Laoganma Chili Sauce Founder Awarded 8888 License Plate by Govt

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Laoganma founder Tao Huabi, often regarded as the godmother of chili sauce in China, was able to build a business empire despite being illiterate and doing so without putting out significant advertising. Laoganma Chili Sauce have since became the mainstay in every Chinese kitchen and established itself as a global brand. For her contributions, the government recently awarded her with A8888 license plates for her Rolls-Royce and other luxury cars.

From NetEase:

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“Laoganma” Awarded By the Nation With 4 Number Sequential License Plate

For many Chinese, laoganma is a legend, I think 80-90% of all readers have had Laoganma Chili Sauce once. Laoganma’s founder Tao Huabi was never educated, and does not even know how to write her name. But in 1989, she started with nothing and created a nationally recognized brand, paying 1.8 billion in taxes over 3 years and with total assets worth 6.8 billion, directly bringing wealth to 8 million farmers. Because of this, the government awarded Langanma with 4 number sequential license plates. At the same time, the growth of her business brought her brand new rides, Laoganma currently owns the top international luxury brand Rolls-Royce Ghost worth up to 5 million yuan.

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Laoganma’s former luxury ride with AA6666 plate was awarded by the government, Laoganma Tao Huabi paid 1.8 billion in taxes and have a net worth of 6.8 billion, directly bringing wealth to 8 million farmers.

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Laoganma’s ride a 2006 BMW 745li, such a niu AA8888 plate was also awarded by the government.

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Laoganma’s ride a Rolls-Royce Ghost.

Comments on NetEase:

幽默走天下 [网易广东省广州市网友]:

I support this! It is better than giving it to special privilege cars!

节操余额已不足 [网易重庆市网友]:

She’s the only person the whole country can call hot mom.

f6952aca155e5fded96ae93f [网易美国手机网友]:

Respect! But license plates are public resources, why can the government control the good numbers, and use it for certain purposes? What are they trying to encourage? What ills does this bring?

gycy3831146 [网易广东省网友]:

Laoganma’s contributions are undeniable, but government promoting superstition is illegal, the so-called 8888 numbers are all superstitious. What era do we live in?

网易日本手机网友:

Goddess among diaosi, legend among Chinese people.

网易广东省深圳市手机网友:

An ordinary person who got rich through hard work, she should be respected and encouraged!

艾澤 [网易山东省青岛市手机网友]:

Laoganma never put out advertising, the taste is already in people’s hearts.

ai三民 [网易湖北省武汉市网友]:

They all say Chinese people are poor and hate the rich, but when they mention Ma Yun [richest man in China, founder of Alibaba] and Tao Bihua, how come no one resent their wealth? So the proposition that Chinese people hate the rich is false, Chinese people hate injustice, and unfairness. When you became rich out of your own ability, people will only respect you!

网易北京市网友:

Laoganma earned her money with blood and sweat, no matter how much she flaunt her wealth we will not be jealous.

黄易资深临时工 [网易浙江省杭州市萧山区网友]:

Laoganma taste great, please not let it have anything to do with gutter oil.

网易天津市手机网友 :

This old grandma is a businesswoman with a conscience, didn’t go public to amass a fortune because she didn’t need money. Compared to her, those businessmen who go public when they have money are all frauds.

网易福建省手机网友:

I heard Laoganma didn’t go public, so that their products are not expensive, to let people eat cheap Laoganma. A business with a conscience will never fall.

午夜快巴 [网易广东省珠海市手机网友]:

This boss is better than 100 real estate bosses!

9f3cf2b913907e35f42c6154 [网易湖南省益阳市手机网友]:

The government finally did something ostentatious that was not met with scolding.

179880113 [网易北京市手机网友]:

Well deserved, China’s international brand.

网易浙江省舟山市手机网友:

Government awards? Why does this feel like North Korea.

studyzy [网易美国手机网友]:

A must have in the kitchen.

1a3d0c6f153053d4b33d7afc [网易湖南省手机网友]:

Now this is a real Chinese auntie.

网易加拿大手机网友:

Studying abroad, Laoganma and bread was my emergency food during test week, Laoganma with ramen and eggs can sustain me for a whole week, support Laoganma! Truly to get rich first then make others rich! Benefiting the peasants!

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Written by Joe

Joe is a documentary producer and journalist based in Shanghai

  • Kevin

    I see that picture of Laoganma and I say to myself, “Now there’s someone who has definitely orchestrated a murder.”

    • must touch brain

      Indeed. How many animals were killed to make that outfit? She’s a disgrace to China’s deplorable animal rights reputation. I’ll be sure never to buy anything with her face on it. That’s often what happens when uneducated folks strike it rich… they feel the need to plaster their off-putting faces on everything and show off in true tuhao fashion.

      • Zappa Frank

        it’s not just for fur coat that animals are killed. Don’t you have anything made of leather? what’s the difference?

        • Jahar

          We eat the cow.

          • must touch brain

            Ok but why?

          • Jahar

            Why do we eat the cow? for sustenance. Eat those rats and I’ll shut up.

          • must touch brain

            But there is no need to kill and eat them. I’ve gone 42 years without ever having done that and believe me, it’s a bigger sacrifice for the animals than for us to put off eating them. In fact, you’ll likely be glad you did.

          • JayJay

            In these 42 years, have you enjoyed tennis as the racket strings are made from cow guts? Or listened to music where string instruments made from cat guts? Or took medicine where animals died during experiments? Or ask the Inuit people to stop killing seals and change their way of life? Since synthetic insulin was only available to the public in the 80s, have you or your loved ones with diabetes ever used insulin made from animals, mind you quite a few animals die in the process of synthesising human insulin? If you have pets, such as dog or a cat, do you feel the same way knowing other animals died making cat/dog food, just so people can have companions?

            So why killing animals for food is bad in your opinion, not for other other pleasures of human life (save for the last example, where certain diabetics without insulin will die, so they kill out of necessity)

          • must touch brain

            Good point. So the question is should we just kill animals randomly whenever we feel like it of out of necessity?

          • mr.wiener

            You don’t kill something “randomly” when it is out of “necessity”.
            That said. I think they should make it compulsory for school kids to be taken on tours of slaughterhouses, or at least farms. You should know where your food comes from.

          • must touch brain

            I agree. My school did that and we were so traumatized, we didn’t want to think about eating meat.

          • Surfeit

            My food comes from mothers teet. Mmmmmm… BITTY!

          • Jahar

            Nope, definitely won’t. I don’t think I’ve ever heard a reason that would make me even consider it. I don’t care if animals die. It’s what they do. I just see no need to waste.

