Unlicensed Porsche Driver Hits Pregnant Woman, Kills Husband

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From NetEase:

Post-90s Generation Driving Porsche Causes Trouble: Hits Pregnant Woman, Kills Her Husband

ChinaNews Hangzhou January 18 report — On the night of the 18th, police in Zhejiang Hangzhou released information stating that the driver who maliciously hit a person with his motor vehicle near Hangzhou’s West Lake has already been lawfully arrested by local public security organs. That day, this reporter confirmed with the traffic police department that this post-90s generation offender Sun X was driving without a license.

As it is understood, at around 11:48pm on January 16th, 22-year-old Zhejiang Zhoushan male Sun X was driving a Porsche Cayenne with Zhejiang Ningbo plates. While reversing near the intersection of Baochu Road and Baoshi Lane in Hangzhou’s West Lake area, he collided with a duck neck late-night snack vendor stand on the side of the road.

Afterward, 37-year-old Jiangxi natives and the vendor sand operators Wang X and his wife went forward to speak with him. During this time, the two sides had a heated argument. Unexpectedly, Sun X attempted to forcible drive away from the scene, and instead knocked Wang X and his 8-month pregnant wife onto the ground.

Location of accident

Location of accident

What more, instead of getting out to help Wang X and his wife at this time, Sun X instead persisted in fleeing. Wang X angrily went forward to block Sun X’s car demanding the matter be resolved. Both sides again were caught up in an argument.

Suddenly, an even more unbelievable scene happened: Sun X ignored Wang X who was blocking his car, slammed the gas, sent him flying, and then proceeded to leave as if nothing had happened.

Early morning on the 17th, Wang X and his wife were sent to the nearby Hangzhou City Traditional Chinese Medicine Hospital for emergency treatment.

According to medical personnel at the hospital, Wang X’s wife showed signs of miscarriage and after emergency efforts, both mother and unborn child remain in unstable condition. Regrettably, Wang X died despite emergency efforts.

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After being called, the local public security organs quickly tracked down the offending Porsche and driver who had fled. Around 2am on the 17th, Sun X was arrested on Qingchun Road in Hangzhou’s Xiacheng district.

Through investigation, Sun X was driving without a license, and police initially placed him on administrative detention for 15 days.

A tragedy that never should have happened, but because of Sun X’s ignorance and impulsiveness, two families have now been ruined. On the evening of the 18th, after preliminary hearings, Sun X was lawfully arrested as a criminal suspect by public security organs. The case is currently undergoing further investigation and prosecution.

(Original title: Follow-Up to Zhejiang Post-90s Generation Second-Generation Rich [child of rich parents] Hitting Pregnant Woman with Porsche: Already Arrested By Police)

Pregnant woman receiving medical care

Pregnant woman receiving medical care

Comments from NetEase:

网易湖南省长沙市手机网友 ip:118.252.*.*:

Jointly sign to demand this person be executed by firing squad! Those in agreement, click ding [over 13k upvotes at time of translation]! Human scum, beast!

伏龙尊者 [网易四川省网友]:

This kind of post-90s retard without humanity, should just be arrested and immediately shot within 10 minutes!!!

网易安徽省网友 ip:36.62.*.*:

The result of being spoiled by one’s parents. The faults of the son is the fault of the father is completely correct!!!

This little bastard, to be frank, if he had to use his own money, he wouldn’t even be able to afford a TT, hehe!

Without his parents, he’s nothing!

指那拆那 [网易广东省深圳市网友]:

Being arrogant just because of having some money, other than second generation apes, it can only be second-generation rich. No wonder all of society hates on government officials and the rich.

网易中国网友 ip:103.19.*.*:

“Through investigation, Sun X was driving without a license, and police initially placed him on administrative detention for 15 days.” This sentence is revealing.

oaipiqnehc [网易广西钦州市网友]:

If this person is not executed, the people’s anger will not be satisfied! Those rich second generation rich and ** [official] second generation criminals who would do the same and disregard the lives of others will not be deterred!!

指那拆那 [网易广东省深圳市网友]:

Crime of intentional homicide, immediately execute!

网易广东省惠州市网友 ip:112.92.*.*:

Yet another “second generation” type causing trouble. This type of thing truly deserves to die.

受天下之垢 [网易山东省淄博市网友]:

These sort of incidents are occurring so often that I’m already tired of reading about them…

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  • Irvin

    Moral of the story, don’t block cars with your own body.

    • Surfeit

      You heartless “fils de bast”.

      • donscarletti

        Yeah, and you’re such a figure of loving mercy calling for this kid’s blood.

        • Surfeit

          I’m not seeing how being merciful to this kid is related to my moral judgement of the op. I believe mercy and morality are very different things, and that the same standards can not, and should not, be applied to perpetrator and victim in this circumstance.

          With similar modus operandi his comment insults an innocent dead man, while my comment (calling for blood) is for a wrongdoer. I’m invoking debatable principles of Ethical Theory, he is being crass. Putting those things side by side is elementary at best.

    • donscarletti

      Or even more so, the body of your 8 month pregnant wife and unborn child, especially if you already know that the driver is in a fight-or-flight reaction and unlikely to be thinking clearly. Though it’s pretty clear which way the bile machine is turned on this thread so there is not much point arguing here.

      I would suggest more Chinasmack readers try driving in China for a week before commenting on any more road related stories.

      • David

        I am not sure I understand why you think we should drive in China. I think (unlike in China) most of us have been driving for many years, 33 in my case. I have driven in worse places (the middle east, in a war zone, Korea in the early 80’s, the Philippines outside the cities). I have spend the last year riding in buses, taxis and private vehicles here and have so many ridiculous accidents/deaths from people who should not be allowed to operate any heavy machinery that it is crazy. Most of the cars in Wuxi do not use their headlights at night and none use them when it is raining or foggy. people drive on the wrong side of the road even on streets divided by a boulevard. People run out in the road without looking anywhere but on their phones and drivers act like there are no other cars on the road. I know it is crazy to drive here but that is not an excuse to run people over whenever you want because your rich and can afford the payment. What do you think driving here will teach us?

        • Probotector

          “Most of the cars… do not use their headlights at night…”

          Right, but they do use them in the daytime for some reason, and the bikes especially do.

          In all seriousness, been riding motor cycles in China for four years now and I’ve never had an accident. All you have to do is be vigilant and compensate for other drivers’ carelessness and incompetence.

          • ScottLoar

            Many years in mainland China and I have yet to see cars or motorcycles or any wheeled vehicles using the headlights during the day, no, not even when fog/pollution/haze/rain reduce visibility to near naught. Some cars but especially motorcycles and other wheeled vehicles do not use headlights at night because – and this was also true of Taiwan years ago – people commonly believe using the car or motorcycle headlights runs down the battery. Hard to believe? Go ask, go ask.

