From Mop:
What was troubling him?~ Why did he have to commit suicide? Life is precious. Please value your life.
Another thing, isn’t the television channel [Qilu Television Channel] too inhuman for doing this? Can we avoid broadcasting the scene of him jumping off the building just for ratings? Did we consider how the victim’s family would feel? Simply despicable.
This video was uploaded yesterday on Youku by Qilu Television Channel (I think from Shandong). 09/02/21 UPDATE: The video on Youku has been deleted. The above video is now the Zhejiang news broadcast mentioned below from Ku6.com.
On Sohu is a video from Ku6 of a Zhejiang news broadcast that also show the same scene.
Comments from Mop:
专治一切瘙痒:
After seeing this scene, I have begun to rethink my own suicide plan…
三十六度五2009:
And so, a life ends. Truly regrettable, what could not be solved that forced him to use this kind of method to end his own life.
子夜绅士:
When a person dies, everyone will say disgusting, KB, frightening. When an animal dies, people will say pitiful, innocent, cruel, etc…
雨遥oо:
All because of a little bit of money, sigh.
fxk5232307:
So sad, little guy, rest in peace.
老衲射了十环:
This piece of news should be investigated.
A young life cannot meaninglessly end like this.
妹妹你别跑啊:
Sigh~~he must have experienced a very big grievance to have done this ~ However, if you want to die, you should at least be like Yang Jia and kill a few to accompany you!
丰胸圣手:
Be reborn as a rich person!!! River crab [pun for "harmonious"] society!!!
天生的奸商:
The feeling must have been relatively great at that moment of jumping off the building, jumping with his head downwards so he will not accidentally survive and bring trouble to his family. His will to die was strong. Although, when deciding whether or not to go die, consider for a moment whether it would be even better to bring one or two pieces of rubbish [bad people] with you.
布拉格的麦田:
There was no body left, it all became sauce.
Doing this all because of some wages. Poverty, it can make people crazy.
If others do not give you your wages, you should vent your anger on your enemy, why kill yourself?
屋枫:
The filming is relatively talented, knew to change focal length when this person changed positions, very professional! I recommend the cameraman make a domestic blockbuster movie.
Pity the location is not so good.
There is a question. After the guy fell, there was a lot of red that appears to be orange color and appears to have been there already. The sound of the impact was delayed around a few milliseconds. The jumping was indeed real, but the splatter of blood was not revealed. If it was, it probably could not have been put up here.
The filming location is not so good. If you filmed from directly below, it would have had a better effect.
54dick:
Where is the ethics? Where is the social responsibility?
最强ＩＤ:
Did you also consider the family’s feelings when you posted the video letting even more people see it?
gs015:
It is fake, a harmonious society would not have this kind of thing!
16881689:
I was shocked when I watched this during the evening news broadcast…
The television channel should not have broadcast it out.
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Christ I wish I hadn’t watched that.
For the most part, I have absolutely no compassion for someone who tries to (or does) commit suicide. Only for those they leave behind. One less headcase in the population.
Broadcasting it….well, this is the world we live in today – but why blame the news, not the viewers who all tune in and stay tuned in? They are only pandering to what the people seem to want. Should the ‘despicable’ accusation be aimed at the TV station, the viewers, or both?
Yikes.
I think the “let’s rewind and review” part was unnecessary…
I remember when an American news channel was heavily criticized when they showed someone jumping off a freeway overpass. I think they apologized and said they weren’t quick enough to pan away (it was broadcast live).
I also remember some story about someone who broadcast his own suicide online as people watched and thought it was a hoax. Forgot where now but that video was taken down quickly too. I wonder if this kind of stuff would fly on YouTube. It doesn’t seem like Youku is shutting it down. Maybe its the news broadcast context. Shrug.
Anyway, pretty tragic. I think most of us have thought of suicide at one point or another, or had our brushes with possible death (I’ve had at least 2), but few of us have really stared death in the eyes like that. It’s hard to imagine what’s going on in that poor guy’s head, especially as he’s over the ledge and past the point of no return.
Pffff…this is nothing, you don’t even see the body just the sound. Al-Jazeera shows beheadings, now that is f**king hardcore.
Even in the U.S. there can be a certain stigma (albeit much less than in the past) about getting psychological help. I can only imagine that someone that sought that sort of help in China would be very poorly received. People contemplating suicide here often have no impartial, understanding professional to whom to turn.
Anyone have statistics on suicide prevention through therapy, hotlines, etc.?
