Family Killed By SUV in Multiple Hit and Run, Driver Missing


From NetEase:

Driver Hits Someone, Flees Only to Hit and Kill Another Family of Three

“First he hit an over 60-year-old man from Nanmu village, and instead of stopping, he sped up and drove away, only to hit this family of three, an elderly couple and their one-year-old granddaughter, killing all of them.” At a little past 4pm on November 9th, a tragic car accident occurred on the Guanghan city Sanxingdui highway heading into the city. As a [Volkswagen] Tiguan SUV with license plate “川F9E107″ fled in a hit and run, it ran into the Huo family of three, unfortunately killing all three. Huo family relatives told this reporter in grief, “It seems like he was driving with abandon. Between his car hitting someone, hitting another, and then again hitting the roadside railing, he didn’t slow down at all, and there isn’t any evidence of braking on the road to be seen.”

After hitting people the second time, the vehicle directly hit the railing by the side of the road, with the railing piercing through the body of the car, the front of the car completely damaged, beyond recognition, while the left front and rear wheels as well as the car’s underbody were stained with blood.

When relatives of the deceased arrived at the scene after learning of the accident, the driver was nowhere to be seen.


“Truly tragic, all three of them hit and dismembered, the little baby only has her upper body still intact, and Old Huo’s head is gone…” Upon hearing the accident, Nanmu villagers very quickly arrived, and upon getting the report, Guanghan traffic police also quickly hurried to the scene.

Very quickly, police sealed off the area with a police line, but the crowd of onlookers also grew.

As confirmed on scene, this car accident caused at least three deaths.


“There’s still one that hasn’t yet been found, the Huo’s younger brother.” According to bystanders, relative have tried calling him but have yet to get through, nor has his person been found. “So it isn’t yet known whether or not something happened to him in the accident as well.”

At present, the cause of the accident is still under investigation. As of 6:30 when this was submitted, Guanghan traffic police also have not confirmed if the driver has been found, and there has not been a final number on the number of dead caused by the accident.

This paper will continue following this story.


Comments from NetEase:

网易北京市朝阳区手机网友 ip:221.219.*.*

Death penalty.

曹九日 [网易北京市手机网友]:

Fuck, a conscienceless driver.

网易江苏省无锡市手机网友 ip:114.225.*.* 2014-11-09 19:25:54 发表

Punish severely.

网易山东省青岛市手机网友 ip:182.40.*.*

Cold-blooded beast!

庆丰包子狗不理 [网易广西贵港市手机网友]:

Why aren’t people like this hit and killed?

网易广西手机网友 ip:171.106.*.*

Scum driver.

非法内容不能显示 [网易广东省广州市手机网友]:

Completely devoid of conscience.

网易山东省淄博市手机网友 ip:60.215.*.*

Fuck, fucking human scum.

网易陕西省西安市手机网友 ip:1.85.*.*

What a tragedy.

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  • Amused

    I bet they wish they had a police force instead of those nice guys at the psb now, huh? They’ve got a full plate and make/model and they aren’t sitting at homeboy’s house waiting for him and a picture of him isn’t all over the tv? Now that’s quality in law enforcement there.

    • mr.wiener

      He’d better hope the police catch him rather than the relatives of the dead family.

      • Amused

        What, they’ll take all his money before the “trial”? For better or worse, physical revenge just doesn’t seem to have the appeal to Chinese people that I’m used to.

        • mr.wiener

          That depends..If he is found later, they’ll probably sue his arse for all the money they can get. If they found him right after this incident it wouldn’t surprise me if if they beat him to death.

          • Amused

            If they did, honestly I’d probably be proud of them. Even tho, yeah, I know everyone deserves their day in court, it would be a nice sign of some righteous human aggression. Stories like the one where the kid got genital warts from his teacher and the father didn’t execute him just crush my soul.

    • Dr Sun

      Its a “black car”, the dealership “forgot” to record the buyers name or ID correctly ( which is associated with the Chassis/ engine #), the plates fake, and the driver who is second generation will never be found by the police who have been told to forget about it.

      • Amused

        Still a policing failure.

      • David

        is this an educated guess (not doubting you and would not be surprised) or did you see some of this in another source? I guess taking finger prints haven’t reached China yet.

        • Dr Sun

          neither its a reality, its even a Taobao reality, there are hundreds of dealers selling luxury cars with “plates”.

          who exactly is going to fingerprint the 1.3 + billion people people, the PSB, lol

  • AbC

    And that’s why little fuckers (like the post yesterday) who are reckless on the road should be jailed… before instances like this happen.
    No sympathy for complete morons on the road who doesn’t give a crap about the wellbeing of anyone else.

