Thousands of Dead Pigs Found Floating in Shanghai River

Chinese sanitation workers in Shanghai fish out thousands of dead pigs found floating in the Huangpu River by the city's Songjiang district.

From NetEase:

Over 3000 Dead Pigs Fished Out of Huangpu River, Officials Say Water Quality Normal

March 9th, a large number of dead pigs appeared floating on the Huangpu River surface in the Songjiang district of Shanghai. As of March 11th, already over 3000 pigs have been fished out. These dead hogs mainly come from areas upstream of Shanghai. Shanghai’s Water Department says the tap water quality “data is normal” in Songjiang district and in accordance with relevant standards.

[Above] March 10th, Shanghai Huangpu River, numerous pigs floating on the surface of the river.

Chinese sanitation workers in Shanghai fish out thousands of dead pigs found floating in the Huangpu River by the city's Songjiang district.

March 10th, Shanghai Huangpu River, sanitation workers fishing out the dead pigs.

Chinese sanitation workers in Shanghai fish out thousands of dead pigs found floating in the Huangpu River by the city's Songjiang district.

March 10th, Shanghai Huangpu River, sanitation workers dragging away the dead pigs on the shore.

Chinese sanitation workers in Shanghai fish out thousands of dead pigs found floating in the Huangpu River by the city's Songjiang district.

Chinese sanitation workers in Shanghai fish out thousands of dead pigs found floating in the Huangpu River by the city's Songjiang district.

Chinese sanitation workers in Shanghai fish out thousands of dead pigs found floating in the Huangpu River by the city's Songjiang district.

On Sina Weibo:

@头条新闻: Online chatter today: Over a thousand pigs unsatisfied with pollution collective jump into the Huangpu River. March 9th, a large number of dead pigs appeared floating on the Huangpu River surface in the Songjiang district of Shanghai. At present, already over 1200 swine have been fished out, including amongst them suckling pigs as well as adult pigs weighing over hundreds of kilograms. It has been tentatively determined that these dead pigs come upstream from the Zhejiang province area. Netizens joked about this, claiming these pigs had “angrily jumped into the river” because they were unhappy with pollution.

From Sohu:

Shanghai Huangpu River Floating Pigs Test Results: Porcine Circovirus Detected

China Exclusive Report: Results of Tests on the Pigs Floating on the Huangpu River: Porcine circovirus (PCV) detected, not yet major outbreak. The Shanghai Municipal Agriculture Commission announced on the 11th that the dead pigs that were floating in the Huangpu River have undergone sampling and testing, with one sample testing positive for porcine circovirus, and the other specimens all testing negative. Porcine circovirus disease is caused by porcine circovirus type 2, a disease that has broken out relatively frequently in recent years, and not considered a zoonosis disease [one that transmits between humans and animals].

Comments from NetEase:

空亦空 [网易广西南宁市网友]:

Celebrate, at least they weren’t manufactured into ham and sausages.

网易云南省昆明市网友:

This many dead pigs, why did they rot to this point before they were discovered…? Poor sanitation workers.

网易浙江省台州市网友:

Actually, it’s very simple. As long as the environmental protection bureau chief dares to drink [the water], then we’ll dare to drink [the water], as well as believe you guys.

zhoufenglk [网易上海市网友]:

This place does indeed have a lot of dead pigs. I often come to this place to hunt pheasants and see dead pigs all over the the riverside.

zdwyunjie [网易江苏省常州市网友]:

If it weren’t for the media exposing this, I bet they’d all still be soaking in the water and the masses would would be none the wiser about the water they’re drinking!! Government departments are always about belated action!! I’m also confused as to why housing prices are not only not falling but actually rising!

yhdtbl [网易北京市朝阳区网友]:

Shanghai people truly are blessed, even the water they drink is full of nourishment.
It must be great to be Shanghainese.

网易浙江省嘉兴市手机网友:

I’ll pay 10,000 RMB for the water quality technician to drink the Huangpu River water.

网易重庆市网友:

If he dares to drink it, then I’ll dare to go streaking naked, and guarantee full nudity [of breasts, crotch, and buttocks].

弄一弄 [网易山东省济南市网友]:

If these dead pigs aren’t sent to some unscrupulous processing factory, we can “burn incense” [and thank the heavens for our fortune]~~ ||| Sigh~ these days our hopes/expectations are all so low…

ttii77 [网易河北省石家庄市网友]:

“Whether you believe or not, either way I believe it.”

网易上海市浦东新区手机网友:

How come we don’t see an investigation being launched? Don’t tell me throwing away diseased dead pigs like this isn’t illegal enough?

网易辽宁省辽阳市网友:

Why were they thrown into the river? Was burying them not okay? Some people’s characters truly are lousy!