            Why don’t drivers keep the windshield wipers running during rains? Because wipers are expensive, and so turning them on-off-on-off-on-off saves wear on the wipers. Yep, hard to believe but… go ask, go ask. Their reply will be in a tone or accompanied by a look that says, “You just don’t understand; everybody knows that…”

            Now, why don’t drivers brake or slow down rather than weave around or bull on through horn blaring?

          • Probotector

            I was wondering when you’d come to troll me. Just because you haven’t seen it doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen, Perhaps you should pay more attention to your surroundings. It is common here in Henan with e-bikes at least. With cars, no I haven’t seen it.

            You’re correct about them driving with lights off at night to save power on e-bikes, but that’s hardly a valid excuse vis a vis the risk of accidents due to decreased visibility at night. Moreover, leaving them off at night to save power kind of rediculous when they leave them on during the day.

            As for “Go ask, go ask.” seriously, you still use that patronising tone with people? Why can’t you talk to people normally?

          • ScottLoar

            Troll you? I don’t even know who you are.

            I tell you, “go ask, go ask” because obviously you haven’t asked and remain clueless, which questions why don’t you pay more attention to your surroundings?

            Troll you? Sorry, but posting in a public forum does not allow you to pick and choose who may reply. I commented on what you said, and you accuse me of – this is rich! – trolling you, as if you merit some special attention. You’re just a moniker behind the content of your comments, so if shit falls on you look to the content of your comments.

          • Probotector

            The reason I call it trolling is because you respond with such patronising fervor, and this isn’t the first time with me or others.

            Typing “just ask just ask” can be interpreted as if you’re talking to me like I’m an imbecile or something.
            Just because someone said something you disagree with, does not mean you need to get so upset about it.

            In any case, I am not clueless on this matter, and just because you, in all your arrogance and self-appointed wisdom, don’t agree with me doesn’t make you correct.

            Furthermore, making me out to be a liar or somehow imbecilic because you don’t accept what I said speaks volumes about your attitude towards people and your need to have everyone agree with you, lest you feel somehow cheated or wronged.

            It’s not about special attention, and if you want to disagree with me, fine, but let’s do it in a civilised fashion. Do you think you can do that? do you? Do you?

          • ScottLoar

            I doubt so, I doubt so, I doubt so, and I surely don’t need your agreement to know whether I’m right or not.

            Again, I don’t know who you are other than a moniker; it is the content of your comments that makes me reply, and yours was just a single comment. And now this. Say, don’t you have any means other than protest you’re not a liar or imbecilic?

          • Probotector

            “I surely don’t need your agreement to know whether I’m right or not.”

            Same here

            Let’s agree to disagree then.

          • DavidisDawei

            Scott
            I have enjoyed reading many of your posts.
            You seem to be a treasure trove of information and life in China/Taiwan, but you can come across as condescending at times.

            I would simply say that it is probably possible for two people to experience things differently in the same place. In addition, maybe the other person you are writing to has as much experience and even if not more, different experience that may not match yours.

          • Boris_Da_Bengal_Tiger

            “All you have to do is be vigilant and compensate for other drivers’ carelessness and incompetence.”

            I was waiting at a traffic light in my E-Bike and some guy still managed to rear end me. There is only so much you can do.

          • DavidisDawei

            Wow – lucky?
            I’m sure you are a very good rider, but As long as you see Them AND they see you…
            You are putting your faith in others that might not have earned it. China, US, anyplace there are so many unconscious drivers.
            bigger vehicle = more likely to survive accident

          • Probotector

            I think luck does have a lot to do with it, but then, I used to be in the air force, so vigilance and quick reflexes are second nature to me. It’s still a dodgy place to ride mind you, and I have near misses all the time.

  • lacompacida

    “lawfully arrested by security organs” That’s a really big news. Unprecedented in China. This is big change. All arrests before this were all unlawful.

  • Surfeit

    This family has as much sympathy as I can offer. Trying to hustle a living only to have life taken away by some reckless pitiful ball-bag specimen, that in all probability cultivated from the degenerate fabric of a vile, ugly, and debased class of people, bred by a besmirched civilisation that stains the very ground it occupies. There’s a million wrongs that need to be put right, but this one has really hit a spot. I say we kill the boy.

    • tomoe723

      if given a gun pointed at this “reckless pitiful ball-bag specimen”, would you be willing to pull the trigger?

      • narsfweasels

        There’s only one way to find out.

      • Boris_Da_Bengal_Tiger

        I am a supporter of the death penalty when it can be applied fairly and not liberally.

        The problem some people see is that people who have connections and/or money are above the law. And when such people commit a crime, we want them to face harsher penalties than your average day folk.

        The question becomes the crime and how sure people are that it was committed by the person.

        From the report, we have seen that the guy hit the vendor’s stand. Instead of sorting it out, he argued and then tried to run away and hit both the vendor and his wife. He then ran over the man, killing him. This is not accidental. This was deliberate. This kind of act deserves the harhest punishment, which in this case is death.

        Would I pull the trigger? I don’t know. But the culprit does deserve his punishment.

        • tomoe723

          I’m not really sure where I stand on the death penalty. In a tribal society, it has its efficiency implemented through vigilante killings and the likes. Keeps the peace through fear. In a bureaucratic one like you mentioned, corruption exists that can leave the penalty rule pointless. However, it’s one thing to wish to kill someone and another to let the “law” handle it?? Those affected personally would probably want to kill the scum, and I can totally understand that. But even though I’ve been thru similar situations, I couldn’t bring myself to pull the trigger.

      • Surfeit

        If I was as angry as when I posted, I’d certainly imagine it to be possible. Right now, I’d have someone else do it. Does this satisfy your question?

        • tomoe723

          i don’t know.. did it satisfy your anger? it’s fairly easy to utter such words at the height of emotions, and who knows your actions could get out of control if you let your emotions get the better of you. the question afterwards is: will you regret doing so, or you feel justified you done it?

    • Dr Sun

      what if was your son or daughter, still kill them ?

      • loki

        (what if) yeah let use the “what if” question… What if superman flew to the moon and gathered moon rocks and stuffed them into your head? Dr. Sunshine… your an idiot troll…
        If ( and that is one BIG Fncking “IF”) it was my kid, and he did this. He better be man enough to take responsibility for his actions. That is how he would be raised! Sad, yeah sure but in the grand scheme of things if my son did these unspeakable things. he deserves whatever punishment he gets…

      • Surfeit

        What if what if and the what ifs of what if. If whats on the whats of ifs ever if’d on the whats of the if ifs? If what then what? What what what, if what what if. Only then could we what if the ifs and all the ifs whats a the whats ifs if what.

