

    Song of the Article

    Tina Turner
    - we dont need another hero

    http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMzc2NTUxNzI4.html

    + 五毛党

    Good Morning China, 950am

  • Fraser

    What I don’t get is how he got a visa to do that for 7 years. I thought the CCP kicked people out after 5 years. You know, thanks for stopping by, now fuck off. In any other country he would qualify for permanent residence, but in China it’s just “you’ve been here too long, get the fuck out”.

    If we could vote, I would vote Tony for president of China. I couldn’t ever picture Hu Jintao or Wen Jiabo handing out steamed buns to homeless people.

    • tai wai

      What I don’t get is how he got a visa to do that for 7 years. I thought the CCP kicked people out after 5 years.

      Plenty of people are able to renew for more than 5 years. It all depends on the bureaucrat processing your Visa, of course, as is everything in China.

      In any other country he would qualify for permanent residence, but in China it’s just “you’ve been here too long, get the fuck out”.

      You can apply to become a permanent resident in China after 3 years (if you are wealthy or high level), or 5 years if you are stable (job, residence) and married. Or, if you are an elder, who only has family in China.

      Residency is, but it is possible.

      http://www.gov.cn/english/2005-08/29/content_27379.htm

      • tai wai

        Residency is rare, but it is possible.

        Fixt

        • Alva

          Residency is very easy, permanent residency is not. I dont know anyone with such advantage here, even after 10 years and married to a local..!

  • Bunny99

    What’s the difference between Histrionic Personality Disorder and narcissism? 99% of my friends are one or the other – I am just a simple socio-path :)

    I wonder what visa category he comes under – hippie?

    He certainly means well, and is a good guy, maybe his approach isn’t the most efficient way to help people, but I can’t think of a better one.

    Good luck to him, he is a better person than I

  • Bunny99

    my internet connection is slow – my question was answered before I posted it

    Awesome!

  • Jose

    His heart is in the right place, but at the end of the day the old adage holds true: Give a man a fish and he’ll eat for a day, teach a man to fish and he’ll never go hungry. What they could really use is his electronics expertise in job training…

    • tai wai

      Can you teach a man with no arms to fish?

      How does he hold the net?

      • moop

        his mouth and/or toes. ever seen that girl on chinese tv who does the painting with her feet. ever heard of christy brown? the disabled can still work, its just harder for them

        but anyways, this guy is an individual doing what he chooses with his own property, nothing to condemn him for.

        • tai wai

          his mouth and/or toes. ever seen that girl on chinese tv who does the painting with her feet. ever heard of christy brown? the disabled can still work, its just harder for them

          I was speaking metaphorically (since “Teach a man to fish…” is a metaphor).

          Some people are just incapable of work.

          A few we give a pass to, we feel they deserve to not work (the elderly, for example). But homeless people? “Get a job, you lazy bum!”

        • http://www.bestvpninchina.com Rod

          I just noticed you are not the only moustachioed animal here. How do you feel about that?

          • moop

            whiskers is cool, there’s room for two. but god help the next man who sports a mustached animal for an avatar

          • http://500px.com/whiskersthecat whiskersthecat

            This cat’s mustache is based on a true story, my one achievement in life

          • http://www.bestvpninchina.com Rod

            Fortunately, mine is humanoid.

    • Ed

      Again, I think we tend to forget that for many of these homeless there are valid reasons for their state of being. I have met some of them and quite a few seem to be mentally disabled or disturbed. They have come from the rural areas to find work and their mental conditions make it hard to find and retain a job. Unfortunately China does not (yet) deal well with these cases. If you are a minor you will be rounded up and institutionalized in semi-prison compounds. Not sure if you are actually better off there. I have worked with an NGO trying to find simple jobs for some of these people once they reach the legal age, and even then the bureaucracy and paperwork are frustrating.

      Most of the orphanage in Xi’an are overflowing with babies with cleft lips which have been abandoned by their parents for various reasons (shame, fear or mediacal costs, whatever …). Here also China does not have the mentioned social safety net yet. It is very true that these problems should be solved at the core, but this will take time and in the meantime the priority is to keep these kids alive.

      Also, please note that nobody is handing out money to homeless people. They are providing very, very simple food. Some soup, rice and baozi. And some warm blankets and clothing for the winters. Those within Xi’an’s City Walls are expected to come to the soup kitchen themselves. Those further away are being provided for by volunteers delivering food. There is nothing glamarous about having to walk across town three times a day to receive some food. I would be extremely surprised if any of the mentioned professional beggars would go through such a hassle. Again, the goal here is to at least help these people survive …

  • Roose

    When I typed this message there were 227 comments, most of them were people having a go at each other. Can’t we all just agree that this guy Tony is a modern-day saint. If only there were more people like him, not just in China but in every country.
    Yes some of the comments by Chinese users are appalling, but then if I’m being honest and I saw that many beggars in the UK and they were all grabbing on to Chinese tourists’ legs and not letting go until they got 50p then I would be pretty pissed off too. Just like the anti-eveybody-who’s-not-chinese racism and nationalistic crap we all hear in China, most of it is just plain ignorance and hopefully if enough ordinary young Chinese people follow Tony’s example then it will eventually be stamped out.