    • terroir

      “No sympathy for complete morons on the road who doesn’t give a crap about the wellbeing of anyone else.”

      Who aren’t you talking about on china’s roads? That’s a lot a hate to be carrying around

      • AbC

        Although I personally would not ever drive on a road in China with the chaotic driving habits of ML drivers, they seem to have a system which they understand. Even amongst all the chaos of the Chinese traffic, there are people such as the driver in this article and many other similar articles that people in China identify as especially reckless and dangerous (more so than your average one anyhow).

        • don mario

          dunno about that. i’ve seen plenty of accidents. i’ve seen a woman get knocked off her bike by a car going at crawling pace. luckily i haven’t seen anyone get their face smashed into pieces but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen with high frequency.

          • David

            Saw that the first week I was here. Also, several times since. Mostly I think there are less deaths because despite the terrible way in which most Chinese drive they do not generally speed (at least in Wuxi) so I am guess most accidents are not fatal. despite being here two years I still have never seen a cop pull anybody over for bad driving (oh, like driving up on the sidewalk with their car to get around traffic or driving on the wrong side of a divided street). I am with ABC, I have 35 years of experience driving and have no desire to drive a car in China.

        • terroir

          ” they seem to have a system which they understand”

          Let’s just call the laws in China–something that should rightfully be “black and white” to comprehend and comply with–by it’s rightful name: “50 (million) Shades of Grey”.

          Faithful to the source, it’s not consensual, but the sadism and depravity remain.

  • miakotamatsue

    That guard rail appears to be poorly designed. Proper design will have the guard rail collapsed and be crushed to absorb the impact of the crash…not go through the car like that and possibly kill the passengers inside.

    • Guest

      its a miracle they werent made of bamboo

      • Surfeit

        You just won.

  • JayJay

    Certified drunk driver.

  • Stefan

    Cars should be banned.

  • Your Sexy Cousin Rex

    Why do people walk on the highway

    • Irvin

      They are obsessed with speeding cars.

    • 白色纯棉小裤裤

      It is a “国道”, not a “高速公路”.
      although the literal translation of “国道” is “national highway”, 国道 is different than highway in western countries. Most of 国道 allow pedestrians.

      “Highways” in China, more often than not, refer to China National Highways. The fully controlled-access, multi-lane, divided routes are instead called expressways. As of 2013,
      there were 5.98 million km of highways and 104,000 km of expressways in China; both total lengths are the longest in the world.

      • Probotector

        “there were 5.98 million km of highways and 104,000 km of expressways in China; both total lengths are the longest in the world.”

        You’ve just gotta add that masturbation to China’s “greatness” haven’t you.

        • 白色纯棉小裤裤

          That’s cited from wikipedia. If you have any problems please complain in the talk page

          • RickyBeijing

            He wanted to look it up on wikipedia, but he was too busy trying to find the truth about Tibet and the Dalia Lama, information about which he couldn’t find because those pages are blocked…

            I wonder how many other pages the CCP controls/changes/creates for propaganda for the enjoyment of people like you to boast about?

            Perhaps we should look at the ‘km of road:per person’ ratio?

            The inferiority complex is strong in this one….

          • 白色纯棉小裤裤

            I cited the paragraph from wiki simply to support my argument that “Highway” in China is different than your regular highway and pedestrians are allowed on such highways. I don’t know why you think I was broasting about anything. Neither the total lengh of road nor the road per person ratio is something worth boasting about.
            Your inferiority complex is so strong that whatever I say you always think I am trying to show that China is superior.

      • IsurvivedChina

        Way to go with the “how great are we”!

      • donscarletti

        I’ve driven on “Guo Dao” in Henan before, 18 wheel trucks carrying fuel doing 140km/h in the right lane and 3 wheelers doing 30km/h in the left. Drivers simply do not give a fuck about anything, nobody looks behind them before merging nomatter how slow they are going, if you try to overtake a scooter doing 40 and he wants to overtake a scooter doing 30, then he’ll just merge and you’ll probably be pushed into the on-coming lane or the verge.

        Least pleasant highway driving experience in my life.

        When I go to cities in provinces nearby Beijing, like Shandong and Henan, I always think, “just 800km, screw the train”, then I just remember what it is like to drive in these provinces, then I don’t.