          • must touch brain

            Then it seems you don’t have much compassion for animals but only yourself. The lives that are wasted are those of the animals that are bred in horrible conditions only to be butchered for selfish human consumption. That is truly a waste when you consider they have as much right to live as we do. They are not ours to kill and eat.

          • Jahar

            I think they should be treated better yes, but in nature they are also killed and eaten. I don’t see why we don’t have a right to do the same.

          • must touch brain

            Because we know better and we don’t have to.

          • Jahar

            we “know better” than to eat meat? I don’t see what’s wrong with it.

          • must touch brain

            Well, some of us do. You must admit that a life is a life and when an animal is killed, a life is taken. Most people can feel there is something wrong with killing another animal. It’s easy for most people to buy meat without a face on it in the supermarket or in a restaurant but imagine how many people would eat meat if they had to kill the animals themselves. The truth is, we don’t have to kill them to survive and the world would be a better place.

          • Jahar

            Well, I’m personally happy we take the life of animals and consume their flesh. Doing so makes the world a better place.

          • must touch brain

            I guess you have issues and really hate animals. I hope you might open your mind one day.

          • Jahar

            Nah, I love animals. I hope someday you can open your mind to the gift nature has given us.

          • must touch brain

            Really? In what way? Nature doesn’t serve us unless you believe in some old book that claims man is the center of the universe. I can’t blame you for being brainwashed. I know what that’s like but i got over it and so can you.

          • Jahar

            I didn’t say nature serves us. I said food is a gift from nature. I can’t blame you for being brainwashed either. I still don’t see what you think is so bad about eating animals.

          • must touch brain

            I still don’t see why you think animals are just food. I can accept that type of mentality from Chinese as they’ve been held back for a long time but i don’t think you are Chinese.

          • Alex Dương

            Most Westerners aren’t vegetarians AFAIK.

          • must touch brain

            I realize that but times are changing and civilization is slowly evolving whether it wants to or not. It may one day be a question of conserving certain natural resources and cutting back on waste or unnecessary pollution.

          • Jahar

            I don’t believe they are just food. I believe the should be treated to a certain standard. I believe if we raise them to be our companions we should treat them as such. But I also believe that they are a step below us, and I don’t mind them being raised for food.

          • must touch brain

            Fair enough. Many of us would like to see all animals treated equally as it seems unfair that some a treated like family while others are abused and butchered when there is really no need for it.

          • JayJay

            Animal welfare is a luxury in countries that are less developed in economic terms. As people in China get richer, the population as a whole will become more sophisticated. Bull baiting was widely practised in Victorian England. But human relations with animals will not change too much in your life time and you have to be realistic with your campaign on animal welfare. As the head-on approach will only enrage the average Chinese, especially coming from a foreigner.

            Yes, animals are treated better in the West than in China, but don’t think the Chinese will change over night. But things are changing, gradually. There has been, over recent years, a increase of pet ownership in China and you see more and more pressure groups standing up against dog meat trade, cat meat trade and wild animals etc.

          • must touch brain

            Which is very good news.

        • must touch brain

          Actually, there is a difference. Most leather is a bi-product of the meat industry where as fur comes mostly from animals that are only raised for their fur and not their meat. The very idea of wearing fur is seen as one of the most arrogant displays of wealth throughout the world because of it’s brutality combined with it’s supposed status. Many of us would like to think we have transcended the dark ages of barbarianism, but unfortunately, these murderous acts by the world’s uneducated exposes the depths humans will go to keep themselves bound to being merely parasites upon the earth.

          • Zappa Frank

            but since we can survive also without meat what is the difference? I mean, we still kill for pleasure of products not for a life and death situation like it may have been before..
            don’t get me wrong I agree with your position about brutality, and unnecessary killing animals, but what I mean is that at the end of the day I feel as guilty as the lady in the picture.

          • must touch brain

            We don’t have to feel guilty if we know what we are doing is the right thing.

          • David

            LMAO I have never met an animal rights activist who is for leather but thinks fur is horrible. Also, many people much more educated than you wear fur, to say it is just dumb people is hubris on your part.

          • must touch brain

            Who said i was for leather? You really think that educated people wear fur? Perhaps you need to visit a slaughterhouse so you can catch up.

          • David

            I have been to several slaughter houses for beef and pork, I have no problem with eating meat or wearing fur (although I don’t think men look particularly good in fur, better for women). How incredibly myopic are you that you think only dumb people could disagree with you? Do you really think ANYBODY on the planet does not know where fur comes from? Do you think there are a lot of rich stupid people out there who think fur grows on trees?

          • must touch brain

            I’m so tired of making excuses for others’ shortcomings but it seems as if you feed off of this. What is your problem? Do you feel guilty?

      • David

        Or they just think owning a fur coat is both legal and moral. They have a different opinion than you is all. Looking at her age and knowing she only started the business in 1989 (when she was already older), she probably spent most of her life with very little to show, so having a beautiful fur feels well earned to her.

        • must touch brain

          Just like all the ignorant but rich tuhao without any concern for others. A truly educated man or woman is a modest one, not a showoff.

          • David

            There is no connection whatsoever between modesty and education. How old are you? You sound like a college freshman who just joined a cause. Seriously, are you trying to appeal to emotion? Is that why you show those pictures? If you want to make a point about fur being cruel or something just do it and use some logic. Making comments like this do not advance your point.

          • must touch brain

            I’m starting to think there is nothing i can say or do that will not offend you. You’re also so quick to judge me unfairly and that usually means someone is unhappy with their own life. What would you have me say, oh wise one? As for the pictures, well as you know, some people can’t read or don’t want to and you can’t deny that a picture is worth a thousand words. I sense that they offend you and i’m sorry but the real world can be horrific, especially for animals and the sooner people realize that the better.

          • tomoe723

            People and all of nature already realize that. It’s what you call the food chain.. or “circle of life” if you want to call it that way. We kill animals for food and luxury, animals kill other animals/plants for food, they don’t really need luxury because they don’t have a concept for it yet? Or maybe I’m wrong and somewhere out there certain populations of animals do kill for luxury as well. And we all get eaten by bacteria and microbes when we die too. Simbaaaaaa!! Circle of life!