Interesting, if you believe it’s due to a barrier in Chinese society from seeking psychological help how do account for the higher male suicide rate in the US?
Looks like the guys with the orange net were a little out of position.
I don’t think the TV station should be judged “morally” for reporting things as the way they are. But of course, there is a line between being true and being disturbing to the audience.
I find it very pervert to film and publicize this !
I guess finally this website lives up to it’s name: “China smack”
LoL, zing!
Actually, IIRC, there have been quite a few “death by jumping/falling off a building” posts here. Now that I think about it, it’s kinda morbid.
What bothers me is: how someone can record suicide and not to try to help? Is publicity more important than peoples life? It seems it is. Western media is full of shocking and graphic reportages, intentionally exaggerated.
Here, we had similar case. It is like movie: guy wanted to commit suicide. Reporters were taking pictures for weather report. They spotted the man on the fence of bridge. In that same moment, a beautiful girl, a model, passed by, and start to talk to him. They talked about half an hour. It was live on national. Finally, girl promised him to take him on coffee and he decide not to jump.
That year she got award for noble deed.
This guy looks young. I don’t think it is due to loss of job or whatever money-related problems when he had plenty of time to earn it. My guess is that he was unable to get over some failed love affair. I read somewhere that this kind of thing affects men more than women, even though men are said to be the stronger sex.
@kai
I know you are sitting there very straight, rubbing your eyes all over because you saw “smickno”. I am sure about it. You are a 人才出众. Treasure your life too. Don’t become a victim of your own powers of analysis. A simple man (like me) sees only one perspective, goes for it, and when he gets it, he is happy. When you see more than one perspective from the same thing presented before you, you set yourself up with insurmountable “To-dos＂while having neither the time nor resources to achieve/solve them all.
We cannot decide how all those silly people will manufacture all sorts of silly problems and plant them into our lives, but we can choose how we want to respond to them, eh. You can choose to get angry, be faced with what you called “suicidal thoughts/brushes with possible death”, while trying to right every wrong real life trolls will do to you, or you can choose to detach yourself from them a little, and tell yourself, it doesn’t matter. Everything matters. Nothing matters.
I really wish I were there to talk this guy out of it, not that I will surely succeed, but I would try.
The arrogance of assuming your words would do good more than bad is astounding. The idea of “I can relate, I can understand, I can give you meaning in life” – uh huh…if this guy really wanted to kill himself, he should kill himself – now or later – someone with so much mental instability will probably cause so many other problems for other people through his mental breakdowns that, in my opinion, you’re not necessarily doing the world a favor by trying to be a hero to someone who may not deserve it. Does everyone deserve ‘it’? Should nobody die?
I’ll be the first to say that I would not help this person. Perhaps a word of encouragement – “Think carefully about the result of what you’re doing.” That’s it. Actually, that too would probably do nothing – as someone in that state of mind can hardly think clearly. Fuck ‘em, good riddance.
Interesting juxtaposition between the golden rule and, uh, utilitarianism there, Rick.
Yeesh, that was quite methodical and clearly considered-right on the head.
“There was no body left, it all became sauce.”:
Or more accurately: Street Pizza.
Commiserations, poor guy.
reminds me of the women drowned in her car as it slowly sinked into the sea.
apathy, cancer of this society.
I am fucking mad.
@omg
You’re right: http://www.who.int/mental_health/prevention/suicide_rates/en/index.html
Now that I look at this actually, I’m struck by the fact that China is the only country in which female suicide is more common than male suicide.
That reminds me of something a female Chinese friend told me when I asked her why women traditionally don’t drink alcohol: because women are expected to take care of the house and the family and can’t afford to lose themselves in drinking. The extreme dual pressures of domestic responsibility and modern reality of work outside the home probably paint a bleaker picture for Chinese women than some other nationalities (<——– my inexpert opinion)
Peteryang,
Apathy? Didn’t you hear people in the background trying to persuade him to not jump? This is the ONLY helpful thing that anyone could have done in this situation.
As for the woman who drowned in the sea. His own family (father and teenage son) did not help her. I guess they were apathetic too…
Yes Peter,
In the world of dungeons and dragons we too have wuxia powers and cameras that can mystically levitate humans.
in the moment the chinese guy is falling, 100 more chinese kids where born
@rick
you are pathetic. you know how many people try to kill themselves over stupid little issues. you do know that many great inventors and artists have bi-polar disorder and suffer from deep bouts of depression. say a man who was about to find the cure for cancer decided to kill himself…
even if this man thinks his is pointless, someone should be there to at least try and stop him.