        • 白色纯棉小裤裤

          My point is pedestrians have the right to walk on the road in this story, therefore the driver is at full fault.

      • Teacher in China

        Regardless of whether or not it’s allowed, it’s still very dangerous. The way people drive on highways is really reckless, and you’re taking your life into your own hands by walking on them. Not that I am blaming the victims here – the driver was clearly an a-hole; but i personally would never do it and I agree with Rex’s sentiment of not understanding why anyone would do it.

  • Lei Feng’s Hat

    *Spoken in a Nick Cage rage-voice* Do, do you know what China is?! Well, I’ll goddamn tell you what China is! *End Nick Cage rage-voice*

    China is a kind of ‘Negative Lottery’. And we’re all in it; we’re all holding tickets (they’re free upon birth/arrival), and all tickets are winning tickets.

    Now, unlike a normal lottery where the lucky winning ticket holder might receive big money, a motor home, or top of the line seat covers…China’s Negative Lottery system has only one payout: to, somehow, fuck up your life.

    And, finding yourself on the wrong road/street/hi way…with one of these gut-wrenchingly thoughtless, selfish, pot-bellied, purse-carrying, sidewalk-spitting, chain-smoking sub-humans is your number one way to win ‘the big prize’.

    Did that make any sense?

    *Reaches for a tumbler of smooth 12 year old scotch, reflectively

    • Surfeit

      Chain wording level: Pro.

    • Probotector

      Yes it made sense, except the purse carrying. Do middle-aged Chinese fucktards do that for their wives, I thought there were too selfish. In any case, the trick then, to avoid disaster, is to be constantly vigilant.

      • Lei Feng’s Hat

        You’re right. However, I should have added yet one more hyphenated word to my long list…because I was thinking of the rectangular man-purses that all those middle aged men clutch under their arm as they stroll about town.

        And yes, China is one giant Jedi training academy…one’s Force must always be activated…

        • Alex Dương

          These aren’t the purses you’re looking for.

    • David

      I hope it is Talisker. I prefer the 18 year bit the 12 year is also excellent.

    • Wes in China

      What a summary this is. I totally agree and have come across a load of these morons

  • Surfeit

    I bet he’s in Ikea.

  • Rick in China

    I’m almost certain that recently, a law was passed that absolves drivers of any responsibility when hitting people when they are on highways — if that is the case, I suppose this guy would not receive any sort of penalty for his actions. The law makes some sense as a deterrent for all the people who run across highways causing extreme danger to a lot of people on the road – as well as themselves, obviously, but in cases like this it just seems tragic no matter how it’s sliced.

    • DavidisDawei

      The conditions on the road don’t look very good either. Hazy, Wet roads, late in the day (early sunset).
      It is an awful tragedy, but leaving the scene makes it a lot worse (IMO).
      You and I would be sent away forever, but people like Teddy Kennedy can leave the scene after killing someone – in fact poor Teddy had a good night’s sleep before contacting the authorities – and he didn’t suffer at all – he ended up being a “high ranking” politician for (Too) Many years who also ran for President of the USA. It is nice to have long coattails to ride on.

      • Rick in China

        Come on – apples and oranges. This incident and Teddy Kennedy’s incident are completely different – as well as in entirely different ages of communication.

        I could make a long list, but I think you can figure out most of the common differences: the fact he didn’t hit someone on the road but rather a car accident landed the car in a river or whatever and the victim was the passenger, the fact there were no cell phones – let alone readily available landlines, the fact that he (apparently) tried to dive down and rescue his passenger before eventually giving up unable to find anything, etc. Very different than driving over an old man and speeding to get away – right into another family……not even remotely relatable. Teddy Kennedy did a lot of great things as a senator, so I find it a little reprehensible to put these two type of completely different incidents on par and bring him down to this obvious scumbags level of person…

        • Dr Sun

          ” Teddy Kennedy did a lot of great things”
          you mean like supporting and fundraising for the IRA terrorists pre-9/11 ?

          • Rick in China

            I mean like trolling more.

          • Dr Sun

            I never knew Teddy Kennedy was famous for his trolling as well as for his support of terrorists, thanks for the update.

          • DavidisDawei

            Good Riddance Teddy Kennedy. Too bad he wasn’t still born!

            But George Carlin said it best…

          • Dr Sun

            RIP George, spot on guy

          • jaded

            There’s no proof Teddy Kennedy supported the active service unit of the IRA. He was however a Sinn Fein supporter and could be viewed as an Irish Republican (sympathiser).