          • must touch brain

            I think you watched the Lion King a few too many times and that isn’t real life. Animals have as much right to live as we do. How can you not see that? By ignoring reality? Here is your “circle of life”…

          • tomoe723

            Haha.. that is life dear. If you can’t accept it then go back to your mommy and keep sucking her titties. Animals have what rights now? I’ll tell you something about reality and rights. Our right to live as humans is just a fantasy idea cooked up by the most powerful just so they can justify their own lives. And animal rights is also another fantasy idea by those who think that having such purpose in life makes them feel important about themselves. You feel important about yourself by fighting for animal rights? Maybe you should preach to a bunch of lions about to gang up on an elephant/zebra about their rights? Or preach to a female rabbit that eating her own young is bad and evil!

          • must touch brain

            That was uncalled for. Judging from your comment, you are a very rude and common individual.

          • Surfeit

            Some animals kill for fun. I think we could consider that a luxury.

      • Xia

        So what? Probably all these animals become delicious Chinese dishes afterwards.

        • must touch brain

          Because to most Chinese, they only care about stuffing their faces. It is perhaps one of the most selfish cultures in the world. “me first! me, me, me…” Any chef in China could take a shit, cook it and most people would find it delicious but would you want to eat it?

          • Xia

            At least 1,3 billion people would eat it, that’s 1/5 of the world population. Got a problem with 20% of all living people in the world?

          • must touch brain

            Obviously. So i’m just trying to do what i can to ease the suffering of all animals. Is that ok?

          • Xia

            How about you persuade some lions to become vegetarians first?

          • must touch brain

            So you have the same instincts as a lion? Are you not able to reason?

    • Hey, you just gave away the sauce’s secret ingredient!!
      Ancient Chinese Secret, as the saying goes

  • Great comment from above…

    “They all say Chinese people are poor and hate the rich, but when they mention Ma Yun [richest man in China, founder of Alibaba] and Tao Bihua, how come no one resent their wealth? So the proposition that Chinese people hate the rich is false, Chinese people hate injustice, and unfairness. When you became rich out of your own ability, people will only respect you!”

    • Irvin

      People don’t really “respect” the rich, they just like to be reminded that people of similar background and struggles like their own can get rich which in turn give them hope that maybe someday they can make it too.

      However when they’re old and hopelessly locked in to a dead end job, they’ll come to hate all rich people even the ones like Jack Ma and the old lady in the article.

      • David

        I am not sure if this is just what you were taught or if it is how you feel. I can honestly say (and I can’t believe I am alone) that I have a lot of respect for people who build up businesses and become rich. Along the way they are employing many other people and helping them make a living and they pay lots of taxes which keep the government going and doing the essential (and non-essential) things they should be doing. Now, that being said I am sure you are right there are plenty who still dislike the rich even if they have earned what they have. But simply envying a person for having things you don’t is not only silly, it is not productive. It does not get you out of your dead end job (you is being used as a general tern, not necessarily directed at you personally)..

        • Jahar

          A lot of people cheat and lie their way to success. You respect them too?

        • Irvin

          And that precisely was my point, most humans are envious and jealous beings. Not being silly and unproductive is logical, yet, the number one drug in america is the very thing that makes people silly and unproductive. But it generates 13billion in tax in 2 years, and only in 2 states.

          • I suspect Alcohol is the #1 drug in the States and what a history it has had over the years!

      • Free Man

        I don’t respect rich. I respect hard working people and I admire hard working people who get successful. And thats how I understand the last sentence of the chinese comment.

        When you are old and stuck in a fucked up situation, you will start to hate anything. Especially those being worlds more successful in life than you.

      • Sure, it may be normal to be a little envious, but instead of wishing them ill will, perhaps it would be better to use it as inspiration to do their own thing instead. “If they can do it, so can I”
        Short sidebar…A friend of mine in China had a very good friend who made a LOT of money selling clothes online. Instead of being excited for her, she was upset and taking it out on me…Long story short, she was envious of her friend’s success.
        I have noticed women can be catty with each other. I think most men would be happy for a very good friend who is doing well. I am not Chinese, so I cannot say if Chinese would think differently or not.

    • must touch brain

      I still can’t understand why anyone respects this bitch.

      • Alex Dương

        She doesn’t share your views on animal rights, but that doesn’t change that the sauce is legit.

        • must touch brain

          Obviously she doesn’t and at the same time, she’s not getting any of my money or anyone else’s who has any compassion for animals.

          • Free Man

            That can’t be that many people, judging from her success.

          • must touch brain

            Because China is a nation full of selfish, greedy, uneducated followers. If they had any clue, they would think before they eat, smoke, spit, litter and drive.

          • Free Man

            Yeah and you are perfect and we should all learn from you, since your way is the only right one and everyone else is “selfish, greedy, uneducated” and of course: wrong.

          • must touch brain

            I didn’t say everyone else. I said that China is full of such people. Do you disagree? If i am here not to learn and teach, then why am i here?

          • Free Man

            I disagree on you doing anything like teaching or learning. It’s more like judging about right and wrong. I don’t need anyone to tell me about rights and wrongs, I can decide that for myself. Maybe people like you don’t consider me fit to make such a decision, but luckily people like you are not in charge. Maybe most people in China are like you described, I am not arguing that (hell, usually I am the first to make fun of China). What I do is laughing about one retard insulting another retard.

          • Probotector

            “Maybe most people in China are like you described, I am not arguing that (hell, usually I am the first to make fun of China).”

            So what’s your problem with his comment:

            “Because China is a nation full of selfish, greedy, uneducated followers. If they had any clue, they would think before they eat, smoke, spit, litter and drive.”

            …to which you replied:

            “Yeah and you are perfect and we should all learn from you, since your way is the only right one and everyone else is “selfish, greedy, uneducated” and of course: wrong”?

            First of all, what’s with the self-righteousness? You sound like a liberal hipster whose pissed because an American dared insult a ‘lesser’ nation. You gonna call him a racist next?! Jeez.

            Then you back pedal and say “most people in China are like you described” after sarcastically belittling his comment. So which is it? Do you agree or disagree?

            All he did was voice an opinion about society here. He’s not trying to claim moral superiority, though it seems you are.

          • Free Man

            “First of all, what’s with the self-righteousness?”

            Hello? Did you follow the conversation? Who is self righteous about animals, fur, and coats? Who considers himself superior to others? Who thinks to now all the shit about right and wrong?

            “You sound like a liberal hipster ..”

            Yeah, I am liberal, I dislike the idea of others telling me what to do, same as I don’t tell others what to do unless being asked first.

            “… an American …”

            I spend zero time on the nationality of people. It doesn’t matter where you from, I will still have and share my opinion.

            “You gonna call him a racist next?! Jeez.”

            No, next I actually wanted to call him/her a radical, not racist (I dislike radicals as much as racists, btw). Jeez.