    • tai wai

      I don’t see a last name in the article. Shame, I’d like to try and contact him, see how he set this all up. How tough it would be to copy…

      • tai wai

        Ah, nevermind.

        I found it, thanks Ed.

        Ed
        Thursday, September 20, 2012 at 11:19 pm
        No problem. You can contact Tony through the soup kitchen website. http://www.yellowrivercharity.com

  • erguotouplease

    Salute

  • Alexander

    Western Countries have been helping other nations for hundreds of years. The Red Cross Internationale’ send medical volunteers to places like Africa to help the sick. The US Peace Corps spends 375 million dollars a year sending people all over the world to do improvement projects. Churches do missions around the world and send supplies and even medical aid to poorer nations. Westerners in China donate alot of money to charities and even donate blood, as do many Chinese people. This guy is just doing what has already been done around the world, and that’s great! Just do an internet search on humanitarian projects in Africa and you will see hundreds…. Unfortunately this guys model, is just simply giving out food, its not sustainable, what I mean is, once he has no money or he dies, the whole project ceases. Then what do the poor do? Go back to starving? The old saying is “give a man a fish and you feed him for a day, teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime.” Anyways, thumbs up to this guy and the thousands of humanitarian volunteers around the world, especially in Africa…… WE ARE ALL LUCKY TO BE IN CHINA AND NOT AFRICA…… just imagine being a volunteer in the middle of Sudan or Somalia…..OMG! Cheers to them, for getting their asses away from the computer and iphone and actually doing something……. :)

  • Stu

    ““Some people say I shouldn’t help them (the homeless people), that they have houses and cars in their hometowns.””

    Yeah, I’ve heard this too. Of all the implausible things I’ve heard in China, it’s probably the least plausible. So you’re saying this old dude is rich enough to have a house… and a car… and he’s spending his days kneeling on the Beijing concrete with a bowl in front of him? What, for fun or something?

  • kamui

    not all laowai are the same, there are still good ones Zhongguoren

    • Racesunite

      I don’t get it I really don’t. There was an article about a foreign man spitting on a woman and everyone on the internet lights up and says that all foreigners are racist. Well here is a story about a foreigner who is clearly not racist and wants to help but people criticise him for it.
      “oh he is stupid because these beggars have a house and a car”
      “Should teach a man to fish”

      Really!!!!! I mean really?????

      What have any of you done to help humanity? What have any of you done that makes this guys work looks so shameful????

      Get in perspective people

  • Foreign Devil

    “The Party’s education will never produce this kind of people. Instead there would be a Chen Guangbiao, but he cares about politics more than he cares about poor people. If one day our ordinary common people stopped protesting against foreign governments, and used the enthusiasm we have criticizing Japanese devils and American imperialists to criticize our own government, then our nation would be truly civilized.”

    Amen brother! My point of view on this issue is exactly the same. . hard to believe you are Chinese!

    • Racesunite

      That’s where you are wrong, you can criticize the government people all you want but the fact of the matter is that governments all over the world are the same way. Why do you think no President in the United States banned guns even though it is the number one cause of homicide in America? Because the amount of people who carry guns in the United States out number the ones who don’t. If the president bans guns, they will not be re elected. One example of politics over doing the right thing.

      • sonny

        @racesunite

        i understand your point, but your analogy is all over the place:

        1. the number one cause of homicide in the united states is being an asshole — the gun itself is really only a means, albeit an effective one.

        2. (cue boromir) one does not simply “ban guns”. only congress can introduce new laws. the president can only help parley or veto.

        3. in a republic, elected representatives are generally supposed to do what the people tell them. it’s actually a pretty good system for most.

        • moop

          you forgot to mention that it is illegal for such a ban to even take place with the second amendment still in place. guns are legal in the US not just so people can defend themselves from the bad guys, the actual reason is to protect ourselves from government, our own government as well as foreign. i’m not sure what is morally just about having a government with a 100% monopoly of force. look at how police already treat the citizens of the US today even though people have firearms. they just shot a man in a wheel chair the other day, a guy with one arm, one leg and a pen in his hand. shot him inside his own home.

  • Jennster

    To me it doesn’t matter if the beggar is a fake or not. I give those people asking for $1 for train ticket money my spare coins becaue regardless it’s fake it’s only lose a mere few dollars and if it’s real then you’ve done a good deed. same as the beggars in china. the people there not giving are so stingy and cheap.

    in conclusion: ren zai zuo tian zai kan (what humans are doing, sky is looking)

  • bert

    God bless this guy!

    • Racesunite

      Amen

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