            He was also instrumental in the peace process

            Get your facts straight before making such blanket statements labelling all parties as “terrorists”

          • Dr Sun

            Ted Kennedy run fun raising for the IRA, supported them in speeches, The IRA were and are Terrorists that murdered, extorted, and terrorized. Get your FACTS right boy

          • jaded

            The FACTS is what im talking about. The fact is that there was no evidence to suggest he facilitated the Active Service Unit of the IRA.

            He was a republican sympathiser which is not necessarily the same thing. You’re just another media-fed lemming, swallowing and regurgitaing british propaganda.

            The sort that demonises the ideology of the Irish cause and legitimises 100’S of years of British occupation and deflects any atrocities, of which there were a few, despite what you’re led to believe-boy!

          • Dr Sun

            I never said he put cammo on and laid land mines or personally killed hundreds of Irish people in a pub or at a bus stop did I ? He never had the guts to be a combatant himself, but he was as bad if not worse.He raised the money to buy the bombs to hire the EX- USMC mercenaries that taught them the art of IED.
            now before you respond with more Irish American romantic nonsense about the “cause” I did 2 tours in NI, how many did you do ?

          • Luke the Duke

            Putting a land mine in a civilian pub doesn’t require any guts whatsoever.

          • Dr Sun

            really, your talking from experience then, I take it the bomb you were carrying didn’t go off ?

          • Luke the Duke

            The closest thing to a universal definition of ‘terrorism’ that we have: ‘Criminal acts intended or calculated to provoke a state of terror in the general public, a group of persons or particular persons for political purposes’

            The PLA, Red Army and ISIS do not count as terrorists. To claim so is nothing more than hyperbole.

          • Dr Sun

            OK then to use your definition we can only say that the UN,the World Bank, the G8,the Catholic church,the white house,10 Downing st,the CPC,the CIA, MI5/6,Mossad, the City of London, Wall street,CNN,Fox news and China Smack. etc…etc…

          • Luke the Duke

            Don’t put words in my mouth. I never said that the IRA are not terrorists, because I believe that they are.

            When, exactly, have Wall Street, the World Bank etc. engaged in ‘criminal acts intended or calculated to provoke a state of terror in the general public, a group of persons or particular persons for political purposes’? You are being fatuous and if you thought more carefully about the words I wrote and the words you are writing then you would realise that.

          • Dr Sun

            So you now concede that the IRA are terrorists, but still sticking with your assumption that ISIS,the PLA and the Red Army faction where/are not terrorists , interesting and naive ???

            As for your second point I would suggest that the actions of Global financial institutions, ie Morgan Stanley, HSBC, Goldman Sachs, etc.. etc
            Who deliberately introduced sub prime/toxic loans into the markets and brought about through their criminal activities of insider trading, the worldwide financial collapse and the technocrat ascension, a few years ago are terrorists. Maybe even more dangerous than ISIS or the IRA.
            They wear suits, graduated from Oxbridge and the IVY league, but their Free Mason terrorism is what will most likely bring about “The End of Days” !
            However unlike ISIS, they use financial terrorism (Investments, shares & banking services) to execute their terrorism and they have “bought” most of the politicians you vote for.
            I suggest that once you have lived a little in the real world, you may one day be able to see and understand the real world

          • DavidisDawei

            They are financial terrorists, but have been deemed too big to fail/jail. I can only imagine what they are cooking up now that they know there are no consequences for their actions. Lie, cheat and steal – it is all allowed if you are big enough (and split the booty).

          • Dr Sun

            they are the biggest and most dangerous terrorists in the world, yet no govt sends their “special forces” to they’re penthouses to take them out in the darkness.

          • Luke the Duke

            The banks deliberately caused terror in the general public to further their political goals? Only if you believe in all that NWO conspiracy bullshit.

          • Dr Sun

            No idea what “NWO” is that like the Specter to you fantasy people ?

          • jaded

            Well actually i am irish, from the north born and bred squaddie. So don’t talk to me about boots on the ground. Knew you were a brit from your media fed rantings. Teddy Kennedy never had the guts to be a combatant himself? That’s a bit of a stretch isn’t it? You’re certain of it how? Total rubbish!

            Nice attempt at a strawman, but I said there was no evidence to suggest teddy kennedy FACILATED ie raised funds for not PARTICIPATED in ie took part in any ASU activity. You should check the dictionary for the respective definition.

            Again its always the IRA who are to blame for it all ,never the loyalists or the British Army, who have also killed innocent people ( but it’s under the banner of the crown so its ok).