            “Then you back pedal …”

            I never pedal back on anything, I forgot how to after my time in China. If you try reading again really hard, you might understand, that I have no problem with “must touch brain” insulting chinese. Later I tried to clarify that even more by the sentence you’ve commented. I actually have no problem at all. I am having fun here.

            “All he did was voice an opinion about society here. He’s not trying to claim moral superiority, though it seems you are.”

            All I did was voice MY opinion about “must miss brain”. I am not claiming moral superiority, though I strongly object to you saying, “must miss brain” is not doing so. Thats actually what I am making fun of. Let me quote myself: “What I do is laughing about one retard insulting another retard.” Actually thats exactly why I come back to this website. To laugh about idiots making fun of other idiots. But I can also live with being one of them.

            And what’s your problem? You don’t like animal lovers being attacked? You don’t like fur coat wearing people being supported. You don’t like people telling people they have different opinions? You don’t like someone making fun of someone insulting an entire nation? You like the avatar?

          • must touch brain

            Seems i opened up another can of worms but i just can’t eat. I don’t have that much time.

          • must touch brain

            Every one thinks they don’t need anyone to tell them right from wrong but if we didn’t have teachers, what kind of world would this be? Don’t you care about your world? I can assure you, it’s the only physical one you’ll ever have. If you want to laugh about retards insulting one another, head on over to Shanghaiist and discover the world of Banlas.

          • JayJay

            Dude, there is so much hatred from you against the Chinese. You are not racist, are you? There is a lot of stereotyping in your statement. Not all Chinese people are greedy, selfish, uneducated… actually, Chinese pupils usually tops the league table in PISA score…. certainly not all Chinese people spit, litter and drive like crazy (there is the common stereotyping of Asians can’t drive… lol)

            If you have been to India, you probably will have prejudice against the Indians…

            It sounds all very self-righteous of you…

          • must touch brain

            Honestly, i’m trying very hard not to be a racist but it can be so difficult when you spend your days off from teaching in a school and try to teach environmental awareness on the streets of Qingdao alone. There is so much rubbish and ignorance about social responsibility. I get so frustrated that i often feel like giving up and going home but that’s what most people would do and i don’t want to give up on China. I want to make it a better place for everyone. They just need more time and education. So does India but at least their food is so much better. I used to try to avoid stereotyping until i found out that it can be used to shame others and bring more awareness to issues that many find serious. It’s also fun. Sorry if you find me self-righteous but i assure you that i’m not.

          • JayJay

            I get your argument. If you stereotype, you can encourage other Chinese and bring awareness. But at the same time, you have lowered yourself to the ranks of right wing personalities, which will make your argument less convincing to us, in the West and to the Chinese, you are just another irritating foreigner telling them what to do.

            I suggest you approach it on a different perspective rather than outright condemnation. Teach about the history of animal welfare in the West. How people have moved away from bull-baiting, battery cages to where we are now. Teach about the value and contribution of animals to the human race and how we should treat them with respect.

          • must touch brain

            Ok. How is this approach? Is it good enough?

          • JayJay

            Is that you??

            I applaud you, or whoever this is, for doing it. From the caption, it shows that the media is on your (or the laowai’s) side. I definitely only endorse this type of actions over outright finger pointing.

            I get why some Chinese people feel pushed around when the West says it should do more about environmental protection. The example of CO2 emissions, in fact, per capita, the average Chinese counts for 1/3 of a person in the US. Should China do more about the environment? Sure, it should, but nobody likes to be told what to do, especially when the person telling has everything to show for and emit more CO2 on average.

            There is also a consideration worth taking on board. The general public in China has no fucking power in pressuring the State to do more on the environment. It is a communist dictatorship. Grass root protests do not work like they do here in the West. Influencing the public will only go so far.

          • must touch brain

            Well, at least i’m trying however small the impact. It’s also good exercise and a way to meet all kinds of people.

          • Irvin

            You’re here to eat bob’s cock meat sandwich.

          • must touch brain

            lol… i’d rather die.

          • David

            lol I think you are incorrect. I think she is getting lots fo money from many people including those who love animals. Hating fur is not a requirement of having compassion for animals.

          • must touch brain

            If they seriously care about animals, they wouldn’t support this rich bitch. How can anyone say they have compassion or love for animals and condone the fur industry? That’s just hypocrisy.

          • David

            The fact that you do not understand the distinction says a lot. How is killing an animal for food better than killing it for fur? If you are against one than you should be against both. Go become a vegan and stop the hypocrisy. When you have learned to live your own life well, than you can start to tell others how to live.

          • must touch brain

            I understand the distinction quite well having been both a vegetarian and a vegan throughout my life. I never said it was ok to kill anything. I sense you have something against me personally and i’m sorry if i have offended you. I have not stated that you do not live well so why insinuate that i don’t? I’m alright with my life and you? Also, when did i tell anyone how to live?

          • Irvin

            I disagree, you can only live how you want to live, you may suggest but should never “tell” others how to live, that’s just morally presumptuous.

      • I don’t know the woman, but I liked the comment because it is a positive spin.
        I think it is human nature to be a little envious and to want to earn enough money to do what you want to do with your life and have enough money to do whatever you want to do.
        But to wish someone ill will ONLY because they are successful doesn’t make sense to me.
        Now if they got there selling Ford Pintos knowing they were time bombs, then fine, cut their head off

        • must touch brain

          I don’t mind that she makes a lot of money but with wealth comes many social responsibilities. One of them is not to go flaunting it in such an extreme way to offend others by wearing fur. She obviously has little education, class or compassion. So she’s rich… The bitch should tone it down a bit.

      • Chris

        Don’t think I’ve ever posted on cs before but you and your hate just turns my stomach. Your antipathy towards almost everyone, far outweighs your supposed empathy towards animals. And your self proclaimed moral superiority should preclude you from teaching anyone anything. You walk around teaching people what you “know” to be right, you stereotype, you shame and you enjoy it, and you claim to not be self righteous. No you’re a self deluded, nasty person who has to keep telling themselves they are better than everyone else….very sad.

        • must touch brain

          You can’t possibly know me at all. Come to Qingdao and i’ll show you around.

          • Chris

            You’re right I don’t know you(one small indication that maybe just maybe there is a god after all), but you have made it crystal clear on this post alone, what kind of person you are. And thanks for the kind offer but I’m allergic to sanctimony. Enjoy your Jesus Christ posing, I’m sure it makes you very happy.

          • must touch brain

            And you’ve made it crystal clear what a douche you are.

          • Guang Xiang

            On the contrary…

          • must touch brain

            Do i know you?