  • ESL Ninja

    Fucking scum.

  • Hugh G. Rection

    I hope these “Police Organs” mercilessly butt fuck him to death.

    • Nessquick Choco

      Unfortunately.. I do not think so :-)

      Long time no see you, Mr.Hugh. how is going there ? Daughter is growing well ?

  • Elijah

    No wonder he died, he went to a Traditional chinese “medicine” hospital.

    Let’s stick needles in random places, give him some disgusting herbal tea, use ground up parts of some endangered animal (not working unless something is going extint!) and then shake some sticks for a prognosis…

    Sucks worse for the wife/mother. Kid’s coming soon and thrre’s no breadwinner in a society with little to no charity. Not to mention her prospects are extremely limited now. Might remarry and then the first kid will an outcast compared to the second kid with the new husband.

    PS. Love the emphasis on blaming his age rather than upbringing. It’s like he popped into the fully formed with no input from the baby boomer generation (not in cS, the article I mean).

    • miomeinmio

      I’m more concerned about WHY they went to that hospital, you know? Was it because it was closest, did they have nowhere else to go? Was it a money matter, or an education one? Why the hell, apter getting hit by a fucking car, whould you go to a TCM hospital?

      Surely people know modern injuries require modern medicine.

      PS: Awesome Icon. :D

      • Zappa Frank

        how come injuries are “modern”?

        • Nessquick Choco

          When TCM invented there was no cars nor planes. so to have body crushed and squeezed as towel after wash, is nothing for TCM treatment :P

          • Zappa Frank

            ..yes, too bad he wasn’t crushed by a herd of horses, in this way the TCM would have had effect… they should put on an advise with something like “come to us only if you have an anciet style injury”

          • Nessquick Choco

            probably, this may be the way to maximize its effect ?
            Hmm, horse party … sounds good. someone for meatballs ?

          • anon101

            Frank.. wife and kid sleep beside me and your comment made me laugh out loud.. u ass, im in trouble now…

          • Dr Sun

            ever heard of a horse falling on you, see how works ot for you.

          • anon101

            well, better than a car… there are 750 million horses and only 217 deaths in 2009.. put that in contrast to cars… whilst in china 1 car is around 1 death every 6 years (the car statistic was made up but seems legit).

        • Kate

          Well no one got ran over by cars in ancient china lol

          • Middle_Kingdum

            Ha ha,

          • Dr Sun

            but they did by horses and elephants, and my guess is a elephant weighs more than even a Hummer

        • miomeinmio

          A car is a modern implement, that causes a very different kind of damage than what we saw 100 years ago. Damage is damage, sure, but there’s no way TCM was meant to deal with tires, steel, and horsepower.

          That’s what I meant.

          • Zappa Frank

            i would ask what TCM is actually meant to deal with, but sincerelly i’m afraid to flame…

          • miomeinmio

            Hahaha… That IS the question, isn’t it? :P

          • TJDubs

            Mainly shanghuo and impotence.

          • Dr Sun

            ? horsepower

            ever fell off a horse at gallop- 20mph +, ever got hit by a horse, ever had a horse fall on you ? ask Christopher Reeves about the differences between a horse and a motorbike or car.

    • Dr Sun

      traditional Chinese medicine has a very…very…very long history and it works. Before you talk crap, try to understand what it is.

      • Kate

        i think what he meant was traditional chinese medicine can’t help you when you have internal bleeding caused by being ran over by a car

        • Dr Sun

          kate, nor can western medicine, believe me 20 odd years as a Trauma surgeon , most trauma victims from severe crush/ blunt injuries (level 1), die within 3 weeks, even after millions of dollars has been spent on the best surgery, nursing and in the best hospitals.

          • Mister.Y

            And yet if you used TCM instead, all, not most, would be dead within days or even hours.

            /slowclap

          • anon101

            yeah, the guy who got the tcm in the article above died within hours…

      • hess

        “and it works. ” Never go full retard.

        • SzMach5

          I’m not an expert in traditional Chinese medicine but I’ve had success with one traditional Chinese herb (or medicine). I think it’s called Banlangen, and it works at least for me whenever I’m coming down with the cold or sore throat.

          • anon101

            ever tired lemsip max strength,, works in less than an hour…

          • SzMach5

            I’ve never heard of lemsip. I’ve only tried Tylenol before

          • anon101

            http://www.lemsip.com/remedies/lemsip-max-range.php

            works wonders… Never tried Tylenol, so cant compare.

        • Elijah

          I know right? I was with him until long history part, but then he said it works and I couldn’t stop myself from snorting a bit. Not towards him, but at that idea. chinese “medicine” has been proven to be as effective as placebos… Seriously, look up the massive amounts of data done on the subject and you’ll see that the result are almost always random or a correlation, not causation. Add to that the immense amount of animal cruelty and outright slaughter employed and that whole practice becomes repulsive. I’m all for new discoveries of compounds in plants previously unexplored, but that’s real medicine that’s based on science, not jibberish and snake oil.

          • Zappa Frank

            it works in the same way the ancient wester medicine, with a very very very long story as well, worked..

          • Dr Sun

            Elijah, ignorance may be bliss for you, Trying to apply western scientific analysis to TCM, is not going to work.
            Btw Elijah, bet you don’t know how often placebos are used successfully in both medical trails and hospital treatment in the west… pretty scary for you right ?

            your knowledge of TCM obviously comes from CNN as anyone that really has even a modecum of understanding about TCM, knows its pretty much all plant based..

            I assume your knowledge of TCM only come from and is restricted to penis enlargement and ED ads on porn sites.

          • Mister.Y

            TCM: Because when science is too difficult, call it “Western” and use magic instead.

          • Dr Sun

            nope, no magic at all, just good medicine. Its just plants, the right mix for the individual patient, call it personalized medicine if you want, not one generic artificial drug, one dose for all. TCM is way beyond the understanding of most western doctors, as it doesn’t come out of formula book, but out of the physicians own understanding not just the patients physical illness, but their mental status, their personality, their life, its way beyond medicine currently practiced in the west,
            But given a few more thousand years the west may catch up..

          • Mister.Y

            I’ll just assume you’re a troll because no one can be as stupid as you make yourself to be.

          • Elijah

            Hahahahahaha, I’m not even high right now and that’s laughable at best. Sorry dude, you and I will have to agree to disagree about this subject.

            Medicine is medicine because it works, doesn’t need any qualifiers or adjectives in front. But don’t believe me, let’s do a bit of reading shall we?

