Wuhan Police Challenge Media to Secretly Investigate Them

Chinese police officers eating a simple meal in a park.

From NetEase:

Wuhan Public Security Bureau Division “Challenges” the Media: You’re Welcome to Secretly Investigate Us

Legal Evening News report — Recently, the conflict arising from Southern Metropolis Daily reporters secretly investigating Shenzhen Ministry of Public Security officials dining on Chinese giant salamander in a restaurant attracted the public’s attention. This afternoon [January 29th], the official microblog of one of Wuhan’s Public Security Bureau divisions published multiple photos of police officers sitting around in circles eating sweet potatoes and boxed meals, with captions “Southern Metropolis Daily, come quick! We’re about to dine!” and “Definitely using public funds, guaranteed to be wild, you’re welcome to come secretly investigate us!” Tonight, this microblog explained itself: “Stop [government officials] using public funds to wine and dine, but the public and private must be separated, as police are also people, who have basic rights, that no one may deprive them of!”

January 26, Southern Metropolis Daily published a report claiming that while their journalists were secretly investigating Ministry of Public Security government officials dining on giant salamander at a restaurant,the officials involved and the journalists clashed, resulting in the journalists being beaten and stripped of their mobile phones and cameras. Moreover, upon being notified, east Shenzhen police assisted the aggressors in leaving the premises.

In response to this, the Shenzhen Public Security Bureau issued a response on the 26th claiming that they have already suspended the 14 Ministry of Public Security police officers suspected of violating regulations, and have submitted themselves to investigation. An investigation has been opened against east Shenzhen Ministry of Public Security Police Chief Wang Yuanping. After the investigation has completed, the Shenzhen Public Security Bureau will report their findings in a timely manner. For several days, this incident has incited widespread discussion in the media and throughout the Public Security system.

This afternoon, the Wuhan Public Security Bureau Criminal Investigation Office Canine Unit’s official microblog “警犬旺财” posted eight photos of police officers sitting around gathered to eat boxed meals and sweet potatoes, with the officers in the photos pictured eating simple meals by the side of the road, next to mounds of snow, inside a park, and such places. The microblog also added the captions “Southern Metropolis Daily, come quick! We’re about to dine!” and “Definitely using public funds, guaranteed to be wild, you’re welcome to come secretly investigate us!”

Two different opinions appeared in the comments to this microblog post. Some netizens said to “upvote/like” such cautious and conscientious basic-level police officers who work hard serving the people, being extremely understanding of the hardships they endure. However, even more netizens expressed that combining/conflating the hardships of low-level officers with the extravagance of high-level officials was not appropriate.

At 7:24pm, this official microblog account made a response to this matter, saying “Stop [government officials] using public funds to wine and dine, but the public and private must be separated, as police are also people, who have basic rights, that no one may deprive them of!” At the same time, it also said: “We thank those who support us, while those who don’t support us also have the right to express themselves, so please do as you will!”










Comments from NetEase:

shkl19990 [网易山东省淄博市网友]:

Using front-line police officers as scapegoats, talk about not paying attention.

持砖观望 [网易广东省深圳市网友]:

Honestly, basic-level police really do have it very hard!

hellj [网易广东省韶关市网友]:

As a police officer, you cannot hold yourself to the standards of an ordinary common person. If you want to stress your basic rights, then return to being an ordinary common person. To be a police officer is to have a profession that is different from the ordinary common people, and it is your profession that holds you to standards different than that of an ordinary common person. You should understand this. If you don’t even understand this, then you are not fit to be a police officer.

围园的阿伯 [网易广东省网友]:

Assault is indeed wrong, but police officer are also people. A few thousand for a single meal. That’s something many people in Shenzhen can afford to eat. If they paid for it themselves [instead of using public funds], then what’s the problem?

lilan4921981 [网易河南省洛阳市网友]:

Don’t look at the fun and games now, be wary of accounts being settled in the future.