          • Chris

            ha you don’t know me either…he has an opinion that’s as valid as yours, or mine. Come to GZ sometime I’ll show you around, or not…..lol

          • Chris

            I actually prefer unrepentant asshole, or jackass of all trades, but “fresh smelling feminine hygiene product” sure I’ll take that one too. All of them are better than Pontificating Twat. Are you actually so narcissistic that you think that because you have some good traits, they will balance out against how much of an asshole you are to anyone who disagrees with you? You’ve pretty much insulted everyone on this post who called you out, and most of them were nice enough not to call you names(unlike me).
            And don ‘t get me started on Laogonma, she’s spread that tasty goodness to billions, and I have no idea how many people she employs but i’m sure it’s more than a couple thousand. All of that goodness is wiped away because she wears something that you consider evil. Your hypocrisy is mind boggling.
            As for you “teaching” the Chinese how to behave…you sound exactly like the early missionaries. Their zeal to teach the heathens to live “properly” oft times destroyed the very people they were determined to save with their superiority.
            And yes horror of horrors I will invoke Godwin’s law. He loved animals, refused to allow them to be experimented on and was a vegetarian for most of his life. But he wasn’t a nice person.
            Lastly…really, following me on disqus? So you can jump on and attack any comment I make. SMH.

          • Guang Xiang

            He followed me too! I was confused why he would follow me after my one small comment. Seems his insecurities are really showing; what better way to ameliorate it by projecting yourself as above all in poor ol’ backwards China.

            Here’s a social tip to ‘must touch brain’: if you’re up against the wall, bow out gracefully.

          • Surfeit

            I’d follow you. I’d follow you anywhere. To my death, I would!

          • Chris

            Ha you know that’ll never happen. God is never wrong.

    • Jahar

      No one says that though.

      • No one says what?

        • Jahar

          That Chinese people are poor and hate the rich. This is the first I’ve heard of it anyway.

          • lacompacida

            So you didn’t read the comments from China,

          • Jahar

            I assumed when they said “they” say this about chinese people, they meant non-chinese people.

    • terroir

      Ma recently said that “being rich is a pain”, and that he dislikes the way people treat just because of his wealth.

      If they’re not busy resenting his wealth, they’re busy trying to “eat the Emperor’s grain”.

      • Your comment reminds me of the stories of LARGE Lottery winners in the States… so many ended up broke and miserable

        • terroir

          Yeah, well, Chinese billionaires have to work hard to become as broke and miserable as those Stateside.

          • If you had “unlimited” funds, would you continue to lead the same life you are living today?
            Have you ever calculated how much money you would need to make such radical changes?

  • Alex Dương

    I wonder how mainlanders would feel if they continuously saw their written language being butchered all over the place and as a matter of course.

    You think that doesn’t happen?

    • If I May

      I don’t think that it doesn’t happen; I know that it doesn’t happen.

      Read again:

      “…*continuously* saw their written language being butchered *all over the place* and *as a matter of course*”.

      I chose to take your bait this time around, but don’t expect further responses from me. Have a good day, Alex.

      • Alex Dương

        I read it the first time, and the examples I gave met your criteria. Sorry that this isn’t the huge difference you thought it was.

      • Guang Xiang

        AKA, sound the retreat.

      • AbC

        he gave clear examples of Chinese characters being ‘butchered all over the place’, and you just ignore it…
        In fact, I’ve personally seen it occur regularly in Australia, and not just Chinese characters.

  • BillBo

    “Well deserved, China’s international brand”

    Hmm, I’ve never heard of this sauce before, has anyone else outside of China?

    Also, what’s the deal about the license plate anyway? I don’t understand the prestige?? And it seems like a bizarre and vaguely insulting way to “award” someone. Obviously not in China but in the US something like that would be ridiculed and lampooned if the government gave it out as a reward

    • Alex Dương

      Any decent-sized Chinese / Asian grocery in the U.S. should have them.

      • must touch brain

        Yeah, just look for the bitch’s face on the label.

        • Alex Dương

          Actually, it’s funny you say that because you do have to be a bit careful here. There is a knockoff brand called 老干娘. It’s uncommon, but I have come across it on occasion. If you just look for the photo, you might pick up the knockoff.

          • must touch brain

            You’re right… there are plenty of other similar jars on supermarket shelves whose advertising management insisted on copying a leading brand by using the same colors, design and human face on them. Just to be sure, i won’t buy any of them.

          • Alex Dương

            See if you find a recipe for chili sauce, then. It is pretty damn good.

      • Zappa Frank

        so international means used by Chinese abroad more or less… than china itself is really international

        • Alex Dương

          You don’t have to be Chinese to enjoy the sauce :)

          • Zappa Frank

            of course, but if this sauce is popular just among Chinese communities abroad I wouldn’t call it an international brand. Or in US is common for non Asian people to cook Chinese food , eventually using that sauce?

          • Surfeit

            Just a quick note. Back home, from my generation, many of the ‘Chinese community’ are British. I duno if they use the sauce or not, but if they do, they are Brits using a Chinese brand.

          • Zappa Frank

            so are they not Chinese communities anymore because they have a uk’s passport? I respect your position that technically is correct, but don’t really agree with it. Sincerely I think that to be part of a nationality (intended as an ethnicity and culture) is more than just to have a passport. Besides seems to me that for Chinese there is always a double standard that is like ‘we are part of this nation (whichever you want) and also Chinese, but we strongly refuse to let foreigners be part of china’

          • Alex Dương

            I have a few things to say. First, yes, it is a double standard, I agree. If people want to be Chinese, the Chinese should encourage them. But let’s be real, Frank, you wouldn’t give up your Italian citizenship to become Chinese, would you?

            Second, IMO, being British (or American) in my case doesn’t mean you can’t be part of the Chinese community / diaspora in your home country. Sure. And while I agree that it takes more than just a passport to be a true member of the home country, I also want to say that assimilation is pretty easy for subsequent generations. Lots of Italian Americans faced discrimination 100 years ago because of prejudices against Southern and Eastern European immigrants; these days, nobody gives a fuck if your last time is DeSimone (which will probably be pronounced in an American and not Italian way).