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medicine

            http://www.cmaj.ca/

            http://www.nejm.org/

            Would you look at that, it’s almost as if the cases presented were based on independently verifiable experiments (ie: empirical science) with cases going back to 2,000BC in Egypt (4,000 years for those keeping count).

            How about “medicine”?

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traditional_Chinese_medicine

            http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/asian-bear-bile-remedies-barbarism-or-medicine/

            http://www.environment.gov.au/archive/biodiversity/trade-use/publications/symposium/tiger.html

            So even the most liberal of apologists have a hard time swallowing that load (pun unintended, but appreciated nonetheless). Over 1.500 animal species used today including 100s on the endangered list. First records come from 1,100BC (3,100 years for those counting).

            Not to mention a massive shift in china towards real medicine as opposed to this crap. Why do I mention the change in china? Because it’s an important indicator of not only effectiveness versus cost, but also of consumer demand and trust. People who believe in this “medicine” in other countries don’t count, because they’re just as apt to go for crystal healing or cleanses or whatever the fad of the month is.

            Now, I think I’ll go check that the balance of fire, wood, water, earth and metal in my internal organs are all good, my liver feels like there’s a bit too much earth or metal. Not sure exactly, but my sleep patterns and colour of my feces and urine will tell us. Then I can drink a homemade concoction or ‘yao’ that should balance me out eventually. Or my immune system will kick in and do it automatically…

          • Probotector

            Please can you explain then the TCM cure for being hit by a car?

          • Dr Sun

            same as the west- ambulance -hospital maybe live-maybe die

      • KamikaziPilot

        It works for some ailments like headaches but I doubt it was a good idea to use it after a car ran you over. I view TCM as something to consider if conventional Western medicine doesn’t work or maybe as a compliment but never as a replacement, unless it’s something minor. There just isn’t enough research to show that TCM works on a consistent basis.

        • Dr Sun

          Again, someone who knows nothing about TCM, it has been and is used very successfully in the treatment of both acute and chronic illness,

          • KamikaziPilot

            Well you’re someone who knows nothing about me. I have undergone TCM treatments for various ailments and also know others who’ve done the same. It seemed to work for my sinus infections and I have also heard stories of people feeling better from chronic conditions using TCM. But what I really base my opinion on is the research that doesn’t show a definitive cause and effect relationship between TCM and relief/cures from certain ailments, well at least not as definitive as compared to western medicine. Present me with more research showing it works then I may change my mind. Like I said, I do believe it helps for certain ailments but for serious conditions I’d rather go with Western medicine first and TCM as an alternative if all else fails. No doubt western medicine has it’s faults (ex. more side effects, profit driven) but at the end of the day, I’d have to trust it more than TCM.

            A final question: if you had to chose between having access to either TCM or Western medicine (but not both) for the rest of your life, which would you chose?

      • anon101

        yes, with the invention of the IV drip, the TCM expanded and now everyone who goes to hospital gets some good old sodium chloride drip (its a salt drip). yay, add some salt and everything is fine, but dont forget. drink this tea 3 times a day for 2 week and come in tomorrow for another drip…. in 2 weeks your cough will be gone.

        • Dax

          My girlfriend’s “TCM” treatment for a respiratory infection was herbs and a bunch of IV’s of penicillin. She refuses to accept that it wasn’t the herbs that cleared it up.

      • TJDubs

        That rhino horn sure gets you hard, huh?

        • Dr Sun

          never tried it don’t need it, did it work for you are you a Viagra guy ?

    • Kai

      A lot of hospitals in China have TCM in their name, carried over for historical reasons, but practice Western medicine just like any other hospital. It doesn’t necessarily mean they actually used stereotypical TCM remedies for his injuries. Search the hospital’s name and you’ll see that they have a fairly nice modern medical facility.

      • Elijah

        Oh I know, I was just being tongue in cheek.

        They’re screwed no matter what hospital they go to. Bathrooms without hot water, soap or even toilet paper that go uncleaned for weeks at a time it seems. They’re desperate to shove how many IV drips into you no matter if they’re needed or not (clean needles EVERY time? hmmmm…) A rather prosperous fake-certificate industry through out china. Drugs manufactured in china by the lowest bidder with the best connections.

        Wow, this is depressing and it’s killing my high. Gonna stop now and be happy that my Angel will be here in Canada in March, clean and safe.

        • bert

          Cleaning toilet paper? That’s a new one but in China no surpises there.

    • hess

      If only they’d given him hot water he might have been alive now.. I’m sure he got 上火 by being hit by that car.

      • Elijah

        That there is what we in the industry call a zinger, I do believe.

  • A Gawd Dang Mongolian

    Sounds less like he did it deliberately and more like some dumb rich kid doing what he does best: being dumb.

    A message really needs to be sent out. No matter how rich you are, or how well you’re parents are connected, you need to see consequences for stupidity.
    I see aggravated assault and manslaughter at best, attempted homicide at worst; lock that kid up. Don’t give him bail. He needs to spend time with some fellow inmates who don’t care who his dad is.

    • David

      Why would you want to spread lies? Of course all those things matter in China.

    • Dr Sun

      Ted Kennedy comes to mind, for some reason.

  • Marcus Black

    Heavenly Middle Kingdom………

  • Stefan Xu

    This makes me so angry, but sad for the husband and the pregnant wife. There is a high risk of a miscarriage now.

    This is one of the biggest things I really hate about China, second generation rich spoiled little emperor bratz playing around with daddy’s cash thinking they are somebody. Their parents and grandparents have been feeding them with a golden spoon and wiping their ass with golden toilet paper since they were born. They haven’t been brought up properly, nobody have said no to them, they have almost been like a pet of the family. They think life is like a video game, Like GTA, “just drive over the person, I don’t care”.

    In my opinion the driver should be executed before he creates an offspring. He killed a person and there’s a risk he will kill another person, so he is already a murderer. I hope he gets executed in this way.

    http://d22r54gnmuhwmk.cloudfront.net/photos/5/gl/yw/klGlywgmJjGXPAj-556×313-noPad.jpg

    • Guang Xiang

      LOL Pizza Hut, is that your favorite chain?

      Yea, I know what you mean about the 富二代,but don’t lose hope. I actually am good friends with one who is self-conscious about her upbringing and always drops some cash for beggars whenever she sees one, even though I told her not to because some of them might be scams. Thinking back, I could learn some things from her.

      • Stefan Xu

        Look closely, Pizza Huh :)

        • Zappa Frank

          i like more your previous avatar…

        • David

          Well, nobody will accuse you of having a girly avatar now, that is for sure. Weird, but not girly.