最烦脑残喷子 [网易陕西省西安市手机网友]:

This incident is actually as follows. I’m judging it as it stands. Everyone see if it’s right.
1. A retired older cop treated several old colleagues out to eat.
2. The giant salamander was farmed [raised in captivity, not wild].
3. Whether or not it was paid with private funds is currently being investigated. It was 190 yuan RMB per person.
4. To make headlines, the reporter had packaged [sensationalized] parts of the story, such as whether or not the title mentioned if it was wild or farmed, and whether it was one person or a group of people who assaulted him. This kind of news has already deviated from the original intention of reporting the news, with the reporter changing from being a third-party to a participant.
5. Assault is wrong. What lead to the assault/beating is not made clear.
6. Afterward, to quiet the reporter, even more extreme things were done, causing even more police to be unhappy.
Conclusion: Recorders of the news should objectively, truthfully, and accurately record news facts, show the truth, with the incident at the center. However, this incident started with the reporter investigating in a questionable way, or in other words, if you are not violating the rules, and are drinking and hanging out with your bros when suddenly someone comes saying this and that, what would you think?
Of course, assault is wrong. However, the assault, any violation of regulations, and the reporter’s integrity are three separate things.

网易陕西省宝鸡市岐山县手机网友 ip:113.201.*.*

First, every person is a natural person, and a person of society, and only afterward becomes someone who undertakes an occupation… When even private gatherings are uniformly prohibited, it is not wrong to say it is an overreaction/going too far.

网易安徽省淮南市手机网友 ip:112.123.*.*

Why is the public security system [police] seen as a bunch of people who wine and dine [on the public’s money] in the eyes of the ordinary common people? Do you [members of the system] not think about why? Always complaining when you’re tired [have things difficult]. You’re tired but are you not getting paid wages? If you weren’t being paid, would you still do the job? All day long blindly prattling. Look at sanitation workers. They’re all temporary workers, getting only so much money a month, doing what kind of work, The formal workers are all getting paid by the government and paying [a fraction to] these people. Bullshit social equality.

宰执 [网易贵州省毕节市手机网友]:

That’s cocky. Just don’t cry if you really are investigated. (T_T)

网易湖南省长沙市手机网友 ip:222.244.*.*

Stupid cunt government leaders only know how to block and censor media coverage. What does poor governing ability have to do with the media? A group of high officials in Shenzhen have a dinner gathering and misused police resources, which is indeed violating regulations, and they even beat up the undercover reporter. Is there any defense?

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  • Amused

    Seems the bottom level guys are just a bit bitter their bribe situation isn’t going so well.

    • 山炮 ShanPao

      What do they have to moan about? Have you ever seen a cop in China doing their job? All I ever see is them standing on street corners telling me off for crossing the road when theres no cars coming. Apart from that they’re either sleeping or driving around town, off duty with their lights on. Check this guy polishing off a bottle on lunch.

      • Amused

        Hey, this guy’s family probably paid a lot of money to get him this job that he doesn’t do. He probably drinks everyday because he’s very sad that he can’t figure out who to extort money from in order to kick up to his boss and secure a promotion. It’s all very tragic and you can see the effects of the situation written all over his face. I mean how is he ever going to afford a mistress, much less a second wife?

      • fury

        the guy is not a cop(警察). he is a security guard(保安) for company, The majority of laowai is so stupid. They have no idea what they are talking about.

        • 山炮 ShanPao

          Ah thats okay then… drinking on the job is fine if you are a 保安。


          • JayJay

            He may be off duty and having a meal before going home?

          • Probotector

            Could be, but some might say it’s unprofessional to be cracking open the baijiu and getting merry, as he clearly is, while still in uniform.

        • 山炮 ShanPao

          …and the photo has nothing to do with my point, just illustration of China as a backward nation.

          It doesn’t change the fact that Chinese cops do nothing all day.

          It doesn’t change the fact that drinking a bottle at lunchtime, whilst at work is a big no, no in any other country.

          Nice try…

          • biggj

            But on the other side of the coin would you want chinese cops acting like american cops? Where they take their job too serious? I agree the chinese cops don’t do too much, but all that means is the average person has a little freedom to do stuff. I rather have cops that are laid back than cops that are uptight.

          • ClausRasmussen

            Considering that Chinese cities feels rather safe compared to Western cities even though they are a lot more crowded, the police must be doing something right

          • Don’t Believe the Hype

            Yeah the ones who cause trouble are never seen again.

          • Small twon

            HA ! Funny guy !

          • Probotector

            No, it’s because Chinese are generally less violent to each other and don’t have a drugs & booze culture, nor a culture that glorifies violence like the West does.