          • Zappa Frank

            probably not, also because it is a Chinese decision don’t allow double citizenship, but the thing is I don’t have the possibility to choose and even if I could no one in china would ever consider me Chinese. Let’s be real, even a 混血 is not considered as a true Chinese by locals regardless of the citizenship. Than I would like to know why on the other side, for instance, I should consider to be british (or Italian if in Italy) a person that barely speak the language of the country (unless is a second generation) and usually speak Chinese at home, eat usually Chinese food, live according to Chinese values and more important consider himself chinese.. I mean Britain (is just an example, it goes for every country) is a country, with a language, with a culture, with some habits, with a food style (ok, maybe not the strongest point of Britain) and also with people that lived there for thousands years and that consider themselves british… does this have no value at all? or does it have a value only when that country is china? For the example of Italians in US I can tell you that they are americans, no one in Italy consider them Italians and they don’t consider themselves to be Italians.. they don’t speak the language, they don’t eat the same way (Italian American food is considered a blasphemy in Italy) , they don’t have the same habits and so on, and no, we don’t consider them to be ethnically Italians, if an italo-american is popular or win in some sport we don’t pretend is “one of us”, we don’t consider Madonna, lady gaga, Stallone, De Niro, Scorzese, Tarantino, De Blasio and so on to be Italians (and yes, they can’t even pronounce their names)…. besides as we said before in another conversation US is a land of immigrants, where unless for few natives all were part of another culture and carried their cultures with them in US. But Britain (as for other Europeans country) is NOT a land of immigrants, Britain has a history of thousands years, and while is true that it has been invaded by other populations during the history (like every country, including china) it all concurred to form the british culture.
            We may say that new immigrants will form a new british culture, ok, but than it should be reciprocal, also westerns should be able to live in china as citizens and bringing their culture and pretending it becomes part of Chinese culture (this last part is happening anyway, but without western citizens) and we can also claim that a censorship of western movies and tv series is a racial discrimination, and that in china there are a lot of racial laws since they don’t allow foreigner to become Chinese, since in every activity is required a Chinese partner, and so on…
            On last, one example, my big boss is in HK, he gave up his Italian citizenship and now just have the HK citizenship. HK is part of China right? Than, is he Chinese? He is as Chinese as Chinese people in Britain are british, still would anyone call him Chinese?

          • Alex Dương

            Yes, you have a point that you cannot have dual citizenship, and even becoming a sole citizen of China is very difficult. I just want to point out that realistically, you probably would not want to do this, but your point, which I accept, is that even if you wanted to, practically, you can’t.

            I should consider to be british (or Italian if in Italy) a person that barely speak the language of the country (unless is a second generation) and usually speak Chinese at home, eat usually Chinese food, live according to Chinese values and more important consider himself chinese

            But here’s the thing: I think you are mostly describing the first generation. After one generation passes, there is a huge decline in proficiency of the immigrant parents’ native language, if it isn’t English; and it’s actually pretty amazing if the third generation can have even “asymmetric proficiency” (i.e. can understand the language when spoken to, but cannot reply back in the language). I’d say you’ll find the same things apply for food, values, and identity.

            Than, is he Chinese? He is as Chinese as Chinese people in Britain are british, still would anyone call him Chinese?

            To me, sure, he is Chinese; he gave up Italian citizenship to become an HKer. Of course, my opinion is that of an outsider, as I don’t have Chinese citizenship :)

            But remember that what you said about Europe applies to China, too; it certainly isn’t a nation of immigrants the way the U.S. is. It isn’t that it doesn’t have a history of foreigners emigrating and becoming Chinese; the Hui are almost all descendants of male Arab and Persian traders who intermarried with Han Chinese women and stayed in China from over 1,000 years ago. Rather, it’s that in the recent past, the extent of such migration was much less than it was for the U.S.

            Actually, the Hui are quite relevant in this case as they are Chinese despite their non-Chinese origins because their ancestors chose to stay in China. I do think that if you stay in China long enough, you’ll eventually come to be seen as Chinese if that’s what you want, and certainly your kids will be, prejudices or not.

          • Surfeit

            Britain isn’t a country of people with a shared ethnicity. Likewise, there’s a lot of different cultures cohabiting. Being part of a Chinese community doesn’t make someone any less British.

            I know what you mean about the ‘us’ and ‘them’ mentality in China, but I’m not gona let that affect my view on what is right and wrong.

          • Zappa Frank

            Is up to what do you include in the term british. If you include recent immigrants than yes you are right, if you don’t consider them to be british than british is no less an ethnicity than Han.. (and probably more than han)

          • JayJay

            we do

          • Alex Dương

            I never had an opinion on whether it was an international brand. I only said that you should be able to find it at any decent-sized Chinese / Asian grocery in the U.S., and that it’s good.

            Is it “common” for non-Asians to cook Chinese food? No. Does it happen? Sure.

          • terroir

            But you’re likely to be Chinese if you’re going to brag about it.

          • Alex Dương

            Brag about it how? Being good or being “international”?

          • terroir

            “Being good or being “international”?”

            Is there a difference?

          • Alex Dương

            Yes. I can say it’s good without commenting on whether it’s an “international” brand.

          • Surfeit

            You shouldn’t have dignified that one.

          • Alex Dương

            You’re right. I understand that some people think the original remark about it being “international” is wrong, but come on, just enjoy the sauce (or equivalent)…

          • terroir

            You need to work harder on your pride, young man.

          • Alex Dương

            O…K…and you conclude that based on…what?

          • terroir

            “O…K…”

            This is your first problem.

          • Alex Dương

            No answer. What a surprise.

          • terroir

            Do you want an answer?

            Please put as many dots in between each word as necessary.

        • BillBo

          Yeah, that was kind of my point. ‘International brands’ to me are something like Coke Cola or BMW or Sony… Something that you could go to any country in the world (well, almost… north korea is certainly an exception), ask a random handful of people and have at least one of them know what it is/heard of it.

        • JayJay

          not necessarily… a lot of my white friends are mad for Laoganma… Tesco and Waitrose stock them… to think of it, pretty much all major supermarkets in the UK have them… but I have not seen them in ASDA yet.

      • BillBo

        I actually may go out and buy some just to try it, can’t be too bad if it’s revered so much over there. Is it just a general spicy sauce to put on stuff? Or like something you throw into a dish for extra flavor?

        • Alex Dương

          You can use it either way.

      • Jahar

        I don’t think “sold in import shops” generally qualifies as international.

        • Alex Dương

          You should tell BillBo that. I replied only to his question of, “I’ve never heard of this sauce before, has anyone else outside of China?”

          • Jahar

            he was commenting on the comment that it’s China’s international brand. I doubt he considers import shops as international either.

          • Alex Dương

            Yes, but I replied only to that question. I said nothing about whether it is an “international” brand. I said only that you can find them in Chinese / Asian groceries in the U.S.

    • Guang Xiang

      It was when I came to China that I learned about this brand.