            Equating the IRA with ISIS is rubbish. They’re an extremist Muslim organisation who behead kidnapped Westerners. Does the former do the same?

            The hypocrisy of the Brits calling the IRA terrorists when they have been invading and illegally occupying ireland commiting various atrocities for over 800 years is nauseating.

            You’re really trying to say that wanting you lot out of Ireland for good isnt a valid standpoint and if so then thy must be a terrorist?

            Yes I am going to say they have more legitimacy. If you lot fucked off for good, then then they would have no further basis to operate.

            I don’t give a fuck about what tours of duty you’ve been on either. Doesn’t give you the omnipotent knowledge to make the claims you are making.

          • jaded

            Actually I am Irish, from the north born and bred, so don’t you talk to me about ‘boots on the ground’. Knew you were a brit from your media fed rantings.

            Nice attempt at a strawman, but I said that there was no evidence to prove that teddy kennedy FACILATED the ASU of the IRA ie raised funds not PARTICIPATED ie took part in. I suggest you consult the dictionary for the respective definitions.

            Teddy Kennedy didn’t have ‘the guts to be a combatant himself’? What sort of rubbish is that? What are you basing that on?

            Of course it’s always the IRA and never the loyalists or the British army who also committed atrocities, but because it was done under the banner of the crown it’s ok.

            You aliken the IRA to the ISIS a radical, extremist Muslim group who kidnapp and behead westerners and then broadcast it? A group with a religious fundamentalist crux compared to the cause which is geo policital?

            Are you really saying that the cause isn’t a valid standpoint and inherently wrong?That wanting you lot out of Ireland for good makes someone a terrorist?

            The hypocrisy of the british labelling nationalists/republicans as terrorists is nauseating. That wanting a nation that has invaded and illegally occupied ireland for 800 plus years out of their own country is inherently wrong?

            I dont care how many tours of duty you’ve done. It doesn’t give you the omnipotent knowledge to make those kind of claims.

          • donscarletti

            The IRA *just* wants the British government and the loyalists out of Northern Ireland and unite Ireland after 800 years of English / British rule.

            ISIS *just* wants the Alawites out of Syria and the Shi’ites out of Iraq and re-unite the caliphate after 800 years of division.

          • Dr Sun


          • Dr Sun

            Don’t give me your geopolitical crap, it was never that. The IRA terrorized and killed thousands, held a entire region to ransom for decades. They were fundamentalist GANGSTERS, who run prostitution, drug smuggling, protection rackets to fund their cause (not unlike ISIS).
            100% of the protestant NI population never did and does not support them and 99% of catholic NI never did, they are Irish and that’s a fact !.
            I take it by “you lot” you are referring to the Irish Catholics and protestants that do not support your “cause”?
            You are sadly very naive, just like the supporters of ISIS are in believing that a extreme group of murdering,nutters/gangsters represent the real people wishes.
            BTW there is no “cause” as the people of NI did not and do not want to be yours.

            my comment-Teddy Kennedy didn’t have ‘the guts to be a combatant himself’?

            your response-“What sort of rubbish is that? What are you basing that on”

            my answer-Teddy Kennedy never picked up a gun and fought in a war himself, too much of a coward, but he did spend a awful amount of time, money and energy funding a lot of them.

          • jaded

            There you go again, making outlandish claims and professing to have omnipotent knowlege that can peer into the souls of people and the masses.

            the IRA were involved in prostitution you know this how? If you know ireland at all you know there’s vitually no prostitution in Ireland save for the capital and even then its few and far between.

            You must have got that from some scandal rag like the Sun. proves my point that you’re media fed. Well done for being a good little soldier and doing /believing what your told.

            99% of catholics don’t support the IRA? Where are you getting these figures from?Oh sorry its your omnipotent powers again. I think I know my own people better than you squaddie.

            More ranting and ludriculous stats bandied around by you.

            I dont deny that some of them were involved in some kind of racket. However you again fail to address wrongs commited by loyalists and british army e.g bloody Sunday and paratrooper Lee Clegg.

            Most ‘catholics’ if you want to brand us as such, are nationalists and want the withdrawal of the British ( you lot) from Ireland for good. Yes they don’t suppport extreme methods but they do in fact support the cause and again you make blanket statements of such.

            Again you denounce teddy kennedy for being a ‘coward’. He was a member of a prominent Irish American family, and to suggest he could possibly take up arms himself like that is ridiculous.

            He was a republican sympathiser which doesn’t automatically mean IRA supporter. He did a lot of good in his career. However again you just like to ‘tar people with the same brush’.