          • ClausRasmussen

            Yes, and that culture also calls for a less violent or intimidating police. Western police in China would be greeted as an occupying army and probably cause a riot. Chinese police in the US would be eaten alive

          • Probotector

            Then it’s not that “the police must be doing something right”, it’s that society is. The behaviour of the police is irrelevant in this case.

            You can’t just say ‘western’ police as if they’re all the same. I think you mean American police, (maybe that’s what you’re alluding to), although they are not all the same as each other either. Also, I think Chinese police can be tough when the need arises.

          • ClausRasmussen

            >> it’s not that “the police must be doing something right”, it’s that society is

            Police is part of the society, it is a two way street. You can’t have a mainly non-violent society if the police is seen as violent.

            We’re are of course speaking in general terms here. There are plenty of examples of Chinese police brutality that far exceeds what can be found in Western countries

          • Amused

            If you live anywhere in the US except an inner city, the crime is negligible man. I lived in a small town and never locked the doors to my car or my house and had zero probs, and yet living in the city you’d be insane to do the same. Its just those …..people… in the inner city who have a different culture that make the US dangerous.

          • KamikaziPilot

            “If you live anywhere in the US except an inner city, the crime is negligible man”. Maybe not a big part of your everyday life but to say it’s negligible means you’re either very naive or very lucky or both. I’ve lived in big cities and small towns and I’ve always locked my doors but still been burglarized. I believe you but you’re part of a very small minority who didn’t lock their doors.

          • Amused

            No I just lived in the South back then.

          • KamikaziPilot

            FYI the South in general has the highest crime rate (and poverty) of any region in the US, especially violent crime. I don’t think you’re a typical case, and I’d advise everyone to lock their doors, except if you’re that rare person who lives in a very small town where everybody knows each other.

          • Amused

            I left my doors unlocked for years man. Of course people around where I lived knew if you got found in another man’s property, odds are you weren’t coming out on ur own two feet again. I don’t think that’s the only reason tho; people were just very polite where I lived. But yeah, there are nasty places in the South too *cough Florida cough*, or I suppose any trailer park is like the PJs. Ehhh pardon and typos= its 4:14 and I’m wasted :)

          • KamikaziPilot

            Like I said I believe your experience. I just think your experience is an aberration, not a common experience. The vast majority of people in the US lock their doors and are aware of being possible victims of crime. Only a very small percentage live in small towns like you described. It’s just when you said that crime is negligible in the US except for inner cities, I don’t agree with that statement.

          • Amused

            It’s always possible man. I also lived in D.C. and Baltimore for 5-6 years and didn’t feel safe walking down the street even when I was carrying. It could just be knowing what and who to look out for.

          • Probotector

            That logic isn’t entirely sound. You can have excessively violent police/military-style enforcers who break the society into a non-violent submission; think any police state in history. Also, you can have unarmed, politically correct police, who are too weak to counter excessive violence in society.

            As for the police being a part of society, yes and no. Yes, some members of a nation’s society make up the police, among other civil servants. However, the police as an institution, and society as a collective grouping of all of a nation’s people, need to be separated when considering the former’s power and influence over the latter, most notably, the police’s ability to somewhat shape the nature of the society it serves.

            Having said that, and in fact, more critical to the issue at hand, there are many other facets of society that instill betterment in people apart from the police; educators, for example, as well as family values and the government itself. So to say that a society being safe must be because the police are good, is spurious reasoning at best, especially in a nation like China, whose police are notoriously corrupt and ineffective.

          • ClausRasmussen

            Ok, let me list some things I believe they’re doing right:

            1). They are assigned to a district for life and supposed to live there and know the citizens. That puts pressure on eventual criminals even before they become criminals: If you know inspector Ma and he knows you, perhaps you’ll think twice before robbing a store then ?