      About the license plate, I can only say it’s a cultural thing. Chinese people have a very strong belief about numbers (for example, ‘5168’ means I will be prosperous along the way). Therefore, some popular number combinations are in high demand.

      Non-Americans might find it strange why we have young girls dressed in short skirts and bouncing around cheering on young men during a sporting event.

      • BillBo

        I don’t think that’s quite the same thing, I mean even if they don’t exactly understand why we like it I think they can at least understand the purpose or appeal…. especially the men would I think ;) A8888 being special doesn’t really have any clues as to it’s usefulness/appeal, there’s just no frame of reference to understand it really. That’s what I meant

        Out of curiosity, does 666 have the same basic meaning (that it’s “bad” or unlucky) in China as it does in the west?

        • Guang Xiang

          Yea, my example wasn’t the best!

          As far as I know, 666 invokes 0 reaction in China. However, the number 4 in elevators freak people out. It’s like floor 13.

          • Zappa Frank

            in my elevator we have no number with 4, just 3b, 13b, 23b and so on..

    • terroir

      The deal about the license plate is that “8” is a number with great superstitious quality to it. As valuable as her “ride” (as Joe puts it) is, it is made much more valuable with an “8” license plate, or one with multiple 8’s.

      Layman terms: Chinese are way more obsessed with how things look than what they actually are. Even if this old broad isn’t actually superstitious herself, she now has the prestige of winning such a sought after item.

      Retail terms: Something not selling for $500? Raise it to $888 and watch the sales ring in.

      • BillBo

        Interesting, thanks for the info! Makes sense now. I asked some guy below but I’ll ask you too, does 666 have the same significance in China as it does in the West?

        • terroir

          Unfortunately, no, people don’t rock as hard as they do in the west.

        • David

          No, six is considered lucky, at least in Thailand. I will assume it is the same in China (not a bad assumption) since they awarded her the 6666 before.

          • mr.wiener

            If my house number was “665” would I be the neighbor of the beast?

  • Irvin

    And on that day, not one fuck was given.

    • Jahar

      Fucking awesome, I worship you!

  • Amused

    “…. in other news a gardener from Hubei was volunteered by the local cadre to show their appreciation by cracking open the mummy’s tomb and going down on the old girl”

    Seriously? Like she gives two shits about a vanity plate at her age?

    • Irvin

      You never know, there’s a thin line between vanity and pride and it last a long time if not forever for some people.

  • monster

    I like laoganma very much!
    Just rice and laoganma together still can make a nice meal.

    • Guang Xiang

      laoganma saved me a couple awfully bland meals. Still, I try to limit the amount of time I use it.

    • ClausRasmussen

      I’ve never even heard about it but I got interested and found it on Amazon (!). There are more than one product though, which one is the original?

      Lao Gan Ma Chili Crisp Sauce http://www.amazon.com/Lao-Gan-Chili-Crisp-Sauce/dp/B0051D84JU#

      Lao Gan Ma Chili Oil http://www.amazon.com/Lao-Gan-Chili-7-41-210g/dp/B0051D86MA

      • Free Man

        There are different flavours of Laoganma. Like pork, black beans, etc., so those offers might both be originals (depends on if you trust Amazon).

        • ClausRasmussen

          Oh, then I didn’t express myself clearly…

          I meant: What is the main Laoganma product, the product the Chinese commenters talk about and love the most ?

          I don’t think any of the Amazon products are fake

          • Free Man

            I think you want plain old chili oil.

            I think the best way to compare it is with Coke (sorry, Pepsi lovers). You get Coke, Coke without sugar, Cherry Coke, Vanilla Coke … Same for Laoganma. Chili oil, chili oil with peanuts, chili oil with pork, chili oil with panda testicles …

            I have no clue about what Laoganma or Coke most people would prefer. I like the peanut version.

          • ClausRasmussen

            Thanks!

          • cataphrat1

            I’d raid the nearest Asian super market near your residence. They typically carry these for about 3-5$ a jar.

      • monster

        O, it’s so expensive !
        I do not know why some import food in china is so cheap? As pasta, milk…

  • ALPHA.MALE

    I am an American man, and I have decided to boycott American women. In a nutshell, American women are the most likely to cheat on you, to divorce you, to get fat, to steal half of your money in the divorce courts, don’t know how to cook or clean, don’t want to have children, etc. Therefore, what intelligent man would want to get involved with American women?

    American women are generally immature, selfish, extremely arrogant and self-centered, mentally unstable, irresponsible, and highly unchaste. The behavior of most American women is utterly disgusting, to say the least.

    This blog is my attempt to explain why I feel American women are inferior to foreign women (non-American women), and why American men should boycott American women, and date/marry only foreign (non-American) women.

    BOYCOTT AMERICAN WOMEN!

    http://www.boycottamericanwomen.com

    .,.,.,/ ,.,., , ,, ,. ,./,/,., /,.,/

    • Jahar

      I am an Canadian man, and I have decided to boycott Alpha Male. In a nutshell, Alpha male is the most likely to post stupid shit,rant about nonsense, irritate everyone around them, push their idiotic opinions, never shut up, make posts on unrelated message boards, etc. Therefore, what intelligent man would want to listen to or talk with Alpha Male?

      Alpha Male generally immature, selfish, extremely arrogant and self-centered, mentally unstable, irresponsible, and highly unchaste. The behavior of Alpha Male is utterly disgusting, to say the least.

      This blog is my attempt to explain why I feel Alpha Male is inferior to everyone, and why everyone should boycott Alpha Male, and date/marry anyone else.

      BOYCOTT ALPHA MALE!

      • ALPHA.MALE

        LOL!! You really put a lot of thought into that, didn’t you?

        • terroir

          “LOL” is Beta-speak used by troglodytes who don’t have the superior communication skills as used by Alphas to convey our commonplace feelings of dissatisfaction towards an inferior world.

          You can keep the jacket, but consider yourself shut out of the club house.

          • tomoe723

            I disagree about lol… it’s a convenient acronym. Although it may be old fashioned to some, it still conveys a better expression of boisterous laughter than say rofl, or lmao. Lol.

        • BillBo

          Who wants to bet that “Alpha Male” is a socially stunted outcast who looks the polar opposite of his profile picture and that he is either a virgin or hasn’t had sex in multiple years?

          I seriously hope you get some help, your writing sound exactly like that “virgin killer” idiot in CA. I bet you admire him, don’t you?