走错了地方 [网易上海市杨浦区网友]:

If that 3000 government officials died in that river, it’d be an occasion more festive than Spring Festival.

网易广东省广州市手机网友:

I remember reading a book about a young American guy who had pissed in the lake next to his campsite, and while listening to the radio on his return journey, heard that the entire town had stopped the water, because this guy had pissed in the reservoir.

网易河南省开封市网友 [各抒己见之我见]:

If the water quality is normal like this, we can only imagine what kind of water our citizens are drinking normally.

网易广东省深圳市南山区网友:

1200 obviously not normal farm pigs, probably from some pig farm. This should be investigated, and fined to hell. Dead pigs should be buried deep, so who TMD just dumped them into the river?

Comments from Sohu:

凉拌菜的微博:

Why did this batch of pigs die? Because they went to the river to drink water, also thinking at first that the water quality is normal, but then they all died.

给力部:

Thousands of dead pigs soaked and immersed in the Huangpu River for tens of hours and the water quality is still within standards? It can only show that our water quality standards are set too low.

米老鼠给力:

Recommend tossing in ginger, Chinese cinnamon, Sichuan peppers, fennel, yellow wine, sweet and sour, soy sauce, etc. and then stir it together [to make a broth/soup]…

搜狐新闻客户端网:

Investigate the source, fine the source, kill the source. When it comes to all of the problems in China, the one thing that is feared is that they’re handled at the dining table [through corruption with government officials].

天行健:

2012 the price of pork continues to drop, and no one in the government shows any interest. However, when pork prices go up, the country begins both regulating prices and importing pork, deathly afraid of pig farmers making any money. And entering 2013, pork prices further drop to 6 yuan while various kind of raw materials continues to increase in price. One pig sold is still a loss of about 300 [RMB]. Who would have the heart to continue on this way? This disease can be protected against and controlled, but it requires investment/money, and under the circumstances of already operating at a loss, who would be willing to make such a large investment/expense? Feeding them to maturity is losing money, so might as well just let die and save the trouble. Plus, the government’s pig subsidy just so happens to be reversed. When prices are low and subsidies are needed, they don’t subsidize. When the prices are high and subsidies aren’t needed, they subsidize recklessly. Right now pig farmers are losing money and the government doesn’t do anything. By the time mother pigs are massively slaughtered and pork prices increase a large margin, it’ll be too late. Yet another vicious cycle!

搜狐新闻客户端网友:

That many pigs dumped in the river and they aren’t able to find out who did it, sigh! Only by determining the source can we determine just what happened with these pigs and whether or not there will be pollution or contamination to the river water…

搜狐新闻客户端网友:

Big city Shanghai, simply different, so good it’s become disgusting. Beijing too is not bad, with their sand storms and smog. What’s the use in making that much money? Can health be purchased?

搜狐新闻客户端网友:

I still don’t understand, why not buried? Rotting in the water like this, just thinking about it is disgusting. [Does the person responsible] have something against the people of Shanghai?

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  • No Worries Mate

    white imperialism pigs

    • La Mano Gaucha

      More like CCP “officials”. Some day…

  • BiggJ

    Yummy. That reminds me……Bacon and egg for breakfast tomorrow.

  • meo fio

    mass suicide

    • slob

      zhu-icide

  • A Gawd Dang Mongolian

    So when they say no changes in the water, do they imply that the water was so full of parasites and microbes that the corpses of a couple thousand pigs barely added anything to the organic slurry, or that the pigs were all unnaturally clean?

    • La Mano Gaucha

      I’m pretty sure that they implied that the pigs were unnaturally clean. That water is pristine enough to use for popsicles. It always has and always will be.

      • mr.wiener

        porksicles.

        • Appalled@everything

          Corpsicles

          • Jahar

            you win.

          • http://simplydesigned.tumblr.com/ maybeabanana

            Oinksicles are boinkable. @-@

    • JayJay

      That’s porkies!!

  • La Mano Gaucha

    Even the pigs can’t take it anymore and are killing themselves en masse. What is the glorious Middle Kingdom coming to?

    • http://sinopathic.com/ terroir

      Month-long discount at the chuanr stall on the corner.

    • La Mano Gaucha

      14K+ pigs already as of March 20.

  • La Mano Gaucha

    For a second there, I thought that the article was going to be about the demise of government people. Bummer.

  • La Mano Gaucha

    “March 9th, a large number of dead pigs appeared floating on the Huangpu River surface in the Songjiang district of Shanghai. As of March 11th, already over 3000 pigs have been fished out.”

    “The Shanghai Municipal Agriculture Commission announced on the 11th that the dead pigs that were floating in the Huangpu River have undergone sampling and testing, with one sample testing positive for porcine circovirus, and the other specimens all testing negative.”