            2). They use force far less than Western counterparts. Until recently they were entirely unarmed, thus not getting into an arms race with criminals. Compare that to the US where both cops and crooks are armed like soldiers in a war zone

            3). They have a philosophy about letting people resolving their differences by themselves, if possible. A tradition that I’ve read stems from virtually self-ruling villages in ancient China. Combined with their compensation system that leads to a situation where offenders are punished economically but are still productive members of the society instead of being thrown to jail, thus avoiding collateral damage on families

            4). They’re often embodying the law rather than enforcing the law. You’ll often see Chinese people engaged in a loud quarrel with some officers standing by, seemingly passive, but what they does is to symbolize that the law is there and at some point they’ll have to reach an agreement or be dragged off to the station. That put a social pressure on people to comply instead of a physical pressure, yet another step-down on the confrontational scale

            5). They’re using cameras extensively in confrontations with citizens. You’ll often see an officer with a camera while his colleges resolve a situation. Afterwards claims and counter-claims that can easily be sorted out by consulting the videos

            6). They try hard to not humiliate people, are usually polite, and showing patience far beyond the point where this Westerner would have “lost it”

            There are of course a lot of exceptions, corruption, lazy cops, incompetent cops, violent cops, or even murderous cops, but I’m speaking in general terms here. For a country of Chinas size, stage of development, and with the extreme differences in wealth, it is remarkable how easy going their police are

          • Xia

            US criminals have easy and 24/7 access to firearms. That makes all the difference.

          • Probotector

            Well no, not all criminals have ‘easy 24/7 access to firearms’, and not all crime in the US is gun crime, and we’re not just talking about America here either. Western nations as a whole have out of control crime when compared to China, for, but not limited to, the reasons I listed above.

            Nevertheless, guns are of course a major factor, if that’s just what you were getting at.

          • Xia

            In my opinion, guns are the underlying cause of the shoot first, ask questions later mentality of American cops. Different weapons, different game.

          • Kai

            Er, I wouldn’t say that. As much as it might be a “positive” stereotype of the Chinese, I don’t think it’s really true and will prove misleading and unfair.

            Edit: To clarify, I can’t help but think of all the ways Chinese are violent and do have a drugs and booze culture. From reading Claus’s comments below, I get that you guys are generalizing in a certain way of course, but I nonetheless wanted to voice my hesitation.

          • ClausRasmussen

            We are of course generalizing but we base our discussion on two observations that we share with several other Westerners that have visited China: That Chinese cities feels remarkable safe and that Chinese police act differently than Western police. We disagree on how or if these two observations are connected and to what extent it is caused by Chinese culture

          • Luke the Duke

            lol. Yeah, like the freedom attack a stranger in the street or rape a girl walking alone at night and know that the police won’t be on the scene until you’re long gone.

          • biggj

            You can be robocop and it wont make a difference. Unless the cop is right there as you are doing the crime. They can rarely ever prevent anything.

          • Probotector

            Any policeman should do their job properly. If you feel that’s sometimes ‘uptight’, then you need to have more respect for the law.

          • Alex Dương

            Sometimes police officers abuse their authority (e.g. lie about how it is illegal to film them). Dunno if that’s what biggj had in mind with “uptight,” but that comes to my mind immediately.

          • Probotector

            Here again I see. Well you can be if you wish. Regardless of what he was referring to specifically, there is an underlying trend some people have about the police being petty and uptight. The point is, it doesn’t matter how minor the crime, if the law says it’s illegal, the police have a duty to enforce it.

          • biggj

            Some cops are just dicks….there is no way around it. I live in rural area where there are not many people. And if driving after 11pm the cops will pull me over for no reason other than to see who I am and what i’m doing. They never do anything to me….because all my shit in order. But they make an excuse that we are looking for “Someone” and its all just bullshit, they just want to hope to pull over a random person who don’t have there shit together like insurance and so on. It’s just small things like that that piss me off. And they abuse their authority so much….it’s sickening.

            And I don’t need to have more respect for the law, the law needs to have more respect for people.

          • 山炮 ShanPao

            No I wouldnt. I’d want them acting like British cops.

        • ClausRasmussen

          To be fair, China has a bewildering number of uniformed groups: Regular police, Criminal police, Traffic police, Chengguan, State Security Bureau officers, Security guards, PA police, Riot police, PA regulars, Embassy police, and more

          • Probotector

            Railway Staff

        • Probotector

          The man just made a mistake. Can you identify all uniforms if you went to XYX foreign country, bearing in mind how much China militarises everything? In any case it’s hardly fair to say “The majority of laowai is so stupid (nice cowardly racial epithet there btw, one you can get away with easily). They have no idea what they are talking about”, unless you’re harbouring some sort of gruge. In that case, that’s your problem so deal with it. 6 upvotes too, the apologists are out in force today.