        • KamikaziPilot

          Is your avatar supposed to be a self portrait?

    • Merohedral

      So you like seeing pictures of young women being shot point blank by an AK47? What a sick individual you are. You could have found another picture to illustrate your point.

      The driver in this story probably deserves to be executed, but I don’t know about this woman on the picture. China does not have a good track record on the rule of law, and oftentimes the poor are wrongfully sentenced to prison or death.

      Seeing that picture makes me sick, I feel for that woman. Maybe she was a scammer, maybe she helped stash some drugs, or maybe she even sold drugs.. or maybe she did nothing, I don’t trust the Chinese justice system. And seeing that officer gleefully aiming at that poor woman’s head just makes me sad.

      • Nessquick Choco

        there is no drugscene in china. there is no scam in china. wtf are you talking about ?

      • KamikaziPilot

        Where in his post did he say he liked seeing pictures of young women being shot? He was merely illustrating a point. He didn’t say or even imply that he condoned what was happening in the picture.

        • Merohedral

          Well, I personally would not put up a picture of something I do not like, unless I want to use it as an example of something negative.
          He did indirectly condone what was happening in the picture by saying that this is the way the guy in the article should be executed.

          To illustrate his point, I am sure he could have found another picture of a firing squad execution of someone who really deserved it. Instead, he put up a picture of a country side woman of the 1990s (apparently it was Liu Jinfeng) who was abused by everyone she knew from the moment she was born. At one point, she couldn’t take it anymore and killed one of her abusers, who had killer her baby boy one day before. I think this photo is of bad taste.

          • KamikaziPilot

            Well I guess only the OP can truly tell us what he was thinking when he posted that picture but I know he’s a young (about 20) guy so he may not have thought it through. It may have just been the easiest picture to find. Admittedly I didn’t know the history of the person being executed but I’ve since did a little research on her and it is indeed a very sad story behind her execution. I will agree that the photo is in bad taste.

      • Probotector

        Agreed, though he doesn’t look gleeful to me, just cold and emotionless as in it’s all in a day’s work to shoot somebody bound and helpless.

        I saw this CS article a while back

        http://www.chinasmack.com/2011/pictures/10-beautiful-chinese-women-executed-over-the-past-30-years.html

        I feel bad for the girl who was kept prisoner as a sex slave, repeatedly raped, whose child produced from said rape was murdered, and upon escaping and killing her captor was herself put to death for murder. I guess taking the law into one’s own hands just to survive causes the China justice system to lose face.

        • Myk

          It actually looks like her (Liu Jinfeng) in the picture above, when you compare the clothes with the photos in the Article you linked to.

  • biggj

    Killing a chinese man with your car—-2500RMB
    Sending pregnant woman to hospital in critical condition—-1000RMB
    Getting off with your parents connections—-Priceless.

    • James Zheng

      Referencing an advertising campaign popular around 1999, -1000 karma.

      • biggj

        A chinese man with a with a first name “James” -1000 chinese harmony.

    • Dr Sun

      sadly, very sadly true,the sons and daughters of the Princelings, the dogs and the well connected can do whatever they please, there will be no jail time for this murderer.

  • vonskippy

    Very sad – but what were the couple thinking of? I don’t care where you live – you don’t go looking for a fight. Snap a picture of the car’s license plate, file a complaint at the police office. Waaaaaaaaaaaay to many crazies (this article proves that point ten-fold) that you don’t know what they will do or how they will react. It’s the cops job to enforce laws, not some guy with his 8 month pregnant wife in tow.

    • Guang Xiang

      I get you that life is more important than money but going to the police would have just resulted in the issue being swept under the carpet, considering the possible connections the scumbag has. There’s a reason why the go-to method that evolved in China is to block the car. Tragic, yes, but who would have thought he had the nerve to deliberately murder them.

      Edit: thinking about it more, the father really should have dropped the argument and take his wife to the hospital immediately

      • Nessquick Choco

        and, they will be fined for running illegal barbecue …

  • narsfweasels

    I remember when I saw this story on the Shanghai Daily website, it was quoted that the street was full of bars, that this happened at about 11pm, but when they found the driver the next day, they had already ruled out the possibility of him being drunk.

    I suppose there was a surfeit of working security cameras in the street to support this conclusion?

  • Guang Xiang

    As a soon-to-be father with a 8-months pregnant wife, this story hits me pretty hard

    • Boris_Da_Bengal_Tiger

      I’m also a soon-to-be father with a 8-months pregnant wife. If I was a member of that family, I would want the death penalty for the person who did the crime.

  • FYIADragoon

    The only time I feel slightly less ashamed of post-90s Americans is when I read about the antics of post-90s Chinese.

    • Kate

      well to be fair, some rich teenager drove drunk and killed a couple people but got off with probation and community service i believe last yr in the states….

      • DavidisDawei

        Yes – I don’t think it is simply a China problem, but It seems to be an accepted truth around the world today…
        You are either a “have” or a “have not”
        People may grumble and say life’s not fair, but we will continue to take it like the sheeple we are

  • MeiDaxia

    This translation seems a little like a machine translation in places, especially in the first section and specifically “public security organs.” While not incorrect, and probably a more direct transliteration, it is less like the traditionally better translated (at least in my opinion) articles to appear on CS.

  • lonetrey / Dan

    Provide the woman and child for the rest of his life.

    Make him pay alimony / child support for the rest of his life, so that he never forgets his cold-blooded murder. Jail time or no, I think the punishment should be about minimizing the financial damage done for the widow and child’s future.

    Then they can crank out additional punishment once the victims’ future are partially secured.

    • Kate

      i think he should serve jail time AND care for the woman and her child (if the child survives) financially.

      • David

        By the time her gets out of jail he can pay for the kids college.

        • Nessquick Choco

          And than they can marry each other and have joyful life :P

      • loki

        but you know in China, the woman will be in trouble for having a cart stand illegally. Chengguan will come and beat them til they leave the city. She will be living with her parents, waiting for the money owed for killing her husband and the babies father. After court finally hears both side and red bags have been dispersed to the police and judges. the total worth of her husband will be a few thousand yuan and the kid will get a 3 year deferred sentence (ie.. goes home with parents) …. the news will forget about it and move on to the next news making story.. All questions toward the PSB will be not answered and that it end of story……

        • Dax

          The questions would be answered if only we could find the Relevant Department.

    • Rick in China

      Wonderful supposition. We can hope. But I think this is more likely:

      – Woman ends up only survivor (maybe I’m misreading, but sounds like little baby in China wont fare so well in hospital, shit, people here are *afraid* to take their babies to hospital for small illnesses, this sounds much worse..lets be real)
      – Restitution offered, maybe several hundred k RMB
      – Woman accepts, seeing as it’s a lifetime of selling duck necks
      —-Our visibility ends here, but then probably:
      – Woman’s remaining family divvies most of it up or through other divisive means gets most of it away from her, for their own purposes

      • Cauffiel

        its a cruel, cruel world.