    Fast, reliable work… Quality control at its finest.

  • tweet1

    China is one of the last places on earth I would ever like the misfortune to visit on earth

    • jeffli

      I regret coming here, and am leaving this place!
      people are rude. ( some exceptions of course)
      place is filthy.
      everyone is corrupt and racist.

      • LuoyangLaowai

        Ive been here for 4 years without going home. I have no Idea why Im still here. I’ve decided I cant handle another year. I will leave this summer. I cant wait to get out of here. But for some reason. I feel like I will miss China at the same time once Im gone.

        • http://www.facebook.com/chris.mckenna.7509 Chris McKenna

          I’ve been back and forth to China for years now. I can take about a year or so before I have to leave, but I do always end up missing some things and coming back. Although it’s been nearly a year now and I’m still not tempted. Maybe it was just the place I was living (also Henan), but it does seem things are changing and that people have become less friendly, or maybe I’ve just been there long enough now to see something that was always there.

          • beijinger

            I have been here 3.5 years now and am also leaving….at the end of this month…A part of me feels like I will miss some aspects of this country as well. While there are pros and cons to everything, I also think a lot of it has to do with the fact that this was my home for a significant period of time, and there are sentiments that go along with that. That being said, I am really looking forward to getting away.

    • mr.wiener

      India would be worse, on the Ganges river you’d see dead people floating past and pariah dogs feasting on the remains on the banks. Varanasi , scary place, humanity in the raw.
      http://www.chinasmack.com/2010/pictures/filthy-india-photos-chinese-netizen-reactions.html

      • La Mano Gaucha

        Amazingly, India is indeed worse when it comes to filth. On the other hand, and in spite of its great problems, that country feels like a much more rewarding place to live in. The problem in China is the general populace, above all else — too morally bankrupt, too selfish, too greedy, too infantile, too uncultured, too arrogant, too dishonest, too negligent, too racist, too uncreative, too shallow, too uniform, too obnoxious, too disrespectful, too loud, too disinformed, etc. At least 95% of locals exhibit at least four of these “qualities”. That percentage is obviously much too high for a culture to be regarded as good. Mainland China is a sorry place. Almost eleven years here and counting… Three more to go. I can’t wait to leave.

        • http://simplydesigned.tumblr.com/ maybeabanana

          I agree with many of your thoughts but why not GTFO now? One of my American bud said that I should not feel sorry or look down on China because every country has its problems. And I believe he is right. At least they are smartening up to build its infrastructure and they are feeling prouder about who they are and their monetary significance now.

          • La Mano Gaucha

            I don’t “GTFO” now because of company duties and because my wife and I want our girl to be a little older.

            As you so tritely said, every country has its problems. Unfortunately, that fact does not make China any better or get it off the hook. Since China has been my home for one quarter of my life, I feel perfectly entitled to opine on it honestly, unreservedly, and without the slightest hesitation, pro or con. I would do the same — and have done the same — regarding any other country that I call home, including my own.

          • http://simplydesigned.tumblr.com/ maybeabanana

            You insult the whole of /’Mainland’/ China’s culture because you feel entitled to, for what is a so called common problem that exists with people. Seems like you feel so strongly about it but not enough to break past job duties and your family duties, trite as this may be. I only said I shouldn’t look down on China but never said they were an exception. Jeez CS is a place for circlejerks and entitled assholes like us, no need to defend how you would need to opine.

          • La Mano Gaucha

            My wife of nine years is from mainland China and she feels pretty much the same way as I do — she did even before we met. I also have a close Chinese friend (an author of books dealing with the history of the PLA) who views modern Chinese culture as a whole in the same light, this in spite of being a Chinese man through and through. Respect.

            It’s not an insult if it is the truth; it’s just that some people can’t handle it because they’ve been too damaged by dishonest and useless political correctness (some waiguoren) or just plain cowardice and/or opportunity (some waiguoren and most locals).
            Regarding assholes, please speak for yourself. I’m not an asshole; I’m more than that.

          • http://simplydesigned.tumblr.com/ maybeabanana

            My comment was to say you seem to disregard any good in culture. I may be an asshole and yeah everyone is entitled to their opinions and like I said that is fine and I can refute your comment if I want. You can insult and justify how you think your comment is the truth and boyyyyh does it offend me and that’s why I am here talking smack about China as well. You sound so righteous about defending what I throw at you , have at it dude cuz I certainly enjoy this circle jerk.

          • La Mano Gaucha

            You’re reading into my posts whatever suits you. It’s not worth responding to you anymore. Here’s your money…

          • http://simplydesigned.tumblr.com/ maybeabanana

            You are sure a subtle one at throwing insults . I really really want to say that the sad truth is that people are flawed by nature. Get off that damn pedestal dude because you sooooourrre is better than that by replying knowing so the second time. Ha! Respect, you won’t get it from me and I surely won’t care if you do. You poked the pooch and thx for the money!