          • Dr Sun

            you finished with your nonsense ?

            good, now go check the court records and you can find for yourself the mass of prostitution/ gun running/ extortion /drug trafficking convictions against your “heros”

            for your education


            Here are your heros in action


          • jaded

            Why are you sending me a link about research about prostitution in Belfast? As I mentioned there is virtually no prostitution in Ireland save for the capital for example Dublin or Belfast. I’m not saying it’s non existent, but its nowhere near on the same scale as the UK. It’s obviously a very underground scene. And it still doesn’t prove that the IRA are responsible. It’s just another manifestation of your media fed mindset.

            The 2 British soldiers should not have been near that funeral when tensions were high after the Michael Stone incident. Which incidently, due to your blinkers, you fail to mention. If you’re such a champion of justice and balance of the law, why don’t you mention Bloody Sunday, paratrooper Lee Clegg, and the various atrocities committed by the Black and Tans in the 1920s?

            Yes ‘Reign of terror’ A good headline which makes for good TV. Yes the dramatic background music, in the background just to create the right effect. I accused you of being media fed, and you send me links of… highly biased and unobjective British Media! Ha! I rest my case. Feel like I’m repeating myself so this is the last time I’m gonna say it, Whether it sinks into your thick head or not:

            I don’t deny that some of them were involved in some kind of racket or another to raise funds. However the British media is heavily biased in its reporting/propaganda. However Who is really the Terrorists here? The foreign occupying forces of the Imperialist dogs, to which you avidly follow, or the native Irish who want the former out of their own country? You really think the Brits have a God given right to rule Ireland?

            Finally (and I mean finally) you sling mud at Teddy Kennedy with no foundation. Just because a high profile, highly respected powerful man from the US supported the rightful withdrawal of the Brits from Ireland. Something that rocked the establishment and threatened the pseudo/ false legitimacy of British rule in Ireland. Of course he must be denounced as a terrorist!

          • Dr Sun

            the Protestants, the unionists are “native Irish” you moron.And they certainly do not not support your catholic/nationalist “cause”.
            No Teddy Kennedy supported and fund-raised for a terrorist organisation in the Killing and wounding of thousands Irish, because it got him votes from ” catholic Irish Americans” who have never even lived in or been to Ireland, ever, period.
            So now you don’t deny that “some IRA commanders and active service units” were involved in racketeering, how you’re skimming now is embarrassing.
            BTW NI is apart of the UK , so there was no imperialist British army there, the only foreign army there were those from the Irish republic, the IRA.
            Done with you, you have no argument, just republican Rhetoric.

            Move on..move on.

          • jaded

            I’ve no argument strawman? I’ve put forward at least 3 valid points which you cant/wont address. Instead you continue to strawman.

            Just for your education worzel gummidge, the unionist population don’t see themselves as native Irish, as they arw decended from the planters, English and scottish settlers sent over to colonise Ireland. If they did recognise themselves as Irish then there wouldn’t be so much trouble in the first place.

            Yes NI is part of the UK but not by right or invitation. And even objectively speaking, the army of one country invading and occupying another is imperialism.

            Furthermore, people who originate from countries other than that of current residence are ‘foreigners’ you know that.

            The island of Ireland is one country however NI is a province still under British rule. Therefore,how the south be a foriegn entity you bollox? Also, the IRA has members from all over Ireland. Are you really that deluded?

            Yeah done with you as well. The fact you’re almost begging me to move on demonstrates you have no counter argument. On that basis, I have made my point.

            Keep following the lemming in front of you off the cliff.

          • Dr Sun

            you are such a fucking stupid strawman , so now your saying every immigrant (to any country) and their children, grandchildren, great-great children born in that country are still foreigners.
            You have no valid arguments what so ever, just your rhetoric and prejudiced deluded mind.
            You are a moron , a idiot and a troll, not worth me wasting my time upon.

            BTW straw-man you accidentally forgot to post the links to the studies and news stories about how your IRA did anything for the people of NI except extort them, blow them up and terrorize them.

          • jaded

            You mean I’ve no arguments that you want to countenance worzel. You’re the epitome of a strawman. Take a statement and twist it into something else.

            How can people born and raised in a country be foreigners you clown? I said people who originate from countries other than that of current residence. meaning born and raised in a different country, not by ethnicity or ancestral background!

            You’re either a strawman or your reading comprehension leaves a lot to be desired.