@Matt
You are pathetic. You know how many people should kill themselves over big major issues before they push those big major issues onto other people driving THEM to kill themselves? Say a man who is about to kill his wife and children for cheating on him because he can’t stand the epic failure life has ‘dealt’ to him ends up shooting himself in the face before he does…..
Blow me, you don’t know the situation, you omniscient fraud. Do you know how many great inventors and artists have been killed by people with bi-polar disorders and suffer from deep bouts of depression who have been talked off of bridges, and lash out at society with negativity and hate?
Tie a noose and grab a chair son, it’ll make the world a better place.
LoL, no comment on the substance but I liked the fire with which that was written. It flowed very well.
Too many people in China anyway.
He was probably fucking miserable, it’s his life to take.
What’s with everyone pitying the loss of life? Life sucks. Life is pain. If your life is 90% pain what is the point? Life is not precious unless it is worth living.
Well…my friends… life is worth living if we work hard to make it so! We also need each other, from time to time, to get over life´s troubled waters. An act of despair is understandable but nevertheless it remains something tragic and a loss for all.
@ Rick
Okie, got it. Next time ’somebody’ has the third brush with death, I shall gladly cheer him on. The world will be a better place with less mental pollution. When are you going to do it?
@smickno
I didn’t say cheer him on, idiot. I said you’re not in a position to claim knowledge or understanding of other people’s plight. It’s one thing to REFUSE TO HELP someone, and it’s another to CHEER THEM IN SUICIDE. Clearly you’re not very bright, so I’ll stop there.
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Feeling sympathy for those who hold no value for life is, in my opinion, wasted sympathy. I feel sympathy for those who WANT to live, but are having it RIPPED AWAY from them due to circumstances or situations out of their control. I save my sympathy for those people, as do I save my help for people who are reaching out for help – not the ones who refuse it, clam up, cry themselves to suicidal tendency over problems thousands of others deal with daily, and overall show weak character and NO compassion for others, including ones who love/depend/worry about them. I’ll repeat, fuck ‘em.
I should fix that, when I wrote “REFUSE TO HELP” I meant “NOT HELPING someone who refuses it and instead, pities themselves”
What’s the deal with the firefighters? They were just standing there with their net in the wrong place, kinda seems on purpose doesn’t it. I think if they wanted to catch the poor dude, they could have. Bizarre. I feel bad for watching this, but I can’t help it.. I feel sorry for the poor guy, I wonder if he’d ever thought of just running off somewhere real far away and see if life might not deal him a new hand…
@ Rick
You mentioned that we are not in a position to claim knowledge or understanding of other people’s plight, and in the same breath went on to rant and rant that you shan’t waste your sympathy for people who refuse it, clam up, cry themselves to suicidal tendency. Do you know this young man’s plight and do you know if he had refused sympathy, dude? Otherwise, you are being over-simplistic.
@Smickno
Perhaps my words weren’t clear – I tried to fix it afterwards. People in the crowd tried to yell up to help him, what’s wrong, don’t jump, think about it – shit like that, yada yada. My point is – he didn’t want help. He refused gestures. These become wasted gestures. How much effort should strangers put into helping strangers who apparently do not want help? I don’t think any. If I reach out my hand to someone in need, and they slap it away, fuck them. I will feel absolutely no sympathy for their resulting action. If you don’t value your own life, how can you possibly expect others to value it on your behalf – everyone has problems to deal with, everyone has good and bad days, THRUSTING your issues into the public and expecting everyone to bend over backwards to help you is a ludicrous cry for attention.
I don’t see the relationship you’re making between not being in a position to claim understanding/knowledge of a strangers plight vs. having no sympathy for someone who refuses help from strangers.
In all fairness Rick, I don’t think you can say he “thrust his issues into public”. Did he invite the camera crew down there to film him jumping off the building? Most people who thrust their suicide attempts into public do so because they don’t actually want to do it, and they’re waiting for someone to stop them. Looks like this guy wanted to do it, but got nervous when approaching the edge. Things like “What if I don’t die, but am only crippled?” etc were probably going through his mind.
I still feel sympathy for him. Sympathy that for whatever reason he wasn’t able to deal with whatever things are happening to him, things that most people can accept; I feel sympathy for his weak character and inability to cope with life. No one deserves to die like this.
Just to be clear – I don’t condone suicide, but that doesn’t mean I can’t feel some sympathy (a very human emotion) when watching someone off himself.