        • Dr Sun

          “that country feels like a much more rewarding place to live in.”

          unless your’e a woman riding the bus, of course.

        • Kai

          Damn, dude, you listed so many negatives that I could probably find 95% of the locals of ANY country possessing at least four of them.

          “Rewarding” could mean anything, and different things for different people. If I were to oversimplify what makes one place more rewarding to live in than another, I’d look at immigration trends. Where countries are people going to, to live, settle down, or work? Ultimately, where you physically go says what is ultimately most rewarding to you.

          • La Mano Gaucha

            Even you are reading into my posts what you want, Kai. That’s kind of disappointing…

            At some point in our lives, we’re all guilty of some of the things I mentioned. That’s obvious. The issue here is not one of whether people express four or more of these traits; the issue is the consistency in which they are expressed, coupled with the **degree** in which they are expressed. That should have been clear enough in my post.

            During the last thirty years, I have had extended visits or lived in almost two dozen countries in every area of the world except the Middle East, and none of the peoples of those countries come anywhere near what most mainland folks are like. None. If China sincerely wishes to become a world-class place, its people must look at themselves in the mirror, compare and contrast themselves to others, and get their act together. This business of always deflecting their problems and justifying their anti-social behaviors by repeating the mantra that “it happens elsewhere too” is self-defeating and childish.

            In the PRC, I have known, met, befriended and/or worked with people from all over the globe — rich, poor and in-between countries, not just the stereotypical “west”. They work in many fields, not just the stereotype teacher (some of which do their job passionately and very professionally, I might add). *All* of them complain to varying degrees about the same things regarding China. All of them. The people are/were from the USA, the UK, Ireland, France, Spain, Italy, Switzerland, Portugal, Germany, Austria, Poland, Sweden, Finland, Russia, Ukraine, New Zealand, Australia, the Philippines, India, Sri Lanka, Thailand, Japan, Malaysia, Singapore, Taiwan, Hong Kong (legally a part of China), Macau (ditto), Nepal, Israel, Peru, Mexico, Puerto Rico, Brazil, Chile, Argentina, South Africa, Uganda… I probably missed a small handful, but I can’t recall at the moment… That’s a lot of countries spread all over the globe, mate. In fact, I’ve met more people from around the world here than anywhere else — it’s rather ironic, actually.
            In sum, the issue is not that the whole world is crazy and “out to get” mainlanders; the issue is China, and the issue is very real. That’s too bad because China does have some things that most of us enjoy. This country has much potential, but it is squandered by myopia, arrogance, bigotry and insularism. It’s sad, really… especially since the county has some great souls here and there. I’m married to one and know a tiny handful well.

            What you said regarding my mention of “reward” is related to what I just said, so I won’t comment on it. Regarding the other poster, he/she has misunderstood much of what I have written (including the mention of “respect”), probably because of language barrier, so I won’t respond to that either.

          • Kai

            I don’t think I’m necessarily reading what I want into what you said, I think I’m just arriving at a conclusion you didn’t intend and don’t like. That’s kinda normal in conversations. We try to communicate conclusions but can’t fully control what others conclude. Then it becomes about persuasion or consensus.

            I understood what you’re saying and my point is that other people can see 95% of the locals of any country exhibiting those same negative characteristics to a consistency and degree that would warrant them making the same conclusion. Your whole conclusion is couched in your own subjective and even ethnocentric sensibilities, tolerances, and biases. What’s to stop someone else from seeing the same thing about others from theirs?

            Nothing.

            I know you’re trying to argue that Chinese are OBJECTIVELY more damnable than other nationalities in those regards. That’s obvious. But it isn’t actually objective. That’s the point, and trying to argue that line of thinking is intellectually dishonest. Your position fails to a whole slew of fallacy tests. There’s nothing wrong with recognizing the limitations of personal observation, experience, and anecdote, which is what you’re basing your conclusions on and then broadening to some sort of argument that Chinese are objectively more guilty than others.

            I agree with you that many Chinese people have living habits, norms, mentalities, whatever that we find disagreeable and that many others also find disagreeable. I agree with you that if they care about how they’re viewed by others, it behooves them to get their act together and make themselves more palatable to those who would find them objectionable. If you care to fit in with others, then you have to figure out how to. If you don’t care, then you can go on standing apart from them. Every person has to make their own choice about how much the acceptance of others matters to them. No disagreement from me here.