        • jaded

          that’s hilarious, considering many here lack the common sense to even look left or right when crossing ebike lanes.

      • Probotector

        That’s one unsightly mug, and what is it with complete baldness in China? Also, uniform looks like a bao an, not a cop, and they’re often drunk on the job without consequence.

      • Mighty曹

        Doesn’t matter if he’s a policeman or a security guard, he definitely has a face that oozes ‘corruption’.

        • YourSupremeCommander

          Dude, what up bro? I was just going to say what made you take off that big red hat…

  • AbC

    Why are they all dining on side of roads, car bonnets, retaining walls, napkin placed on the floor, etc? An attempt to make the Chinese public feel sorry for them?
    (That make shift table using 3 riot shields is quite intuitive)

    • Jahar

      It’s all for show. I live in Wuhan, and this is just them getting the low level cops to show how frugal they are, or whatever.

      • Ale Jandro

        You are not living in Wuhan, you are surviving Wuhan… I survived Wuhan 2 years and no more.
        And the police there sucks: they are a gang of coward sheeps… I can’t stand them.

    • the captains dine in French restaurants on New Years while people get trampled to death

  • icup ✔️

    you know if i was to eat on the floor i would sit indian style and place the box on my lap or hold it with one hand… this just seems set up.

    • Free Man

      You clearly haven’t been in China before. The streets are so dirty … I can’t find words to describe it. Just imagine a really dirty public toilet. Then imagine sitting indian style on that place. Feel disgusted? Now you feel the way I feel about sitting indian style on chinese streets.

      • icup ✔️

        it’s too dirty for their butt… but not for their food to be placed on the ground? that’s even worse. imagine having to eat in a bathroom stall by your description but the toilet seat is too dirty to sit on but instead they place their food on the toilet seat and pop a squat in front of it.

        (you are correct, i haven’t been to china.)

        • Shitreligion

          Facepalm。。。 Did the food touch the ground directly?

    • ClausRasmussen

      You almost never see Chinese people sit flat on the ground as Westerners do

    • Irvin

      When my gf sits on a public bench, she place a tissue on it before sitting, maybe the cops just ran out of tissues, mainlanders really care about their butt hygiene.

    • Kai

      There are reasons to feel this all seems set up, but the people squatting while they eat really isn’t one of them. A lot of Asians are pretty damn adept at squatting, with an ease and endurance that I think is rare for most Westerners.

      I want to joke that it’s because of all the squat toilet training they’ve had growing up, but whatever it is, they can squat comfortably eating or smoking a cigarette or just hanging out when a Westerner would’ve long lost circulation to their lower legs forcing them to stand up and walk around wincing with all the needles in their legs.

      We used to call it the “Asian squat”. Where I’m from, it was always the Koreans who exemplified it.

  • Poodle Tooth

    “Shenzhen Ministry of Public Security officials dining on Chinese giant salamander in a restaurant”

    I would gladly dine on these officials.

  • A Touch of Sin

    China is admitting people have basic human rights? This is new.

  • Edward Kay

    Sit type toilet bowls don’t sell well there.

  • Yes!

    Nothing to see here. It’s the norm in China.

  • moop

    I always see them napping in their cars, never seen them eating by the side of the road whilst squatting.

  • FYIADragoon

    Well, if they are not eating, then they are usually sleeping or playing on their phones. So I’m glad that they captured the Chinese police doing one of the only three things they know to do.

    • ClausRasmussen

      They know how to let people sort out their differences by themselves and only intervene if things threaten to escalate, and then only with minimal use of force

      It is a cultural thing. Don’t apply Western standards of policing without considering the context they’re working in

      Note for example that until recently Chinese police managed to keep order without being armed in one of the most crowded places on Earth. Try doing that in some US cities!

      • Amused

        Western police would remove the old ladies with the boom box who used to dance in front of my house BEFORE my Hungarian neighbor put his speakers in the windows and blasted Slayer at them…

        • ClausRasmussen

          Hahaha… I has its ups and downs, I admit that lol

          You’ll probably love the story about some Chinese aunties trying their best moves in New York. They were promptly arrested, dragged before a judge, and fined

          • Probotector

            Bear in mind, there’s a lot of crimes in the West that China does not have a law for. Animal cruelty and disturbing the peace come to mind.