            Of course anyone who out argues you or attacks your baseless rantings must be a moron and a troll etc. Then you childishly spit your dummy out with no no you’re a strawman! Fuckin primary school stuff.

            If I have no argument and not worth your time then why do you continue to spout such rubbish and strawman?

            Why would I post the links that anyone who’s even peered at a TV has seen before?

            Why don’t you post the links of loyalist-security force collusion which is lesser known and portrayed in the media? Such as:

            If anyones deluded it’s you. You actually think that your rantings are seen as the gospel truth? You should move on, you’re not representing yourself well.

          • Dr Sun

            So you’ve never heard of “nationalization” you clown, so by your argument everyone living in lets say America who has nationalized, is still a foreigner, despite having U.S citizenship ? every one who has gained UK citizenship, is still a foreigner ? or does this just apply to protestants who’s families have lived in NI for centuries ?
            They are Irish , they are Northern Irish and that’s what they want to be and call themselves.
            Now I realise you don’t like that, so you tried to murder, them, bomb them and terrorize them into submission, guess what sucker it failed !!.
            It failed because you underestimated the peoples resolve to remain NI and apart of the UK, just like England, Scotland and Wales are.
            Btw you still failed to post anything good the IRA has ever done .
            I have asked you three times to post links to the “good” the IRA have done, but you failed to be able to.Three strikes and your out !!
            Your delusion is so very sad, I hope one day you pick up a book start reading and educate yourself. your infantile rhetoric,diversion and inability to actually put forward any sort of rational or logical argument so far has not impressed anyone or brought anyone here to support your “cause”

          • jaded

            Yes of course ive heard of naturalisation, and in the context of the US its a valid point.

            The point I’m making however, is that in the context of the troops and state apparatus of one country, occupying another is a foreign entity, and imperialist. That’s a fact not rhetoric.

            Furthermore, We’re separated by water unlike Scotland and Wales. Therefore Britain is a foreign entity.

            The unionists and loyalists don’t regard themselves as Irish. They see themselves as a separate entity from the rest of Ireland. Also, ‘Northern Irish’ isn’t an official identity. Yes not everything is black and white, and yes people have the right of personal choice to identify as such.

            However , when you draw the line in the sand between British or Irish, they are firmly on the British side.

            I would like to regard them as Irish and for them to regard themselves as Irish, but they choose not to. Instead they conduct activities which are un-Irish, such as marching, blocking up roads, and waving Union jacks around.

            Now, as aforementioned way back when, you tar everyone with the same brush. For example:

            ‘You don’t like that so you try to bomb them, murder them and terrorise them’

            ‘You and your leaders Mc Guinness and Adams’

            Now you’re implying that I’m somehow co-responsible for the casualties during that period. What’s wrong with your head? Oh that’s right, it’s your media fed mindset!

            Yes of course anyone who wants a United Ireland is a terrorist/supports terrorism! Including Teddy Kennedy.

            You’re giving me 3 strikes? You’ve had about 10! You’ve failed to address the loyalist killings e.g Michael Stone, loyalist-security force collusion, bloody sunday, para trooper Lee Clegg, the black and tans etc. Either that or you were ignorant of those facts.

            Irish republicanism and IRA membership NOT the same thing. You want me to talk about what good have the IRA done? Do you mean the provisonal IRA or the original pre partition organisation? want me to pick up a book and start reading? Ok!

            Let’s turn to chapter one ‘The United Irishmen’ The nucleus of the IRA. founded by Wolf Tone (an anglican protestant and joined by Napper Tandy (a quaker).

            They formed the group to create a united Irish Republic and for catholic emancipation. Indeed the inital members were all protestant.

            Their ethos was ‘catholic, protestant and dissenter’. This was a noble cause led by noble men. A lot of influential people of the time usually protestants/anglo Irish joined and supported this. Previously stringent barriers were broken down in the spirit of brotherhood, and trying to break England’s stranglehold on Ireland. That was a good thing.

            As you were probably unaware, the divide existed way before 1969. Wolfe Tone is still regarded as a hero, someone who had the balls to fight the dictatorial and tyrannical establishment. and stand up and be counted.That was a good thing.

            Let’s jump now to the IRA of the 1910s-1920s. Home rule- a reasonable compromise was foiled by the house of lords and suspended with the outbreak of world war 1.

            The IRA subseqently formed from the remnants of the Irish volunteers, fought a calculated and successful guerilla war that could not be quelled by the British. The British were forced to offer a truce.