            Nowhere did I suggest the issue is that “the whole world is crazy and ‘out to get’ mainlanders.” If I may say, that’s you reading what you want into what I said, right? I don’t really see how you thought that’s what I think from what I said at all, actually. It sounds to me that you’re trying to justify your opinion, when all I said is other people might have the same opinion you have about other people. Not sure what I said can be disagreed with. It may just be that you want people to only think that opinion about Chinese people?

            About “reward”, I don’t see how what I said relates to what you just said, actually. My point is that where people go could be interpreted as what they think are the most rewarding places for them be. The US and its history of immigration says a lot about how rewarding the US is, as does the changes in such trends. Immigration trends into China and India thus could also be indicative of how rewarding each country is to live in.

          • La Mano Gaucha

            “Nowhere did I suggest the issue is that “the whole world is crazy and ‘out to get’ mainlanders.” If I may say, that’s you reading what you want into what I said, right? I don’t really see how you thought that’s what I think from what I said at all, actually. It sounds to me that you’re trying to justify your opinion, when all I said is other people might have the same opinion you have about other people. Not sure what I said can be disagreed with. It may just be that you want people to only think that opinion about Chinese people?”

            Please re-read the very first sentence of your first post for me:

            “Damn, dude, you listed so many negatives that I could probably find 95% of the locals of ANY country possessing at least four of them.”

            Notice that you failed to take into consideration the issue of degree (i.e. you did not even allude to the fact that I used the word “too” no less than sixteen times in my original post); I did not merely list some things and say 95%. That qualifier (i.e. too) was the key to what I was saying.

            As demonstrated above, I did not read anything into your post. I took what you said purely at face value. Therefore, your point on your first post is fallacious because, whether accidentally or deliberately, it selectively distorted what I said.

            My point was/is that I would be very hard pressed to find a culture anywhere on this earth where at least 95% of the people continuously (and often willfully) exhibit four or more of those traits to such an extreme degree. I don’t think that I’ll be able to run into such a culture, frankly.

            “Your whole conclusion is couched in your own subjective and even ethnocentric sensibilities, tolerances, and biases.”

            Yes, certainly, but at least I base these on nearly eleven years of experience in the PRC and dealing with the locals at least 90% of the time, usually via the use of Mandarin. To a lesser extent, it is also based on anecdotal reports from friends and acquaintances from all over the world (including a few locals, actually). Indeed, its anecdotal, and therefore not as solid, but since most of these people I refer to are real professionals and world-travelled responsible folks (many with families), I do give them considerable credibility, especially since their tales and problems in China match those of my own. In sum, my conclusions are not *that* subjective. and should not be dismissed.

            The “reward” part is more complex and it does relate to many of the things we’ve been talking about, although you understandably don’t see that right now due to my lack of proper explanation. This is difficult to explain here because it would take too much space and time to do so (at least for me), so I won’t address that more a this time. All apologies.

            I agree with pretty much the rest of what you wrote.

            You’re articulate and I like that. I bet that you would be a good person to chat with tete-a-tete. Best regards!
            PS: I care about China a lot, in fact. This country has been very kind to me in some important ways, and some of the very closest and dearest people to me are Chinese. I wish that my wife and I could stay here for good, but we won’t because at the end of the day, the country makes us unhappy and we know that life can be much better for us elsewhere. I love China; I loathe China. I hope that you understand.

          • Kai

            How does that first sentence of my first reply to you suggest the whole world is crazy and out to get mainlanders? I thought it would suggest that your list of negatives was so exhaustive that I could probably find 95% of the locals of any country possessing at least four of them.

            How did I fail to take into consideration the issue of degree? My point is that degree is subjective. There is no objective measure of “too” in this case. For example, what’s to stop someone else from finding 95% of the locals of some other country “too” morally degenerate just as you’ve found the Chinese?

            How is the point of my first post fallacious? How did my point “selectively distort” what you said? I definitely didn’t distort what you were saying nor did I intend to. To me, it’s really straightforward. By analogy, it’s as if you said “these qualities make this flower beautiful” and me saying “with these qualities, I could say these other flowers are beautiful too”. I don’t see the selective distortion here.

            By the way, these aren’t rhetorical questions. I’d genuinely like to understand what you’re thinking for us to move this conversation forward.

            I know your point is that you think Chinese people/culture are the only people/culture where 95% of the people continuously exhibit at least four of the qualities you list. I’m not denying you that opinion. I’m just saying other people may feel the same way about other people/countries because the list of negative qualities you offered was so broad and subjectively interpretable. You personally don’t think other people/cultures could be as guilty as the Chinese, but can’t other people think so? According to what they consider “too” to be?