          • ClausRasmussen

            >> lot of crimes in the West that China does not have a law for

            That’s part of the reason why Chinese police are sometimes called pussies or worse, but it is hard to blame them: Who would like to live in a society where police arrested you for stuff that wasn’t illegal ?

          • Probotector

            Who would like to live in a society where police arrested you for stuff that wasn’t illegal ?

            Yeah, but some of it should be. Laws are based on morality, and if there’s no law against something that’s clearly wrong (animal cruelty for example) or there exists a law against something that is perfectly fine (laws against free speech for example), then it illustrates the society is morally vacuous.

          • Ale Jandro

            like riding the ebike in the wrong direction? peddling? driving a car without a plate?
            About the last one I saw some policeman asking a man to stop because his vehicle hasn’t a plate. Instead of pursuing him, they (yes, they) start yelling.
            That’s all a policeman can do here? they are pussies and this way they will never be able to enforce the law.

      • FYIADragoon

        Well in my personal experience with at least the officers in Shanghai I can tell you that’s mostly BS. Unless you hold enough sway over the people that manage the police, they rarely move to solve any but the most easy or publicized of cases or requests. They will probably feed people the tagline you just stated, but that’s not the way things are.

        On a side note: US police could keep order if the government actually had their backs for a minute instead of placating to an African-American community in serious need of a wake up call.

        • ClausRasmussen

          While I agree with your last paragraph I still think there is a cultural difference between Westerners and Chinese people that calls for different kinds of policing

  • Probotector

    Will it be these reporters’ first taste of investigative journalism, I mean, you know, as opposed to propaganda script reading?

  • Vance

    I’m still new on CS. I can tell that you all have so much affection for China. I have to say I would not do my job as well if I had to take my lunch breaks sitting in mud and snow and such. Why don’t they go to the doughnut shops ( or Chinese equivalent) like they do in other parts of the world? These were not posed for this challenge since some were taken in summer and some were taken in winter.

    • YourSupremeCommander

      “I would not do my job as well if I had to take my lunch breaks sitting in mud and snow and such…”

      Firemen would also not do their jobs so well if they knew every time they are called upon to put out a fire, there’s a chance they will not make it out alive?

      • Vance

        God bless our firefighters and police. They really do put their very lives on the line as your point says. I just was thinking that lunch breaks should be taken in comfort so that the body is re-energized for the rest of the day. Although maybe those guys in the pics chose to lunch like that. They are sitting with their fellow co-workers so maybe it is a social thing.

  • Mighty曹

    I couldn’t care less about the story but the series of photos showing squat eating cops is really annoying.

    • YourSupremeCommander

      It helps the digestive system to move shit along the pipeline… and do it in conjunction with a sqatting toilet afterwards.

  • ClausRasmussen

    The first photo somehow reminds me of this :-)


    • Amused

      Dunno, I think chicks might find these guys a bit higher on the cuteness scale.

    • Kai

      Ugh, at a glance, I thought it was a freaky furry giant spider or something.

  • lonetrey / Dan

    What a contrast from the photos of policemen I’m used to seeing in America!

    I know, these are just photos selected for this situation. But still an interesting way of seeing police people that I haven’t considered before.

  • jianfei

    they look like they are farming rice with a lazy ass!!

  • jianfei

    the chinese government attempts at softening its behaviour has become ridiculous…seriously… just stop attempting to be stupidly obviously stupid !!

  • KenjiAd

    I live in Wuhan. All I know is that, when I’m driving, I can pass a police car moving at a speed limit, and they don’t give a rats ass.

    • shitreligion

      At a speed limit and not OVER a speed limit, why would they care then?

  • Karze

    In 2010 Tibetan environmentalist Karma Samdup was sentenced to 15 year jail on trumped up charges as Karma’s brother busted the local Chinese Police hunted endangered Tibetan wild animal which was on protection list. Karma lived in Chamdo area near TAR and Sichuan border.

  • Dax

    My favorite police moment was watching two guys park their cop car in the middle of the street outside of a hotpot restaurant and then open the back doors for their “dates” (pretty clearly prostitutes) and wander up the restaurant’s stairs in such a way to imply they had at least a little baijiu in them already

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