      • David

        Wow, what a wonderful day in the lives of American women everywhere. It has been my experience that any man who says he will not date ‘X’ type of women normally has zero ‘X’ type of women after him. In other words they do not think they are good enough (i.e. smart, accomplished, mature) to find and keep a smart, beautiful American woman who has her own opinions and does not put up with their moronic child like behavior (like cheating on them or writing dumb blogs) or has to stay with them because she has no income of her own. Good luck Alpha Male.

    • monster

      ???????

    • mr.wiener

      Spam.

  • Surfeit

    I’m a little bit confused here. Is this ‘thanks for paying your taxes’?

    • ClausRasmussen

      I think it’s “thanks for paying A LOT of taxes”. It is a nice gesture

      • Irvin

        and a “here take this plate, it cost us practically nothing, but take it anyway, and thanks for all the fishes.”

        • ClausRasmussen

          If they had the same system as in the US and other Western countries where you can order vanity plates for a fee, a plate like that would be worth a lot

          But it is not so much about the value as it is about the gesture. It’s like a medal, the metal value is next to nothing but it symbolizes something more

  • terroir

    Chinese food is tasty, and it comes from the concept of “how to make something delicious with absolute zero resources”. However, it also comes with the realization that just about every tasty thing is made through fermentation.

    Soy sauce, vinegar, thousand year-old eggs, stinky tofu… It’s all fermented, and in this day and age, loaded with preservatives and additives.

    Laoganma and her ilk may be beckoning you from the store shelves for some instant taste-satisfaction, but be kind to your liver/prostate/whatever: try to eat more natural Chinese food.

    Someone else want to bring up MSG, go ahead.

    • cataphrat1

      Sure, I’ll bring up MSG.
      MSG is used by almost every major food producer around the world and has not demonstrated to have any ill effects on the human body.
      In fact, it has been demonstrated quite conclusively that those with physical problems with MSG merely experiences them due to the nocebo effect.

      • terroir

        For sure. And to prove your point, MSG is also happens to be the place Matthew Broderick found all those Godzilla eggs.

  • RiverHorser

    yeah, but global brand? seriously? thats the usual chinese uber-over-exaggeration, like a cutesy girl becomes a net goddess … seriously, get a farting life

    • jin

      It’s a global brand when it’s sold all around the globe and with the hundred thousands chinese supermarket around the globe, I guess its global.

      • RiverHorser

        ok. maybe u might read up on business 101 or http://www.financepractitioner.com/dictionary/global-brand
        by your definition any niche product which is exported/imported into some speciality shop is a global brand? ok u absolutely wrong.
        In my hometown is a little shop making a terribly good whiskey which i saw in some shops in small quantities. Does this make it a global brand ? NO, now sit down and eat it, China hasnt yet developed a homegrown household name. I dont say they never will, just now, they havent. Even brands like Huawei and Haier are not household names or that well known. Haier got his name and technology from their German partners and Huawei rebranded cisco kit. China’s time will come, but it involves more than 5mao people and failed soft power attempt … now go on, scrutinize me

        • jin

          You forgot Lenovo.

          • RiverHorser

            no, but lenovo also in not homegrown but bought thinkpad brand and technology and motorola. they themselves havent yet done anything remarkable. they are, like most chinese companies, manufacturing places for western technology not inventors.

          • jin

            Got any proof to back that up? Because Lenovo is founded in 1984,
            in 2012 Lenovo entered the mobile industry, 2013 Lenovo is the most sold cellphone brand and in October 2014 Lenovo finally bought Motorola Mobility from Google.

          • RiverHorser

            of course, u would know too if you had check up first before ranting…

            http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/classics-rock/has-lenovo-ruined-the-thinkpad/

            ur unfounded (or imprecise as it might be possible u meant for market share in China, however, u might better educated yourself prior)

            http://www.statista.com/statistics/271492/global-market-share-held-by-leading-smartphone-vendors/

            and

            https://www.gartner.com/newsroom/id/2335616

            Lenovo is domestically challenged by Huawei and Xiaomi whilst Samsung is the biggest vendor since years…

          • jin

            Ranting? Go search the meaning of that word first.
            They have bought technologies but isn’t that what all big IT companies do? Stealing or buying newer and better ones. Google has bought over 160 companies, while Apple bought 62 companies.
            I said you forgot Lenovo, so I’m asking you now is Lenovo a international brand?
            If it is, we have nothing to talk about.

          • Alex Dương

            You linked to an article from 2008. It’s 2014. So has Lenovo ruined the ThinkPad? Let’s see. Can you still buy them? Yes. Are they still well reviewed? Yes.

  • Alex Dương

    I wasn’t aware that there were many ethnic Chinese tattoo artists in the U.S.

  • must touch brain

    In China, where the state of human and animal rights is horrific, there is much work to be done to help them become more civilized and environmentally responsible.

    • Alex Dương

      I agree there is much to be done in both areas, but as you can see here, many non-Chinese do not share your views.

      • must touch brain

        Well i’m used to that but what kind of person would i be if i didn’t stand by my principles and do what i think is right? Go sit in a corner and drink my life away? I just want to make China and the world better while i’m still around.

        • Alex Dương

          Stand by your principles. I’m just saying that while your views are shared by others in the West, as we can all see, not everyone in the West agrees with them, and that’s totally fine.

        • JayJay

          Unfortunately, human relations with animals in a modern society is just too much intertwined. There is no way of being a true person that doesn’t rely on animals. The biomedical and medical research alone just cannot be done without using animals. The Ebola vaccine will no doubt be trialled on animals first, most likely monkeys. Almost all modern conveniences you enjoy have some degree of animal involvement. Animal products are everywhere. Even the founder of Peta, Ingrid Newkirk, who is diabetic, used insulin made from animals. In this day and age, you cannot be a true animal campaigner without being, technically, a hypocrite. But we can all work towards better animal welfare, but to a certain degree. Human advancement on earth need the sacrifice of animals. But we can try and make it better, gradually, and overtime human can synthesise and produce most things without having to kill animals. But we won’t see it in our lifetime. Mind you, scientists can now grow meat in a lab, how exciting is that!!

          Word of advice, don’t act like 12 monkeys, enviro-terrorist, cause that is just not cool.

          • must touch brain

            I mostly agree with you but the problem is most people don’t really give a shit about animals. If we can educate the masses about the horror animals continuously face, perhaps they will open their eyes and refrain from all the needless killing.

  • Taojessy

    The GODMOTER. Guys she’s the GODMOTER.

  • RiverHorser

    also not a global brand. btw its not just offering your stuff in some markets but to have the local infrastructure for customer care, tech support and so on. Even in China there are enough foreigners which consider Midea as a big thing. Abroad its pretty much unknown