            I know you feel your experiences and the existence of people who share your experiences justify your conclusions, even if they are fallacies. Hell, most opinions and beliefs are based on these sort of fallacies. We’re all guilty of them. My point therefore had nothing to do with questioning your basis for your conclusion. I’m not saying you haven’t had the experience you’ve had and I’m not saying other people haven’t had them either. I’m not saying it’s abnormal for people to base their conclusions on such things. I’m just saying people might have similar conclusions and opinions about other people/cultures based on their own experiences, perceptions, shared sentiments and of course “ethnocentric sensibilities, tolerances, and biases”. The crux of this is because the list of qualities you listed is so general that anyone could identify such traits in the people of other countries as well. We might disagree with them, but in the end, it’s all subjective. For example, what you cite as dishonesty may be different from what others cite as dishonesty, but they could both be legitimately dishonest and legitimately “too” dishonest to the person holding such an opinion. It is possible for two people to consider two different targets to be too dishonest according to whatever their subjective measure is, right?

            On “rewarding”, I have an idea of what you meant, and I’m just presenting another perspective that I hoped would lead people to discuss just what “rewarding” actually means, and how people’s choices and actions might reveal what is truly “rewarding” to them versus what they might say what is “rewarding”. For example, a Chinese person might say China is the greatest country on earth, but immigrate to another country the first chance they get. So what does this say about what they really think versus what they say? Actions speak louder than words and all that.

            I appreciate the compliment as well as this conversation having remained civil and sincere. While I may disagree with your opinion or how you might express your opinion sometimes, my initial comment here was not about griefing you for your opinion.

  • don mario

    sincerely glad i dont live in china anymore.

  • KAMIKAZIPILOT

    Of course the tap water quality is normal, the river’s already so polluted what’s an extra 3,000 rotting pigs going to do. Based on this story and the discovery of the body in the hotel water tank in L.A., dead bodies, while gross, do nothing to affect the quality of the water.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=22624249 Sean Cauffiel

      ….because the government is being 150% truthful about the quality of the water coming from the Huangpu River. Ah, HA!

      • Appalled@everything

        Exactly what I thought. Singling out one non-lethal-to-humans bacteria and branding that the only thing worthy of mention. A lot of poor people in Shanghai have no choice but to drink that water, they can’t afford bottled water, and everyone showers in it and washes their dishes and food in it. I am so happy my wife and baby and myself are out of Shanghai now.

    • radbab

      hah! I like your definition of “normal”. In the summer the tap water here grows arms and legs if you leave a glass of it around for one day. On the day after it will start to attack you and then eat your brains…

    • linette lee

      I would think the china people drink water from water reservoirs. They treat the water before it goes to the public as drinking water. No?

      • KAMIKAZIPILOT

        Maybe, but I read this story on a US news website too and it said that the river was a source of drinking water for Shanghai. Of course they treat the water, not sure how well they treat it though. It might still not be safe to drink.

    • Dr Sun

      lol

  • jeffli

    Idiot dirty peasants. What are they thinking?
    Third world country!
    Govt is stupid too!

    • Jahar

      let’s hurl insults! That’ll show em!

  • http://www.chinasmack.com/ MrT

    you would think someone would miss 1000 plus pigs from their backyard.

    • Kai

      Not unless they were the ones who got rid of them?

      • http://www.chinasmack.com/ MrT

        Oh the pigs were still tagged, so they know who, seems the pigs were ill, so the farmer dumped em

  • HEMINATOR

    KFP scandal ?!

  • PixelPulse

    It must have been an odd day for whoever first saw all the dead pigs floating around.

    • grovesman

      Hmmm…as things go here in the Heavenly Kingdom, probably not an odd day for the locals.

  • JPAX

    No wonder the price of pork keeps rising…..

  • Alphy

    Yeah… I was pretty disgusted when I first learn of this. I kept thinking about the shower I took in the morning, and how it was bath water for thousands of pigs. Then I read that normally it isn’t that bad… only couple pigs can be spotted at one time… Oh great… what disease am I going to get now?

    • MonkeyMouth

      you choose… 3000 pigs , or, 1 elisa lam?

      • Washington Bullets

        Ouch, that’s a tough one, water’s probably better in L.A. though. Too soon for Elisa Lam.

        • mr.wiener

          Pork or Lam? [sorry, too soon]
          Has there been any news on that case?

          • Appalled@everything

            I checked for updates, the head investigator has released no new information on her death, the case is being handled very secretive apparently. Still nothing from her autopsy indicates the cause of death either.

      • Alphy

        Neither… I just don’t think I have a choice though. That or I just don’t shower till I get back to US. Ewww…

        Somehow I have to disinfect the water…Too bad I can only brush my teeth with mouthwash. I need to invent a personal pollution monitor, so I don’t have to rely on China news to avoid Pig water bath.