Jumpers are thrusting their issues into public, Teacher. How long do you think he stayed up there? They had enough time to assemble news, police, etc…and they aren’t exactly ultra-fast to respond here from my experiences. People who want to kill themselves without thrusting their issues in a public place choose another method of suicide – not jumping from a public place in the daytime, while taking so long to ‘finalize’ the decision.
I understand why you feel sympathy for his lack of character or ability to cope. I shouldn’t say I feel no sympathy exclusively, perhaps it is more-so overshadowed by disgust in his selfishness and lack of respect or appreciation for the value of life.
I see your point Rick. However, again, since we don’t know this guy I don’t think we can make those assumptions. If he has almost completely lost his mind, who knows what reason he has for choosing to jump off a building? Maybe he has a small part of him that thinks on the way down God will grant him the ability to fly or something. Ridiculous example, I know – I’m just saying, trying to rationalize or condemn anyone in this situation is fruitless.
There’s nothing valuable than life. I cannot imagine what would be the reason to end a life. Suicide is act of cowardliness. It is not solution of the problem. Today is very popular among (formerly)rich people, that lost lot of money this days, to commit suicide. I’m not sure that’s a good way of improving financial situation of their kids.
On other hand, I read that men and women commits suicides for different reasons. Men usually do that when they feel’s like failure, without support from family. Women doesn’t wants to commit suicide. It is last cry for help. They want attention.
Maybe this poor guy just wanted to frighten his boss, not kill himself.
I would do anything I can to prevent people of commiting suicide. Still in shock that nobody helped him. Firefighters should put air pillow under him.
(Sigh!)
People die all the time. For people who take their own life,
if there is life after death, I wonder if they do go to heaven because they cut their life short. Would they get a rebirth like those who die for their country or for a just cause.
@ Rick
Let’s retrace. I merely said I wished I were there to talk this guy out of it, and lo and behold, you posted your awesome lecture on how to deal with such cases by saying:
“The arrogance of assuming your words would do good more than bad is astounding. The idea of “I can relate, I can understand, I can give you meaning in life” – uh huh…………”
I think I feel exonerated after seeing that I am not alone in at least wanting to help, and if you read again what I wrote, I did acknowledge that my effort to help might be in vain. But if I come face to face with 100 people wanting to kill themselves, and if I will succeed in only talking one such fellow out it, I will still try and help.
And while you went on to say that I am not very bright, it is amusing that you couldn’t even grasp the relationship between not being in a position to claim knowledge or understanding in other people’s plight vs. having no sympathy for someone who refuses help。我懒得跟你解释。你不明白就算了。
@krdr
Be careful. Rick might get on you for saying that you would do anything to prevent people from committing suicide. I agree with you that men and women commit suicides for different reasons (generally). But I don’t think that his young man did it because of financial reasons as you seem to go on to suggest when you wrote “frighten his boss”. Are you saying he was trying to scare his boss because he wasn’t paid his wages? Or his boss ticked him off unfairly? I doubt if that is enough of a reason for him to even want to kill himself.
The way I see it, he was young and if money was what he needed, he probably knew he had plenty of time to earn it. It’s not as if he was in his sixties, retired, and had lost all his savings through some stock/property market crash. Of course, there is a possibility that he was a compulsive, big time and not very successful gambler, and his net worth was seriously negative and so he chose this path. But on the balance of probabilities, I still think it is to do with some failed relationship, but that’s only my guess.
I disagree with your statement that suicide is an act of cowardice. When a person’s sense of rational judgment is so diminished, being brave or cowardly is never even considered. This state of mind is characterized by factors like a prolonged state of severe depression and/or a deep sense of low self esteem and self worth. And where he was, he might not have access to professional help. At that time, this young man probably only understood one thing: ending his life would end whatever was troubling him. He might have, for example, lost someone near and dear to him. No amount of shouting by any number of people to tell him to not jump is going to let him see the light of day. Can their yelling out to him to not jump bring back whoever was near and dear to him? Well, in his mind, no, never. It is not, as Rick so simplistically said, that he refused help and so he didn’t deserve any sympathy.
How we react to similar situations is determined in our formative years by our external environment, although a case may also be had for genetic pre-disposition. Did this young man have a choice to be born in a place where professional help is readily available? Did he have a choice over the people in his life, who would shape him to be what he was, which led him to process his thoughts the way he did, including thinking that suicide was the answer to whatever problem he had? This tragedy might, and I underline “might”, have been prevented, if he had a different external environment. And assuming that he foolishly did it to spite whoever said NO to him, I think he would have acted differently IF he were a different person. But he was what he was, neither a hero nor a coward, just a product of his external environment.