      • David

        Unfortunately this is exactly what I was thinking. The family will only see her as a cash cow and when the milk runs dry, she will be treated like a burden again.

    • DavidisDawei

      I read online a few years a go that as discretionary Income has risen, there have been an increase in life insurance policies in China with “Western” companies scrambling to get into the action.

      If you are the breadwinner and have dependents, then a life insurance policy is a necessity. I hate paying those bills too, but it is your responsibility to protect your family in the unlikely event you are no longer around to do so.

      • Paul Schoe

        A food peddler paying life insurance?
        Do you live in China?
        Any idea how hard life is for most of them?
        That many of them live from day to day,where the sales of one day decide the level of their personal food for the next day?

        I hate paying those bills too, but it is your responsibility to protect your family” shows to me an utter lack of empathy to the circustances in which these people live.

        I hope that you are not a politician, otherwise I would feel bad for the people in your society who are not as well off as you are.

        • DavidisDawei

          I considered that Paul, but wanted to keep my post as brief as possible.

          I was simply recalling a story I had read about China that some may have found interesting…maybe I could have left off the last part, but if I had a wife and (especially) a child, the basics (food, housing,etc) would be most important, but a life insurance policy (FOR ME) would be a high priority if I could afford it.

          Hangzhou is a major city. Can you say for sure that street vendors there do not have enough disposable income to afford some form of life insurance?
          I do not know the financial details of these folks, so I didn’t want to get into a long post explaining my thoughts further making assumptions.

          But yes, I agree with you…
          if you don’t have the disposable income, then life insurance is not going to be a consideration…
          I was making the assumption they had the DPI and the availability to purchase it.

          • Paul Schoe

            You are right in some way. I know several street vendors who litterally live day by day, but I also know a few that make over 10.000 rmb per month.

            Whether they know about life insurance and what that does, is a different issue. I would be very surprised and impressed if they had such knowledge.

  • Kate

    It was such BS. Yea poor little rich boy didn’t know hitting someone with his car was wrong because he was too privileged *eye roll*

  • Kate

    Can someone explain to me about the street vendors? Are all of them illegal because I thought they’re all over china

    • Zappa Frank

      i think they are usually “tollerated”… yes, they are all over

      • Kate

        Soo they’re technically not legal but they’re tolerated?

        • Zappa Frank

          well.. this is the way many things work in china.. and not only in china, because street vendors are tolerated also in my western country..

          • Kate

            I live in suburban area, we don’t really have many street vendors so I wouldn’t really know lol

  • narsfweasels

    “By getting in front of the car, the victim is at least partially responsible for bringing this situation on himself.”

    WTF is wrong with you? That’s like clicking your tongue and saying “Well, those idiots on those planes that hit the World Trade Center are partly to blame in their own deaths for getting on an airplane. There’s always a risk of hijacking!”
    You sound like that wh*re Meng Ge.

  • Ryo Saeba

    From what I’ve heard, the initial “collision” wasn’t all that serious. It was more of a bump. I mean, how fast can could the guy be going when he was backing up? Nobody in China backs up at more then 1kph. People in China would do a Y turn in the middle of a major road in their SUV taking their sweet time. They couldn’t care less about the traffic that’s backing up.

    In any case, it was more likely the street vendor saw the nice car and wanted compensation, just like most poor Chinese people would instinctively do. His life is not worth much anyway and he was stupid that he thought he had nothing to lose. I give ZERO sympathy for these poor fucks who put themselves in that situation in the first place. i.e. Having a wife and kid when you’re already piss poor. On top of that, he was selling shit illegally and shouldn’t of been there in the first place.

    In the end, at lease the wife, if she survives, will get a big chunk of money. That will put a big smile on her face. One that the husband couldn’t of give.

    • Zappa Frank

      even giving that, we are talking about a man died for nothing, just for a boy’s momento of rage
      ..if he should not be there, if all laws were applied, we would not talk about china..
      i don’t understand why some people think that if you are poor that you should not get married and have a child..

      • Ryo Saeba

        Wrong. He died because he wouldn’t let the matter go! And it wasn’t a “moment” of rage. They were arguing back and forth for a while.

        Having a wife and children should be a luxury, not a requirement. If you, as a man, can’t provide a good life for your family, wouldn’t you technically failed as a man?

        Why in hell would you bring a child to this earth just to suffer the same, or worse, fate then you? You may think your child will be smart and “make it” big, but in reality, this is highly unlikely.

        Here’s an article from Princeton: The Impact of Poverty on Children
        https://www.princeton.edu/futureofchildren/publications/journals/article/index.xml?journalid=53&articleid=284&sectionid=1868

        tl:dr
        “persistently poor children are more likely to end up as poor adults. ”
        “The important question about which there is debate is whether the things that extra money, above a subsistence level of income, would buy make a big difference in child outcomes. The answer to this question is a qualified “yes.””

        But that’s ok. Nothing I say will stop these idiots from having kids. And that’s fine with me because I will always need someone to wash my car, bring me my food, pump my gas, flip my burgers, and change my oil.

        • Zappa Frank

          i like the people like you who already know what is wrong or right wihtout any doubts…what are you doing here with such super powers? No doubts..it’s his own fault if he has been killed.. the fact that a boy was driving a car and it was not a natural forces like a tornado or a tsnami doesn’t make any difference.. “when the man on feet meet the man on cayenne the man on feet is a dead man”

          We are lucky that during the past 200.000 years humans didn’t share your idea that to have a child is a luxury or else we would not be here…
          Even to have a wife is a luxury? hahaha…. than for a wife to have an husband is a luxury too?

          Tell than, a man that cannot have a wife or children what is living for..?
          yes we should sterilize all poor people…

        • David

          I see the down votes but I don’t like anonymous down votes. So know that I down voted you because your comment is that of a self-centered and ignorant douche. Maybe in real life your a nice guy and you just make ignorant comments when you go on-line. I don’t know and don’t care. A man lost his life because some other self-centered and ignorant douche decided his time was more important that than another man’s life.

          • Ryo Saeba

            OMG! I complete stranger “down votes” me on the internet! It’s the end of my world as I know it! It seems that you care more then you think you don’t. Kinda pathetic really.

            With that said, what if you knew the street vender was selling dirty food that gave people food poisoning? Would you care as much about him then?

            I never said the guy driving the car was right but the illegal street vendor was simply asking for it, using the wife and unborn child as “bait.”