    • linette lee

      Why they dump dead pigs into the river? What’s the reason? Why not just burn the dead pigs?

      • http://simplydesigned.tumblr.com/ maybeabanana

        Because it’s easier to make it someone else’s problem.

      • Alphy

        They were suppose to either bring it to local collection site, which surprisingly are now found to be non-existent or ill equip to handle normal demands, or simply bury them.

        The farmers were doing neither before, as the pigs were sold to re-seller that buys dead pigs. The area around the discarding pigs were found to be cracking down on these illicit re-seller, and burying the pigs require lands that they don’t have. The problem become severe now also because of the lowering of pork prices, and thus farmer claim that they cannot afford to keep the pigs healthy from common disease. As China do not have a balance agriculture subsidy system that stabilize prices, the government only reacts to high prices where the farmers really don’t need much help.

        • linette lee

          I guess it’s easier than burning 1000 pigs.

      • Alphy

        Here’s an update. About 6000 pigs are now collected. Main reason told by authority is due to the crack down of illegal sick/dead pig meat trade.

        http://shanghaiist.com/2013/03/13/official_hog_wash_figure_more_than_doubles_to_5916_pig_corpses_in_shanghai_water_supply.php

  • Germandude

    It appears someone had the idea to cut down transportation costs and sent those pigs downstream.

    • http://sinopathic.com/ terroir

      I think you’re refering to ….trickle down economics

      (I get to put on the sunglasses)

  • MonkeyMouth

    a certain Creedence Clearwater Revival song come to mind…..
    rollin….rollin… rollin on the river.,……

  • TWD

    Don’t you forget that China is the place where the Zombie Apocalypse will start

  • cc

    just think of all those bacon sandwiches gone to waste.

    • Jahar

      don’t you mean “beef”?

      • cc

        Since when has a pig, as in Porky Pig resembled beef, as in moo cow? The contaminated water has addled your brain, stop drinking it.

        • grovesman

          I think he might be referring to the news a couple of years ago, give or take, where restaurants and markets were “treating” pork to make it look like beef so that they could sell it at a higher price.

          Just a guess but I say this only because he used quotes around the word beef.

          • Jahar

            Good guess.

          • cc

            I can’t remember last week let alone two years ago, whats the matter with you people storing meaningless news, do you not have something better to do?

          • grovesman

            When you stop rolling fatties and drinking whatever, your memory improves immensely…lol

          • cc

            point taken

      • Kai

        Hah, good one, though I hear the whole beef-horse thing in Europe is getting people pretty riled up.

  • Washington Bullets

    … To think Americans were worried about a bacon shortage in the Fall of 2012.

    I remember standing on the banks of the Huangpu last summer and thinking to myself that someone would have to pay me ALOT of money to take a dip in there. Now, I don’t think anything could get me to do it. Imagine the potential for influenza vectors, aside from Porcine Circovirus. Influenza undergoes rapid mutation in the combined presence of both pigs and humans, granted the pigs are already dead, but it’s a bit unnerving to think that over 3,000 pigs were found in the drinking water source of the largest city on Earth.

  • Zening Chen

    so many wasted pork chops

  • Nowen

    Wow. This is a scene I would expect to see in a surrealist novel or something by Marquez – not in a news headline.

  • xiaohouzi

    No wonder diseases like SARS start and spread in China. When will they learn to leave the animals alone and go back to eating plants? It’s not good for anyone, especially those poor pigs.

    • Tadd

      Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy (BSE mad cow disease) – UK
      Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS) – China
      Swine Influenza (SIV) – US

      I reckon, the next to hit will be Oncorhynchus Disease (kamikazi sushi) – Japan

      • Dr Sun

        funny…like it.

    • http://simplydesigned.tumblr.com/ maybeabanana

      I believe the question should be rephrased as ‘when will they learn to farm their animals naturally?’. Certainly the capitalist farmers would not serve GMO feeds but natural ones have been killed mostly by Monsanto, feeding other dead animals to them or even pig cannibalism since the natural growth and waiting period is too costly.

  • Appalled@everything

    The Ganges river really has its work cut out for it if it wants to keep its reputation as the number 1 floating corpse river now.

    On a side note though, 3000 dead pigs in the Huangpu river – will Shanghai people petition for an investigation? Will local authorities start an immediate in-depth inquiry? will the new premier come to visit to oversee this bizarre and scandalous scene and deliver a statement? will the pig farms up river all be closed and declared crime scenes? will the Shanghai mayor issue a formal statement on the news? will things change in China even slightly as a result of this?

    “Computer says No.”

    • A Gawd Dang Mongolian

      Actually I think there will be complaining. There might even be a petition for investigation.

      That petition will eventually reach a government official where it will promptly be thrown in the ‘emergency toilet paper’ pile.