Well, sometimes a little reverse psychology may help, and cheering the suicide victim on, taunting him, defying him, scolding him might well turn him into not a victim.
@smickno
I disagree with your statement that suicide is an act of cowardice. When a person’s sense of rational judgment is so diminished, being brave or cowardly is never even considered.
I will take that in account. But, we must be aware that suicide can not solve any problem, and, this poor guy just brought more problems to his family.
How we react to similar situations is determined in our formative years by our external environment, although a case may also be had for genetic pre-disposition.
Of course, but we cannot blame environment and genetics for our deeds as we have a “free will”. This argument can be used to defend serial killers: “He was molested as child, so he’s not guilty for killing”.
I knew for cases where people were successfully talked out from jumping. If the other person really wants to convince suicide not to kill himself, he will do that. Problem is here that no one really wanted to help, but just watched.
Well said Smickno, I agree.
Reflection on society that is new to money and regards money as the only measure of success. No money, no respect, no possibility, way out!
Is there a country anywhere in the world which people do not love money? The love of money is a universal folly of all mankind. China is not an exception but a rule.
China’s Social System is killing it’s own children. Aren’t we gruesome. Who’s bloody next?
In absolute numbers, sure, China has a lot of stories to tell But if we look at the statistics, China does not have the highest suicide rate and is quite on par with most other countries.
I think attributing money to suicide is ignoring the fundamental reasons underlying suicidal tendencies. Wealth is not inversely proportional to suicide rates.
On the contrary, a country like Japan, which is richer than almost all the European nations, has one of the world’s highest suicide rates.
Aside from failed relationships, pressure in school and at work can also contribute to mental/nervous breakdowns leading to suicide. Anybody who has been through the Japanese way of life and understand the price they paid to be what they are will know this.
@krdr
I full agree with you when you said that suicide isn’t going to solve anything and will bring more problems to his family. I assume that what you meant by more problems is that his loved ones will be terribly sad, and usually, they would go on a road of self-blame, like, if only we had done this, if only we had not said that, if only ….the list goes on. But the fact remains that the suicide victim wasn’t thinking rationally. If he could think about how his family would suffer, then he was rational and wouldn’t do it in the first place.
As for serial killers, if they break the law, they are guilty as far as the law is concerned. Even the act of suicide is murder and the suicide victim has broken the law by killing someone (himself), although I am not sure if this is the case under Chinese law. Nevertheless, for both serial killers and suicide victims, I would use the reasons of external enovironmental conditioning and genetics to explain why people behave in the way they do. This is not to say that they are not wrong to commit such acts, but rather it helps at least me to understand their actions and to be a little more sympathetic. This is the approach which counsellors adopt when trying to help people with suicidal tendencies, and in the other case, when rehabilitating “criminals”
And yes, people have been talked out of committing suicides before…provided whoever talked the would-be suicide victim out of it is a trained professional, or he somehow said the right thing. But as I said, no amount of yelling by any number of people to simply tell him to not jump will make his see the light of day. You’ve got to say something which must make sense to him. I find it hard to agree with your statement that “Problem is here that no one really wanted to help, but just watched.” I think that they simply did not know how to help and what to do, other than yelling. But they meant well anyway.
And yes, you are right. Some people had been talked out of jumping before and that is why I said if I were there, I would surely try to talk him out of it. I am not sure if I will press the right buttons, but I will try.
If you look at someone as though they are like yourself and judge their actions through that then you get the whole “Everyone has problems, it will be okay, life can get better”. If you are saying that it doesn’t matter, it was his choice and its no loss than i have a hard time believing you are empathizing with the man. The first way might help the man and it would be the best thing you could do in that situation and it would be the best thing to do before that situation so how it is not the right way to look at after the situation?
With such heavy censorship in China it makes sense for the government to show shocking scenes such as this just to take the edge off everything else that is going wrong. There were rumours about corruption within the local government but now everybody is talking about this, I love it when a plan comes together.
Poor bugger he did nt plan this.
Anyone who claims suicide victims are actually “murderers” and have “broken the law” from killing themselves, are worthless and don’t belong alive. Goddamn but I hate you twisted pricks.
Put out enough slop the swine come running..
Only a swineherder would post this news without regard
that the poor soul’s family could be watching..They should be fined heavily and their license pulled if they commit such a perfidy against societal values again..To Hell with them!
adamdbach@yahoo.com
omg….head first. That must have hurt bad.