            All you people defending the street vendor immediately assume he’s a saint! Give me a fucking break. For all you know, the driver could of tried to scare the man a few times before finally driving through him because the idiot stood his ground!

          • David

            Well, I think that pretty much answers the question of whether your a douche or not in real life. I think you would benefit from a remedial English reading/writing class before making further comments, It should be “It seems that you care more than you think you do”. This is still a weird thing to write since I never said I didn’t care about your comment. What I didn’t care about was whether you were a nice guy in real life or not. Obviously I cared enough about your comment (in the negative sense) to tell you why I was voting you down.

            BTW your logic is as faulty as your English. You are making assumptions about the vender just as you are accusing others of making about the driver. You are assuming facts not in evidence.

          • Ryo Saeba

            Ah. The old “Your English sucks” comment. The last line of defense on the internet debate when name calling just isn’t enough. I feel sorry for you bro, I really do. I mean shit, who really cares about comment voting anyway? Seriously? Do you win real money? Do you unlock an achievement of some kind?

            BTW, your reading comprehension is faulty in itself so that pretty much puts everything that you said into simple bull shit. Notice I never said the vender “is” something but rather “could” be something. Just the same, you’re assuming the vender is a good family man trying to make a buck. If you’ve ever lived in China for a long time, you would realize many are thieves and lairs. Yes, I said “are” because it’s from personal experience.

            In any case, unlike the street vender, I will drop this and get on with my busy morning. Any replies will not be read by me so please direct your hatred for other people’s reading pleasures. May you get many up votes so that you can feel secure about yourself and that you feel you’ve “won” an internet debate. Cheers!

        • DavidisDawei

          Ryo Saeba,

          People are going to propagate. No license required.

          Expectations also need to be realistic. Not everyone is going to be the President, as horrible as it sounds, there are going to be economic classes and levels.

          What country do you live in?

          I agree poverty is an obstacle. I have observed in China that there is what I call a “slave class” supported by the gaokao.

          Education is never a bad thing unless it puts you into debt that cannot be re-paid, but doesn’t make up for “street smarts”. I have met quite a few people over the years who have done well financially from hard work, perseverance and self-discipline. They made the decision not to accept their lot in life and made the change.

          But, I suspect, it is easier for someone like Donald Trump, who started out with “$100 million” inherited from his Dad;

  • Probotector

    Just another day…

  • Ryo Saeba

    Don’t you know teachers are teachers because they suck at what they are teaching?

    • Probotector

      So everyone who’s a teacher is a bad teacher? Is that why you’re so ignorant?

      • Ryo Saeba

        Did I say “every” teacher? If a teacher was good at what they were teaching, they would be doing that “job” making more money then teaching. Indeed, there are always exceptions to the rule, but it is far from the majority.

        • Probotector

          Oh I see you mean “those who can’t, teach” right? So the concept of wanting to help others to develop just didn’t occur to you? Even if a person is a leader in their field, they may still choose to teach because they have a passion for it, so sometime they do it on the side of another profession, such as research. It seems like you have an axe to grind with teachers for some personal reason.

          • Ryo Saeba

            Indeed, there are always those few who are passionate about “help others to develop.” Again, these are the exceptions and in most cases, the rules do not apply to them. But for most, if they could make 2x, 3x, or 4x more money doing something in biology for example, it takes a LOT of passion to give that up.

        • Zappa Frank

          to choose a teacher career is not an option…i’m sorry for you if you had so many bad teachers.. should we sterilize them too?

      • mr.wiener

        Yo Probotector, long time no post. How’ve you been mate?

        • Probotector

          Hi, doing well, just gearing up to become a father I suppose, not long to go now…

          • mr.wiener

            Congrats, welcome to the end of this life and the start of a new one ha ha!

    • Paul Schoe

      Hi Ryo, looking at the down-votes, they really do not like your statement at ChinaSmack. ;-)

      I expect that many foreign teachers in China are English teachers and (hopefully) English is their native language. I can imagine that they feel a bit offended when somebody says that they suck in their mother tongue

  • Probotector

    “On the evening of the 18th, after preliminary hearings, Sun X was lawfully arrested…”

    As opposed to unlawfully?

    • Cauffiel

      Chinese grossly over use adjectives.

  • Probotector

    I had a strange epiphany the other day when I realised there isn’t really any ageism in China. You see kids acting out or being obnoxious, and the response is “they’re just kids”. You see old people rifling through the garbage to find discarded bottles to sell for 1 jiao after hawking up a loogie, and the response is “that’s old people” et cetera et cetera ad nauseum, so the concept of blaming this on “post-90s generation rich” seems a little out of place. When you think about it, the arrogance of the rich Chinese (or anyone who is arrogant because of their wealth really) is not limited to only the up and coming rich kids. Perhaps it’s a bandwagon kind of thing, in the wake of the whole Li Tianyi (or whatever his name is) debacle. The article and the comments are so emphatic that it’s because he’s “post-90s generation rich” that he did this, (as if not so rich Chinese kids/teens are any less spoiled and ignorant), not because, you know, he’s just another person here who thinks he can do whatever he wants with impunity.

  • Boris_Da_Bengal_Tiger

    He should be runned over with his own car. That’ll teach him!

  • Teacher in China

    Ugh. These stories make me feel sick. I honestly feel like I’m endangering my life just being anywhere close to the street sometimes.

    We just had a horrible accident up here in Songyuan. A Porsche Jeep filled with 8 Grade 10 students celebrating someone’s birthday crashed and they all died. Apparently, the driver stole the keys from dad and was unlicensed. Apparently there was also alcohol involved. Parents are angry that the evening self-study teacher let them out of self-study classes to go celebrate.

    • ESL Ninja

      Obviously the teachers fault, hang him.

    • Zappa Frank

      i think they should death sentenced that teacher… are we crazy? it’s obviously his fault!….Else would mean that parents are responsible of sons’ bad behavior.. that is a nonse.

    • Teacher in China

      Yeah, there’s more than enough blame to go around, trying to shift it all onto the teacher is irresponsible.

    • Cauffiel

      Thats awful. That shit happens in the U.S. too.

      • Dr Sun

        really, if you listen to what most say on here, this shit never happens in America, ever, period. It only happens in China.

    • Dr Sun

      then whatever you do don’t move to Europe or the USA, motor traffic accidents involving alcohol are among the leading causes of traumatic death (excluding gun shot related death in the USA)

  • YourSupremeCommander

    If the kids father is well connected and wiling to spend some dough, guess what will happen?

    Exactly.

  • SonofSpermcube

    The Porsche Cayenne is the preferred conveyance of assholes who shouldn’t be driving.