            The British had ‘underestimated the resolve’ of the Irish for self determination, despite murdering civillians at a gaelic football match, despite the black and tans, state sponsored ex army thugs sent over to deal with the rebellion killing innocent civillians, and despite martial law, and internment. That was a good thing.

            However the unionist dominated Ulster parliament opted out of the Irish Free state. No public vote or referendum, ever took place. Furthermore, Catholics at that time were 2nd class citizens, and were killed and burnt out of their homes in Belfast soon after the partition. Is that not terrorism?

            Lets fast forward to post 1969. Which incidentally, was fueled by police brutality during the civil rights movement.

            The latter day provisional IRA’s campaign was not so effective as the 1920’s war of independence, and became tit for tat, with both sides returning the serve.

            I do not support the targeting of civillians. The IRA made a catastrophic error in the Enniskillen bombing. The intention was to get the security forces present at the war memorial. However the timer on the device went off too soon.

            Nevertheless you cannot condone the uncondonable. It deeply wounded the republican movement and destroyed public support for the cause with worldwide condemnation. FYI, Mc Guiness and Adams also condemned it, and rightly so.

            And no, just for the record. I don’t see them as collateral damage.

            Now Sinn Fein-or rather northern Sinn Fein have entered the power sharing NI executive in cooperation. The provos have decommisoned their weapons. They are using the ballot box not the armalite. That is a good thing.

            I believe in the spirit of Wolfe Tone ‘Catholic, Protestant and Dissenter. That is true republicanism. That is the cause.

            The point i’ve been making all along is you tar everyone with the same brush as ‘terrorists’ Just because they want the rightful withdrawal of the British from Ireland for good.

            Ive put forward various, previously mentioned arguments. However you strawmanned, evaded and projected your media fed and typically ignorant views irrespective of any balance or objectivity.

            I sincerely hope the penny drops for you and you realise the occupation of Ireland is/was no different to the Japanese imperialist invasion of China.

  • Fdom

    Probably already on a plane out of China with a ticket paid for by his rich parents. This is so sad but if he has the right connections, he’ll get out of it.

  • Jahar

    He was proving a point to the guy in the US. Showing him how it’s done.

  • Xia

    Driver lesson in China is a joke, the resulting driver license equals a license for road killers.

    • Jahar

      well, you do learn a very valuable lesson about bribing people to do their job. how many cartons of cigarettes does a driving lesson cost nowadays anyway?

  • yurah

    It had to be a driver of a Volkswagen…

  • Sleepy

    Before everyone calls for the death penalty for this tragedy, all the facts should come to light. Chances are, he was a terrible, SB asshole but maybe, just maybe, he was a diabetic or epileptic and wandered off in a state of confusion.

    I really enjoy browsing chinasmack but i find out ironic that most of the comments are always so hateful.

    • don mario

      yea people really discriminate against the considerate chinese drivers, its pathetic!

    • Bluex

      That would make him more of an @–hole, endangering road users while he understood the risks related to his medical conditions.

    • IsurvivedChina

      I find your name ironic…

    • FYIADragoon

      Really shouldn’t have been on the road to begin with if he had either of those conditions. Punishment should be just as severe.

    • David

      Really? You read about at least three people dead, including a man beheaded and a baby torn in two and your first thought is “people on CS make such hateful comments”?

      • Sleepy

        It’s not just this one article. It’s every article from the most mundane, non-newsworthy headlines, to headlines as serious as this one.

        Some of the most closed-minded comments, I find in the English comments.

        A real Platerhaters Ball in here.

    • Teacher in China

      In case you didn’t notice, most of the Chinese translated comments were also negative, calling the guy “scum” and calling for the death penalty. The commenters here aren’t doing anything radically different.

      • Sleepy

        Totally missed that. I thought I was in the post about the refrigerator light. My bad.

  • Dr Sun

    there is its called Canada/ Australia/ USA, etc…etc.. depending on how many millions in stolen/ embezzled RMB his/her parents have.

  • Probotector

    How did the driver survive that wreckage… unless he bailed Die Hard-style before hitting the barrier?

  • Rick in China

    But sad – since the grandpa got a 100k rmb fine to the human trafficker’s mother and 8 years mandatory in prison…….

  • Molly

    disgusting, Han people really should be allowed only to drive bikes!

  • Gary

    There’s no picture of the other car but I’ll bet that the only reason “Old Hua” and family are dead is because not only were none of them wearing seat belts but also the grandchild was on grandma’s lap in the front seat. It’s really sad how many preventable highway deaths happen there.

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