  • Gontraf

    3000 pigs is pretty hambelievable.

  • Yomamatambien

    Don’t eat anymore pork, who knows how many of these dead pigs got sold to some Chinese restaurant at a “discount”

    • Dr Sun

      my guess, all of them

    • Kai

      Rumor has it that a lot of the feet (hooves?) or legs of the dead pigs disappeared overnight. Rumor, hearsay, but altogether still disturbing.

      • linette lee

        yuk,,, no pork for 2 months.

        • Kai

          Heh, I had pork dumplings tonight. I refuse to be cowed by such news!

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Marvin-Wells/100003039020163 Marvin Wells

      Mother of god….

  • Big Bad Boy

    They are not pigs, they are actually Yangtze River Dolphins…and they are supposed to be there! Please stop spreading misinformation on the Chinese Intellinet!

    • grovesman

      lol…nice…

  • whatamess

    just said the water quality is normal… did not say if it was safe. just another average day of nasty water…normal

  • A Lu

    I don’t really understand. I’ve been here for a few years and I’ve never had any health problem, despite the poisoned food, air, water etc etc. I’d expect to have food poisoning once a week at least, or have my organs and blood wasted by now, but nothing.
    I’m waiting for cancer to kick in before I’m 40.

    • carmouflagger

      Been asking myself the same question. 3 years, never fallen sick, just a few headaches (which is expected) O.o

    • Kai

      LoL, yeah, but the understanding is that all the poisons and toxins are probably just accumulating in your body resulting in a shorter lifespan or some horrific ailment that hasn’t yet manifested.

      When you think about it though, despite all the scary stories and news, people in China aren’t exactly dropping like flies. There must be some truth to what doesn’t kill you only makes you stronger.

  • Hilarious

    I can´t post anything here at the moment, someone banned me :). I don’t think i wrote anything so bad i got banned,hmm…interesting. Guess changing IP-ad works. Any of these topics won’t answer, “you don’t have permission to post anymore”….or what so ever.

    • Kai

      Contact us with your information and we’ll look into it. We regularly block spammers and less regularly block people with repeat comment policy violations.

  • mattsm84

    I look forward to hearing about how this is all the outside world’s fault.

  • Barney Rubble

    “These dead hogs mainly come from areas upstream of Shanghai.” if they mainly came from areas upstream then that suggests a few came from downstream?

  • Reginald

    I left China a while back and had a check up at the hospital.

    The doctor asked “so do you want to go on a a smoking cessation program, not good news I’m afraid”, I have never smoked! Getting back home was the best thing ever, although I had no real money and no job, things did pick up and now I’m settling in again. Blue skies, what I want in the supermarket, nobody cheating me or calling me names in the street and its great to be able to talk to everyone and not dive into the 20 questions game that’s so tiring in China. Never going back!

  • Mingtb

    ” Wealthy people on the Chinese mainland are transferring more of their assets overseas, a report by the Boston Consulting Group (BCG) and China Construction Bank says.”

    “China’s rich were moving assets abroad in search of better and more stable investment returns. Some were preparing for emigration or their children’s educations. Asset security and privacy were also major reasons.”

    http://english.caixin.com/2013-03-12/100500565.html

  • magarity

    I bet the sanitation department’s manager just opened a sausage factory.

  • WastheHotelDirectorFRENCH

    This is why its NOT a good idea setting foot in China these days. The food’s contaminated, so is the water, so is the air etc., and unless I can fly in MREs and survive off them (together with bottled water brought in from stateside), its a definite risk just being in China!

  • bert

    Coming to your dinner table soon!

  • donkeykong

    “China pulls nearly 6,000 dead pigs from Shanghai river”

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-21766377

  • donkeykong

    “Number of pigs plucked from Shanghai river tops 12,000″.

    http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/number-of-pigs-plucked-from-shanghai-river-tops-12-000-1.1198284

  • Ced

    I have photo of dead pig in Shenzhen river in Guanlan – near the Guanlan People’s Park under around the bridge… I told the police and a crowd gathered, the police showed up and shrugged, we called – no authorities did anything although we spoke to several police… we tried to flag down police but were ignored. A couple of the pictures are corrupted during the upload and don’t see how to replace them. I uploaded again the pictures I took that in which the files got corrupted on the upload – again.

  • Ced

    I re-uploaded a couple pictures that were corrupted to my previous post… 5 minutes ago. This is Shenzhen – the river in Guanlan – see my previous post for a map – this is totally ignored by the authorities in Shenzhen – even though we called several times and many police showed-up they shrugged their shoulders and did nothing. We wanted tests on the pig for disease – and search for more pigs…dumped.

  • trouse

    they give up already on CN because people there replace their post already…pity for the pigs.

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