  • Cauffiel

    That’s not true, the death penalty is not universally sought, regardless of a perpetrator’s eligibility.

  • Cauffiel

    In Guangdong all the restaurants have quality/safety ratings displayed at the entrance of the restaurant. Most, shockingly, have the lowest of three passing ratings.

    • loki

      haha that is just funny as shit you should consider being in comedy….. “have quality/safety ratings ” HAHAHAH,,,, omg!!! hahahaha…. “displayed at the entrance of the restaurant” BAHHAHAHAHAHHAH!!!!!!!

    • Paul Schoe

      Same in Xiamen. However, I expect that in most countries most places will have the lowest rating. The lowest rating usually stands for ‘checked and passed‘.

      In order to get a higher rating, you need, for example, have separated cooking and (dish-)washing facilties, or work according to standard, written-down, procedures. Both items that the fast majority of small mum-and-pop’ shops won’t have (in any country)

      • Cauffiel

        “checked and passed” = “well, ya MIGHT get diarrhea, but not DEFINITELY. but maybe……… probably.” :-D

    • Dax

      Supposedly, in Hubei those inspections only occur once, when the restaurant opens. If you want it done again you have to pay for it. So, at least you know your restaurant was minimally safe at some point in the past.

  • David

    It was not a straw man argument at all. It was a direct question about a comment he made. I was questioning his statement “I would suggest more Chinasmack readers try driving in China for a week before commenting on any more road related stories.” My question to him was simple. Why? I never suggested he was making an excuse for anybody In fact I know he was not making an excuse for the driver. Most of my comment was simple exposition on why the average foreigner has experience already. You really misunderstood what I said, which is not hard to do on-line.

  • tomoe723

    yeah an oppressive police keeps the peace through fear. But I don’t think that’s the case in China, is it?

    Edit:
    I apologize I think I may have misunderstood some in-between the lines responses here. I’m more into the ethics or psychology of stuff, I’m so bad at grasping the political side of things.

  • David

    I guess you can not expect much sympathy from a guy who calls himself Robespierre. Off with his fucking head.

  • DavidisDawei

    “Revenge is a dish Best served Cold”

    • Dr Sun

      karma

      • DavidisDawei

        I was half joking when I typed the comment, but I would wait to see how things played out before taking any actions I would regret.

        Karma?

        I am an Imperfect person Dr Sun…so I could be wrong, but
        I do not believe the universe is the great equalizer (beyond the fact we all die)

        You mentioned Ted Kennedy…very good example…
        that arse lived a long and “happy” life after killing Mary Jo Kopechne.

        Karma or whatever you want to call it is linked to actions AND since we are all human and capable of mistakes, it is also tied to Acts of Contrition and Penitience.
        This doesn’t mean a price won’t be paid for your error, but perhaps it helps to clean the slate so you can move forward in good conscience.

  • David

    OK, the car was at a stand still and then hit the guy. How does a Porsche Cayenne kill a guy, even if the jerk floored it? It is not a big car. I guess next time he will buy the Carrera, then the man will just break a leg and roll off the hood.

    • Dr Sun

      its nearly 1/2 a ton in weight, not big ?
      A human femur, pelvis will fracture in a collision of only 5 mph by a solid moving object, the resulting blood lose, femur 1500 ml, pelvis 2000 ml, thats death.

      • David

        Obviously my comment was only half serious, people can die from being hit in the head with a golf ball, so being hit by a car is always a risk. Now, that being said I don’t know if you have seen this car, it is big for a Porsche but only compact-medium as far as most cars go. Of course if it had been moving I would understand but it was going from a stand still. While it is very true that when the femoral artery is severed you will get massive blood loss and death in minutes but but most broken femurs do no result in a severing of the femoral artery. I probably only saw 25-30 broken femurs in the short time I was an EMT in college but none of them severed the artery. If that is what happened it would have to be some bad luck. Of course the article does not really say how the man died, he may have simply been knocked over, hit his head on the sidewalk and died, or gotten an internal injury and died of shock This was why the comment was mostly supposed to be making fun of the car, not the man who died.

        • Kai

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porsche_Cayenne

          It’s an SUV. There are bigger SUVs but it’s not exactly small, and I think starts with nearly 300 horsepower.

          • hess

            I was gonna say the same thing, not a small car by any standards

          • David

            Yes, I know it is an SUV (I have a friend in the states that owns one) but it is probably the smallest SUV I have ever seen or ridden in, your average Buick 4 door is bigger and heavier. Again, it was not meant literally; being hit or run over by any vehicle is dangerous and in this case it was fatal for the poor man.

          • Zappa Frank

            maybe you americans are used to truck-size cars.. in europe is a big suv..
            ok ok i know it’s not your point, just to talk

        • MidniteOwl

          Obviously it’s a retarded comment. wasting space on the internet.

          • David

            LMAO why is the internet running out of space now? Of all the comments here, you think making fun of a small car is retarded? I think you need to go look up the word ‘obviously’ again. I do not think it means what you think it means. If my comment is a waste of space, than your comment about my comment is even more of one.

  • Kate

    what’s “chengguan”?

  • don mario

    anyone surprised by this needs a slap.

    the chinese people who commented saying this person needs to be shot need a reality check. 99% of chinese drivers are dangerous fools. this kind of thing is inevitable, and much more of it will happen before things improve.. not to mention the corruption that lets rich get away with murder.. who would wanna live in china.

  • Probotector

    Shit, seriously? That’s a horrible story! If a kid did that to my wife all bets are off…

    What happened in the end? Was she and your baby okay?

  • Zappa Frank

    i didn’t mean food street vendor, that are like you said licensed. I mean other kind of vendors, in europe we have many people (usually africans immigrants but not just them) that sell at every corner some stuff, lighters, tissues, socks, mobilephone covers, necklaces and so on…. they are everywhere like in china and as in china they are tollerated, sometime there is a crackdown on them but within no time everything back as before..

  • Paul Schoe

    What a terrific example. i won’t forget this one. Thanks for the link.

  • Surfeit

    I can see what you are saying, and you certainly have me thinking a little more about my comment. I posted in emotion, and without thought. Perhaps he wasn’t being quite so literal. Your analogy certainly makes more sense.

    However, while I’d anticipate to be shot by someone holding a gun to me, I would never anticipate being run over by someone in a car. So, personally, I’ll stand by what I said, but revoke the bastard status.

  • bert

    “Public security organs” that’s something I wanna see!

    “Traditional Chinese Medicine Hospital” and that would be their second mistake.

  • Dr Sun

    I didn’t say it does, only western pharmaceutical companies are trying to patent that and call in their science

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